What do you think about when you hear the name, "Maurice Clemmons?" son? father? husband? cop killer? victim? black man? American?
How about ....child rapist, pedophile, muslim, bully, idiot, murderer?
I think it's time we stop talking about about people 'politely' like we're back in Old England, fearful the relatives are going to crawl out of the walls and beat us for not being politically correct. Enough is enough. The truth is, the guy was nothing but a thug. Who cares WHAT the Governor's excuse is, the guy was a punk at sixteen and shouldn't have been pardoned, end of discussion. Granted, Huckabee may not be as culpable as the clowns in Washington State who ultimately freed the animal but they all deserve to be incarcerated for their careless actions as well as where they led.
Child rape. terror. murder. A kid's life is only worth $150,000? (the bail in the child rape case) THESE PEOPLE REPRESENT US AND THEY'RE DOING A MISERABLE JOB. Enough with the slacker work, How stupid have we become as a society that we cannot connect dots? my initial gut was right on.
MAURICE CLEMMONS TIED TO "RELIGION OF PEACE"
I'd like to take a moment to let you know that the Nation of Islam has honored Clemmons in the State of Washington for his "actions"
"The Last Crusade" reported on 12/1/09 that The SEATTLE BLACKFOOT SOLDIERS, a Muslim Organization, led by Alfred "Issaquah" Shafford held a rally in honor of their 'hero' for 'doing his part' in bringing down the 'white terror racist police regime' in assassinating four law enforcement officers last week in the coffee shop on Steele street in Parkland, Washington.
"think not that I am come to send peace on earth I came but a sword."
According to Police reports, Clemmons' first brush with the law, was at age 16, for burglery, and an unbelievable crime spree that landed him behind bars with a massive jail sentence.
SO WHAT EXACTLY WAS HE CHARGED WITH?
Initially, his multiple felonies included burgluries, assault on law enforcement, assault, rape and other charges dating back twenty years. No one can figure out exactly WHY he was ever released from the system, Arkansas, Washington or anywhere.
But then...most of us go by the conventional laws of society.
And what does Islam/Qur'an say about Clemmons behavior, anyway?
For starters, Islam is NOT a religion, it's a political ideology based on a trilogy. The Qur'an is what Mohammed reported the angel Gabriel said Allah said but he also said it doesn't contain enough to guide the average muslim, therefore Mohammed's words and deeds are called the Sunna, which are divided into two separate books, the Hadith and Sira. There are several versions of the Hadith but the most common is the Bukhari. The most authoritative version would be known as Ibn Ishaq.
"Mohammed accepted jihadists rape of kafir women" (Bukhari 3,34,431)
Bukhari 5,59,377, During the battle of Uhud, a man asked Mohammed, "Where will I go if I am killed in battle?" Mohammed said, "Paradise" The man then threw away the meal that he was carrying, joined the battle, and fought until he was killed.
Muslim 020,0649 Mohammed:", except debt, all sins of a martyr are forgiven"
Shafford advised brothers to prepare for street penitentiary protest and party unlike any previously known and to collect pictures and prepare effigies of the four slain Lakewood police officers for desecration and destruction.
RULES FOR BLACKFOOT SOLDIERS proclaimed the following rules for fellow Black Muslims:
“1. Never stop for white cops. They are terrorists.
“2. Under terrorism laws, you have to defend yourself.
“3. Never reveal your identity to white cops. They are terrorists.”
Clemmons, the Last Crusade had recently learned from an Arkansas law enforcement official, became a member of the Nation of Islam while serving time in the Cummins Prison.
Based upon the evidence available, it would appear that Clemmons followed his chosen ideology letter and verse.
Comments
Wow your article is astounding on so many levels.
I really don't know how to break it to you that virtually everything you've written about Islam is wrong.
However I will say that Anderson Cooper 360 just reported that Maurice Clemmons considered himself the incarnation of Christ and was awaiting President Obama to tell the world that fact. Sounds like a CHRISTIAN terrorist to me.
Perhaps you'll listen to him. Perhaps not. I'll try to find some filth on Fox news for you.
