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Rocketown controversy: hardcore satanic metal at Christian teen venue Rocketown Halloween week


Michael W. Smith photo from Wikipedia

Tonight Channel 2 WKRN reported on a story concerning Nashville's Christian teen hangout, Rocketown, which is presenting a show of hardcore satanic metal music the week of Halloween (see video below). Keith Mohr, the founder and president of gospel music's Indieheaven.com, was briefly interviewed regarding his recent experience with the teen ministry. I contacted Keith Mohr, and he graciously agreed to share some of the details about the Rocketown controversy with Examiner readers. 

Rocketown's Controversial October 27 Line-Up

"My wife and myself are concerned parents," Keith explained, saying they have a 16-year-old son who wanted to attend a pre-Halloween-themed concert at Rocketown coming up on October 27 after a friend shared songs by The Black Dahlia Murder with him. "My son liked the way their music sounded," Mohr said, stating he and his wife listened to the songs, and although the lyrics were hard to understand, they found the music to be "very dark sounding."

The Black Dahlia Murder

Mohr and his wife did some research on The Black Dahlia Murder, Toxic Holocaust, Skeletonwitch and Trap Them and found the bands to be "hardcore satanic bands" and overtly anti-Christian. Mohr points out, "Their lyrics are anti-christian and very graphic." One example is the The Black Dahlia Murder song "Black Valor" which proclaims:

Join us! Black valor's on our side / Striking with satanic force we'll crush their fabled Christ  www.lyricsmania.com

Mohr also visited The Black Dahlia Murder's MySpace where he watched a promotional video about the band. "They were doing drugs and drinking on their tour bus. I am sure other impressionable youth have seen this video and been impacted by their activities."  

Rocketown Sending Mixed Signals?

After Mohr found out more about the bands and what they are saying in their songs, he posted about the upcoming Rocketown show on his Facebook page. "I raised the question - was it wise for Rocketown to have a concert with satanic bands performing, and how does that mesh with their mission?" And Mohr points out that while the satanic line-up is showcasing at Rocketown the week of Halloween, "Rocketown has had bands like these in for at least the last few years quite often."

Mixed Reactions to Rocketown Controversy

Mohr admits that while response on his Facebook network was strongly against Rocketown's night of satanic music, there has been a mixed reaction to the Rocketown controversy elsewhere. "Some see no issue. Others like me, take offense that an establishment that calls itself Christian and tells parents it is a safe haven for their kids, are bringing in hardcore satanic bands with the hopes that some may think Rocketown is a cool place and come back for something a bit more wholesome and enriching."

Michael W. Smith Introduces Rocketown in 1994

Rocketown was launched by Michael W. Smith in the Cool Springs Mall area in Williamson County in 1994. "It is well known that there is a great need for weekend/night time entertainment for teens and young people in this area, not to mention entertainment that is Christian quality controlled," Michael W. Smith stated when he introduced Rocketown. "'Rocketown' is a place where teens can go to socialize, play games, dance or listen to music without being bombarded by drugs, alcohol and sexual temptations."

Rocketown a Non-Traditional Ministry

However, Rocketown, which is now located in downtown Nashville, pointed out on the WKRN segment that they are a non-traditional ministry that wants to pull in unchurched kids, providing Christian and non-Christian teens alike a venue to see concerts in a safe environment.

Rocketown Mission Statement

The Rocketown mission statement reads:

Rocketown shares Christ's love with youth through creative programs and mentoring relationships that are culturally relevant and eternally significant.

Find out more about Rocketown's Halloween week schedule at the Rocketown calendar.

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  • Emylou Lewis 2 years ago
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  • Chris 2 years ago
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    This is TERRIBLE. This truly shows how you guys judge metal bands just because they tell stories. If they wanna do drugs or drink, let them do it. If your gonna get on them, get the many other Christians that do the same. And I say this being 4 months sober and that has NO effect on me. Thank you for your time.

  • Jordan Munson, a metal fan and non-satanist 2 years ago
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    Singing about a topic ? beign a believe in that topic.

    What if the members of these bands were actually satanists, and sang about Christian themes in a non-defamatory way? Would you still have a problem with it?

