Nonito Donaire Sr. and Jr. back in 2008 (AP Photo)
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I was watching UFC 110 last week with my friends when I received a phone call from Nonito Donaire Sr. who at the time was in Puerto Rico preparing his ward Marvin Sonsona for his title shot against Wilfredo Vasquez Jr.
Sr. asked me if I had time to hear him out regarding his reaction on some headlines he read on the internet that painted his son in a generous and positive light.
Those who have followed my column are aware that I have followed the career of "The Filipino Flash" Nonito Donaire Jr. and his rise to stardom.
At the end of the day however, I only call things as I see it and when Donaire Sr. offered his sentiments, opinions, observations and experiences regarding "the other side" of his son, I of course am not one to turn away a man who sincerely simply wants to be heard.
In the spirit of fairness, I have been writing all the positives I have seen from Nonito Donaire Jr. and things they have shared to me in the past. Now that his father reached out to me to have this interview made public, it is my job to do so.
Because of the circumstances that day, I requested Sr. if I could schedule an interview with him instead so I can record what he wanted to say and have him personally tell the story to our readers on his side of the story.
Much has been written in the media in the past about this issue but little has been heard from Sr. himself. As the story goes, after Donaire's successful title defense against Mthlane back in 2008, the father-and-son tandem had a falling out. Follow the story as Donaire Sr. spoke from the heart and held back no punches. I also translated this interview in English below the video.
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PART 1
Translated quotes from part 1:
dSource - You had called me last Saturday after you've read some articles on the internet regarding your son. Let's talk about what you wanted to share.
Nonito Donaire Sr. - I didn't really read it, I just saw the header because I don't really read any articles about him (his son Nonito Jr.) anymore because what for? He doesn't really recognize us (his family) anymore. So it's almost like we've lost interest on any news about him.
dSource - Yes and it's really sad when you think about it.. so what's the real situation now between you and your son?
Nonito Donaire Sr. - I really don't understand it Dennis because for one, we didn't get into any fight. After his fight against Mthalane, his second defense at flyweight, we didn't get into an argument or anything and then after that fight I went home to the Philippines. When I was in the Philippines, all of a sudden I read on the internet that they were already looking for a new trainer without even consulting me. After that there was no more. We never really had any form of communication.
dSource - So it's like all of a sudden there was a gap. What do you think caused that?
Nonito Donaire Sr. - I don't blame anybody about that other than his wife because it's like his wife is the one telling her to do everything. It's like she's his voice ever since they got married. Ever since they met each other, Jr. had nothing come out of his mouth other than 'I'm so proud of my fiancee and stuff like that, 'I'm so proud of my girlfriend', that's all you'll ever hear. He's not proud of the people that put him in the position he's now in. He's forgotten about the people that fed him.
dSource- I am not one to start controversy and there's much written in the media. I just wanted to hear you out but if it were up to me I want to help find a solution to this. What do you think can help fix the gap between you and your son?
Nonito Donaire Sr. - It's almost like there's nothing that can be done anymore Dennis because if you can imagine he doesn't even greet his mother anymore. When he sent $500 to his mom for her birthday, he didn't really show his face or anything. He just wrote Happy Birthday then put $500 and they also included a list with all the grocery expenditures when he became a champion. They sent a letter calculating everything. They didn't even think that when he didn't have a job, it was all of us that supported him- me, his mom, his cousins and even his youngest sibling would take him out back when he had no money, but he changed. He even turned his back on his promise to his older brother that when he becomes a champion again that he will ask his brother to leave his job so he can focus on boxing, but when he got married, everything changed.
dSource - That's sad to hear. If you have anything to say to Nonito and I'm sure this message will get to him, what do you want to tell him? Do you want to talk to him? What's our stance here?
Nonito Donaire Sr. - I want to talk to him and ask him why he seems like he is so mad at our family as if we all have some disease that he is afraid of. Even his very own man, think about it Dennis, his mom that loves him so much, how it feels for a mom to hug her own child, what did he say? He just hugged her and told her to be thankful for the $500 he gave her. Is that how a son acts? Just because he gave $500 is that a big deal to him already?
dSource - So after your fight against Mthlane, you haven't really spoken to you son?
