Fernando Ramirez
On April 17, 2009, the Orange County Board of Supervisors agreed to pay $3.75 million, plus an additional $900,000 in medical expenses to an illegal alien who was severely beaten by other inmates in the Orange County Central Jail. The Mexican national filed a lawsuit shortly after the incident. Fernando Ramirez, 24, was in jail after being charged with molesting a 6-year-old girl at a local park. He eventually pled guilty to the lesser charge of battery against a child. According to his attorney, Ramirez suffered brain damage and now needs help walking. Attorney Mark Eisenberg also claims that his client has been left with an intellect of a 4-year-old child. Despite the dire financial crisis facing Orange County, Ramirez received the largest settlement ever awarded by the county for an in-custody incident. The Board of Supervisors made their decision in a closed-door session and have refused any comment on the matter. If anyone would like to contact the Orange County Board of Supervisors to discuss the Ramirez settlement, I have included the following contact list for your convenience: -Board Chair Patricia C. Bates, Supervisor Fifth District (ph #: 714-834-3550) -Vice Chair Janet Nguyen, Supervisor First District (ph #: 714-834-3110) -John M.W. Moorlach, Supervisor Second District (ph #: 714-834-3220) -Bill Campbell, Supervisor Third District (ph #: 714-834-3330) -Chris Norby, Supervisor Fourth District (ph #: 714-834-3440) Reporter’s note: Except for one story carried by the Orange County Register, there has been no press coverage of this matter. One would think that an illegal alien child molester becoming a millionaire through taxpayer funding would be big news. Of course, a story such as this one would make people angry, and maybe even angry enough to hold their elected representatives accountable for the enormous crime wave being perpetrated by this country’s illegal alien population. I don’t know which is more outrageous, the now-daily accounts of illegal aliens raping our women and children; our elected officials allowing our land to be transformed into a Third World nation; or a complicit mainstream press, eager to assist in the cover-up of our destruction. ?
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Mr. Gibson is one of the most prolific writers on the subject of the Invasion by Mexico (aka illegal immigration). He leaves one important fact out of the equation...the fact that illegal aliens kill and murder at least 25 Americans per day nationwide in DUI vehicle accidents caused by them driving drunk or evading the BP or police and murder. Think about it--25 American lives snuffed out every day due to illegal aliens.
In case you missed the report on this when it first came out in 2006, here is Rep. Steve King's analysis:
WASHINGTON – While the military "quagmire" in Iraq was said to tip the scales of power in the U.S. midterm elections, most Americans have no idea more of their fellow citizens – men, women and children – were murdered this year by illegal aliens than the combined death toll of U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan since those military campaigns began.
Twelve Americans are murdered every day by illegal aliens, according to statistics released by Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa. If those numbers are correct, it translates to 4,380 Americans murdered annually by illegal aliens. That's 21,900 since Sept. 11, 2001.
But the carnage wrought by illegal alien murderers represents only a fraction of the pool of blood spilled by American citizens as a result of an open border and un-enforced immigration laws.
While King reports 12 Americans are murdered daily by illegal aliens, he says 13 are killed by drunk illegal alien drivers – for another annual death toll of 4,745. That's 23,725 since Sept. 11, 2001.
While no one – in or out of government – tracks all U.S. accidents caused by illegal aliens, the statistical and anecdotal evidence suggests many of last year's 42,636 road deaths involved illegal aliens.