But nice try.
really?
quotes from the koran? quotes from other Islamist sources? quotes from the investigation? quotes from Blackfoot Soldiers site? sounds to me you're the one with the bad info.
in fact, if you knew anything at all about Islam you'd know that dualism allows one to take on as many personas as one wants to manipulate.
uh...nice try yourself - touche'
I'm going to go out on a 'limb' and say that 'loveforall' practices the 'religion of peace' ha ha ha!!!
Jim - I'm no scholar but there's no Qur'an quotes (as of right now) in this article
The hadeeth quoted is not what the hadeeth says. She copy/pasted that off an Islamic hate website. Find Bukhari on the USC MSA website and read the hadeeth yourself. You'll find that what she has posted is a flat out lie.
Blackfoot soldiers? Oh so now they're more respected in news than CNN? No one ever told me. I must have missed that memo. I guess because I don't watch Fox. My bad.
If you knew anything about Islam, you'd know to learn from an actual Muslim and not hate websites.
The beliefs you have (and the person who wrote this article) are one step away from the KKK - or maybe that's who I'm talking to. After all, they too claim to be conservative Christians protecting America.
You want quotes from the Koran and Muhammad? Here are some:
FROM THE KORAN:
--“ the (only) religion (acceptable) before God is Islam." (3:19)
-- " If anyone desires a religion other than Islam, never will it be accepted of him." (3: 85)
-- “You are the noblest community ever raised up for mankind.” (3:110)
-- The unbelievers among the people of the book and the pagans shall burn forever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of all creatures. (98.6).
-- Surely the vilest of animals in Allah’s sight are those who disbelieve. (8.55)
--The unbelievers are your inveterate enemy. (4:101)
-- Mohammed is God's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another. (48:29).
-- It is unlawful for a believer to kill another believer, accidents excepted. (4:92)
-- Believers, take neither the Jews nor the Christians for your friends. (5:51)
-- Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme. (8:40)
More from the Koran:
-- Fight against them until idolatry is no more and God's religion reigns supreme. (2:193)
-- The true believers fight for the cause of God, but the infidels fight for the devil. (4:76)
-- We will put terror into the hearts of the unbelievers. (3:151)
-- I shall cast terror into the hearts of the infidels. Strike off their heads, strike off the very tips of their fingers. (8:12)
Here is Muhammad:
-- Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' "
-- Mohammed said, "I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, "None has the right to be worshipped but Allah, and whoever says, " None has the right to be worshipped but Allah , his life and property will be saved by me." (otherwise it will not).
-- Mohammed said, "Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him."
-- Mohammed said, " No Muslim should be killed for killing a Kafir" (infidel).
-- Muhammad said: "Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war..."
Nice religion of peace, huh? Feel the love!
Abdul - Great, I can pick and choose 4 words here, 8 words there, out of the Bible and come to the exact same conclusions - what does that prove? Have you ever actually read Deut concerning laws of war?
Really, provide the whole verse first and then we'll talk.
And I'm still trying to figure out how blackfootsoldiers are better news than CNN.
Alright well, I got better things to do than hate - something you guys are better than me at anyway.
I wish you all were more like Jesus (peace be upon him). You all talk a big game but not one of you can walk it. A shame.
Continue with your false attacks. I'm not going to respond. I'll be like Jesus and turn the other cheek. If you guys won't honor his noble soul...I as a Muslim certainly will. Peace.
Wow, Annie! This article is really nuts, crazy, looney-tunes! You are a true right-wing whack job...you might even be able to interview with Fox News with this article. So let's blame all of this on Islam? I didn't know there was a crazy enough right-winger out there to compose this, and then Annie showed up! Why don't you place the blame where it belongs - on the American society as a whole. As we spend money and human resources on needless wars, bank bailouts, and corporate and millionaire/billionaire welfare, we neglect the social services that, if properly manned and funded, may have put this powder keg in an institution where he belonged. Instead he was running around the streets, with guns of course. Our society's neglect of getting informed and involved politically results in politics gone astray from our true needs as a society. This coupled with our entertainment culture and craving for violence and guns, leads to stuff like this. And, by the way, more to come.
Annie, how about we just call you for what you are? Racist, ignorant, prejudiced and a great example of why I am becoming increasingly embarrassed to call myself an American. Were you writing about how horrible Catholics were after Timothy McVeigh blew up a day care center? I doubt it. You're a dumbass.
