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What can we expect during the Obama administration on UFOs and extraterrestrial life?


Reagan Library: Reagan during '83 Grenada invasion

Part II of a series of investigative articles on the Obama administration, the United Nations, and unidentified flying objects (UFOs) and extraterrestrial life

As we covered in Part I, U.N. General Assembly Decision 33/426, 1978 concerns the "establishment of an agency or a department of the United Nations for undertaking, co-coordinating and disseminating the results of research into unidentified flying objects (UFOs) and related phenomena."

This U.N. Decision is one of the first formal and explicit expressions about extraterrestrial life and unidentified flying objects (UFOs) on record in international law.

In it, the U.N. General Assembly (UNGA) envisions establishing a system whereby the 192 individual U.N. member nations, such as the U.S. or Brazil, can coordinate their own national systems of research and investigation into unidentified flying objects (UFOs) and extraterrestrial life.  Each nation can then report its own research and findings to the U.N. Secretary General, and eventually to a U.N. agency on extraterrestrial affairs that would be established as a planetary resource, operating under international law.

In diplomatic language, UNGA Decision 33/426 functions as a “confidence building measure,” allowing U.N. member nations like the U.S. which have maintained a public embargo on its secret files on unidentified flying objects (UFOs) and extraterrestrial life to feel more secure in making these files public, by doing so in coordination with adopted public policy by its allies and U.N. member nations.

In an ideal world, a U.N. agency on extraterrestrial affairs can coordinate research and public policy about unidentified flying objects (UFOs) and extraterrestrial life at a planetary level – presumably the level at which extraterrestrial civilizations themselves might openly approach human civilization.

The United States, extraterrestrial life and international law

Whether the United States will acknowledge that is it bound by international law in matters of relations with extraterrestrial life and UFOs remains to be seen.

In fact, the United States historical record on adherence to international law regarding UFOs and extraterrestrial life is dismal, starting with its covert and dirty-trick-filled opposition to the original adoption of U.N. General Assembly Decision 33/426 in Dec. 1978.  

Sir Eric M. Gairy, Prime Minister of Grenada, who proposed UNGA Decision 33/426, was subsequently deposed by a U.S. CIA-sponsored coup in Grenada, while Gairy was meeting in New York City with U.N. Secretary General Kurt Waldheim about the implementaiton of UNGA Decision 33/426.  Some research even states that the 1983 U.S. illegal invasion of Grenada during the Reagan administration was in fact a cover operation to retrieve the body of an extraterrestrial that Gairy had in vitro for scientific examination at the Grenada medical school.

UFOs & extraterrestrial high drama at the 2009 U.N. General Assembly?

If Barack Obama as U.S. President were to order disclosure of secret U.S. extraterrestrial and UFO files, to whom would he disclose these and in what context?

The most responsible, visionary, and planetary-oriented release of U.S. secret UFO and extraterrestrial life documents by Obama could well be to the United Nations, in a public fulfillment of the intent of UNGA Decision 33/426.

President Barack Obama, Secretary Hillary Clinton, and Miguel D’Escoto Brockmann, the former Sandinista foreign minister of Nicaragua (1979-90), who is the President of the 63rd U.N. General Assembly could well converge in high drama at the U.N. General Assembly around the issue of release of U.S. secret files on unidentified flying objects (UFOs) and extraterrestrial life. 

President Brockmann is no stranger to difficult international law battles with the United States, and is a "veteran statesman, politician, community leader and priest, Father d’Escoto served for over a decade as the Republic of Nicaragua’s Minister for Foreign Affairs, a post he held from July 1979 until April 1990. During his tenure, he played a key role in the Contadora and Esquipulas peace processes to end internal armed conflicts in Central America in the 1980s. Also at that time, he spearheaded his Government’s decision, in 1984, to bring to the International Court of Justice a claim against the United States for supporting military and paramilitary actions against his country, with the Court subsequently ruling in favour of Nicaragua."

This reporter recently spoke with the Ambassador Norman Miranda, President Brockman's Chief of Cabinet regarding implementation of U.N. General Assembly Decision.  In conversation, Dr. Miranda stated that President Brockmann's office would be very willing to go forward with the implementation of UNGA Decision 33/426 if a member nation such as the United States were to begin to cooperate formally with the U.N. Decision, sponsor a new resolution for its implementation, and begin releasing its files as a role model to the world.

What are Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton waiting for?

The U.S. and its allies are not the only stakeholders at the United Nations on the issue of unidentified flying objects (UFOs) and extraterrestrial life.  There are reports that U.S. Naval Intelligence and other intelligence agencies may be undertaking a clandestine, activist, and chilling role at the U.N. on unidentified flying objects (UFOs) and extraterrestrial life which could bring them in direct collision with the transparency policy of Obama administration itself, and with the growing unaligned block of nations exemplified by UNGA President Miguel D’Escoto Brockman.

There are other important stakeholders in the mix.  One key stakeholder is the people – the human community in each of the 192 member nations of the U.N.  Public opinion polls like the 2002 Roper poll show that public opinion may be have more progressive attitudes towards unidentified flying objects (UFOs) and extraterrestrial life than do the governments and officials which represent them at the United Nations.

Some respectable branches of political analysis sees the United Nations Security Council, for example, as an institution now infiltrated by a long term strategic plan for establishing a global police state known as “friendly fascism.”  From this view, the issues of unidentified flying objects (UFOs) and extraterrestrial life could be manipulated by major powers of the United Nations, such as the United States, the U.K., France, and others, to usher in such a new world order.  

Other key stakeholders are the possible extraterrestrial civilizations themselves. Whom do the extraterrestrials want to deal with when it comes to open public interest diplomacy? The answer may depend on which extraterrestrials we are referring to.  

There are reported extraterrestrials that may have entered into secret technology transfer and genetic farming (abduction) agreements with the

U.S. government in the early 1950s.  There are other extraterrestrial civilizations that have reportedly shut down U.S. nuclear missile silos, and shadowed U.S. Air Force planes carrying nuclear warheads for recycling from U.S. military overseas bases.

And to make the issues more complex, there is evidence that some unidentified flying objects (UFOs), such as the March 13, 1997 Phoenix Lights, may be extraterrestrial in origin, and other unidentified flying objects (UFOs) may be what are termed “alien reproduction vehicles (ARVs)”, retro-engineered from downed or loaned extraterrestrial craft by military-intelligence black budget units.