YOU SEE IF ALL AMERICAN LAW ENFORCEMENT? THIS MIGHT NOT OF HAPPENED AT LEAST BY AN ILLEGAL INVADER.SANCTUARY CITIES ALL NEED LAWSUITS AND CHARGES BROUGHT AGAINST OFFICIALS AND POLITITIANS MAKEING THESE CITIES.ENFORCE ALL ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION LAWS AND GET MORE IF NEEDED? BACK TO MEXICO WITH THE LARGEST NUMBER OF INVADERS.NO MORE LAWSUITS BY AN ILLEGAL ANYTHING?AN AMERICAN>>>>
Hey Person!!!!!!!!! Not all the persons are the same my husband & My dad are illegal immigrants and respectful ones as well honest people to as for me I AM AN AMERICaN CITIZEN WITH A (MBA) SO BACK OFF WITH THE DISCRIMINATING, people WHO ARE IMMIGRANTS they are people like you to so you should keep that in mind to. THERE'S GOOD PEOPLE AND BAD PEOPLE SO LOVE YOUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS LIKE GOD WOULD WANT YOU TO!!!!!!!!!!! * I SUPPORT THE DREAM ACT AND THE IMM REFORM *
Crap like this should turn everyone's stomach! The guy molests a child and walks away a millionaire. Mean while, Obama and Napolitano are pulling 400 border patrol agents off of our southern border.
Go to NumbersUSA.com and fax your government officials to express your outrage that illegals are destroying the quality of life in this country. Its free, but you can donate.
This stuff happens because we have traitors in charge of this nation. They spend everday abusing the American citizenry, and at tax time these same traitors hold out their hands and demand we pay. Folks, Mexican nationals, or ANY FOREIGN NATIONALS IN THIS NATION ILLEGALLY, DESERVE NOTHING, NOTHING FROM THE AMERICAN TAXPAYING CITIZEN AND LEGAL RESIDENT.
From the article:
"Fernando Ramirez, 24, was in jail after being charged with molesting a 6-year-old girl at a local park. He eventually pled guilty to the lesser charge of battery against a child.
According to his attorney, Ramirez suffered brain damage and now needs help walking. Attorney Mark Eisenberg also claims that his client has been left with an intellect of a 4-year-old child."
This creep was charged with molesting a 6-year-old little girl. Now, after the beating he sustained in jail, he has the intellect of a 4-year-old child. How very ironic.
By the way folks, American friends, do you know why Ramirez was awarded the money "SECRETLY"? Because as I said in my previous post, WE HAVE NOTHING BUT TRAITORS AND SPINELESS WIMPS, IN CHARGE OF OUR CITIES, COUNTIES AND COUNTRY. THEY KNOW THIS STUFF IS ILLEGITIMATE, BUT THESE WORTHLESS, USELESS BEUROCRATS DO IT TO GET IT OFF THE TABLE AND MAKE THEIR LIVES EASY. The city should have fought against the crooked and useless lawyers that take out these lawsuits. Public outrage would have settled the matter once it was discoverned and the beurocrats involved in rewarding this scum would have been shaking in the boots, to protect their jobs. SICKENING AND A SYMPTOM OF WHY THIS NATION IS GOING DOWN AND FAST UNLESS WE DEMAND CHANGE, AND NOT OBAMA AND PELOSI'S TYPE OF "CHANGE FOR THE WORSE".
HELP STOP ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.......MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD: www.numbersusa.com/content/
WHAT IS NUMBERSUSA ALL ABOUT:
www.numbersusa.com/content/learn/about/what-numbersusa-is-all-about.html
If someone is stupid enough to get incarcerated these days then whatever happens in prison is a result of their having chosen to be criminal especially if they are a child molester. He deserves $0.00 dollars and should be immediately deported.
they sould have killed the P.O.S in jail,
Notice the open borders posters are absent.
The facts is,is that may of them have agendas,i suspect that some are in fact racially motivated,they throw the word out "Racism"to stifle debate and being informed on the crime wave from a population mainly from Mexico.
Everyday in every city in the USA rapes,murders,drugs,schools,hostpitals being over run.
All at the American taxpayers expense.
The open borders crowd have let loose an uneducated,criminal mentality populace in our communitys,stealing from our labor and putting our lives and our familys at risk.
They have no shame,nor do they deserve any.
Back in the day, didn't the "community" hang people for what this guy did?
I agree with what Bobby said, and I will add this. Until a CONgress persons daughter or son is raped by an illegal the infiltrators will flow into this country without any recourse.