Nonito Donaire Sr. - Not anymore because since he married Rachel they were doing this that I did not agree with like when we had a fight, they were already planning after-fight parties. I didn't like that because we had a fight coming up and we didn't even know what was going to happen yet and theiy're already inviting all these people without even inviting our family. It's all about them.
dSource - I am saddened by all of this because I personally witnessed none of these and simply report what I see and I have nothing but good experiences while following Nonito Jr. To me he seems like a good and generous person but I don't see everything that goes on either.
Nonito Donaire Sr. - You can ask me or his mom so there's no lies. One of the things that hurt about this is his wife keeps on saying negative things about us in their blogs, and she says all kinds of stuff about my family and the wife of his brother when we don't even mind their business.
dSource - Has Nonito not supported you since you both parted ways?
Nonito Sr. - Since he married that girl... before he used to give his mom $500 a month. When they got married, that was cut off and Rachel was saying all kinds of things. Another painful thing is when he fought in the Philippines, it was his mom's birthday. They (Rachel's camp) gave her rules and regulations that she can't ask for a shirt, she can't ask for tickets and that she can't stand from her seat when they declare Nonito the champion because their personal security won't allow you to climb the ring. That's why when I read that, I really felt bad for my wife. She herself raised her son. We supported him from the amateurs til' he became a world champion and then that's the thanks you get?
And another thing.. she was called by GMA after Jr.'s win for an interview and then Rachel's mom told her "Where are you going? You know the rules right?" Imagine what pain a mother would feel being treated that way who didn't do anything wrong to them and all she wanted was to answer the interview by GMA.
dSource - Wow, that's really surprising. I'm sure there will be a backlash after fans hear and read this interview. I just don't want any..
Nonito Sr. - There's really no controversy Dennis because he purposely turned his back on us like we were hugely indebted to him or we did something really wrong to him for him to treat us like this.
CONTINUED ON THE NEXT PAGE (CLICK TO GO TO PAGE 2)
NOTE: Prior to releasing this article, I contacted the Donaires to inform them that I will be running this piece. I have also asked them if they wanted to respond to this interview. I for one wanted to stay away from matters outside the sport itself, but I can't turn down a person who came to me as a man wanting to get things off his chest. Nonito Donare Sr. insisted that he wanted everything from our interview to be made public. Hopefully this interview can create a dialog between father and son that will ultimately squash this issue and for everyone involved to just get along.
Dennis "D Source" Guillermo is a freelance sportswriter. You can contact him through e-mail at hoodartz@yahoo.com.
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donaire sr. is not a good trainer and coach. look at what happened to sonsona earlier and ciso two weeks ago. no wonder his son dumped his ass. he should stay at home and watch the fights instead. they shuoldn't make sonsona go for another title fight. they should've focused on building up his resume. sonsona hasnt even reached 20 bouts yet and he's fightin for a championship belt already. i think its his handlers fault and not sonsona himself.
Nonito Jr.is saying one thing and his fatheris saying another. The truth is probably somewhere in between.
wala pala utang na loob si nonito Jr. Disrespectful malayo sya kay pacquiao.
@cjay well i can agree with you with donaire sr. being not a good trainer and coach but i think you cannot discount him being a good father and his wife being a good mother.
I Hope the father and son will get back to normal ,it will, Nonito jr is a nice guy wag ka lang mag pa under sa asawa mo.
nice post man. i know it must've been hard for you to get caught between the crossfire. but good job on posting this article.
who knows? it might be you putting your neck out there that finally solves the Donaire family dilemma.
first of all, THIS IS A FAMILY AFFAIR. Donaire Sr left camp after
Mthalane's fight. So far Sr's fighters are loosing because it is called KARMA...WHAT KIND OF FATHER LIES AND BASHES HIS SON IN PUBLIC, DOES HE REALLY THINK THIS IS THE WAY TO FIX THE FAMILY ISSUES...WHY DONT SR TALK TO HIS SON JR. OH AND BY THE WAY THE
RULES GIVEN TO HIS MOTHER ON DAY OF FIGHT IN MANILA IS THE SAME RULES EVERYONE ELSE GOT.......
