UFO-alien Christian 'smoking gun' - part 2

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Joe Jordan is a man with a mission. Working on UFO reports as part of the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) led him to additional stories of alien abduction. Coming in the door as an agnostic, he worked the cases like any other field investigator and eventually formed CE-4 Research in Florida to concentrate on these cases.

If you have not yet read part one of this story, you can read that piece here.

As his investigation into reported alien abduction continued, Jordan was cautioned by a colleague to be armed - a reference to Biblical study, which he followed up on and became a Christian himself. Following a vision he received during an intensive Biblical training session, he took a second look at witness testimony already reviewed. What startled Jordan - something he had heard, but overlooked in his original investigation - was the fact that some witnesses had revealed how they had ended both a current abduction and any future abductions.

They invoked the name of Jesus Christ.

A follow-up with ufologists from around the country revealed that he was not alone in his findings. Others who had gone before him had discovered similar testimony, but had overlooked it because they either did not know what to do with it, or they were afraid of hurting their research image.

But now word was out. One local newspaper interview with a Gannett publication moved the story out to a wide audience. And the story was posted on web sites - like Flying Saucer Review. Jordan's phone calls suddenly took on a national, rather than local, flavor.

While Jordan's findings may not be universal, he did find enough witnesses where the evidence can be considered repeatable.

"We have repeatability," he said. "And MUFON stresses repeatability." But somehow, he said, it's the "most hated subject in ufology."

Jordan explained that within ufology there is a split. On one side you may have Christians who are very positive about the research, but an opposing group - highly connected with the new age and the metaphysical - that are against these ideas.

Photo: Joe Jordan, left, with David Ruffino in Roswell.

But Jordan has managed to work succesfully within and around UFO organizations - and build his Christian ideas privately as CE-4 Research. In fact, Jordan's management of and participation in this year's first ever Christian UFO-alien symposium at Roswell, NM  - marks the third successive year in a row that he has presented annually at a Roswell conference.

Results have not always been the best.

While Jordan stressed he brings repeatability to the symposium - live witnesses - "Each time you open it up to Q&A, they never question the evidence. They want to attack you on your belief system. I saw this talk after talk."

"I brought the evidence," he said. "What do they bring? Heresay pictures and videos. I brought a stage full of living experience that they can touch, smell, talk to these people. Don't trust me. Trust the evidence."

But Jordan pointed out that the attacks came.

"The attacks came on us as Christians," he said. "How dare we bring religion to this phenomena." He said the witness testinony was never questioned. But not everyone attacked Jordan and his ideas. Two ufology researchers seemed to be interested. "They realized that if even one of these cases is real, this is something that must be looked at. I give them credit for going that far."

Photo: Roswell UFO conference featured witness testimony.

Another researcher, Jordan said, got the chance to see a woman who he had originally worked with, who ended her abductions by invoking the name of Jesus Christ. The researcher kept saying, "You are so different from when I knew you before. He was seeing the change in her - recognizing it - he was so fascinated because he saw something so different."

Fallen Angels

But who are or what exactly are the Fallen Angels that Joe Jordan believes could be the source of what is commonly refered to as aliens?

The answer is not simple, but Jordan explains from a Biblical perspective that God created the Cherubs - the highest order - and then the angels. Satan, he said, was created as a Cherub. The translation of angel - is messenger. In scripture, he said, there are encounters between angels and humans. They describe their purpose as communicators with man, to share a message.

But within the angels, there was at one time a "galactic rebellion," he said. There was a "force that turned against the good side and became the dark side - led by Lucifer - who wanted to be like God. He was jealous, envious. And envious of Man's creation."

Jordan explained further.

"We know that the ability of the angels can manifest from spiritual to physical," he said, "the ability to appear to transform - pass through objects - and you see all of the earmarks as the so-called aliens.

Photo: Joe Jordan, left, with David Ruffino in Roswell.

"Then you tie it into the idea that they have to respond to the name of Jesus Christ. Why do we feel that we're dealing with angels and not demons? Demons don't have the same abilities as angels. Demons are more of a possession. We don't see possession. We see deception. They are jealous of man and their purpose is to deceive."

Of the hundreds of witnesses Jordan has interviewed, nearly 70 have allowed their testimony to be public. He said that helping these people is his main concern, and the research is secondary. But, he said, "if they allow their testimony to be public, that's a plus" as it may help others.

There is currently a secondary project started where this public testimony is being recorded. "It's one thing to read these testimonies," he said, "but another thing to hear the inflection in their story. It's fascinating." Now the stories are coming in from other researchers.

Alien abduction start-up

But how does the alien abduction experience come about? Jordan believes there are three ways.

First, he said, you have the person who has heard about alien abduction, and says, "Man, I'd like to have that experience." But, Jordan warns, "be careful what you ask for. People have openly asked for the experience."

"Second, is where people have unknowingly opened doors that they didn't realize moved into the paranormal and occult - dabbling in areas that were ungodly.

"Third, we have adults that have said, 'I've had this experience since I was a child.' And a child isn't quite knowledgeable enough to know that a door can be opened." In these cases, Jordan said, there may have been a demonic force that was unknowingly brought into the household because the head of the household was not aware they were leading their family in that direction.

Educating the church

The upcoming Christian UFO-Alien symposium this July in Roswell, Jordan said, is a conference to educate the church.

Photo: Joe Jordan, center, with UFO Hunters hosts.

"If you look at the statistics on this," he said, "the polls, the research shows that probably 5 million people have had this type of experience. That's huge. In the church, that's called a mission field - and it's an untouched mission field. They turn a blind eye to it. They're wrongly taught. There's a lack of knowledge on what they're dealing with. We've spent the time. Done the ground work. We want to equip them. You have a lot of hurting people out there."

Changing the human mindset is what the whole experience is about.

"That's the purpose of the experience itself," he said. "The whole UFO experience is about changing the mindset. It will change your views. It changes their perception of reality - takes you away from the one true God. In this great war, the prize, is your soul. If he can take your focus away from the one true God, you're doomed. We're dealing with a star wars that's way past the movie."

Book of Enoch

Jordan recommends looking at the Bible's Book of Enoch. "It describes this whole relationship with these angels before the flood of man. They were seducing man with technology - the science of divination, astrology, the science of weaponry.

But beyond dealing with fallen angels, does Joe Jordan believe there is life elsewhere in the universe?

"Absolutely not," he said. "There's a reason for the stars and the planets - a reason God gave us the entire universe - so that we would be in awe. All of this was created for us. If you comprehend this, that this was made just for me, wouldn't this make you a better person?

"This is what the enemy is trying to take away from us."