President Obama is using the same aggressive rhetoric we saw prior to invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, with media repeating the quickly-verifiable lie that Iran's President threatened to "wipe Israel off the map." Previously, Senator Lieberman, Secretary of State Clinton, and former UN Ambassador John Bolton resumed rhetoric of a United States attack upon Iran. There are two general justifications they speak of to justify war: Iran's "nuclear program" and their threat to Israel.
Would it help to understand the facts to imagine if the US was in Iran’s position? Let’s find out with the following scenario of the current US role being played by China, and Iran being played by the US. It’s all based on the conservative history (non-contested as far as I know) of what the US has done to Iran and documented
here. This is written from an American perspective.
In 1953, the CIA (China Intelligence Agency) overthrew the Eisenhower administration, installing a vicious dictator, Mr. Monarchy, who would lord over us until we deposed him in 1979. Ike had been elected in our democracy, and had the brass to demand renegotiation of oil contracts to increase the American share of the profit above 15%. The Chinese had helped develop our Texas oil fields from their occupation during the last world war. Ike’s threat of nationalizing our oil fields drove China over the edge. Their CIA staged Operation Ajax, put Ike in prison until 1956, and then kept him under house arrest until his death.
The puppet-Chinese Monarch was welcome in Beijing, with the Chinese people not perceiving the irony and hypocrisy of their Cold War fighting for “freedom and democracy” while supporting a dictator who destroyed democracy in our country. CIA helped train Monarchy’s own secret service, who imprisoned and executed hundreds of thousands of Americans who defied Monarchy in any way. When Monarchy developed cancer and fled the US in 1979, he received medical treatment in China. The new US government demanded extradition to the US for mass murder against his own citizens. China refused.
In protest, Americans stormed the Chinese embassy in Washington DC, taking 53 hostages. China demanded their immediate release; but with refusal to extradite Monarchy to stand trial, the US refused. The US de facto leader, minister Billy Bible (who Monarchy exiled in 1964) said China had no right to complain, as they held our entire nation hostage since 1953. Americans rallied behind Bible, and the motto he developed while in exile: “We’ll be back. This regime will be terminated.”
China imposed economic sanctions on the US and then supported their puppet-dictator in Mexico, Senor Saddam, to invade the US in 1980. Behind-the-scenes negotiations led to the hostages’ release in January, 1981, but China escalated their support of Mexico in their invasion. They didn’t lift a finger for international law to stop Mexico’s War of Aggression against us. Over a million Americans were killed in the war until 1988.
Along with Chinese attacks destroying US oil platforms and installations in the Gulf of Mexico in 1988, China also shot down and American commercial airliner 655, flying in American airspace, killing all 293 on board. China’s vice-president said he would never apologize for China, no matter what the facts were. The invasion and war ended at the end of 1988.
In 1990, China invaded Mexico but kept their dictator in power. China imposed harsh sanctions on Mexico, resulting in about a million civilian deaths, mostly children. Their secretary of state said the deaths of children were “regrettable but worth the cost.” They invaded again in 2003 for “regime change” after Mexico began accepting other currencies than China’s for oil export. This followed China’s 2002 invasion of Canada and occupation.
Americans realized we were surrounded by China and feared the worst, as history had demonstrated. We were right.
Beginning in 2003, China escalated rhetoric that the US, a non-nuclear power, was developing nuclear weapons in secret locations and that we were a government run by religious zealots (perhaps true, yes). The US began selling Texas oil exports for currency other than China’s in fear of devaluation of the Yuan from their government’s extensive borrowing and increased debt. In 2005 the US president delivers a speech in defense of Palestinian rights. He used the exact same phrase as our revolutionary hero, Billy Bible: “Palestine will be back. The Israeli regime will be terminated.”
China snapped. Their political leaders and press claimed that the US is threatening to wipe Israel off the face of the earth. Israel demanded the US be tried for crimes against humanity, said we were threatening another Holocaust (despite our large Jewish population), and requested our expulsion from the UN. China and Israel began to participate in war games. They openly discuss war with the US, including the use of nuclear weapons. This is all in blatant violation of the UN Charter to keep peaceful relations.
A second line of China-Israeli propaganda is over US pursuit of nuclear energy. China was in contract with the US and fully supported US nuclear energy when their puppet Monarchy was in charge, but after the 1979 revolution they reneged on all contracts, never refunding billions we paid for equipment. Both China and Israel state a military strike against the US is “on the table.”