SR WANTS LOTS AND LOTS OF $$$$$$$$ FROM JR...AND HE IS DOING
ALL WRONG.
SR WANTS HIS BOXER'S LOSSES TO BE OUT OF FOCUS FROM HIM AND TO GO TO HIS SON .....BADMOUTHING AND EVERYTHING.
WHAT KIND OF FATHER IS HE. DONAIRE JR IS THE GENEROUS AND KIND TYPE A PERSON...YOUR FAMILY MUST HAVE DONE SOMETHING REALLY
REALLY BADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD TO DONAIRE JR.
KARMA SUCKS, DOESN'T IT
a fighter is responsible for his own loss. a trainer can guide him but once the fighter steps into the ring it's in his hands. let's not blame sr. for the loss.
There was a time when I never cared about the personal life of a boxer. After reading this, it dawned upon me that yes, boxers do have interesting lives, even twisted ones.
From now on, I can never view any boxer as simply being an athlete or a hero. I will always consider about great their life stories would be inside tabloids.
Hey, have you heard, Pacquiao once said "P*ta" in public during one of his tours? Wow, this is so unimaginable. Imagine the super national hero saying such a vile word!
I'll be sure to check back on this blog/page from time to time, I can never have enough of these showbiz type gossips about boxers' lives.
DAMN!!!......SO %#^#^# OUTA HERE.....HE LOST HIS BALLS WHEN HE GOT MARRIED TO A &@*#@#@( MAN FOR A WIFE?!?!?!? THE #%@^$&%*#@&*$&!@#$$^%*!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This BOY BIT THE HAND THE FEED HIM!!!!
I hope Donaire Sr. Had good intention in mind prior to letting this lion out of his chest. I hope he was just trying to start a dialogue to patch things up rather than maligning his son's reputation. To Jr's defense, he has held his tongue which is fitting for a son and is only guilty of not laying down the groundworks towards reconciliation. The first punch has officially been thrown by Sr, even if it was possibly well meant. Now let's hope Jr turns the other cheek by ending this Cold War and let us the media stay out of it for words from a third party may be missunderstood and only add fuel to a fire that may never be quenched and only hurt both their careers. Let's pray for them.
AS FAR AS KNOW, PROBLEM WITH SR AND JR DATES BACK WAY BEFORE
RACHEL. SR MAKING HER A ESCAPE GOAT WITH HIS PROBLEM WITH HIS SON.
KARMA IS A BITCH DONAIRE SR....YOUR FIGHTERS YOU COACH WILL CONTINUE TO LOOSE BECAUSE GOD KNOWS WHAT IS TRUTH.....
BE HONEST NOW, PEOPLE U REALLY THINK THIS PERSON DONAIRE JR
IS THAT BAD? how can rachel really create such damage.
HEY MR DONAIRE SR FIX YOUR OWN PROBLEM .....YOUR OWN FAMILY PROBLEM DON'T NEED TO DESTROY YOUR OWN SON WITH YOUR
CRY BABY ATTITUDE CRYING TO THE PUBLIC FOR YOUR SELF PITY...
YOU REALLY THINK THIS IS GONNA FIX YOUR OWN PROBLEM
i agree you cjay, i doubted donaire sr's credibility as a trainor and a handler, and before i agree to his statement on Dennis, i wanna hear the side of nonito jr 1st, it's hurt when someone on your family talks negatively about you on other person 1st instead of trying to keep it as a family matters
upon hearing Sr.'s interview, nonito donaire's wife and family is i think beginning to see a $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ sign from their eyes, we cannot deny that nonito Jr. is very talented and very good and he may be the next filipino superstar after pacquiao and he may also earn a lot of $$$$$$ dollars and Peso along the way and nonito's wife is forseeing all of that and he doesn't want nonitos father and family to have a piece of that earnings.. what a GOLD DIGGER SELFISH BITCH
PARA KAY NONITO WAG KANG TANGA AT BULAG "LUMINGON KA SA PINANGGALINGAN MO" GUMAYA KA KAY PACQUIAO MAY RESPETO AT HALAGA ANG PAMILYA.