    The lyrics are for show, and to enrich the experience. In no way are these bands (to my knowledge) trying to push non-wholesome values to your kids. If you've seen anything about music/the metal mindset in the last few decades, bands like to take a page from Alice Cooper's book, and look for the shock value.

    So please, before you lay down your judgements, take a less serious and more in-depth look at the band members actual beliefs and find out why their lyrics are the way they are.

  • Jordan Munson, a metal fan and non-satanist 2 years ago
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    That was supposed to display a ? not a ? (to show that singing about a topic does not mean you believe in it)

  • Jordan Munson, a metal fan and non-satanist 2 years ago
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    I guess comments here cannot display the "unequal to" sign. :(

  • pingas 2 years ago
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    "hardcore satanic metal" lol

  • Robert in Nashville 2 years ago
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    I have to laugh at some of these comments from reader! Kids look up to the bands. Doesn't matter if it's "just for show" - it is still not a good message for kids, especially in a "Christian" club or whatever Rockettown is. And someone played the "evil Christians do it too" card. Hahaha! You guys crack me up. You need to get some new material - you sound like a broken records. Of COURSE Christians do it too! Show me where it is EVER printed anywhere that Christians say we don't sin and mess up. The difference is, we recognize our sins are WRONG, admit our sins are WRONG, and try to get out of the way so Christ can change us into something better. Try to find some new insults, boys. The "Christians do it too" is so 1980s.

  • MrMDK187 2 years ago
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    This is a brilliant Idea. Bring the lost to you. gee I wonder who else did that? Jesus.
    If you think the christian kids are not exsposed to this stuff every day your kidding your self. They need to be able to stand agints the darkness where ever it is. Take your youth group to this and do a rescue mission. This is an awesome oppertunity to reach out in a place where hard core kids would rarly come in contact with church goers. Lets be honest this is brilliant! and I dont wana hear any whining about the light having no fellowship with darkness. Read Mark 2. If you dissagree with anything I just said you need to check your theology with the heart of Christ and repent.

  • Ice Cold 2 years ago
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    Satanism in Metal really got moving in the late 70's with a British band by the name of Venom. The band's use of satanist lyrics were all tongue and cheek and not serious in any way. From there a tradition was set in metal music that Satan would be a common lyrical theme in the genre, even though was used in a tongue in cheek fashion, or Satan as a hellish figure. the only time metal bands really claimed to be satanist was in the Norwegian black metal scene in the early 90's. The book, Lords of Chaos shows that many of these bands have a very small view of the world as is and hardly know anything of what they are preaching.
    You guys need to stop condemning heavy metal music, if the kids like it, then let them enjoy it. It is not that hard to do research on the genre and found out why it is the way it is. if people are sheltered and stupid enough to believe the lyrics, then they should have been raised better in the first place.

  • Steven 2 years ago
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    This Keith Mohr guy is a hack journalist from a hack wannabe indie co-op pseudo-label. After some investigating online, it looks like he uses the Christian faith to pull on the heartstrings of amateur artists so that they will buy their way on to his label and partner services that have no real credentials other than it being 'indie' and 'Christian'.

    What's worse, having a faith-based venue that let's anyone play any kind of music or using that same faith to make a quick buck off of the hopes and dreams of others who sincerely believe???

  • dean dokken 2 years ago
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    wow...i cant belive this...ive personally met alotof the dudes in these "hardcore satanic" metal bands and theyare defiantly more down to earth than any of you christian know it alls...hey....it just music! calm down! there should be no controvercy..if u dnt want your kid to go, dont let them...i feel bad for them but just dont let them. bc u know sheltering your kids is deinatly good for them....you people make me sick.

  • OnTour64 2 years ago
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    The comments posted here are all from outsiders, (fans / attendees), to this industry, looking in. I have been in the touring industry for 20+ years and have seen the antics that these bands partake of first hand, the things most of you only see on You Tube or read about. I also have a 16 year old son who recently wanted to attend a concert at Rocketown. When asked what type music the bands played his response was "Christian Rock", the band he wanted to see was actually a Christian oriented band. He gave me the list of the bands and I did the research to see what type music and lyrical content they purveyed. All but one were of seriously questionable content, even for an industry insider like myself.