Good lord you are an ignorant woman.
You really need to be on Fox News. Their ignorant trash is perfect for the likes of you. Have you applied? Please, please do. Spread your stupidity far and wide so that there is no doubt.
Dont you check facts, what is wrong with the media. Huck commuted a 16 yr olds sentence from 108 yrs to 47 yrs hardly letting him off easy... it was for an unarmed robbery and a burglary done by a 16 yr old kid....... get the facts straight. do your research. Some times the blame lys with the man who done the crime. No one elses fault.. but if you must place blame put it on the judges who let him have a bond just recently not on some governer for doing his job 10 yrs ago.
No, she is not ignorant. Usually it is those who are truly ignorant of the basic tenets of Islam who charge its critics with ignorance. Islam is a violent and dangerous political ideology overlayed with a thin veneer of religiosity. It is not racist, or ignorant, or fascist to know and state what this mock religion truly stands for, except to those who have drowned their brains in the poison of knee-jerk political correctness. If the Nazis had been half as smart as Mohammed, Islam's defenders would be running themselves ragged defending Hitler and Mein Kampf as harbingers of peace and enlightenment.
Annie, you may have use for my motto:
Tell the truth, and run like hell.
Annie, you know that this is HOG WASH and rediculous and you are either absurdly gullible or intentionally deceptive! I knew some ignorant folks would try to play the muslim bogeyman card!
And you claim that the "National Black Footsoldiers" has some relationship to the Nation of Islam. Please, this looks more like your good friend.. that paid FBI COINTELPRO instigator HAL TURNER who was recently exposed.
Read about it and see the parallel at: tinyurl.com/lsansp
I am relieved he is dead. I hope that the people who aided him meet the same fate. Look I don't want to think it's some conspiracy. He was a horrible piece of trash who executed 4 cops just eating breakfast. Shame on the animals who tried to help him. Also I don't think what she wrote was racist, she only pointed out some wacky group on the internet's looney ideas. Everyone is so quick to say I don't like what you said so your raceist
Bec, not only is what Annie wrote racist and religiously bigotted, she 1) falsely and deceptively attempted to link the murderer to the religion of Islam as well as to Black people, 2) she falsely linked him to some newly discovered "movement" that is nothing more than a blog and 3) she used fraudulent material to justify her biggotry.
Love4All says:
>>>I'm no scholar but there's no Qur'an quotes (as of right now) in this article .. The hadeeth quoted is not what the hadeeth says. She copy/pasted that off an Islamic hate website. Find Bukhari on the USC MSA website and read the hadeeth yourself. You'll find that what she has posted is a flat out lie.<<<
Love4All, this is so True! I don't know about you but what I've noticed is that these right-wing extremist Annie-type bloggers no longer just post propoganda and out of context stuff but now it looks like they've said 'frack' any sense of ethical debate and just go right out and make up fraudulent lies and respond their lies as though it were true! It's really quite pathetic!
There are always apologists for every sort of evil. Especially tragic are those who bleat out the refrain: "It was taken out of context". Right. Okay. And yet when Jihadist someday starts sawing off their heads, they'll cry: "Why didn't somebody warn us?"
Is there any links to the Blackfoot soldiers?
and by links I mean a link to their website
Wow, did you really want to make your point that all Muslims are evil or what? Facts be damned, you're going to beat this horse for all it is worth.
"Clemmons, the Last Crusade had recently learned from an Arkansas law enforcement official, became a member of the Nation of Islam while serving time in the Cummins Prison."
Really? Can we have even an iota of proof here? Confirmation from anything other than an anonymous source? Or did you just make this up?
How about talking about a "good Christian" named Mike Huckabee who actually COMMUTED this man's 108 year prison sentence after he had served 11 years?
The "Seattle Black Foot Soldiers" don't seem to have actually had any such "rally" as your Last Crusade bigots seem to think. Btw, quoting from that page really does make it clear what a racist you are. Are you the poster who calls themselves "James Earl Ray" and advocates killing off all black people?