Nonito Jr. will go down in boxing history very, very soon.... he could not be compared to pacquiao.... manny is really a good man, generous to his family and in-laws, and to other people. nonito jr. is an ungrateful man.... love your family and you will go a long way... abandon your family and the One above will also abandon you.... your success will not lasts long and your wife will leave you coz you have no more money for her and for her family to dig.... shame on you nonito jr.
YOU DID A GOOD THING GETTING SR. SIDE OF THE STORY. LET'S BE REALISTIC, WHAT HAS DONAIRE SR. HAVE TO LOSE BY THIS INTERVIEW. WHY WOULD HE LIE. WITHIN THE PAST 2 YEARS RACHEL HAS PUT HERSELF IN FRONT OF NONITO'S LIMELIGHT & USED NONITO'S CAREER TO BENEFIT HERSELF. I BELIEVE DONAIRE SR. IS TELLING THE TRUTH.
fyi, nonito & rachel publicly displayed their family matters after the mthalane fight.
please come to my family's defense, let's bash nonito's family instead!
i feel for senior. the old man really is disappointed. its not easy if your flesh and blood turns his/her back on you. i don't really know what the real score is but as i have observed overe the years, its always the women who screws things up, especially with boxers. think robin givens, EFFED mike tyson's head harder than a buster douglas uppercut, think Jin mosley, EFFED sugar shane's life and squeezed everything she can from the poor chap. now, in the Philippines, they have good old rachel marcial donaire. tsk. well, if junior is happy, that's his choice. if its true, then i feel sorry for his parents, especially his mom... geez, and filipinos usually have a solid family structure. the irony.
it is really sad for the family. sometimes things like that happen in the family. i hope they can patch things up and hope nonito to bring more honors to the country but i sympathize with nonito sr.
of course his wife rachel is the reason. she saw the $$$. why else would she marry donaire right away? why else is the marcial family always in the front row of nonito's fights & none of his family members there. why else is his relationship with his brother glen (who he was close to) estranged? rachel didn't want any of the donaire family members in the picture because it was an opportunity for her to dominate donaire's career.
MR.D,ME THINKS THIS ISSUE HAS TO BE SETTLED BETWEEN THE TWO WARRING TRIBES!! THIS IS A FAMILY SPAT AND I BELIEVE THIS KIND OF ISSUE SHOULDN'T BE PUBLISHED IN THIS PAGE AT ALL!! BUT NOW I BELIEVE THE SAYING:WHEN SOMEONE GETS HITCHED ONE FOOT IS ALREADY IN HELL WAITING FOR THE REMAINING FOOT TO JOIN!! COME ON GUYS,LETS TALK ABOUT BOXING AND WINNING AND NOT OF MARITAL ISSUES!! O.K.???
It will always be a he said, they said kind of thing. There will always be ommissions if not white lies along those lines. The truth may not even be in between what all have been said.
To Sr., much as I want to feel sympathy for you, I get a feeling that you are OBLIGATING Jr. to provide for your family. Well, that should not be the case. Jr. has his own family now and while he's in a profession that may not last long, he needs to save as much money for his and his family's future. And that may not and should not include you. He will give when he feels like giving and not because he SHOULD. There's the fine line. A son, especially a bull headed one, will always turn south when obligated to do something which he does by heart and he doesn't even get recognized for it. Much worse, maybe even the mother or father labeled him ingrate and does not provide when all the while he does. It's really infuriating. Think about that SR.
IF THE JR'S LADY IS A REAL PUSHY MISSUS THEN JR. MUST THINK WELL BEFORE THE PREDICAMENT AFFECTS HIS BOXING CAREER!! WIVES CAN BE REPLACED WITH BETTER ONES Y NO CON CARA DE DINERO EH!! PARENTS??? NO LO CREO!! ES MUY IMPOSIBLE SENIORES!!NO ES????