  • OnTour64 2 years ago
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    The bigger crime is that the folks who promote these shows put the token Christian band on the bill, I guess so there is some tie to RT's stated purpose or maybe to diffuse a parents concern about what their children are being exposed to, and then fills out the line up with this dark, destructive form of music. Kids do look up to these bands. Trust me Jordan, I've known my share of "artists" who've gone thru rehab due to their "enrichment of the experience". I have no problem with all the types of music there are out there, I've toured within most genres. The problem here is the hypocrisy between the mission statement of the venue and what actually takes place there, the fact that a major CCM Artist is one of the founders and either endorses the behavior or knows noting about how his "christian venue" is being ran. There are enough examples of this type hypocrisy in todays world, change the venues name to Satan's Den and rock on, but at least be honest about what you represent.

  • Keith Mohr 2 years ago
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    David,
    Wow.. Real nice.. Nothing to do with the actual issue and a personal attack on me. Now I know Im onto something with this!

  • Keith Mohr 2 years ago
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    The issue is not if I like metal or not, or if I like satanic bands or not.. The issue is that Rocketown promotes itself as a Christian venue and a safe place, however they are booking acts that are blatantly anti-christian and satanic. It is my opinion that this is in error. Jesus never put the 99 sheep in danger when he went after the 1 sheep that strayed. He also never used demons and darkness to draw a crowd. He cast demons out of people. He told people to go and sin no more. He didn't create some sort of venue, charge sinners to come into it, and then give them more of the same while trying to covertly bait and switch them.

    I don't care if you agree with me or not.. It means nothing to me. Of course you metal heads and punkers will disagree with me, its the nature of the beast.

  • Keith Mohr 2 years ago
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    Check out a video blog about the satanic concert at Rocketown. This guy is a pagan and gets it! Check it out..
    tinyurl.com/yhkoxz8

  • Observer 2 years ago
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    A lot of people get it, Keith. It's just these articles which allow people to post anonymously attract the elements that want to ramble and spew, often using several fake names to back themselves up. As is usually the case, the "silent majority" doesn't want to get involved, remains silent, shakes their collective heads at the rude posts, and moves on, while the ones who thrive on mean-spirited, insulting comments come back again and again, somehow believing that leaving the most obnoxious comment somehow means they've "won."

  • Former Rocketown Employee 2 years ago
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    OK, I was around in the early years and have kinda lost touch for the past few, but...

    While we definitely had our growing pains early on while trying to really find a way to get the kids to come out, I think we landed at a good place in terms of letting mainstream artists play there.

    The fact is that playing "Christian" music does not equal "lifting up Jesus that men might be drawn to Him." Real ministry has to do with one-on-one, interpersonal relationships between Father's children and those He is wooing, not having "Christian" bands play "Christian" songs.

    I know we played music that wasn't "praise and worship" but it wasn't filthy either. But when it was music the kids knew and enjoyed, they came. When they came to the club, they were greeted and engaged by people who know Father and who love Him. Those people were able to walk with those kids on a regular basis and actually get to a point to speak into their lives with action and love, and that's where LIFE CHANGE happe

  • What the? 2 years ago
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    Man, the recession has really got business models turned on their heads! If we can't get the Christian bands to sell...lets bring in the Satanic Metal then. Just as long as they don't swear or anything. LOL! Yeah. There doing it all for Christ...give me a break. This is the ol' "no publicity is bad publicity". Pathetic and desperate.

  • Pat 2 years ago
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    To Former Rocketown Employee and others who seem to think this is about Rocketown should only play Christian music all the time, just looking at this article and Keith More's comments, it doesn't sound like that is what he or the writer are saying. I think the issue - for me at least - is why is Rocketown allowing blatantly satanic ANTI-Christian bands to play. I don't see anyone saying all the bands have to be Christian and sing only about Jesus. But Rocketown is a Christian ministry and advertises itself as a safe place. According to the article, MWS said it would be a safe place kids could go w/o "being bombarded by drugs, alcohol and sexual temptations." I would think that would also apply to the kinds of music the kids hear there. After reading this article, I went to all the links she posted, and those bands really do depict a dangerous drug/alcohol lifestyle on their websites and they do have lyrics that are just evil. I don't want my kids to think that is "safe" or OK.