While CONgress keeps trying to take away our freedoms with additional laws they can't/won't uphold the laws that are on the books.
America - A great idea, destroyed by USURY
If the State local,Federal,etc is as we all know letting this happen and stealing our money through fee's,higher taxes etc to fund this element in our communitys and protecting them.The only conclusion is that the State is in fact the enemy.
@ notice;
Crime decreases in most L.A. Sheriff's Department areas
latimes.com/news/local/la-me-sheriff-crime22-2009sep22,0,7821877.story
Crime in Los Angeles and many other parts of Southern California fell in 2008 for the sixth consecutive year.
articles.latimes.com/2009/jan/01/local/me-socalcrime1
New York City had more murders in 1961 than 2008.
bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=a6LIJt1oDrxY&refer=us
US Department of Justice, homicide rate 1900 - 2004.
www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/hmrt.htm
US Department of Justice, violent crime rates graph; Violent crime rates are now lower than 1973.
www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/viort.htm
@ notice;
Crime has been going down since 1990 - as immigration has been increasing;
www.wjh.harvard.edu/soc/faculty/sampson/articles/2006_NYT_OpenDoors.pdf
The graph above cuts off at 2006, so here is the FBI data for US murders in 2007 and 2008;
FBI Data on US Murders 2007;
Total -2.7
Northeast -8.6
Midwest -3.8
South +2.9
West -6.7
www.fbi.gov/ucr/2007prelim/table2.htm
FBI Data on US Murders 2008;
Total -4.4
Northeast -1.2
Midwest -5.2
South -5.2
West -4.2
www.fbi.gov/ucr/2008prelim/table_2.html
Dave Gibson reads a story like the one below - and seethes about "illegal aliens" (whether they committed the crime or not) committing 18 murders - despite the fact that cities of similar size (i.e. Baltimore) had over 10 times more killings;
A city of illegal immigrants with easy access to guns, just across the river from a metropolis ripped apart by brutal drug war violence. Should be a bloodbath, right?
Here's the surprise: There were just 18 murders in El Paso last year, in a city of 736,000 people. To compare, Baltimore, with 637,000 residents, had 234 killings.
San Diego, Laredo, El Paso—these cities are teeming with immigrants, and they're some of the safest places in the country.
www.reason.com/news/show/134579.html
More Immigrants = Less Crime?
www.livescience.com/strangenews/080318-immigration-crime.html
Big-City Police Chiefs Urge Congress to pass "Comprehensive Immigration Reform"
www.nytimes.com/2009/07/02/us/02florida.html?_r=1
NY Times/CBS Poll dated April 22-26, 2009; 65% would like to see undocumented immigrants legalized.
documents.nytimes.com/new-york-times-cbs-news-poll-obama-s-100th-day-in-office/page/16#p=16
Pew Research Center Poll: 63% of Americans Favour Path to Legalization for Undocumented.
immigration.change.org/blog/view/pew_poll_63_of_americans_favor_path_to_citizenship_for_undocumented
An April 30, 2009 ABC News/Washington Post poll finds 61% of Americans support Path to Legalization for Undocumented
abcnews.go.com/images/PollingUnit/1089a6HotButtonIssues.pdf
On Sunday, April 19, 2009, Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Secretary JANET NAPOLITANO went on CNN’s “State of the Union” and proclaimed that crossing the border is NOT a crime.
"crossing the border is not a crime"
youtube.com/watch?v=bTqim4Se70k
I see that Human Being, La Raza's Minister of Propaganda, has stopped by to copy and paste the same misleading, deceptive, and manipulated "facts" and "statistics" that he has posted several times in the past. He mistakenly thinks that by doing this, he can convince Americans that having 15-20 million illegal aliens in our country is good for the United States. Human League blurs the line between legal and illegal immigration, which results in his "facts" and "statistics" becoming totally meaningless. Human League has also posted some poll results, but as we all know, poll results can be easily manipulated by how the poll question is phrased, and by limiting the number of answers to the poll question that a person can choose from. I have no doubts that Human League was a snake oil salesman in a previous life.
