October 4, 2004. I will remember that day for the rest of my life. For me, September 11, 2001 fades in comparison because October 4, 2004 was the day Child Protective Services (CPS) of Montgomery County, New York took my daughter away from me based on anonymous and false allegations. I finally got her back, but she would never have been taken in the first place if I had known more about how CPS and Family Court operated, and if I had known my rights under the law.
Don't make the mistake of thinking that it can't happen to you. Before it happened to me, I would have never thought it was possible. Although my wife and I were approaching age 50, neither of us had any experience with courts, lawyers or investigators of any kind. We had each received a couple of traffic tickets in our lives, which we dutifully pled guilty to and paid the fines. We had hired a lawyer twice for closings on house purchases. My wife had served on a jury once.We had been married for 25 years, raised two boys who were model citizens, extremely bright and had never had any trouble with the law. We both worked. My wife graduated from community college with a 4.0 average and was a charge nurse at a local nursing home. I had an M.A. degree in English and ran my own business. We paid our taxes, went to church, helped our neighbors, voted in every election, put up the flag on holidays-in short we were the kind of people that supposedly were the backbone of America.
The number one piece of advice I can give people who have been falsely reported for abuse or neglect is to hire a good lawyer. (I am not a lawyer, by the way, so please don't take any advice from this article without consulting a lawyer first.) But don't just hire any lawyer. Your lawyer must be familiar with family law and social services law. He or she must also be aggressive. Child Protective caseworkers and social service lawyers are very aggressive, and they will run right over a mealy-mouthed lawyer. I know because it happened to the first lawyer we had.
Another mistake we made was cooperating with CPS. It's just like cooperating with the police. It generally buys you nothing. When CPS investigators come to your door, you do not have to let them in the house, unless they have a search warrant. All of your constitutional rights are in force, and you need to maintain them.
Get the investigator's name and business card if possible. Speak as little as possible and as politely as possible. Close the door as soon as you are able and contact your attorney right away.
Before closing the door, ask what the allegations are. CPS will not give you a copy of the report but will generally tell you what the allegations are. Ask the investigator to read the report to you and write it down word for word. If possible, and legal in your state, record the conversation.
The CPS investigator may say she can't tell you the allegations unless you let her in the house. That's a lie, and CPS investigators are not beyond lying to get what they want out of you. They will bluff and try to intimidate you. Ignore all such actions. They will do anything to get into your house in order to snoop around and in order to talk to your children. Never let them talk to your children, unless a court forces you to or your lawyer advises you to.
Once CPS leaves and you have contacted your attorney, begin gathering any evidence you can to refute the false charges. These may include medical, dental and psychiatric records. If the allegations involve abuse, ask your lawyer about getting your child an immediate physical examination with accompanying photographs. If the false allegations involve a specific day and time, try to remember what you were doing at that time. If you were with other people, call them and ask them to be witnesses.
It's enormously important that you know all of your state's laws regarding Child Protective Services, neglect, abuse, as well as your rights under your state's constitution and the United States' constitution. Learning these laws now, before anyone falsely accuses you, will save you a lot of trouble in the future. And don't assume your lawyer knows the law. Make sure both you and he know the law.
Whatever you do, keep records of everything. I cannot emphasize enough the importance of documenting everything if you have been falsely reported. Get a blank notebook. Record the date and time of every conversation you have with Child Protective Services caseworkers, every visit, every visit or phone call with your lawyer and any visits you make to your child's doctor or counselor. In short, document everything that might have any bearing on your case.
Take the time to watch this video and pay careful attention to what this attorney has to say about documentation.
Just one investigation by CPS, and your life can be altered forever. Mine has been. Yours won't be if you prepare yourself in advance.
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i livein upstateny andmy doughter was drunk from olderguysthattook heranda friendinto thewoodsto drink theyare 14 years old andtheguysare in thereschool age18,19,25 i triedto get her help from this by a rehab counclergivento me by the school called liberty council whitch started aaguement with my husband and my daoughter astheyareboth bi polar anddid not take there meds she called cps saying we dont care basically about the boys and the drinking andmy husbandstatedhe does disiplin her by threatening to hitting her but doesnt and we knew about drugs and drinking. of coursewefoundout thatwas why we were seeking help such as an out patient program. well the agument got worseasthe counseler egged it on. so now i receivedno help for her and nowisgetting investegated by cps. theyreally should look to people who areabused instead ofpeople like me. if wewere abusing my children why is it that we sort out help with drugs and alchol|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||and if we hit her she hasno mark
Much, like the Salem witch trials, we(my husband and I) were accused of "emotional abuse." The child who accused us has ODD(oppositional defiance disorder). So, when, I say, he(the child) gets mad and vengeful when, you ask him to make his bed(by just pulling the blanket up)-he gets mad and vengeful when, you ask him to make his bed! The biggest problem of all is that we are poor and can't afford a lawyer. They refused to appoint one to us- which, I have paperwork of(they said the state can't afford a lawyer right now, however, C.P.S. had a County lawyer). Knowing my rights, tried to seek help. None were available. ACLU won't fight C.P.S. and the F.B.I. isn't allowed to. That's right! No one is checking on this "untouchable" government system. They allow heresay, in court. So, many of our Constitutional rights are being ripped away from the poor by, the C.P.S. system.