The "Seattle Black Foot Soldiers" don't seem to have actually had any such "rally" as your Last Crusade bigots seem to think. Btw, quoting from that page really does make it clear what a racist you are. Are you the poster who calls themselves "James Earl Ray" and advocates killing off all black people?
what page, anyone care to post a link? Does it even exist? And no all black people should not be shot. But threats(white or black, yeah white people do that animalistic stuff too) to police officers, you know the ones who keep us safe, hey if you gotta shoot them, then shoot them. I don't ever have to worry about getting shot by a cop, I have done nothing to bring that on. I don't have that same sense of security when I drive through camden or newark.
Oh, and Annie, your quote "think not that I am come to send peace on earth I came but a sword." is actually from the Christian New Testament, specifically Matthew 10:34, supposedly quoting this from Jesus. I guess even he was a bit of a violent murdering type eh?
It is cruel and unusual punishment to give someone a 108 sentence for robbery. If the guy had mental symptoms and was violent in jail, that calls for putting him in a special mental asylum for violent people.
The hate website that Annie "quotes" is located at
thelastcrusade.org/2009/12/01/black-muslims-conduct-celebration-in-honor-of-washington-state-cop-killer/
Warning, this website is absolutely sickening. Annie, your ability to quote made up bullshit from a known hate website and call it valid reflects your own internal hate. Get over your white privilege ideas and quit assuming that all black people and muslims hate you. Although you've certainly given them adequate reason to at this point.
Good God, what vile drivel. A complete waste of bytes.
Annie's bio reads:
>>>Annie Hamilton, a constitutional conservative.. Director for Southern California America C2C.. featured contributor to American Daily Review, The House Conservatives Fund, and Town Hall..<<<
If this article is indicative of the cream of the crop of what's coming out of the next generation of "Constitutional Conservatives" they are in big trouble! LOL!
Annie, go to my web site: Crusader's Armory (there is a link in the sidebar of the blogspot of the same name) where you will find Islamic texts you can download from the Expanded Library, links to on line sources and a URLGenerator for linking to Islamic texts in the USC-MSA and other databases.
Is that the groups website or just someone else reporting about it?
As usual, this far right columnist bases her entire opinion on pure fiction. The Seattle Times reported the exact opposite is actually true:
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Clemmons traveled to meet New York minister, citing God's instructions
At his first encounter with accused cop killer Maurice Clemmons, a New York City cleric says he immediately discerned a mental problem. Clemmons, 37, had shown up for a prayer service at Bishop E. Bernard Jordan's Zoe Ministries church on Manhattan's Riverside Drive on June 12.
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An extremist Muslim who thinks he's Jesus. Makes a lot of sense!
Clemmons drove for three days to attend a Christian symposium in NY last June. Yet some freak Jailhouse Ministries Crusader makes up a story about a supposed Islamic connection.
And Annie Hamilton falls for it hook, line and sinker. And the clowns running this website publish it without any editing or fact checking?
I do think this guy was nuts, having said that. I don't think all the people who helped him have the same defence. I saw one of his little girl friends smiling through the interview, saying what a nice guy he was, implying that she would help him the same way the others did. Saying she had no feeling about the 4 people he wiped off the planet. The 4 families he left without fathers or mothers. They all don't like that cops arrest them for doing illegal things so they jumped at the chance to help him. disgracefull.
first of all, everything quoted is based on facts already published and verified, nothing is 'assumed' or based on opinion. yes, you're absolutely accurate, his 'version' of Islam is NOT representative of what muslims normally do and as the article states, he was recruited to Islam in prison, which is how many Americans come to Islam that are not born into it.
Rather than write hate messages and accusations, perhaps you might educate yourselves on the subject first? that IS the point of writing the article in the first place. and if you don't like reading about what Islamists are up to....don't read my articles. My sources are impeccable. thank you for reading. (by the way, I am not a race-baiter, my personal family looks and behaves like the United Nations - but we're not cop killers, child rapists, bomb throwers or the rest - law abiding citizens come in all skin colors and I therefore make NO apologies for writing truthful articles. cheers!
I'm not sure if the guy is a muslim or not, but he is scum. The premise that muslims are violent and want to kill us is however true. If you keep drinking the P.C. Kool-Aid these "peaceful" people will continue to demand more and more. They will demand that they only answer to muslim law...this has happened in England and has been attempted here in the U.S. Stand up and understand the "religion" and the dangers it brings with it.