The US tries to distinguish our legal nuclear energy development that allows full inspections from IAEA from illegal nuclear weapons.
It does no good.
China and their controlled media relentlessly use the ambiguous phrasing of the US “nuclear program,” and broadcast fear of what might happen if we develop a nuclear weapon. China ignores and won’t discuss the terms of the Non-Proliferation Treaty where the US is allowed to develop nuclear energy, choosing to conflate nuclear energy and nuclear weapons in the minds of their citizens. Chinese news programs show the world a new 30,000 pound bomb to penetrate US underground targets.
While “officially” China says Christianity is a respectable religion, their media stoke fears that Christian extremists are in charge of the US. Many Chinese view Christians with fear, thinking we want to convert the world because we think any other religion leads to hell. They point to the Crusades, hundreds of year of religious wars, and the Spanish Inquisition as evidence that Christianity is a religion that has been and can again be extremely violent. They say Americans are brutal and dishonest as a culture; citing genocide against American Natives and constant treaty violation to steal their land, Americans lying their way into a war to steal half of Mexico, and then being so unstable we had a civil war.
They publish government papers citing US human rights abuses; never mentioning their own (jumping back to reality,
consider this).
Many of their media pundits explain that Chinese troops cannot leave Mexico and Canada because Christian extremists will take over and it’ll be a safe-haven for Christian terrorists committed to get to China and kill their civilians in terrorist attacks.
One of China’s top reporters with a history of documenting Chinese war crimes and broke the torture scandal against Mexican detainees reports China is actively engaged with their CIA to overthrow our government again.
China also insists their “Surge” in Mexico has decreased Mexican terrorism, but they accuse Americans and the US government of covertly aiding Mexican and Palesinian “terrorists.” They spin their invasion that Mexico and the world is better off, and China will increase troop presence in Canada during 2009 to defeat the “Maple Leaf” terrorist cells, who are a threat to Chinese national security. They increasingly use drone attacks against Canada and across the sea-border into northern Scotland, an apparently ungovernable part of the UK, a nuclear power.
The Chinese public is increasing aware of the facts, using the Internet and alternative media for communication. The Chinese government threatens to close the Internet for “national security” needs, should they arise.
As of November, 2009, the US has not yet been attacked by China and/or Israel, but the drums of war continue to beat against us, accompanied by China’s slick “mainstream media.” We hope and pray that the Chinese public and the world will understand that Americans don’t want war with anyone. We want cooperation, dignity, justice under law, and freedom.
Because all of China's political leaders repeat the lie that Billy Bible's phrase means a threat to Israel, that we want to somehow commit suicide by attacking a nation without cause that has over 400 nuclear weapons and the world's most sophisticated hardware to deliver them, and this lie is SO EASILY refuted, we know that China's president and henchmen do not want peace under the law with us. This is so evil, and should be apparent after the reasons China gave to invade Mexico and Canada were exposed by their own government documentation as known lies as they were being told.
And China wonders why so many of us turn to religion for solace.
After a million civilian deaths from China’s invasion of Mexico we know our fate will be similar if they attack us. May God help us all.
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Comments
Wow
You only show one side of the coin and are obviously bias.
pat: I reject your one sentence denial. Explain your claim of "one side" and "bias." Without explanation, your claim has zero credibility.
Iran has been actively trying to murder Israeli civilians for years, by the means of its proxies hezzbolla and hamas.(both can be proven to be directly funded/armed by iran.
Now if an atomic bomb can kill more than rockets, why would Iran not use it.
If you tell me they are a logical people, than why do they feel moral and correct by publicly hanging homosexuals, if they did not truly believe in the will of "allah" than no sane person could do that.
And if you still believe it is for energy purposes, than why is Iran adamant on refusing the offers.
In conclusion I am baffled by you Ignorance. Get a new day job.
Read about the USS Liberty Incident and see if you still believe Israel has our best interest at heart. The US has used atomic bombs and nuclear weapons in Iraq and limited nuclear weapons in Pakistan. It won't be on the CIA controlled news. You can see the nuclear bombs planned to drop on Iran in the near future. Just do a little research. Read about Operations Northwoods and Mongoose. Iranian Flight 655. You can continue the news media or think for yourself.
should you be allowed out in society with actual american's ?
I know one thing... I sure as heck would hope that the U.S. would be secretly working on nuclear weapons in that situation.
Fool, what are you really saying? You want readers to discount the history I document in consideration of previous and current US lies with NPT and wiping Israel off the map. You want readers to not remember the history of US destruction of Irans democracy. You are acting as agents to not address US Wars of Aggression, but to perpetuate them.