The same thing happened to me as well. I found that being poor I had ran into a dead end. There was no advocacy for me either, or for any other poor famliy in the same situation. I lost my children in the end. It was then I realized how very fascist the C.P.S. system and it's nazi social workers really are!
In my opinion, this article is a bit misleading. I am a CPS worker and have been for a number of years. Cooperation is key with the CPS investigator and agency. CPS investigators see many things that are unthinkable to the average person. These incidences have occurred in the most "perfect" urban households in the past. It is up to the CPS worker to assess for the safety of the child. If the parent is uncooperative, CPS will do what is necessary to gain access to the child ie: search warrant. It is not the goal of any CPS agency or worker to take children or break families apart. If you do not have anything to hide, cooperate and CPS will see that the children are completely taken care of and get out of your lives. If you make this process more difficult for the investigator, it will take longer, be more unpleasant, and force CPS to take extra precautions. To a CPS worker, the people who will not allow access to the child or home could be manufacturing Meth, other substances, or hiding
I think you forgot to mention that you recieve bonuses of up to 4000$ per child for adoptions and that you also bring in 84,000 in tax payers dollars into th country per child. Don't forget to mention the older children that you get institutionalized or teenagers with disabilities that you put on CINA's/ That really pulls it in for you.
Actually you are lying, you are a piece of shit, and I hope you fucking die you cunt fuck loser nazi bitch. It's people like you that deserved to be skinned alive for destroying lives you stupid sick whore.
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i agree . well how come we as parents have to go through all these letters just to find out who the person that called cps?
Each CPS investigator and agency acts and reacts somewhat differently. What I am saying in my article is that I cooperated fully with CPS initially and everything I said and did was used against me. Cooperation might help some people, but it did not help me. Furthermore, the idea that because we have nothing to hide, we should then let CPS and the police do anything they request is a short cut to the erosion of civil liberties.
When people have nothing to hide, then they should be left alone.
I was in this same boat & this article is exactly what i went through. If i would have then what i know now my ex husband would not have custody & my kids would not be miserable. CPS found all the allegations false but bc my ex knew a lot of the workers they found me guilty & I tried to appeal but it didn't help me at all. I cooperated like i thought i should thinking that the truth would come out. It did come out but it was after the fact. My daughter told the CPS worker it didn't happen but by this time she didn't beleive her.
i live upstate in delaware cnty n they r allowed to lie n make up statements n do as they please but lord if we weere to do this we would be prosecuted, i had cooperated with cps for as long as i can remeber on each false allegation that someone wanted to throw my way, well then came a newbie she was allowed to say what she wanted n do as she pleased n she did they took 1 of 3 kids under the age of 18 casue he had ODD n said what he wanted or acted out n thats my fault n thats the abuse that i do to him,,i need advice leads help cause the attny that i have now needs to be fired!! he does nothing n has done nothing since this happened 3 months agon n only 1 child sits there not that i want any of them there but its not rt,,i have no rts he says do as they say
My x husband has called cps 3 times in a 6 month period alleging that I'm abusing our baby now14 months. Each time they found not a single mark on her but they say they still have to keep the case open for at least 30 days. All cases went unfounded, but the invasion, embarrasment, having to prove myself is just wrong. Once they came to my home and saw that my baby was not injured it should have ended. Regardless these reports stay on record for years. The teachers doctors, anyone they feel the need to talk with; it's an invasion on your life!
I am involved in a case right now. im dating a man who has a child with his ex girlfriend. She is constantly sending him over to our home with bruises and cat scratches all over his body. We have both called Cps and they havent done anything for us. We had a lot of evidence showing she is not supervising the child well and she is not a fit mother. We just receieved a phone call from her saying his wrist was broken. I am sick of calling Cps because they dont help us. I dont know what else to do and am seeking advice
Do not listen to the cps case workers advice in the above comment box.My daughter Robbie Rose Robinson was taken from me on a false accusation and then when they couldn't prove it turned to coming up with every conceivable trick in the book.My story is to long and needless to say I never got her back. I believe she was young and they had a wealthy couple in mind from the start.This is not a conspiracy theory that I am talking about.I had not heard one truth come out of their mouth from the start and have no faith in the system anymore. CPS is absolute power who answers to no one and is corrupted absolutely.Beware
this is about under handedness and it happens every day. CPS is a brokerage firm for children and for funding they will do what ever it takes to stay that way. Good Luck.