  • Keith Mohr 2 years ago
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    Right on. My issue is specifically with the lineup of bands on oct 27. I don't keep up with what bands Rocketown books, what I thought was foolish was bringing in bands that LIVE what they are PERFORMING and that by opening the stage to these bands, it sends a message that Rocketown is OK with this behavior and message. I like and listen to mainstream music. I'm not some "Jerry Fallwell" type of person. I am barely a Christian:) I portray one on TV:) My beef is that Rocketown needs to be more excellent when it comes to what bands is has in, and if they are going to have satanic bands, make a note of that on their website, and when they go and raise hundreds of thousands of dollars from well to do Christians. Just call it what it is.

  • Emily, Manchester UK 2 years ago
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    I understand the issues around making it attractive to ‘un-churched’ teens, as I currently work as a secular youth worker. This time last year I was running a busy youth centre. We had a DJ room which was usually packed with lads aged 13-16 Djing/rapping and listening to what was going on. The only real control I had, was that I would take off any inappropriate music and they had to think about their lyrics.

    Rocketown has always promoted itself as a Christian venue. Why should that be an issue? As a teen in the UK in the 1990s, it was hard to find positive Christian music to listen to, and bands like the World Wide Message Tribe introduced me to other Christian bands playing Christian music, which provided good, positive role models.

    Part of youth work is about informal education which is positive and life affirming, helping young people to deal with life issues, and build confidence. So should any youth venue be allowing bands to play if their lyrics contradict this?

  • Keith Mohr 2 years ago
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    So Emily, are you saying it is OK for a Christian venue to have satanic bands in their venue?

  • Emily, Manchester UK 2 years ago
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    Hi Keith, please carefully reread what I said, as you'll realise that in fact I think any venue which promotes itself as a youth venue should be promoting positive life views, and therefore should not be encouraging young people to listen to negative, dark, satanic lyrics.

    To be honest, just the names of the bands concern me, even before I've listened to the lyrics. In my work, I have a duty of care to the young people I work with, and many of whom are already from difficult family circumstances and continually get in trouble with the law through anti-social behaviour. So my question is: would I want to encourage them to increase this kind of negative behaviour and mindset or do I want to help them get out of this?

  • Emily, Manchester UK 2 years ago
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    Hi Keith, please carefully reread what I said, as you'll realise that in fact I think any venue which promotes itself as a youth venue should be promoting positive life views, and therefore should not be encouraging young people to listen to negative, dark, satanic lyrics.

    To be honest, just the names of the bands concern me, even before I've listened to the lyrics. In my work, I have a duty of care to the young people I work with, and many of whom are already from difficult family circumstances and continually get in trouble with the law through anti-social behaviour. So my question is: would I want to encourage them to increase this kind of negative behaviour and mindset or do I want to help them get out of this?

  • Mike 2 years ago
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    I have attended several concerts with my son at Rocketown. My first impression was this is a great place for kids to hang, but I did not see or get a Christian feel. Most the bands were scream o style bands the kids really like it. My kids band played Rocketown in July this year. They play actual Christian rock with a message in the lyrics. When they played the crowd that was present seemed to enjoy the music. Since most the bands that night were much harder we were not sure what response we would get. This spawned an idea to bring a message in the music to Rocketown. November 13,there will be a Rock the Message concert at Rocketown. This concert is for youth as well as adults that want a night of great music while bringing the message that I believe Rocketown originally intended to promote to the youth that come there. Nothing against the harder music, most of the bands are really amazing,I personally just don't see much of a positive message in most lyrics.

  • From Ohio 2 years ago
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    I am a Christian and personally a fan of all of the bands on this tour. The musicians work hard on their craft and are very good at what they create, though their lyrics are often written simply to shock and usually only hold an ironic, often comedic meaning.