The existence of alien reproduction craft and associated advanced information technology for replicating “a virtual alien invasion” and the potential of “Treaty” extraterrestrials under some sort of extra-constitutional agreements with the U.S. government is a significant danger for any future “extraterrestrial disclosure” by the U.S.

As we shall see, an “alien false flag invasion” is a potential threat to planetary civil liberties, that could be manipulated by major U.N. powers to usher in a new era eradicating domestic civil liberties, and human rights as expressed in the U.N. Declaration of Human Rights.

We now learn that a senior Obama White House official, John Brennan, Deputy National Security Adviser for Homeland Security,  in a September 30, 1993 memorandum entitled “Requested Information on UFOs" for Richard Warshaw, Executive Assistant to the Clinton administration Director of Central Intelligence, "found almost no documentation on Agency involvement with UFOs in the 1980s."  This is prima facie evidence that Obama administration may be controlled or infiltrated by perpetrators of the UFO and extraterrestrial disinformation cover-up.

What can we expect during the Obama administration?

♣    Transparent disclosure of unidentified flying objects (UFOs) and extraterrestrial life?
♣    An “alien false flag invasion,” carried out by black budget military-intelligence units in the same way that the reported False Flag attack of September 11, 2001 was carried out?
♣    Extraterrestrial disclosure carried out by informed citizens groups and experts in official public venues and on the media throughout the earth?  The end of earth's planetary quarantine from a universe society of intelligent civilizations?

To be continued in Part III of this series of investigative reports on the Obama administration, the United Nations, and unidentified flying objects (UFOs) and extraterrestrial life

 

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  • bpg131313 3 years ago
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    I think there's a lot that could happen, though I seriously doubt NASA would want anything to happen. They have hundreds of millions invested in finding life on other planets and if an alien drops out of the sky and lands in Central Park to walk out the front door of the craft waving to the people, they'd be very upset. Of course, presentation is key in how to make this happen. If the aliens know us at all, the key is to be funny when they first show up. Wear a t-shirt that says, "Sh!t Happens", would be an effective way of making people laugh rather than grab their rifles.

    As far as a false flag operation pinning it on aliens, you're assuming that the aliens would let something like that go down in the first place. If they are out there watching everything we do, then they are far more advanced than we are, and wouldn't allow themselves to be slighted like that. If anything, I'd love to see a potential false flag operation happen and have it defeated by the actual aliens, effectively putting these black programs in their respective places.

    I honestly hope for disclosure. I think the world is ready for it. I think we're looking for that next great thing, and if we can get that from other civilizations that come out of the sky and help us fix everything we've managed to screw up, I see that as a benefit.

  • Michael Horn 3 years ago
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    As the U.S. representative for the only scientifically proven, still ongoing UFO contact case, allow me to say that this political/"exopolitical" silliness just demonstrates why we're stuck regarding this issue. The whole focus on bureaucratic protocols and "political" procedures, as well as this nonsensical talk about "relations with extraterrestrials", is a distraction that perfectly lends itself to abuse, disinformation and manipulation.

    We don't have any relations with extraterrestrials. they aren't walking around, working for any governments, hiding out in Area 51, etc. nor are they in contact with anyone...with one exception. As a matter of fact, just reading this article, liberally infused with all sorts of official sounding names and terms, is in itself, a perfect example of the form over substance machinations of those members of the so-called "UFO community" who fancy themselves to be not only extremely knowledgeable but actually qualified to pontificate on these matters.

    Take this gem, "Whom do the extraterrestrials want to deal with when it comes to open public interest diplomacy?" which posits a couple of daffy notions. First, they've already answered that question by maintaining contacts with one man...for the last 67 years. Secondly, it's any form of "diplomacy" - a fancy human word for "lying" - that they have specifically eschewed...and warned us against perpetuating. Since when was telling the straight, simple truth so difficult? Rhetorical, of course, it's human history and while our author here is concerned about official obfuscation, he wants to perpetuate it through..."diplomacy".

    And do we even need to point out that spreading unsubstantiated tales about "extraterrestrials that may have entered into secret technology transfer and genetic farming (abduction) agreements with the U.S. government in the early 1950s, etc." is just more of the conspiratorial, tail-chasing disinformation and distraction that we're supposedly trying to get rid of?

    Now, all of that being said, of course uncovering the truth about the UFO phenomenon - and the REASONS behind it - are very worthy goals. But since the Meier contacts are not only still ongoing in Switzerland but the INFORMATION they've been providing to Meier - for nearly 70 years - is being corroborated again and again, such as Meier scooping NASA - by 32 years! - regarding the discoveries of water, hostile environment and life on Mars by 32 years. Please note what I have said and check it, for free, nothing to buy or believe.

    How's about the earthquake in China now being tied to a huge dam there? Well, Meier published warnings about that, and other causes for the still coming mega-quakes, in 1951 and 1976, as well as more recently. Again, go check it out. And check out the warning about a mega-quake and tsunami that will hit off the coast of Oregon...as well as numerous other, and some still possibly avoidable, events.

    Now, there will be plenty of (usually anonymous, always unqualified) people who will trot out the old noise about a Meier "hoax" and, naturally, be completely unable to substantiate it. But what's important is that each interested person determine - for themselves - whether the Meier contacts are the biggest, most impenetrable hoax, or the most important story in human history. There's really nothing in between.

    And maybe, just maybe, the good folks at "exopolitics" might like to be among the first to investigate and publicly declare their position on it, for what it's worth.

  • Jaime 3 years ago
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    Excuse me, but, under the section above labeled: The United States, extraterrestrial life and international law, and the first sentence of that section, HOW can it be possible that the United States compliance to this particular "LAW" even BE Optional?

  • Patrick Sullivan 3 years ago
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    How can our nuclear war fighting elite break the news to you all that the ET are not only real, but that the ET had contacted government officials even before the first nuclear weapon exploded.

    In 1944 Our newly minted nuclear war criminal wannabees chose to use nuclear weapons on humanity. They refused to seek a new world order, one of Peace. Nothing has changed since then, they still want to blow us all away using the vast arsenal of nuclear weapons at their disposal, as a way of telling us what they really think about us.