Nonito Jr...ur so very good fighter..i really like u among all..ur d # 1..only # 2 manny for me...please..they parents..what ever we do, they are your parents...I asked u..please settle with them.. ikaw na lng mag una anha s ila og mangayo pasensya..maapektuhan ang carrer nimo ana....huna hunaa pag ayo..pwede ta mangitag daghan asawa..pro ginikanan usa ra jud na..adto na s ilaha h?
huwag nyo namang pasamain si nonito jr. maawa naman kayo, magaling pa naman.
si rachel nlang @ yung pamilya nya ang birahin nyo ng birahin. ;D
THIS IS A SIMPLE FAMILY PROBLEM NONITO JUST LEAVE THIS PROBLEM AND FOCUS IN HIS CAREER..FLOYD SR. AND FLOYD JR. ALSO HAS A FALLING OUT....
This is pathetic! Sr should keep the issue in private. He should have sacrifice and cover Jr by keeping his emo shut.
To me, this is just embarrassing.
My piece of advise to Jr is NOT to respond to any these...
The the public might buy well the issue and could do more harm than restoring broken relationships.
KEEP your issue private!
give this one a benefit of a doubt..we do not know who is telling the truth..problema sainyu ag dali niyung maniwala kagad! talon kagad kayu sa conclusion..
this was my topic when i once commented on ur article about him.i really criticized him 4 turning his back on his family after all the sacrifices they did to make him a champion.i was fuming when i read the story that they visited gorres and gave him 350k out of his earnings.i will tell u that even if he donates everything he has earned after every fight and whatever he and wife do 4 any charity works, he is still ingrate for not fixing the problem with his family.he lost the very values that the filipino heritage requires of him.whatever he does it will only betrays and mocks his person as long as he ignores the source of his life.if u really are a good friend of jr. better remind her of the things he should do to mend the broken relationship coz at the end of the day parents and siblings will be by his side to the end that nobody even wife with rachel's status and personality can not by all means match believe me or not.any child who despises his parents won't be blessed.wake up jr.
E2 ANG PINAKAMALAKING DIPERENSYA NI MANNY KAY NONITO., SI MANNY LAHAT NG TAONG KAKILALA NYA SA KANYANG PINANGGALINGAN TINULUNGAN NYA., KAHIT NA TATAY NYA NA HUMIWALAY SA KANILA E BINIGYAN NYA PA NG BAHAY., YAN ANG MAHIRAP PAG BABAE ANG NAGPAPATAKBO NG BUHAY MO. LALO NA KUNG MAY PAGKA GOLD DIGGER., DAPAT MARUNONG KANG MAGISIP GAYA NI MANNY.. YOU GOT A LONG WAY TO GO NONITO JR
fans love a certain athlete not only because of his skills but also because of his personality. what kind of person he is, what does he do, because in a way we like ourselves to be that person. why so many people hate floyd jr? it is because of his attitude and I am pretty sure that includes his falling out with sr. if you can turn your back to your mom and your family in general, you can turn your back to anybody. that is a brutal fact.
At woonero... don't blame D'Source for publishing this. You're right it should be between them but it was Senior Donaire who called Dennis. so why would blame him? I agree with you, it is family issue but if your the father would you dare to see your wife - Nonito's mother - being humiliated by your daughter-in-law? Let's see different scenario, if you are Nonito Jr, what would you think your mother feel when you're not even talking to her? Just imagine 9 months inside her womb.
WHAT KIND OF FATHER DESTROYS HIS SON?
BUT OF COURSE THE FATHER ALREADY HAVE ANOTHER MISTRESS WITH CHILD IN CEBU..
I bet the poster "Concerened" is really his gold-digging bitch wife Rachel. GUARANTEE!!!!!!!!!
BEHIND MAN'S SUCCESS AND FAILURE IS A WOMAN! ....
I bet the poster "familt matters" is really his gold-digging bitch wife Rachel too. GUARANTEE!!!!!!!!!
Jose Rizal once said, "Whether my parents are wrong, they are right." It merely means...RESPECT THEM.