Thankyou Robbie Roses Dad. I completely understand because I am just like you. Especially when you said your story is so long, I would have to write a huge book to get the whole story to fit. They lied. Yes CPS is a child brokerage firm. They steal children from the poor and then adopt them out to the wealthy and then make a bonus for it. Thanks to the Jasper County DHS in Newton, Iowa and the social workers there such as Mary Daniels, Heather Keenen-Leitz, and Andi Borsch I will likley never have my 4 sons Jake, Kai Griffen and River Fry back again as they now live with my mom and her very abusive husband Kirk Langmaid who likes to drag my baby upstairs by his ears. I am left with no hope, no faith, and I suffer constant pain and depression so I know exactly how you feel.
Here's some additional perspective. The article's advice seems sound to me (every case/family is different though). CPS workers are required to document everything, so a parent should too. We should all exercise our rights, always. If you don't want to cooperate then don't.
Understand that CPS investigators are mandated to also take all legal steps available to investigate allegations, assess safety of each child, and act to protect any child that is in immediate danger. The most invasive step is removing a child from the home. I cannot emphasize enough that this is the last step considered, and that NYS law specifically requires that other actions be considered first.
Here's the piece that everyone seems to skip over. Removal of a child requires a judges approval, terminating parental rights (freeing a child for adoption) requires a trial, evidence, many hearings, piles of evidence, and due process. So yes, get a lawyer and tell it to the judge, they decide in the end.
Your so wrong because the judges automatically rubber stamp everything CPS suggests. There is no recourse.
Let me ask u something... before ACS/CPS can remove a child, they have to PROVE the child is being abused? ACS here in Queens county didn't have o prove a thing... they railroaded me and my husband and kidnapped our kids without any evidence whatsoever. They snuck my children in a back room and took pictures of 'em and everything. Can I file a petition in family court and have them removed from fostercare right away, bypassing a trial discharge if I show proof that they violated my rights?
What the comment from CPS Veteran fails to say is that while a judge has to aprove of the removal of a child, he or she does not have to do so until after the fact. CPS can take custody of your child at anytime in New York State, on almost an conceivable pretext as I found out. While the CPS Veteran makes it sound like CPS does everything by the book, in reality it doesn't. Just read more of my articles to see what illegal things various CPS investigators have done in New York State.
I can't speak to NY, but in my state until a judge signs a legal document CPS cannot take custody of your child. In other words the judge has to have already signed the document before CPS takes your child. In my state, if needed we can request the police put a 6 hour hold on the child while we are locating a judge to review the evidence and if they agree sign the paperwork. During that time period, the police have custody of the child not CPS.
In NYS a judge has to sign the document but not beforehand. A child can be removed simply on the basis of an allegation. A hearing then has to be held within 72 hours.
A couple of years ago CPS was also at my door step mjy ex was accusing me of prostitution and of using meth my kids were only 3 and 4 at the time I had CPS at my door step every other day until one day I made him realise that the kids would be placed in a foster home because he had a criminal background and so did most of my family well it was too late my kids were removed and it took me about 8 months to get them back.....
CPS Worker said- "...If you do not have anything to hide, cooperate and CPS will see that the children are completely taken care of and get out of your lives. If you make this process more difficult for the investigator, it will take longer, be more unpleasant, and force CPS to take extra precautions. To a CPS worker, the people who will not allow access to the child or home could be manufacturing Meth, other substances, or hiding..." [something?]
Leonard sez- Oh please. Check out the Fourth, Fifth, and Fourteenth Amendments. Someone KNOWING their Constitutional Rights is a problem with CPS agents?
"The Bill of Rights was provided as a BARRIER, to protect, the individual against the arbitrary extractions of the majorities, executives, legislatures, courts, sheriffs, and prosecutors, and it is the primary distinction between democratic and totalitarian processes." STANDLER - Supreme Court of Florida en banc, 36 so 2d 443, 445(1948)
Foster Families Examiner; Hello it sounds like we are in total agreement here. My name is Marilyn and I am the National Director for nfpcar.org & fpls. Lets support each other in this effort. Our Articles are on the same subject, CPS. I invite you to read the articles submitted.