    Mohr, I find it strange that you attack these bands without considering the cultural impact that they have: The Black Dahlia Murder, whether you like them or not, are one of the more popular bands of their genre in the country. If our goal as Christians is to reach the lost, does it not make sense that we welcome them into our churches unconditionally before attacking them with the same preachy message that probably drove them away from the gospel before? God's message is for all people, and it's worth considering that we keep ministry on a personal, relationship-based level instead of insisting on building a Christian subculture that makes Christians comfortable while driving away non-Christians. I'd love to hear your thoughts

  • Not from Ohio 2 years ago
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    Where exactly is Mohr "attacking" the bands, Ohio? He just says he doesn't think they should play at a Christian venue. Put down the Harlequin Romance and get your panties out of a wad, Ohio. Stop being deliberately oversensitive, and don't call an "opinion" an "attack." This isn't the Miss USA Pageant where beauty queens get strung up for stating an opinion.

  • Keith Mohr 2 years ago
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    Mike, thats great! Now that will be a show I would want my kid to go see. Way to bring quality music to a place that needs it!

  • Keith Mohr 2 years ago
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    Ohio... you are not quite getting the issue.
    I find it interesting that a Christian would like and appreciate the kind of lyrics Black Dahlia presents in their songs. I don't care if they are popular or not, their lyrics are straight from the pit of hell, and I think even if they are for shock value or comedic, they are highly offensive to me personally.

    The issue is Rocketown allowing this influence into their establishment. To me, its foolish and causes confusion for parents who let their children go to concerts there. Most parents are not like myself and my wife, who investigated this concert, found out the 4 bands preach satanic messages and live a lifestyle that we do not agree with. So, our kid wont be attending. However, I felt it was important to bring this issue to light and warn other parents who take Rocketown's mission statement to heart and trust them. Rocketown needs to have a disclaimer on its site warning parents. It all would be a mute point if Rocketow

  • Keith Mohr 2 years ago
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    I sent Ben Cissell, director of Rocketown this message:
    Ben
    Ive been thinking of a few things you can do to help parents decide which shows they would want their kids to attend.
    On your show page:

    Put this:

    RCKTWN has never been a Christian Music Venue. It is a music venue staffed by Christians.

    Also, next to each show listing, have a "Parental Advisory" label, much like is on music that has questionable content.
    That way, parents can quickly skim the shows you have listed and decide if its a decent show.
    The show ratings you have listed mean nothing, when determining if a show is "safe" to attend.

    Have you ever considered this? If you did this, you would resolve this issue that keeps popping up.
    Keith Mohr

  • Kathryn Nashville Gospel Music/Ent. Examiner 2 years ago
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    Keith,

    I think you have done an excellent job presenting your concerns and keeping your cool in response to various comments posted here. I am a bit surprised there is much debate about what types of music are appropriate for a Christian teen club. Like others have said, not all bands have to be Christian, but anti-Christian and satanic? Whether it's for "fun" or "irony," that is NOT appropriate for a Christian teen club. When I have donated to Rocketown in the past, I had no idea my contributions went to that kind of "entertainment."

    I am even more surprised at the amount of vitriol aimed at you simply for voicing your concerns. People are welcome to voice their opinions here, and I rarely delete comments (actually, I rarely read them), but it is too bad some feel like the best way to voice an opposing POV is to insult, mock and belittle. That's one reason I don't read the comments often - so much hostility just because someone dares to voice an opinion someone else doesn't like

  • Keith Mohr 2 years ago
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    Well, kids are passionate about what they believe in, and if thats a place they feel good about, well.. good for them.

    As a parent, I felt the bands scheduled there on Oct 27 were a bit much in their content. Then again, I'm getting older and maybe I'm out of touch:)

    If Rocketown would simply do a better job communicating what the venue is, and flag shows that are not positive in nature, that would help parents decide which events they would feel comfortable allowing their kids to attend.

    I know I have been vocal about this, and in retrospect, I should have gone right to the leadership to express my concern. Live and learn!

    But hey, we've had a great discussion about this hot topic!
    Carry on everyone, rock hard!

  • Cronic 2 years ago
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    Man, I get what you mean. Parents do have the right to be concerned about this sort of thing. But Keith. Your son is 16 years old. Is he not old enough to differentiate the messages he hears, and the messages he believes?

    Oh, and by the way. "Black Dahlia Murder" is not close to as bad as it gets.
    If you want to hear satanic, listen to some leftover crack.