Deport his ass to Mexico!
Most Americans are against illegal immigration, but these stupid Democrat politicians in office like Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama see them as more votes for their party and that is why these idiots in our government keep coddling them and excusing their behavior. Oh and to the idiot Human Being, most people support amnesty for the illegals who pay fines and meet certain requirements like being without a criminal record and living peacefully in their community and not causing trouble. That guy in the story above should of been deported.
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We can blame this on the Obama admin as much as we want but this whole thing really started way back with the signing of the Nafta crapola. Thanks to Daddy Bush for that. And that Klinton idiot. And the second Bush idiot. Hell, 5 or 6 years ago I watched a "immigrant" try to turn a tractor-trailer around in the middle of a busy city street. And those of us who tried to help were frustrated by the fact that the perp could not speak a friggin word of English and would just look at us with that stupid "I have no idea what they're talking about..." idiot grin.
How did this idiot even get a license? Did he actually have one> Was it real? Idiots....see a apttern here....
You undermine the whole argument by using the term "illegal alien." No human being is an "alien." We have all of these economic refugees here because NAFTA has pushed them off their land. Europeans have been economically exploiting the indigenous people of the Americas for 500 years. These "trade agreements" are just the latest sorry chapter. I wonder if you would be this outraged if the man were a white illegal immigrant from Canada. My guess is no.
That being said, the County has an obligation to make sure that people in their custody receive a certain level of care. Where were the guards while this beating was going on? Why weren't they doing their job? God knows, we pay them enough.
Maybe this settlement will force prison guards to do their jobs.
They should just have put a bullet in his skull and thrown his sorry ass back across the border. It would have saved the tax-payers millions. Minus the cost of a .45 round.
these inmates should have killed this P.O.S. maybe if this would happen to these supervisors childrens,maybe they wouldnt agree with rewarding a criminal,if this GOVERNMENT would close the border he wouldnt be here in the first place enforce border control.this country is filled will ILLEGAL MEXICANS,it is closer to 30-million+the anchored babies that become citizens,all at the tax payers expense,free food,free housing,they are abusing the system,how about 30-million AMERICANS invade MEXICO an demand free everything,an our babies become MEXICAN citizens an let the mexicans support us for life.close the borders,shoot to kill,like MAYOR DALY SAID IN (1968)IN CHICAGO.
This guy was awarded compensation for injuries sustained while in the custody of the state, not because he is in this country illegally, or for his crime against a child.
For all you people that want to kill everyone you don't like, I can only say this, I fear people with your type mentality more than I do this guy, because there seems to be more potential murderers than sex offenders roaming our streets.
On the positve side, now that this guy has money, the little girl that he molested can sue him and live happily ever after.
What a country!
commonsense says:
This guy was awarded compensation for injuries sustained while in the custody of the state, not because he is in this country illegally, or for his crime against a child.
ARE YOU RETARTED? HE WOULD NOT BE IN JAIL IN THE FIRST PLACE,IF HE WAS NOT A CHILD MOLESTER,THEN HE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN BEATEN,SO JEFFERY DAHMER HE WAS KILLED BY OTHER INMATES,THEN HIS PARENTS SHOULD SUE THE STATE OF WISCONSIN?HE WAS THE SERIAL KILLER OF WISCONSIN(GAYS)YOUR ARE FU%CKEN RETARDED!! YOU MUST BE A ILLEGAL CHILD MOLESTER TOO!!!!
this is bull-shit,illegals paid to commit crimes,hope the people that awarded this P.O.S.,hope it happens to them.
First of all it wasnt the beating that made him have the intellect of a 4 year old. He probably never bothered to go to school! Ugh I cannot believe how slimy the illegal aliens are. Taking advantage of us, that man got the beating he deserved, and in my opinion if he is still breathing, it wasn't a good enough beating.
this is insane! Im glad my parents moved me away for the OC area after i was born! I dont care if the man got the crud beat of him he so deserved it. As far as the County paying that man any funds what so ever is also INSANE! Its people like him who make the other child predators get away with what they do!