    At this very moment there is an ongoing plot to trigger a nuclear weapon in America, and use that as a pretext to continue on with a state of perpetual war.

    The nuclear trigger was pulled on us long ago; we reside now as the Living Dead.

    Thankfully, the advanced civilizations that have intervened have taken away the 'trigger' from our nuclear war fighting elite, and are allowing us the time to de-nuclearize our world.

    We need to get real serious about shutting down the nuclear war machine while we still have the chance.

    The prisons need to be shut down also, and a guaranteed world wide basic income installed to allow Peace to happen.

    The laws of our prison camp building predator class are ended. They're done. When the decision was made in 1946 to put the nuclear torch to the mass of the human race, their time also ended.

    Rather than talking about diplomatic relations and who should they speak to, it may better to first place our nuclear war fighting elite in front of juries and if they are determined to be 'criminally insane,' then place them into institutions that will care for them in a humane manner. When that is done, diplomatic relations with the ET could begin with all humanity.

    The driving force behind the continuing attempts to set the world on fire may be only a relatively small number of nuclear-armed criminally insane people. Possibly as few as 1700 people placed into humane institutional care, and the human race will be out from under the shadow of nuclear destruction.

    It is for sure we can do it, because after all, we are the Living Dead.

  • Michael Horn 3 years ago
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    No, there will be no intervention in our affairs by ETs UNLESS we are on the verge of actually blowing the planet apart.

    This is another problem with the UFO community, they think in a very...religious way; somebody "up there" is going to protect us from ourselves, our own mistakes, etc.

    Not going to happen. If you knew more about the true history of humans in the universe, the actual comings and goings on this planet from countless millennia, this escapist stuff wouldn't be discussed.

    We are responsible for what goes on here, period.

  • James Black 3 years ago
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    First, let us clarify a concept. The UFO people is not in Exopolitics.
    UFO people tries to solve the big UFO enigma: who or what is behind the Unidentified Flying Objects.
    Exopoliticians say, for example that the Irak Invasion was motivated for the need to control an Alien Stargate in that country. (see Dr. Salla paper concerning this).
    Alfred Webre writes above that "Some research even states that the 1983 U.S. illegal invasion of Granada during the Reagan administration was in fact a cover operation to retrieve the body of an extraterrestrial that Sir Eric M. Gairy, Prime Minister of Granada, had in vitro for scientific examination at the Granada medical school."
    This two examples show clearly that the mission of Exopolitics is the transformation of Human History into Science-fiction.
    We agree with some of the critics posted by Michael Horn. He writes: "this nonsensical talk about "relations with extraterrestrials", is a distraction that perfectly lends itself to abuse, disinformation and manipulation."

    "We don't have any relations with extraterrestrials. they aren't walking around, working for any governments, hiding out in Area 51, etc. nor are they in contact with anyone...with one exception. As a matter of fact, just reading this article, liberally infused with all sorts of official sounding names and terms, is in itself, a perfect example of the form over substance machinations of those members of the so-called "UFO community" who fancy themselves to be not only extremely knowledgeable but actually qualified to pontificate on these matters."
    However, if we must believe Horn that the exception is the "contactee" Maier, then we are forced to think that the "extraterrestrials" are wasting their time, even if they have a lot of time to waste.
    In other words each one of the Exopoliticians, Gurus and contactees have his/her own extraterrestrial mythology.
    What they don't have is EVIDENCES.
    We can expect, perhaps that in some moment, this or any other Administration will (again) recognize that 90 % of UFO sightings have a natural origin. The rest 10 % remain UNIDENTIFIED, but these UFO are not considered a security threat.
    Of course, the Obama Administration must solve thousands of very human problems before talking of UFOs.

  • William Loudermilk 3 years ago
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    Mr. Webre:

    Although I was only 12 at the time, I do not remember President Reagan illegally invading Spain. What respect should you be given if you cannot even know the difference between the island nation of GrEnada versus Granada: a city is Spain (and also Nicaragua). Should someone who does not even understand geography of this planet be able to comment of UFO/ET disclosure? Keep searching for intelligent life somewhere outside yourself, you won't find it looking in a mirror.

  • Rod 3 years ago
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    Michael Horn is scared of The Paracast and he is a phoney. Meier is a fraud. Period.

  • EyesWideOpen 3 years ago
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    Google "Project Bluebeam", sources on YouTube

  • Lawrence 3 years ago
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    Let'em denye all they want. when "They" come down inmass [ now to 2012] I'm gonna sit back sippin a glass of iced tea and Laffin Laffin Laffin...etc.

  • JB4040 3 years ago
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    Read the Allies of Humanity Briefings. Forget about govt. disclosure. We need to push for a planetary proclamation that all ETs on or near Earth must leave immediately and respect our rights as the native species of this planet. ET intervention is happening and it is NOT for our benefit.

  • Michael Horn 3 years ago
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    James, I appreciate your comments. Let me clarify this point, however, as most people ar esimply unaware of the following facts:

    Meier took his first series of UFO photos in India...in 1964

    He has presented over 1,200 clear, daytime and night time UFO photos of up to 8 crat in a frame

    He has presented 8 daylight, UFO films and one video

    He has presented four separate sound recordings of the ships

    He has presented metal samples that were analyzed by MULTIPLE parties

    He has presented over 24,000 pages of information, and abundant amount of specific, scientific and world event related information (such as is freely available from my site)

    To date, all of his physical evidence remains irreproducible

    ALL skeptical challenges have been defeated

    The truthfulness of the above claims can be determined for oneself, it simply requires a bit of research, logic and clear thinking.

    IF what I say is true, one may begin to understand for themselves what a colossal waste of time all this blathering on about "lights in the sky" and non-existent "aliens among us" is. The degree to which people - who claim to be interested in the possibility of extraterrestrial life - simply gloss over this case, which is STILL ONGOING for more than 67 years, will tell you a good deal about the level of intelligence here on earth.

    I've studied it for 30 years, been to Switzerland 10 times in 9 years, have met Meier and many of the other principals (5 other photographers) and can tell you that hte skeptics are simply...clueless.

    I hope the rest of you are not.