  • Keith Mohr 2 years ago
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    In this case Chronic, we did the investigation into the band and found out what they were all about. My son could not tell from their songs what they were, because he could not understand their lyrics. Im sure there are worse bands out there.

  • Brian Carr 2 years ago
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    You are all idiots, Music is music. The words could mean a thousand things. A writer makes what sounds good with the music it has to do with personal things and these things that you may be calling satanic are metaphors for something else. If you don't like it don't listen, if you don't want your kids affected don't let them listen. See if that stops them from being influenced any differently from watching tv or playing video games or watching the daily news. It shows plenty of violent acts and drug and alcohol use. You can't get away from it so stop blaming the bands for societys problems

  • Keith Mohr 2 years ago
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    Sorry Brian, you are dead wrong.

  • Ashley 2 years ago
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    First of all, I just want to say that I truly feel sympathy for the children of these parents who are still telling them what music they can and cannot listen to.

    I am an atheist raised in the center of alabama and i feel i am able to make more clear and responsible choices than those of my religious peers because my parents allowed me to make decisions for myself at a young age.

    No matter what music plays at Rocketown, it seems as if they are going to a safe venue to hear it. You can always tell your children not go to this show and risk them going and finding other, more unsafe places to hang out on Halloween weekend.
    By making them stay home, you are not teaching children how to wisely make decisions. You are only creating and fueling hatred and fear.

  • Not from Ohio 2 years ago
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    Brian Carr, where is anyone "blaming the bands for societys problems"??? Again, all anyone has said here is that satanic, anti-christian bands DO NOT BELONG AT A CHRISTIAN TEEN CLUB. And Ashley, as long as these little 16-year-old children like yourself live at home supported by their parents, it is the parent's duty to give them structure, rules, and boundaries such as telling them certain activities and music are inappropriate. Maybe your parents should give it a try.

  • Keith Mohr 2 years ago
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    Our son is not on a tight leash, not at all. It just so happened we discovered this band and felt what they were stating in their music was way, way over the top and not conducive to a positive lifestyle and spiritual path. It is our opinion Ashley, and you of all people should respect that.

    As parents, it is our responsibility to insure our children are not put into places of danger, hence our reasoning for not allowing our son to attend the show at Rocketown on Oct 27, 2009, where 4 bands of satanic nature were performing. To us, it didn't matter it was called "safe" by the staff of RT.

    So, you would be OK with Rocketown bringing in strippers so the porn addicts can get their fix, and a bar so the drunks can come in and get their fix, and call it "safe"??

    Also, Ashley, when you become the parent of a teen, you may have a different viewpoint when it comes to parenting. Come see me in about 10 years and we'll see how you feel then.

  • Keith Mohr 2 years ago
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    Keep in mind folks, RKTWN does not say they are a Christian club. Ben Cissell, one of the directors shared with me that RKTWN has never been a Christian venue, it is a venue operated by Christians.

    They should put that statement right under their mission statement on their Rocketown Website, which is:

    Rocketown shares Christ’s love with youth through creative programs and mentoring relationships that are culturally relevant and eternally significant.

    That way, it is more clear as to what their mission is.. (I think)

    In any regard, Rocketown should be clear about all of their activities. If the live concert venue has all kinds of music/bands there, just say so. Don't hide behind the "we're christians, and want to share Christ's love with your kids" while they allow satanic bands in to perform.

    To me, that does not make sense, and confuses people.
    They can easily clear up the confusion by clarifying their mission, especially for the live venue part.

  • Keith Mohr 2 years ago
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    Brian Carr, you tell me what these lyrics by Black Dahlia Murder mean, since you know the metaphors..

    Christ Deformed

    Wolves beset this fallen church of blasphemy
    Orgies in blood shall deflorate its purity
    Defecate on the liars book of sick belief
    No one shall be saved the way to hell has here been paved

    A din of stained glass fragments
    Cut your flesh to the bone
    Baptized in black blood
    Hymen breached with a cross
    Children of your lord
    Semen peppers their faces
    We seek to distort
    Our kingdom shall come
    Rise! The dead burst forth from ancient tombs
    The steaming bowels of seraphs violently strewn
    Hell is here sermons backwards preach death and doom
    Flagellate and rape bloodlet the pilgrims of their faith

    Drain them of their sanctity
    Perpetuate their tragedy
    Infect them with all our disease
    Mock his altar of deceit

    With hell reborn
    Your Christ be scorned

    Diabolic ritual open the portal to damnation
    Dark legions gathering for virtuous insemination
    Mole

  • You are stupid 2 years ago
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    Wow... this is the dumbest thing ever... Maybe if you guys were better parents you're kids wouldn't turn to drugs...

    get a grip

  • Robby Starbuck 2 years ago
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    Hey guys...