Wow, a lot of hate over there on the West Side...
To answer the question posed at the very end of the article: I definitely hold the mainstream media responsible for their silence. I always consider the other extreme and ask how would they respond. ie, What if the circumstances were exactly the same except the recipient of this largesse was a Christian minister? Would the mainstream media still remain mute? Sadly, we all know the answer to THIS question.
I would like to know what the attorneys made that represented him. That is the scam. All the money paid the attorneys and political class all take a big cut.
They should let this guy out of prison or where ever he is and let the girl's family know where he is. I guarantee that if it was my child or a child of one of my brother's, he would live a long and painful life.
They should let this guy out of prison or where ever he is and let the girl's family know where he is. I guarantee that if it was my child or a child of one of my brother's, he would live a long and painful life.
Human Being,
You are deluded. The little girl that was molested needs to file a civil suit and take the money away from that piece of crap.
putting it aside that he is an immigrant. Let say he is born here in the USA and he did this and he was your son. Would you have liked it.? Wouldn't you have done the same thing and gotten a attorney to defended your sons rights? Ya'll just reacting this way becase that person just happen to be an Illegal immigrant.
Where are the people of Orange County to protest this Board of Supervisors despicable action? After all it is the people of Orange County money
If my kid molested a 6 year old girl, I'd tell the judge to lock him up and throw away the key. I arrange for the beating. Sicko.
THIS IS AWFUL & THE LITTLE GIRL WILL REMEMBER THIS ALL HER LIFE--EVEN IF SHE SUED THIS SCUM & GOT HIS MONEY IT WILL NOT MAKE HER LIVE HAPPILY EVER AFTER! OH YEAH THE GUY IS SCUM. JUST WONDER WHAT TYPE OF SETTLEMENTS WILL FOLLOW ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY WITH ILLEGALS.
Just another example of the laws of this country benefiting the illegal over the citizens who rightfully live, work and pray here. God bless this unfortunate individual and may his life of riches be well rewarded in his own country. I wouldn't be surprised to find that he is still living here illegally and his ACLU lawyers are applying for his confirmed perminent status as a citizen of the United States of ChristianAmericanPatriots. It's only too bad that the people that beat him failed to fllow through and sen him to the justice that God will in the end place on his head!
Tony, you mug! if that was son molesting children, it would be me, not the inmates, cracking his skull.
Amen Willy d.
This is SICK!!! That perv needed to be hung from a tree and the little girl awarded the money since she is the one that will have to live with this the rest of her life! who cares that he got his self beat and he is like a 4 year old now, good message to send to all the sicko's out there, come to OUR COUNTRY COMMIT A CRIME AND YOU WIN THE LOTTO!!! I hope who ever made this choice knows that Karma will come back to bite them in the BUTT!!
send him back to his country like he came here POOR!
They should of gave that money to the people that served him some justice american style. I can't wait til there is a death penalty for molesting kids no matter who you are
Ummm..Don't people get beat up ALL the time in jail???? If it was that easy to be awarded money..I would think the prisoners would "arrange" such beatings..Lets see here, did they get the money because he was illegal and they played that card??? I am so sick of this..They fight for stuff in our country sooo hard..WHY don't they fight for things in their country so they will stay... if they LOVE it so much???
Omg the judge whom awarded him this money needs to be in prison. Let me guess he was released also
Tony illegal or not you molest a child you deserve what this guy had coming to him. If it was my son who raped a child I would have no mercy on him
good reason why California is a cesspool. Obama, secure our borders!!!!
Illegal is illegal ! He shouldn't have been here in the first place. This is EXACTLY why Arizona is standing up for what the government won't. Enforce our borders against those who REFUSE to come here LEGALLY. He has NO RIGHTS if he didn't get here legally.
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