  • thomasT 3 years ago
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    As a retired airline training Captain with multiple IFO sightings,a visit to Billy Meier and studying his works, I agree with the 6 investigators who spent 5 years on and off with Billy, trying to debunk him, but ending up confirming his over 130 then contacts. They published Light Years, by Gary Kinder, describibg their inestigation. Rod screaming fraud, period, maybe a govt shill or an ostrich with his head buried, so please explain the fraud.

  • stormwolf 3 years ago
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    experiences with our Et brothers and Sisters are personal do not waist time telling ignorant officials and stupid machanical minded phycologist and scientist the wonder experienced with these beings they will only riddicule or even put you in prison they are not worth one second of your time

  • es 355 gibson 3 years ago
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    Appreciate M.Horn's take on this matter. He is well informed and provides facts, that's what we need.

    Good person to review on this subject

  • James Black 3 years ago
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    Let's suppose that someone wants the government to KEEP the UFO secret.
    If he is intelligent enough, and if he knows well the methodology of disinformation, (decoy, foggy talk, anonymous sources,etc.)He will write this:
    <What can we expect during the Obama administration?

    ? Transparent disclosure of unidentified flying objects (UFOs) and extraterrestrial life?
    ? An “alien false flag invasion,” carried out by black budget military-intelligence units in the same way that the reported False Flag attack of September 11, 2001 was carried out?
    ? Extraterrestrial disclosure carried out by informed citizens groups and experts in official public venues and on the media throughout the earth? The end of earth's planetary quarantine from a universe society of intelligent civilizations?>

    This done, he can be sure that this Administration will remain silent. UFO secrets are safe.

  • Ilya Stavinsky 3 years ago
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    If anybody wants to see UFO in the night
    sky as I described in my article
    "Aleins live in our Earth's atmosphere"
    please contact me to arrange meeting. It is better to see UFO with your own eyes and after that to make your own judgement. I am retired and do this just to spread knowledge about UFO's existence for free.
    Sincerely
    Ilya

  • Ilya Stavinsky 3 years ago
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    Michael Horn:
    I understand that you are a big admire of Meir, and that is Ok with me. But I found some contradiction between your statement and your behavior. You said:
    "I've studied it for 30 years, been to Switzerland 10 times in 9 years, have met Meier and many of the other principals (5 other photographers) and can tell you that hte skeptics are simply...clueless."
    Another words, you visited Switzerland 10 times in 9 years in order to see just UFO documentaion of Meir and other principals, but you are not interested to see real UFOs in NJ, which is much much closer than Euroupe. Can you explain that ?
    Sincerely
    Ilya

  • Michael Horn 3 years ago
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    Hi Ilya, Yes, I can explain that.

    I have no need to go to NJ, or Switzerland for that matter, to see UFOs. I've seen UFOs in Arizona, Hawaii and California and, in addition to most UFO sightings probably being of terrestrial, secret military origin, they are the LEAST important aspect of the case.

    If we have been visited by ETS in UFOs there's obviously a REASON for it and that reason ISN'T to provide entertainment for us in the skies.

    The reason is contained in the 24,000+ pages of information, much of it provided by the ETs and published by Meier. The UFO element, interesting as it may be, is at this point a distraction, it isn't the essence of the matter.

    When you read all of the material, freely posted at my site and others, you will see what the government and other parties REALLY don't want you to know.

    All of this chasing after UFOs and imaginary ETs supposedly lurking in every corner of the planet, abducting people, etc. is nonsense to keep people DISTRACTED from our real - self-created - problems.

    And you can be sure that NO ETs are coming to save us, give us more technology, etc.
    Our future survival is strictly...up to us.

  • Anonymous 3 years ago
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    Michael Horn has an interesting eccentric brain. Dont forget to listen to Exopolitics radio with Alfred Webre, tonight, uploaded after 8 mountain time.

  • Ilya Stavinsky 3 years ago
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    Hi Michael,
    First of all thanks for responding to my question.
    When I write or talk about UFO I mean AFO - Aliens Flying Object or Aliens's spacecraft or ETS.
    By the way I never write books or articles if I am not sure 120%. The same applies to my article
    about ETS or AFO. I have more than enough education to make the difference between UFO and ETS
    (see my articles about Einstein's special theory of relativity and etc.. on my web page).

    I thought that word UFO will not bring any confusion in my descriptions of ETS and it did.
    What I see in the sky 24/7 every day is not weather phenomena, balloon or military project.
    If you have read my article "Aliens live in our Earth's atmosphere" and saw my drawings of Aliens
    spacecrafts, you will understand at once that we deal with extraterrestrial beings. In addition to that I have every day visual contact with them. Normally they stay in one place in the sky, but as soon as I look at AFO it starts to move in my direction with the accelerated speed from 0 to 100 miles an more per second,no matter how far it is located from me, but if I wave my hand to them they begin to zigzag in my direction and stop right over my head.

    Another words they communicate with me by using so called "body language"(zigzag movement), that they happy to see me again, like a dog wiggle his tail to show that he is happy.
    Sometimes when I look at AFOs, they by their movement describe in the sky letter S, the first letter
    of my Last name, from here follows that they can read my mind at such distance or intercept my communications on internet.

    I know that what I discovered in my article is beyond human's imagination, that is why I offer people my assistance to locate AFOs in the sky first time, after that everyone can spot them without my help.
    I think I gave you a good REASON.

    Sincerely
    Ilya

    P.S I read many articles on internet to see what people know about them, because I don't like to write about
    subject if people already familliar with.

  • Dan Tanner 3 years ago
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    So, Michael ... you're saying it is our fault? No influence from aliens. Yah right! Between you and that other guy ... selectively skewing the Mier story ... saying this part is true and that part is not. Mier I believe ... but you (if you really are Michael Horn?) ... are less convincing. The aliens picked Mier for a reason (integrity) ... you my friend are self appointed ... no one picked you as a beacon of truth as they did Mier (besides your handlers).

    All our fault. Sounds like global warming Gore rhetoric.

    Thousands of years of alien encounters are hiden/barried/rewriten from our history ... this means something ... and cannot be discounted (beyond a doubt, some if not all of this evil genius influence is from the outside ... we live in an “open system”).

    "We don't have any relations with extraterrestrials. they aren't walking around, working for any governments, hiding out in Area 51, etc. nor are they in contact with anyone...with one exception" . . . How would you know? WHAT A JOKE! I don’t remember Billy Mier ever saying that.