    Enlighten your soul instead of infesting yourselves in a mediocre argument you don't really have a reason to be fighting - you don't like the band don't go to church... Oh wait... It's not a church, it's a music venue...

    "If you read history you will find that the Christians who did most for the present world were precisely those who thought most of the next. It is since Christians have largely ceased to think of the other world that they have become so ineffective in this.
    C. S. Lewis " (known as the 'Apostle to the Skeptics')

  • Robby Starbuck 2 years ago
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    Keith,

    Christians are supposed to welcome the tortured, the beaten, the broken, the poor, the sick, the evil, everyone. Jesus intended to teach people through loving action - Not a hypocritical narrow view... This isn't how the 'flock' grows... It's called a flock for a reason too, as a christian i'd like to say the other 95% of christians embarrass me, for the most part their ill informed. This is because they either don't take the time to know, or they become "born again" when they do something wrong in life and suddenly have a degree in theology as well as assuming they know Christian values all of a sudden. I actually majored in theology and I have one thing to say to you, think really hard on this one.

    If you read history you will find that the Christians who did most for the present world were precisely those who thought most of the next. It is since Christians have largely ceased to think of the other world that they have become so ineffective in this.
    C. S. Lewis

  • getyoasstobed 2 years ago
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    isnt it past your bedtime, little Johnny? You have school in 5 hours!

  • Rachel C 2 years ago
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    Listen, it's simple. If you don't like the music or the band, then don't let your kids go to that show, but don't deny others who enjoy the music the right to see the band, that's cruel and it's unnecessary censorship. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and not everyone is christian, and since music is a universal thing it has the right to exist no matter your opinion. If you don't like it, don't listen to it. SIMPLE.

  • Adam 2 years ago
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    It's always been my experience that the best parents (and subsequently human beings) are the ones that don't demonize other people, or bands in this case, but instead foster an environment of questioning and openness to experience. When people are not diverse and are only exposed to a dualistic, right vs. wrong, world they tend to be hateful, arrogant, naive, and ultimately scared. I don't much care for the music myself, but Christianity does not warrant condemnation, if anything, you parents should go to the concert as well, and be examples of love and peace. That's what Jesus would have done.

    Think about this for a second: If God's power is so great that he created everything and can end everything, don't you think that your son/daughter can withstand the lyrics in question if they are believers? If you are afraid of temptation and evil in the world and attempt to box yourself off from it, boy do you have another thing coming!

  • Travis 2 years ago
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    I wholeheartedly agree with Adam's standpoint on this. The way to build spiritual strength is not to avoid temptation, it is to endure it. Much like the body's immune system, you cannot spend your life hiding from sickness and expect not to fall ill; the same concept goes for your mind and spirit, as well. If your children are not exposed to things of the world while they are under your care, they certainly will be when they are not and in that scenario, what will they do to resist? I'm a Christian and though my beliefs may differ slightly from a typical, by-the-books, southern Baptist sort of doctrine, I still know that I have a relationship with a God that loves me dearly.

    Also, to comment on the music, The Black Dahlia Murder is an extremely talented band that deserves respect simply for their talent and drive. Like has been said, this issue as a whole should have been settled between you and your kids, it is not your place to deny anyone else from attending this show.

  • Keith Mohr 2 years ago
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    Good point Adam.. thats what we did with our son. We looked at the bands, learned about what they were all about and decided it was best not to attend. Since Rocketown does a poor job of telling people what types of bands are appearing there, we did the digging ourselves. I then felt compelled to tell other parents to do the same thing we did. Make sure before letting your kid go to Rocketown that you research the bands.

    And there is good and bad. It is according to each persons standards.

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