Choose carefully if this is the future you want for you and your posterity.
Fool:
You shift the subject, as disinfo agents are trained. You reference what the Goldstone Report cites as War Crimes by Israel onto the Palestinians and the central issue of Palestinian rights. You make an illegal leap of logic to say that because Iran supports Palestinian political and civil rights (youll have to prove proxies, as your sources are likely the same liars who started Wars of Aggression in Iraq, Afghanistan and lie to start another in Iran that is documented in my links), they would nuke Israel. This would be suicide for them.
If you want to prevent Irans development of nuclear weapons, accept their rights for nuclear energy. This includes full monitoring to make sure fissionable refinement stays at energy grade only and has a perfect track record of success. As Ive documented, Iran is in full compliance of NPT, the US is not and Israel has about 400 nukes and refuses NPT. More for you, Fool:
mmm mmm:
I follow the rule of law, the US Constitution and the principle of inalienable rights. What do you follow?
hacksoncode:
Yes, of course Americans would resist and prepare for another invasion. When Iranians do so, we call their actions "aggressive."
...if I read these comments I feel Americans are mentally ill and insane.
Which one of the countries out of US, Iran, and China have actually launched a nuclear bomb on a city full of innocent civilians?
You are so right. I like most of America thought that the reason Harry S.Truman ordered the dropping of the two atomic bombs.One on Hiroshima and one on Nagasaki were to save American lives to prevent a invasion of the Japanese homeland. The truth is the Japanese Air Force was almost completely destroyed as well as the navy. The fire bombing and B-52 bombing raids day and night which met with almost no opposition had killed one million people. Mostly men, women and children. The people were on sub-starvation diets. The truth is more sinister. Japan had been trying to surrender for months. Truman refused. Truman defended his action in two ways. First, he stated to his aide that if he didn't order the dropping of the two bombs how would he be able to justify the cost that went in to the planning and the making of the bombs? Truman realized that the USSR had enter the war and was moving toward Japan. He stated to his aide this was a great opportunity to show the USSR how military powerful the US was and give them a warning. This is all to be found on the internet. How did the US become so powerful beside all of the spending on the military? After Japan was in ruins. The USSR had been devastated by the war in their country. England had been bombed by the Germans. The US homeland had been spared. Therefore a huge advantage on the other super powers.
Isn't it obvious that the Palestinians are the source of all these problems?
If they had just rolled over and accepted the facts that the Jews can take whatever they want and that the Jews are not required to follow rules that apply to everyone else, then none of this would have happened.
Clearly, the only solution is to saturate the West Bank and the Gaza Strip with several dozen 100 megaton nuclear weapons until every inch of Palestinian territory is glowing a bright green.
God Bless you man, right on target. I wish we had few like you in our Gutless, worthless media to spread the truth. We are getting bankrupt due to Iraq/Afghanistan wars, and will be committing suicide if we attack Iran . . . .
Wow. No mention of neocons, AIPAC, other pro-Israeli guys in here?
No mention that in Iran, AIPAC, the Bronfmans, and senator Damato lobbied and passed harsh sanction on trade with Iran in 1996 when US oil companies was Irans biggest oil trading partner by far. When the neocons were writing in the mid nineties about hitting Iran and removing Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq an important Israeli strategic objective in its own right, Cheney was talking about how an invasion would be a quagmire.
Where's the mention that, US oil companies were even lobbying to trade with Iraq, and Saddam wanted to oblige... in sharp contrast to pro-Israeli interests? Right now China has the long term oil contracts in Iraq? The US got booted from even the short term contracts.
This analogy is fun, but it is missing considerable amounts of information - namely from pro-Israeli pressure within the US, and focuses on an oil industry who fought for dropping sanctions, not invasion.
Matisoff:
Thank you for the further detail. Readers wanting to go deeper should explore those topics. I'm trying to pull the curtain back to reveal the image portrayed is an illusion. If I can do that and we have a critical mass who realize almost everything they thought was true was a manufactured image to scare and control us, we'll have a chance to end our criminal "leadership" and get to constructive work. I can only write so much without losing the people who most need to learn.
I agree completely that the value is in the big picture, not the details. As people come to realize that the US and Isreil are controlled by the same creatures(not jews), it makes meaningful discussion easier.
@Fool: Hey - how much does it pay being on one of those Israeli internet truth-suppression squads?