    What about the "Granada Treaty" with the aliens? What about the "Discloser Project" event with Dr. Steven Greer? What about the "Trinity Tests" followed by the area 51 encounters and so on. What about the Denver airport terminal. The “Men In Black” and “true color” hit teams keep the secrets. I believe that, what's happening is, governments in bed with certain companies around the world are losing there grand hoax option for 2012 and are getting nervous and showing us there hand in all of this (RiK Clay hinted about this and paid the price). It’s all about mind control … they believe us surfs can’t be trusted with big gun tech … for good reason … because if the playing field were ever leveled … evil tech holding tyrants will not be able to hide or survive for that mater. Give me their big gun tech and I’ll show you what I’m talking about.

    Nearly every modern day inventions are reverse engineered UFO stuff. Supposedly Barack Obama is trying to have a "freedom of information" release and is running into a brick wall with the companies that control the stuff. Good luck with that Obama … at some point the military will have to shut down and arrest certain companies responsible (if there are any good guys left, that is).

    There are rotten selfish greedy evil people here on earth that have made deals with these SOB(s) from afar ... believe it!

    Companies apparently holding the secrets to this technology on earth are not letting go ... what company do you work for aka : Micheal Horn? (lurking on potential dis-info topics … the real Micheal Horn please take no offence)

    Keep casting the lead ... someone is fishing. ;-)

  • Michael Horn 3 years ago
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    Hi Dan,

    A couple of responses:

    1. I am authorized by Meier to represent him, thus, not "self-appointed". I do my best to represent his information and views and I also express my own, which I shall be careful to point out as such.

    2. You'll find that Meier preceded Gore re global warming by oner 50 years. And you'll also find some very comprehensive histories of human life in the universe,a s well as its previously unknown histories regarding life here, in the Meier material.

    3. Regarding the "joke", you will indeed find ample information from Meier as to why there are no ETs here. And my own logic and reasoning, which I can always repeat here if you wish, has led me to the same conclusion. Perhaps if you contemplate the matter carefully, you will reach the same conclusions, despite the popular disinformation.

    4. Yes, what about the "Granada Treaty", do you have...proof of its reality?

    5. As far as nearly every modern day invention, etc., this is addressed by what Meier was told, i.e. that humans here are much too quick to attribute every advancement to ETs, despite the fact that we have our own geniuses.

    And, to the best of my knowledge, I am the real Michael Horn, at least as far as this topic goes. I now having a working search engine on my site, please feel free to dig further into the points raised there.

  • Michael Horn 3 years ago
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    P.S. Regarding the "Granada Treaty", has it not occurred to you that any advanced, high-tech, space traveling alien race DOESN'T NEED to make any treaties with our government or any other one to TAKE what it wants? How and why are so many people soooooo gullible about this kind of blatantly illogical, nonsensical...FEAR-PRODUCING DISINFORMATION? Please, read about the origins of the UFO cover-up at my site.

  • T.S. 3 years ago
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    The longer the fight for information,the easier it is to hide or destroy that information.

  • Ilya Stavinsky 3 years ago
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    Hi Dan,
    you quote Michael:
    "We don't have any relations with extraterrestrials. they aren't walking around, working for any governments, hiding out in Area 51, etc. nor are they in contact with anyone...with one exception" . . . How would you know?
    The answer is very simple to that if you follow the logic. Why do extraterrestrials need to contact or keep contact with our government? Do their activities depend on the permission from our government ? Not at all, because they have unimaginable technological power people didn't dream about. They can use this advantage both in peaceful and military purpose if the need will arise. But for them to use high technology as a weapon does not make any sense for several reasons: 1. with our primitive technology we can not do them any harm. Can you imagine that primitive people attack military jet with arrows ?
    2. ETS have reached such technological level that production of means of subsistence for them cost them next to zero. For this reason they have completely different mentality than people on Earth who Struggle for survival (except rich people who Struggle to keep their wealth). The word WEALTH for UTS lost its meaning thousands years ago. If they need something on Earth they can do it without being noticed,
    3. Do ETS work for our government ? Sure not. Ask yourself simple question: Do our government people work for primitive men who live in jungle ? This question does not make sense to me, because what the interest for civilized beings to work for primitive men. That is how we relate to UTS. If UTS want to do some experiments they have more than enough room on their spacecrafts. The size of the later is from 1 to 5-10 miles. They are flying towns.
    Another matter that our government wants to get aliens technology in their hand and they did succeeded not by having contact with UFO but by examining UFOs that crushed on Earth. Aliens never reveal their technology to us, because we did not mature yet to use it only in peaceful purposes.
    Sincerely
    Ilya

  • Ilya Stavinsky 3 years ago
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    Michael Horn,
    you said in your response:"If we have been visited by ETS in UFOs there's obviously a REASON for it and that reason ISN'T to provide entertainment for us in the skies."
    What the reason you are talking about ?
    They live in our Earth's atmosphere for thousands years without bringing any harm to people. To observe AFOs in the sky it is not only entertainment for people it is also original source of our knowledge about Aliens, their technology, their economics and so on.. Once we officially recognize their existence, we have to recognize many other things as the result of this fact.
    1. The existence of free energy that they use to fly between stars.
    2. People can live without wars. (AFOs never attack each other and they never tried to conquer our Earth).
    But those conclusions create conflict of interest for government of developed countries including USA. That is the main reason why governments try to deny ETS existence. There is no need to read 24000 pages to draw to that conclusion.
    Knowing about existence of free energy people will ask statesmen why we don't concentrate our money resources to the research and the development of this free energy instead of depending on oil, nuclear energy and etc. And the answer is no, because this policy will destroy the wealth of those who control the sources of energy: oil, coal, electrical energy and so on. But nobody can stop progress and eventually this will happen: people will learn the secret of free energy. But who knows in what condition our Earth will be at that time.
    The 2-nd conclusion is If AFOs are peaceful and not aggressive it is mean that they don’t have social and economic problems. Another words it is possible for inelegant beings to have friendly society in which there is no inequality from social and economic point of view. And for this reason capitalist society is not the final destination in the development of our society but only transit to more civilized one.
    Sincerely
    Ilya

  • Ilya Stavinsky 3 years ago
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    Addition to my previous msg.
    Introduction of "free energy" into the capitalist society will create another problem for the government. It will create millions of unemployed people who will lose their jobs in sectors producing oil,coal, electricity ect. and in sectors which directly or indirectly connected with them. But in reality all those problems including the reach people who control those branches of productions, can be solved within the frame of the capitalist society. The future form of this capitalist society is called "Social capital"

  • Andy 3 years ago
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    Search Andy Bell Ashburton on your web browser to view my journals!
    Or click the link (Top right) on any of my videos

    Regards
    Andy

    I have seen three ufos the first easily one mile across, The second a close encounter
    Plasma technology (Cold Fusion) creates Anti-Gravity we are developing it search Kershe Technologies!

