Oregon Firearms Federation alerted its members about the Southern Poverty Law Center training Eugene police:
The Southern Poverty Law Center, which considers opposition to draconian gun control laws to be "crackpot," has sent one of their "experts" to Eugene to teach police from multiple agencies about "Hate in America Today- a National Overview of Far Right Domestic Terrorism."
You will recall that in the brave new world of Obama, "right wing terrorists" include gun owners, Constitutionalists, military veterans and supporters of limited government.
Here's the EPD news release. Among other things, it says:
The session examines the wide variety of hate groups currently active in the United States -- their history, activities and leaders. Beginning with a broad overview of the various factions of the hate movement, which include the Ku Klux Klan, neo-Nazis, racist Skinheads, black supremacists and others, it will then focus on the most prominent national organizations and state and local chapters. The session will also examine various techniques that will enable law enforcement professionals to spot and investigate potential domestic terrorist or hate groups.
Interesting, considering recent headlines, that one group is conspicuously not listed as currently active...
SPLC, of course, has been notorious for its attempts to imply groups like Oath Keepers are "particularly worrisome," going so far as to link to articles about them in their "Hate Watch Headlines." Spokesman Mark Potok's equivocating denial notwithstanding, the intent here is clear.
Yo, Eugene "law enforcement professionals": You all took an oath to the Constitution. Let me further "enable" you to "spot" someone who takes that seriously:
This is hateful?
I have two challenges for Eugene Police Acting Lieutenant Doug Mozan, the apparent department apologist for inviting SPLC into the fold:
1. Make all handouts and training materials used in the SPLC presentation publicly available, and disclose what, if anything, was said about Oath Keepers.
2. Invite Sheriff Richard Mack to come train your personnel, to "enable them to spot" people you should be training them to emulate.
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I'm a oath keeper, so that makes me a right wing terrorist. That's a lot better than the left wing terrorist SPLC. I'm not trying to destroy my country.
If you don't allow yourself to be terrorized, no one can be a "terrorist". On the other hand, if you are afraid of people standing up to you and your threats, I guess your intended victims become *your* "terrorists".
SPLC are a bunch of nuts who make a buck by accusing people of whatever ridiculous ideas pop into their heads. You can safely disregard EVERYTHING they say.
The SPLC reminds me of Captain Queeg in the Caine Mutiny.
It traditionally commanded some respect, but its increasingly psychotic behavior is leading it to be rightfully viewed as a mentally ill organization.
The EPD press release was written by the SPLC, it's part of the whole package. The term "hate group" is meaningless as it has no legal definition. Even the FBI doesn't track "hate groups" for that reason, so why should the EPD?
The SPLC, a private fund raising group, with more than $153 million donor dollars in its coffers, has no authority, legal or moral, to designate anyone as anything.
In March, 2008, during a highly scripted, pre-recorded, “live call-in” webcast, the SPLC’s public relations guru, Mark Potok, laid out his organization’s definition of what constituted a “hate group.” “…a “hate group” has nothing to do with criminality… [or] potential for violence…” Rather, as Potok put it, “It’s all about ideology.”
It’s all about ideology. SPLC founder, Morris Dees’ ideology.
The “law center” has no interest in criminality or violence. All that matters is whether or not a group conforms to Morris Dees’ left-wing wo
No, no, no, JSmith you cannot "safely" ignore everything they say. You can rightfully repudiate it, you can rightfully categorize it as unpatriotic nonsense, but if you ignore it you do so at great risk to your person and your liberty.
They cannot be 'safely' ignored. Anymore than one can 'safely' ignore a rattlesnake's buzz.
Think about this, if the EDP is taken in by their propaganda, SPLC has just recruited a whole department of 'hired guns' to their cause to your detriment.
The "Southen Povety Laawwwww Centa", has never seen a group of white lawabiding Americans that it though weren't terrorists or nativists,or racists. The more Americans allow that corrupt organiation to have its way, the deeper Americans are going to fall into slavery. Think about it.
The SPLC is a hate group.
The SPLC and the ACLU are anti-America groups whose sole purpose is to "victimize" minority groups in the U.S., defend them in spurious lawsuits while at the same time labeling law and order groups (whose members happen to be mostly white) as "hate groups" or "racists". Savage has been openly calling for RICO to be used against both groups to shut them down...but there've been no D.A.s who will take them on.
Someone should blow up the SPLC and shoot all their "agents" and have the "rest in Peace" in their graves.
I believe Razor's Edge is an agent provocateur at worst, a shill of the SPLC to falsely prove their point.
"Razor's Edge"--let me guess--you're either a provocateur or someone trying to make it look like the pro-freedom side believes in initiating acts of terrorism. I was going to delete your comment, but I think I'll let it stand. Sorry, but if anyone from SPLC feels threatened by this and demands an investigation, I won't be able to keep site visit records from being looked at by responding law enforcement.
I agree, it's probabaly more effective to simply identify them for what they are, and focus on that. To me they are nothing more than a pack of anti-Christian, anti-White, shakedown artists.
IMO, SPLC is not just anti-American it is a Communist front group. Of course Communist supporters trying to get a foothold in the US will call any one who disagrees with them "racist, extremist, extremist, or (yes) terrorist." That is the way Communists create revolutions, foster social turmoil while discrediting the loyalist.
I wonder how the good people of Oregon would react if they knew exactly who SPLC is and what form of government they promulgate.
David, I hope my opinion is not offensive.
"David, I hope my opinion is not offensive."
I see no reason he would find it to be. The post he objected to was one in which a person advocated violence. (most likely a leftist goon in drag)
It truly would be difficult to add anything meaningful. However, leaving the agent provocateurs comment up was a very smart move. Historically SLPC's modus operandi has been to use things done by others to hammer an organization based upon some tenuous link.
If, in fact, they were really all about what they claim to be? Then the New Black Panthers would be right up there with the KKK. But, that will never happen.
"Sorry, but if anyone from SPLC feels threatened by this and demands an investigation, I won't be able to keep site visit records from being looked at by responding law enforcement."- David Codrea in response to Razor's Edge threat of terroristic violence against the SPLC.
I feel compelled to add this, David. If no one from the SPLC feels threatened by this, in view of all those peaceable Americans by which they feel threatened and who have made no threats, we will know for sure that Razor's Edge was a plant by them to provoke violence for them to exploit for their own aims.
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