Now your calling hamas a legitimate political organization? A group that takes PRIDE in acts like these - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sbarro_restaurant_suicide_bombing
You want proof that iran is directly arming terrorists to murder Israelis? try opening your eyes and reading the news you dont want to.
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/04/AR2009110404296.h t m l
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8355568.stm
You tell me Iran is bound by the laws of sanity and would not commit suicide. How many sane people do you know can murder someone for being a homosexual and feel they are doing the will of allah.
And to the rest of you pathetic oh noes the jews are paying sane and logical people to express their opinion, How about applying basic logic to the basis of your beliefs before you open your mouth.
Fool:
You want me to address your subject rather than you address the topic of this article, what readers have come here to examine?
No.
Not until you address the three principle facts of the article's analogy of the Iran issue:
1. Iran is in compliance with NPT, the US is not, all US intelligence agencies confirm there is no known threat of nuclear weapons from Iran, and IAEA has found zero evidence of nuclear weapon development.
2. Iran never threatened to wipe Israel off the map. That is a contrivance.
3. The US has twice, from 1953-1979 and 1980-1988 directly worked to violently overthrow Irans government.
Start there, fool.
Israel, Judah, Britain and America www.peterjamesx.com
So I give you the proof you ask for, and you backpedal to avoid accepting reality.
1. Iran is in compliance with NPT, the US is not, all US intelligence agencies confirm there is no known threat of nuclear weapons from Iran, and IAEA has found zero evidence of nuclear weapon development.
Why did they hide the 2nd faculty?
Why do you now trust the cia, only when they say what you want to hear?
How do you know they are not hiding aditional facultys?
""It is a certainty to all of our secret services. Iran is working today on a nuclear [weapons] program," Sarkozy told lawmakers from his UMP party on Tuesday, according to Press TV."
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2. Iran never threatened to wipe Israel off the map. That is a contrivance.
Actions speak louder than words.
Iran is directly behind the the terrorist groups that murder innocent Israeli civilians.
Logically, if they could
Actions speak louder than words.
Iran is directly behind the the terrorist groups that murder innocent Israeli civilians.
Logically, if they could kill more faster they would.
Dont tell me they are afraid of suicide as jihad is a cornerstone to Islam. and again sane logical people do not kill people for their sexual orientation.
3. The US has twice, from 1953-1979 and 1980-1988 directly worked to violently overthrow Irans government.
Irrelevant to weather or not Iran is developing nuclear weapo
the same jew problem that befell russia and germany before us.
the exact same one.
arm up and make plans.
@cuthean
Thanks for being honest, and not hiding your hate behind a mask of incoherent lies.
no problem
we're going to invoke south africa and joe slovo for revenge.
there is no way out for any of us but directly through the jews.
every jew a PEARL
3. Actions speak louder than words: the US has a confirmed history or aggression; Iran does not absent proof rather than allegation of Israel.
4. Jihad is not suicide, Fool. You obviously know no Muslims, do you? You are culturally ignorant here. It is struggle for living virtuous, the same struggle as I give to you to avoid a war without cause. I applaud you with your support of homosexuals; I hope you advocate for their marriage and full civil rights.
2. So you admit the contrived words spoken by US political leaders and media is a lie? Thats admitting a Crime Against Peace and a big deal. Impeachment under law and international legal procedure, right, Fool?
The links you provide are from Israel alleging Iran sold weapons. If theyd like to press a legal case, theyre welcome to present their evidence and do so.
If actions speak loudest, the US is lying about a case for war after lying about two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan that have killed ~1.5 million, and the largest seller of weapons in the world. Whose actions show the largest aggression, Fool?
Fool:
1. Iran disclosed their nuclear facility as per NPT. The 2007 report is the NIE, which is all 16 US intelligence agencies. This indicates internal conflict within US government, as the intelligence agencies are denying intelligence cover for war. We operate under law; innocence until proven guilty. For example, prove youre not a terrorist, Fool, or an Israeli agent, or professional disinfo specialist working for the faction of our government who want war. The US is guilty by not helping Iran with nuclear energy as per NPT and not disarming their nuclear weapons. Israel refuses NPT.
cuthean:
and what "jew problem" do you mean exactly? You're saying all people of Jewish faith are a problem?