  • Andy 3 years ago
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    Keshe Technologies!
    I apologise!

  • Ilya Stavinsky 3 years ago
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    Some people think that I am salesman trying to sell Brooklyn Bridge and they advice me to get "a better camera phone or a professional Canon SLR" to record those AFOs that I see in the sky, instead of drawings attached to my article. The point is that there is no such sensitive camera on the market which can record AFOs that are on my drawings.
    Read below from
    "UFO Spotting & Recording Tips
    Photographing UFOS" site
    "Still cameras are handy, but are not suitable for all recording of UFO's, especially at night. UFO's are not always bright illuminations that stay around long enough to click a photo of. They are usually (but not always) fast moving dimly illuminated objects at high or very low altitudes just above tree or roof top. Under these circumstances a still camera is somewhat useless."

  • Dan Tanner 3 years ago
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    If the aliens are so tech. advanced ... how come we have brought down (any of) them ... ie with radar in the past.

    So its stands to reason they are not invincible.

    Hence … some sort of treaty …. or arrangement.

    I’m inclined to be believe the encounters that we are having recently don’t seem alien in nature … why would aliens care to knock a blade off a windmill in the UK … more likely this fits Banker / Oil company / NWO motive operandi. I’m also inclined to believe some secretive NGO(s) are terrorizing some of the less capable countries with UFO tech ... while everyone is claiming aliens did it.

    Your response Micheal Horn … if true … has lead me to question the whole Billy Mier story. He could have been one of the “first” psyops jobs on this planet … how are we to know “he” wasn’t being strung along like so many other abductees have been since. It is said / predicted that the “alien invasion” angle would be the last World War trick played on all of us.

    As for using this logic or that to prove an argument … see / read Hegelian dialect. Perhaps you can use it to better your word games.

    Micheal … I’m going to re-read the Micheal Horn material … and study the tone of what was been written here and compare it against the tone in the archives. Even if you really are that guy … how do we know you have not been gotten to … modifying you is something we / they are definitely capable of.

    There is soooo much more going on that this … Banker Bernard BankRipoff stole 50 Billion dollars, riots are starting all over the world, weather is freaking out all over the place and judging by the above article the NWO is on the move. Meanwhile I’m to assume Micheal Horn cares how this topic and thread turns out … whatever ;-)

    BTW Alfred Webre nice, well written article ;-)

  • Ilya Stavinsky 3 years ago
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    For your informatiom I had not only read
    Hegelian dialect and Aristotel one but developed the whole classical philosophy. See my articles on internet
    "Formal and Dialectical Logic as Unity of Opposites or Development of Classical Philosophy" or "THE MYSTERY OF LOGICAL PARADOXES SOLVED".

  • Dan Tanner 3 years ago
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    Dear Ilya Stavinsky: “Addition to my previous msg. …Introduction of "free energy" into the capitalist society will create another problem for the government. It will create millions of unemployed people who will lose their jobs in sectors producing oil,coal, electricity ect. and in sectors which directly or indirectly connected with them. But in reality all those problems including the reach people who control those branches of productions, can be solved within the frame of the capitalist society. The future form of this capitalist society is called "Social capital"”

    NWO - Mumbo Jumbo … that’s what that is!

    If you had alien tech … replicators … free energy … spaceship transportation, etc …?

    Why would you need a job? Government (and paying taxes)? Banks(fake money)? Non-renewable consumption? … Why ravage the planet?

    Governments (the devil / Lucifer / professional liars / parasites) fear this.… exactly

    You seem conditioned to have slave … can you think any other way?

    This mentality may be why some of us deserve what is coming. ;-)

  • Dan Tanner 3 years ago
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    correction : You seem conditioned to be a slave … can you think any other way?

    The whole point about the Hegelian dialect (if you can beyond that) is that you don't have to subscribe to the argument ... point being ... you don't have to play that game ... no red pill, no blue pill ... it's the same monster offering both solutions.

  • Ilya Stavinsky 3 years ago
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    Dan,
    1."NWO - Mumbo Jumbo … that’s what that is!"
    Instead of making fast conclusion about "Social capital" please read at least my articles on this subject. After that if you still will be interested you can read my book "Capitalism today and capitalism tomorrow" where I use Hegel's dialectical logic in the form of economic categories, and which is the Development of classical political economy.
    2."it's the same monster offering both solutions." That is true. But to understand why it's happened people have to be familiar with four Laws of formal logic and understand how they work. My articles that I referred to you before will explain that.
    3. Formal and dialectical logic it is the only weapon that people use to acquire knowledge, no matter whether it is theoretical or experimental discovery. If you don't trust logic generally you will contradict to yourself, because your arguments against it are based on the logic that you don't trust.

  • Dan Tanner 3 years ago
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    yah OK Micheal Horn ... on thefly websight someone negates the protocols of zion on the "The_Chemtrail_Conspiracy" page ...

    "Especially addressed is the vicious, anti-Semitic, fraudulent document known as the “Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion”."

    Now I know for sure the Billy Meier story has been skewed. The protocols may or may not be true ... but some of the most famous people in the world have said they are diffinately used in practice. Nuff said

  • Dan Tanner 3 years ago
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    RE: Ilya Stavinsky ... so these are the laws eh ... 1. Law of identity. 2. Law of contradiction. 3. Law of the excluded middle. 4. Law of Sufficient Ground.

    Read your two references ... It's just word vomit strung together to make ... um, not sure exactly ... perhaps a brain cramp. Not quite the Hegelian dialect I was referring to.

    Does "Social capital" mean communism in your world? Where do you get these things?