Annie's completely correct and all of you naysayers accusing her of being false, are completely incorrect. The verses can be found online at the Center for Muslim Jewish Engagement. Sometimes the translations are slightly different. For the first one about Mohammad accepting the Jihadists captives, that's translated here as: Volume 3, Book 34, Number 431: Narrated Anas: Amongst the captives was Safiya. First she was given to Dihya Al-Kalbi and then to the Prophet.
But they are clearly referring to being given "sexually". The next verse states: Volume 3, Book 34, Number 432: Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: that while he was sitting with Allah's Apostle he said, "O Allah's Apostle! We get female captives as our share of booty, and we are interested in their prices, what is your opinion about coitus interrupt us?" The Prophet said, "Do you really do that? It is better for you not to do it. No soul that which Allah has destined to exist, but will surely come into existence.
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Top exegetists and scholars agree that rape of captive women is perfectly fine, since this is considered booty. They are slaves and rape is acceptable. The second bukhari verse annie quoted is perfectly correct.
The Muslim hadith is: Sahih Muslim Hadith 4649 Narrated byAmr ibn al-'As The Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) said: All the sins of a Shahid (martyr) are forgiven except debt.
To those of you accusing Annie of lying, you are completely ignorant. Annie understands the threat of Islam-- she actually studies it. You do not. you are basing your arguments on emotion; Annie bases hers on Koran and Hadith. You get your info of Islam from your friend Ahmed up the street. She gets her information on Islam from Mohammad the prophet of Islam. So, if she's using correct sources and you're not, why should anyone believe you?
You believe your position of ignorance carries equal weight to those of us who have studied the subject. It does not.
"first of all, everything quoted is based on facts already published and verified, nothing is 'assumed' or based on opinion."
Published and verified by whom? Published on a right-wing hate blog, yes, but verified? Not by anyone.
"My sources are impeccable. "
Right, and that's why the Seattle papers said otherwise.
So please, take your foul and disgusting opinions offline. Your lies aren't welcome.
Ruggerducky: Instead of just parroting the politically correct nonsense, why not read the Quran and learn what this toxic "religion is really all about?
What is foul and disgusting is not Ms.Hamilton's essay, but people like you who live in denial, and disseminate lies and evasions concerning the very real danger that Islam represents to the West.
Katie, I can point out at least 40 quotes from the Old Testament AND the New Testament (Comprising the "Christian Bible") that are just as blood-thirsty and advocating rape and abuse. That isn't the point. Islam is no more a threat to this nation than Christianity is.
The point is that Annie intentionally posted something from a website without verifying whether or not it was true. Then she tried to lie and claim otherwise. Why should anyone believe her about anything?
Instead of just parroting your right-wing hate, how about you actually look up a real fact?
Ummmm, excuse me, I did not write ANYTHING that I didn't verify myself, 'Ruggerducky' - obviously you're not reading through the comments, nor did you bother to read the article with a clear head. It's based upon information contained within the trilogy itself - this is NOT opinion, not mine, not anyone's.
Ma'am, might I suggest that If you have a problem with what is in the article.....you have a problem with ISLAM. Not with me. You see, I HAVE READ THE QUR'AN. OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE NOT.
Get over yourself and your politically correct, pious ideas. they are ridiculous and dangerous. thank you for reading.