Very well said. Every American should read this.
www.globalrescue.ca USS Liberty Incident Operation Northwoods Operation Mongoose Iran-Contra Scandal Iran Air Flight 655 www.whatreallyhappened.com Former CIA Director Williman Colby-The CIA controls the news media. We can believe the government and news media or we can do our own research. The Washington think tank says Americans are incapable of thinking for themselves therefore we have to think for them. Learn about the Council on Foreign Relations. Who there are and their goals? Project for The New Century. Some very interesting names.Learn who makes up Obama's cabinet.If you really don't believe our government would think nothing for sacrafice American lives to further the goal of the CFR and the PNAC. Think again.
Well said, Bob. Thank you.
yes.
100+ countries can't all be wrong.
goldman sachs= jewish
immigration (misogyny)= jewish
federal reserve= jewish
homosexuality= jewish
pornography= jewish
newspapers= jewish
movies= jewish
televitz= jewish
affirmative action(discrimination against white males)= jewish
race mixing= jewish
taxes= jewish
I think killing young jewish women is self defense and I understand how a palestinian would willingly blow himself up to kill a handful of them
It's insane okay when an entire american government can be mislead by a handful of people into criminal wars for profit.
Fool is a retard israeli obviously. Hi Vampire.
cuthean:
You're sure you don't want to distinguish from the individuals involved in criminal activity (of whatever religion) and all people of Jewish faith? If not, you advocate genocide that by definition only sociopaths and psychopaths embrace. Really, you've never met a Jewish human being you wouldn't want to kill? I think you need some cultural exposure; you remind me of my dear-departed grandmother and her fear of Black Americans.
Carl,
Cuthean is clearly trolling the board.
I embrace genocide as much as jews do.
I embrace genocide as much as jews do.
If only the chinese didn't want to become Americanized. I can see it now. The defacto criminals say.. Ok since we can't pay you guys back you can just go ahead and have whats left of America. Only problem is there is a gun behind every tree and rock in America. Even the shrubs are buying up guns now. I guess you could blame Americans if they had a CHOICE to pay taxes or not. Even if you are paid under the table you still have sales tax. The blessing is the criminals spoiled children who are set to take over are too incompetent to keep the scam going. Eventually it will fall as you are witnessing now. You think America is crazy now wait till the American public finally snaps, takes it back and gets down business.
obama the mamzer is the mulatto face of the jewish cancer.
None of these ridiculous bloody wars or even 911 would have happened if we follwed the constitution and uprooted the pervasive weeds known as Zionists from our government/congress/pentagon.
What's good for Israel isn't necessarily good for the US,in Fact,it's usually the worst thing for the US on almost all issues.
Since 1948,we have spent roughly 80 billion dollars on Israel,could someone please tell me what we get out of this deal?
I just see a bunch of grief!.
Get rid of that Cuthean idiot. Going on about Obama being a Zionist puppet is a bit silly unless you at least accept all US presidents since LBJ have been Zionist puppets, and George Bush no less than the rest.
Every terrorist action you ALLEDGE Iran has been involved in, is vastly outweighed by proven terrorist actions against them, supported by USA. There is no comparison.
It isn't Iran supporting terrorism and an illegal occupation and ethnic cleansing, it is the USA.
Try answering the following honestly, use a search engine if in doubt and then you'll even have an idea of why what you wrote is a farce.
Who is the occupier? Who is the most powerful military force? Who controls and blocks the necessities of life? Who has sent raiding missions across the border most often? Who has sent artillery shells and missiles at close range into populated areas? Who has refused the repeated comprehensive peace offerings of the Arab countries issued in 2002 if Israel would agree to return to the 1967 borders and agree to the creation of a small independent Palestinian state possessing just twenty two percent of the original Palestine?
PS: That was to Fools.
Many comments on jews,trolls,disinformation,he said she said...A very interesting concept seen in other places: Perhaps Ahmedinejad himself is an insider...serving not Iran but those whose banks run the World.
Keep digging:
Thank you for your insight and comments. Yes, I like the idea of opening the field for people to consider active PSYOPS disinformation. I mean it's that or these people are the 1% or so of the population who are sociopathic and loveless to actually end the destruction of millions of our fellow human beings.
Yeah, Ahmadinejad might be there to keep us distrcted from the bio-weapon flu or other nefarious interests. He could so easily expose what hundreds of us are exposing but he won't do it. Why?
That's a good question.
Any of these points-of-entry can and should expose to Americans we're being massively lied to by corporate media and political "leadership" and create demand for prosecution and/or Truth and Reconciliation to rip-open the truth in all areas.
Thank you again :)
If another country threatened to invade and put my family at risk, I would be very upset. This article is a good exercise for us all.
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