    Critical thinking ... people ... critical thinking.

  • Dan Tanner 3 years ago
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    The only law that matters …

    Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

    Treat other people with the concern and kindness you would like them to show toward you. This saying has come to be called the Golden Rule.

    Not to be confused with the satanic version of the law …

    Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

  • Dan Tanner 3 years ago
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    The only law that matters …

    Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

    Treat other people with the concern and kindness you would like them to show toward you. This saying has come to be called the Golden Rule.

    Not to be confused with the satanic version of the law …

    Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

  • Dan Tanner 3 years ago
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    RE : Micheal Horn
    Billy Mierer / Micheal Horn state in one of their online theyfly articles … that during a Ptha alien channeling, meeting or whatever … that they where talking about the protocols of zion? … are you kidding me? An advanced alien man and high ranking leader of sorts, all hug up about the protocols. Why would he care?

    I have to admit, I was sucked in. Sure hope some of the Billy Mierer stories where true. … .I’m beginning to think that the diatribe could be a fairy tail .. and perhaps only the German UFO and man are real. Were talking 1975-76 here. Frankly, those Billy Mierer stories just don’t add up any more …

    It’s seems kind of a shame to inject Mierer/Horn brand dis-info into this well rounded eye-opening article. But, perhaps that is your job Micheal.

  • Big V 3 years ago
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    here's what we can expect? in one word - NOTHING!

  • JimO 3 years ago
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    "Sir Eric M. Gairy, Prime Minister of Grenada, who proposed UNGA Decision 33/426, was subsequently deposed in a U.S. CIA-sponsored coup during a visit to New York. "

    Did anyone who read and swallowed this story wonder why such a stupid lie was inserted into the text, and why the author figured he could get away with it? Try a little reality-checking once and awhile -- foil the foolers!!

  • Rayrae G 3 years ago
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    Time is the fabrick of our contention - That which we cannnot see is not - Is being processed

  • SordidCorpse 3 years ago
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    A sickness,a volatile disease,has gripped this planet!No matter your 'intellectual' input into every orifice of society,true wisdom begins by servitude to God,and im sick of armies of jews and jew sympathisers clogging up the bandwidth with your incessant crying and moaning,better get in line because in the end the words of Jesus Christ will judge us all!The time is here,you have begun to show yourselves,ancient filthy spirits behind media (medium) and governments,behind every probate concept!Whatever happens,Christ is alive,and bring whatever fake messiah or snake which sheds its skin in private!Oh the humanity...get over it!A man is not a slave,and when Christ descends,i wonder if some will try to cash in on the event?The day of rebuke is upon Amerika,and in this state we will believe in anything to try and stop the pain!The day of God will be dark,and before that the world will burn,even 'scientists' agree on that last part!There is no compromise anymore!

  • Advocate for Human Freedom, Human Empowerment, and 3 years ago
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    Advocate for Human Sovereignty and Human Unity: “What do you have to say to those who view the Intervention as a positive thing?”

    "We understand, first of all, the expectation that all forces from the heavens are related to your spiritual understanding, traditions and fundamental beliefs. The idea that there is prosaic life in the universe is a challenge to these fundamental assumptions. From our perspective and given the experience of our own cultures, we understand these expectations. In the distant past, we maintained them ourselves. And yet we had to relinquish them in facing the realities of Greater Community life and the meaning of visitation.

    You live in a great physical universe. It is full of life. This life represents countless manifestations and also represents the evolution of intelligence and spiritual awareness at every level. What this means is that what you will encounter in the Greater Community encompasses almost every possibility.

    However, you are isolated and do not yet travel in space. And even if you had the capability to reach another world, the universe is vast, and no one has gained the ability to go from one end of the galaxy to the other with any kind of speed. Therefore, the physical universe remains enormous and incomprehensible. No one has mastered its laws. No one has conquered its territories. No one can claim complete dominance or control. Life has a great humbling effect in this way. Even far beyond your borders this is true.

    You should then come to expect that you will meet intelligences representing forces for good, forces for ignorance and those who are more neutral regarding you. However, in the realities of Greater Community travel and exploration, emerging races such as your own will, almost without exception, encounter resource explorers, collectives and those seeking advantage for themselves as their first contact with Greater Community life.

    Regarding the positive interpretation of visitation, part of this is human expectation and the natural desire to welcome a good outcome and to seek help from the Greater Community for the problems that humanity has not been able to resolve on its own. It is normal to expect such things, particularly when you are considering that your visitors have greater capabilities than do you. However, a large part of the problem in interpreting the great visitation has to do with the will and the agenda of the visitors themselves. For they are encouraging people everywhere to view their presence here as wholly beneficial to humanity and to its needs."
    from The Allies of Humanity Briefings-Book 1 by Marshall Summers. alliesofhumanityDOTorg/book1.php

    The most objective, logical, and well reasoned perspective on the ET Intervention in the world today and the intentions, ethics, and motivations behind the ET Intervention into human affairs using secret means, taking people against their will repeatedly--often psychologically scarring them permanently, for life, not to mention the fact that they do all of this secretly, including developing a hybrid race as leadership for humanity.

    This is an event of nature, its called competition for resources (biological in this case) and given the constant history of intervention in nature and in our own human history, we know when intruders are on your shores without your permission, your awareness or your ability to chaperone them, that these intruders must be assumed to be there for their own purposes, not our own purposes, as above, so below.

    , the Allies of Humanity Briefings, Book 1 of which are online entirely free at the address
    alliesofhumanityDOTorg/book1.php
    These ETs demonstrate that just like humans intervening upon one and another through out human history, for resources and access to resources (land, food growing sources, precious metals, etc) that there can be no mystery about what is going on here. And likewise, there can be no way to view this phenomenon objectively without this awareness that we are the native peoples of the world, experiencing an unwelcome, hostile Intervention into human affairs by resource explorers from beyond the world. Dr. David Jacobs work, "The Threat," and his amazing research, as well as the research of Budd Hopkins, Jim Marrs, demonstrates the ugly truth behind our 'brothers and sisters' from space's true motives and intentions.

    We are sitting on a planet of immense biological value and importance, the Allies refer to Earth as being considered to be a real gem in a universe replete with barren worlds.