BIBLE:
# Kill who is not a virgin on one's wedding night (Deuteronomy 22:20-21);
# Kill who marry a foreigner (Numbers 25:6-9);
# Encourages killing of enemies - Numbers 33:50-52, Deuteronomy 2:33-36, 3:3-6 and 7:2) Luke 19:26-27);
# Encourages abandoning the sick (Numbers 5:1-4);
# Supports punishment for the sins of your ancestors (Numbers 14:18);
# Encourages war (Matthew 10:34);
# Promotes blood feuds (Numbers 35:19-21);
# Is anti-Semitic (1 Thessalonians 2:14-16, Micah3:1-12, Hosea 8:1-14, Matthew 23:13-39, Acts 2:23, 3:13-15);
# Promotes slavery (Ephesians 6:5, Deuteronomy 20:10);
# Sanction being sold into slavery as a punishment for theft (Exodus 22:1-3);
# Admits that their own texts have been falsified (Jeremiah 8:8);
# Demands unquestioning obedience to political authority (Romans 13:1);
# Advocates suicide (Samuel 31:4-5);
# Encourages the slaughter prisoners of war (Deuteronomy 7:1-2);
# Encourages killing of strangers (Numbers 1:51, 3:10, 3:38, 18:7);
# Encourages beheading of enemies (1 Chronicles 10:9; 2 Kings 6:31, 2 Samuel 4:7 and 20:21; 2 Kings 10:6);
# Allows the murder of civilians in wartime (1 Samuel 15:3 and 15:18, Ezekiel 9:4-7, Hosea 13:16, Numbers 31, Isaiah 13:9 and 15-18);
# Injustice to a rape victim (Deuteronomy 22:28-29)
# Kill who has sex outside of marriage (Leviticus 20:10-13,1 Corinthians 5:5);
# Promotes incest (Genesis 19:30-36, Genesis 35:22, Genesis 38:15-30, 2 Samuel 13:5-14, 2 Samuel 16:21-23)
# Pornography (Ezekiel 16:23-34, Ezekiel 23:1-35, Proverbs 7:7-22, Song of Songs 1:12-13, Song of Songs 3:1-4, Song of Songs 4:1-7, Judges 16:1)
# Kill anyone working on the Sabbath (Exodus 31:15);
# Kill who violates the Sabbath (Numbers 15:35, 15:36);
# Kill one who curses one's parents (Leviticus 20:9):
# Stone to death the rebel against parents (Deuteronomy 21:18-21);
# Kill a witch, medium, or wizard (Exodus 22:18; Leviticus 20:27);
# Kill who engages in homosexual acts (Leviticus 20:13);
BIBLE:
# promotes honor killings (Deuteronomy 22:15-21 [stone to death], Leviticus 21:9, Judges 11:36-40, Genesis 34:1-31);
# Promotes suicide attack (Judges 16:27-30)
# Stone to death who worships other gods (Deuteronomy 17:2-5);
# Kill who becomes an apostate or a heretic who dissents (Deuteronomy 13:8-9, 1 Timothy 1:20)
# Kill who entice a friend or family member to worship other gods (Deuteronomy 13:6-10);
# Requires veiling for all women (1 Corinthians 11:5);
# Treats women unjustly (1 Corinthians 11:5 and 14:34, 1 Timothy 2:11, Ecclesiasticus 25:18-19 & 33, Ecclesiastes 7:26, Genesis 3:16 & 19:8 & 21:10, Leviticus 27:6, Numbers 27:8-11 & 30, Deuteronomy 21:10-13 & 25:5-10 & 22:13-21, Judges 19:16-30);
# Believes in gender inequality (1 Timothy 2:11, 1 Corinthians14:34);
# Allows polygamy ( Exodus 21:10; 2 Samuel 5:13; 1 Chronicles 3:19 and 14:3; 1 Kings 11:3; 2 Chronicles 11:21; Deuteronomy 21:15; Genesis 4:19 & 16:2);
BIBLE:
Jesus said
"Do not think that I have come to send peace on earth. I did not come to
send peace, but a sword. I am sent to set a man against his father, a
daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her
mother-in-law" (Matthew 10:34-35)
That is a favorite fallback of the blind left- "the Christians are just as bad!" Does that mean we should ignore the violent threat of Islam? No, of course not. But since Islam was being discussed, we discuss Islam. Besides, since 9/11, of the 15000 terror acts in the world, about 99.9% have been committed by Islam. Islam has been assaulting the West and the East since its inception. The Nazi's were stupid- if they had been half as smart as Mohammad, they would have declared their ideology a religion and the politically correct would now be "celebrating" Nazism.
Sure, quote all the violent Bible verses that you wish, so what? It doesn't make Islam any less dangerous or undesirable. And Christians don't seem to be putting these verses into action every day of every year for the past 1500 years.
I have actually read the Quran and the Hadiths, have any of you left-wing, knee jerk apologists? No?
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