Sr. shared these feelings with me months ago, but did not want me to put it out there on my blog. After Nonito's loss to Robert Salinas' fighter, Sr. called me to see if the boys could fight in Monterey. I made fights for the brothers and they were incredible hits at RIOT AT THE HYATT. One happy family then. I completely believe Sr. when he blames Rachel for the split. Jr., though still a great kid who I admire, is allowing his family to be hurt...something unimaginable when he started his career. They were the ultimate family team. Jr's, manager Cameron Duncan is in an impossible situation, but I knows if he rocks the boat and actually manages Nonito on a personal level, he might lose him professionally. The other local World Champions Andre Ward and Robert Guerrero are the ultimate loyal family men and I'm surprised that having groomed Jr. to be a devout Christian, they havn't sat down with him to share the true meaning of being "faithful" and honoring mother and father.
I have followed many Filipino fighters over the years and have admired their tenacity and heart. But what I admired most is their relationship with God and Family. Hearing this, is very painful as I am also a father and a husband and I would never let anybody treat my wife that way. Even if he is my son. I guess the saying "For every man's downfall, is a woman behind". Now we see who Nonito, Jr really is, he just gives to charity "for show". I'm terribly turned off.
THIS IS PRIVATE FAMILY MATTER, AND SHOULD REMAIN AS SUCH...TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE PUTTING THEIR OPINIONS IN SOMETHING ONLY SR AND JR KNOW THE TRUTH....OH OF COURSE GOD...WHY DO U BLAME THE WIFE
JR IS 27 YEARS OLD...I THNK HE COULD THINK FOR HIMSELF NOW.....
I am on Sr. side. Rachel is a gold digger. She wanted to be in the spotlight... pathetic. Sr. always wanted what's best for his son. Rachel wanted what is best for her.
Sabi ko na eh. Una ko pa lang nakita yang asawa nyan iba na dating eh. Akala mo kung sino kung umasta. Buti na lang nagsalita itong si Mang Nonito at nalaman natin ang tunay na kulay. Pakitang tao lang pala ang pagtulong nito upang mapalapit at maparami ang fans. Ganoo kaya kasarap chumupa iyang si Rachel at hindi matanggihan ni Nonito. Anyway, dapat hindi tayo magpa-uto dito sa dalawang ito. Iboycott si Nonito, Jr at duraan natin ang asawa nya pag nakita natin sa kalsada. To Mr. D'Source. I hope you show all these responses to Nonito, Jr. at sabihin mo sa kanya, puking-ina kamo ng asawa nya!
Now I think this is really personal. If you're the son, you need to talk to your father man to man at the same time protect your family from being broken.
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WHAT KIND OF FATHER DESTROYS HIS SON?
BUT OF COURSE THE FATHER ALREADY HAVE ANOTHER MISTRESS WITH CHILD IN CEBU..
of course rachel is commenting in their defense. she's got nothin else better to do. she got no career other than living through nonito's career. think real hard about this one folks!!!!!!!!!!!
I BLAMED IT TO YOUR GOLD-DIGGER "BITCH" WIFEY....MATUTO KA SANANG TUMANAW NG UTANG NA LOOB SAS MGA MAGULANG NA SYANG NAG-ALAGA AT NAG-PALAKI SAYO.!!!!!!! GUMISING KA! AT TANAWIN MO KUNG SAAN KA NANGAGALING!!!! MARAMI KA PANG BIGAS NA KAKAININ BAGO MO MALAGPASAN ANG KASIKATAN NI MANNY PACQUIAO...
WAG KANG LUMIPAD NG PAGKATAAS-TAAS DAHIL BALDADO KA KAPAG IKAW BUMAGSAK!!!!!
I will refrain from giving opinions or views on. This is serious family matter and it is only them who can solve whatever it is. Whatever we say is not going to solve their problem so I think we need to stop and look the mirror before for ourself to see who we are.
Woo Woo to Woonero, I agree...D should let Dr. Phil take care of their issues.....clearly it's embarassing for both party....I also agree on your second post lol...you only have one parents and you can never ever replace them, but a women...you can have plenty of them!!!!
Then I know what is the reason why sonsona loss.. Because of his trainer Nonito Sr. his emotionaly hurt he cant focus because of his son relationship are broked.. This is painful for Nonito Sr.and for his family.. I cant believe this.. I hope they can fix this.. And for me Nonito Jr. is the one who can fix this problem.
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