    Ask any 4 year old, "If a uninvited intruder is in your home, hurting you and your animals without your permission, what does that mean?"
    Don't talk to strangers? Don't take candy from strangers? Remember? Same stuff here, but folks only see what they want to see, based on their assumptions, their beliefs, and their preferences in the situation.

    Most people's ET beliefs are nearly entirely formed based on products propagated by the corruptorate media and film industries (Star Trek, Star Wars, ET, Close Encounters, War of the Worlds, etc.--Spielberg has admitted he made all his movies pro-ET Intervention because that is HIS belief and assumption). This makes people incredibly well suited to believe that advanced technology from ETs somehow equates to advanced consciousness or ethics (ET technology that we have is really only trinkets from space--like columbus' era of explorers and their horses and weapons).

    The ETs have many fans, apologists, and people making a lot of money of their products relating to this phenomenon, the publisher behind the Allies of Humanity Briefings by direct constrast is non profit, entirely. So, follow the money, figure out the beliefs and you'll discover quickly that these pro Intervention folks only report what supports their hypotheis: that they must be here for our good if they're here at all.

    When someone breaks into your home, and your catch them repeatedly stealing from you, and cruelly experimenting on you/your family, how in God's name could this possibly be construed as being for your good?

    When you break it down to the fact that we are the Native Peoples of Earth, its clear to see that someone is skewing the data to sell their next conference (MUFON, Loughlin, etc.), magazine (FATE, UFO Magazine), book (Greer and countless other new age types), or "documentary" (Romanek, Phoenix Lights, many others). They're selling their hypothesis, their view, their hope, their product: and thats about it. They're raising awareness of this issue, but they're not seeing the real perspective of it, and they want to persuade you. By persuading you, you're engaged enough to stay interested, in their "compelling" infotainment. This is the majority of what exopolitics really is. Its infotainment, more stimulation and human speculation about a situation which most pro-Intervetionists know very little about. How could they, they're stuck here on the surface of the planet looking out into space, they're part of the phenomenon, they're not able to witness the true ET activities from outer space, if they did they'd change their views in a heartbeat.

    Most of these apologists and new age fans of the ETs need a real change of heart. They need to see the full panorama of the data here, not some little slice only, and ridicule and judge what doesn't fit into their pretty biased viewpoint. This is what I did. This is what everyone did. Its called real research, you go where the data leads you, like Dr. Jacobs did in The Threat, you don't make the data go where you want it to go.
    People are making this be what they want it to be. Thats why there are so many apologists and advocates for the Intervention, and so few critics, especially critics such as myself who advocate human empowerment, human potential, and human self-sustatinablity by preserving the irreplacable environment and its life sustaining resources that must be maintained if we're to have any hope of living on our own, without manipulation from races from beyond.

    Therefore, check out renseDOTcom and his work, but make up your own mind, exercise discernment, patience, and see what your gut reaction is to this phenomenon over time. Don't make up your mind just because someone else told you what they want you to think. Do your own objective research, set aside what you believe, and find out within yourself what your abliity know the truth--Knowledge--is really trying to tell you here.

    Another good website for discernment and human sovereignty, cooperation, and unity:
    HumanSovereigntyDOTorg

    Jeff Rense doesn't believe this line of propaganda crap about ETs are here for our good, why should you. Also, "An Alien Harvest" by Lynda Moultan Howe, "UFOs & the National Security State" by Richard Dolan, "Above Top Secret" by Timothy Good, and of course, "The Threat" by David Jacobs, PhD. and both "The Allies of Humanity Briefings" Books 1 & 2 are, if anything is, absolute must reads on this topic.
    Those resources r here:

    HumanSovereigntyDOTorg/declaration-of-human-sovereignty-resources.htm

    Have your own experience of this important material, not someone else's beliefs. Thats what the Allies advocate: human empowerment, cooperation, unity, and human sovereignty for the entire Human Family, now and beyond, in the face of univited races from beyond. Look closer. The truth is so simple it escapes most people.
    AlliesOfHumanityDOTorg/book1.php

  • Bob Oliver 3 years ago
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    02/13/09. I live in Monterey, the seat of the New World Order. In October of 2007 Ed Grimsley met me here. We each had a pair of his 3rd generation night vision goggles. Within 1 hour I personally saw 4 groups of soundless space craft flying low enough that I could make out their shape and structure. They looked like delta triangular paper gliders with a tail section. They wre about 1/2 inch in size looking through the night vision which had a magnification factor of only 3. Their speed (estimate 40,000 mph) and performance was such that they looked like they were enveloped inside of a wave bubble. From one horizon to the other they made about 5 30% saw tooth cuts through the air. Their characteristic were best described as surrealistic. I suspect (feel and choose to believe) that these craft were ours. I have seen many other things since and learned many other facts and stories. I have interviewed many astronauts including Edgar Mitchell who was a moon astronaut. He assures us that space is full of life and that Rosewell was a real happening with ET.

    My post however is this: The Presidential Briefing Book has been removed from the internet. I have contacted the White house, but get only a generic reply which does not answer my specific question: "Where are the thousands of posts by people like myself who took the time to notify the public and the President (Barak Obama) about the ET presence, and asking for full disclosure." The posting are no longer available. If anyone knows differently or can give me a site to contact I would appreciate it. Otherwise I offer you my grave concerns and actual experiences.
    Bob Oliver 831 383-2676
    boboliver9@gmail.com
    The Quantum Leap radio program
    Mondays at 8pm Saturdays 9pm (west coast time zone) 888 krxa540
    www.krxa540.com

  • peter thoegersen 2 years ago
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    A mature civilization that can manipulate physics on the scale of folding it for space travel has, by that time, outgrown any need for imperialistic or militaristic enterprises. No exceptions. Any bullshit that arises will still come from humans, particularly those who feel they have something to lose. See? Very simple.

  • real deal 2 years ago
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    help hati god love u dont run from god what go up must come down jesus is comeing back 2 get his people in the name of jesus

  • HELP HATI GOD 2 years ago
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    what do a alen human look like they said obama seen 1 the united nations showed him 1 its all kinds of alens they look like u an me but its alen an human united nations mixed human with alens they is not of god its a new world order get saved now!!!!!!! in the name of JUSUS !!!!!!! JUSUS IS COMING BACK @ GET HIS PEOPLE A MEN

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