I agree that some parents aren't suitable perhaps, however, every parent+ person deserves a second or a third chance. Nobody on earth is perfect + if they are they must be a GOD.(Yea rit) what authority does any sole have to terminate a parental right involuntary? Only an evil person would consider this action over real, true rehabilation. People can change when they really need to. The process of Reproductiion. In any life form is a true blessing, society should't take this for granted but perserve it.
And what do you say to the children who have died at the hands of their parents because their parents were given second, third, forth, fifth etc. chances?
People can only rehabilitate if they want to. Although some people say they want to change, most people never follow through on their words. Opportunity is given, but at some point the children deserve the opportunity to have permanency and not continually wonder if today is the day Mommy really means it when she says things will be different.
I would say that CPS screwed up by giving the parents too many chances.
Many parents don't change, but some do. Most CPS agents do not change, and that includes you with the misinformation you keep putting on this page. CPS has removed children based on a report only, without an investigation. Please make sure your information is correct from now on when you post a comment or the comment will be deleted.
My heart and prayers goes out to every family who endoured the injustice of CPS + the family court system. Sincerely!
Someone(my kids father) keeps calling acs on my family.now mind you if my children went into the system he would not try to get them.Acs has investigated my family over 4 times and every time everything was unfounded yet they keep coming back everytime their is an call made.what earks me is you cannot face your accuser when these calls are unfounded.I told the acs worker she could not speak to my children without a lawyer around she took it apon herself to go to their school and interview them.what can I do to stop what is really harrassment .what are my rights you can contact me on facebook
I suppose it's possible that cooperating with cps may help in some cases, and it likely depends on whether you get a sane case worker. In my case, I fully cooperated with a false claim and it did nothing but backfire on me. I would NEVER recommend giving an ounce more info to these people than you absolutely have to. DO NOT be naive! They will portray you in their report however the wish to and you have zero defense against it. Fortunately I was able to clear my name eventually, but it takes an incredible amount of time and a trial. You have no rights and the court won't listen to a word you say until you go to trial. You are simply guilty until proven innocent. I'm truly sorry for you if you find yourself in this situation. What an awful and evil agency we've created.
While it is your right to not allow CPS into your home, Please understand the next step in thier Evil plan is to go to a Judge and get that "Rubber Stamp Approval" for Immidate Risk removal. The will say they could not "prove" the children to be safe there for needed to act in removing them. TRUST ME! I turned CPS away at the door and it happened to me. Tread carfully...
Having been a CPS worker for a few years, I find most of the comments here quite laughable. Clearly written by angry parents who may or may not have a factual basis in their comments posted. However, you should be well aware that there is no such thing as rubber stamp approval for an initial "Preliminary Protection Order". The CPS worker must first document the report, the severity of the report and then the facts as to why custody is sought versus a court order that requests services. A Preliminary Protection Order is quite rare compared to the number of reports made each year. If CPS was able to convince a judge (via the filed piece of paper) to allow them to take custody of your child, it was for a reason. I am sure the judge shared the reason with you at the first court hearing...they are required to by law.
Statutes governing CPS work are primarily FEDERAL statutes that states adopt in order to receive federal funding. It is far cheaper for states to return custody of children to their parents rather than retaining custody of the children. As for 4K bonuses one commenter referenced above...they don't exist. Nice try. We get no bonuses for removing children from birth homes and we get no bonuses for them being adopted and no bonuses for returning them to their birth homes. Their is no incentive other than protecting the children in this job. In fact there are many detractors to having a job as a CPS worker. Being verbally bashed by people who clearly buy into ridiculous conspiracy theories, have no idea what they are talking about and think having been involved with CPS makes them an expert on what to do is one of the main detractors.
Save the childish name calling for the playground folks, do some actual research before expounding your personal theories on what someone else should do if CPS comes to their home.
BTW - I would agree that you have the right to decline to cooperate with CPS, but just like when you refuse to cooperate with the police, lack of cooperation fosters suspicion. Suspicion won't get your children removed from your home, but it will make the investigation more intense. And yes, CPS has a right to interview your children without your consent, but a legal form has to be filed to indicate why this happened. An uncooperative parent provides legal grounds for CPS to have interview access to the children. Think about people - a parent who knows they are abusing their child isn't going to want CPS to interview them (for the most part) and in order to ensure the safety of the children we have to assume that just because an adult says they didn't hurt the child doesn't mean they didn't.
On a final note - the most devastating thing I have run across is foster parents who abuse children. Yes, it happens. Even the most stringent background checks, home studies and complete family interviews don't/can't weed out all the bad eggs. It is a slap in the face to have a foster parent hurt a child, after all they were entrusted to keep the child safe while the child's parent works to correct issues of safety in their birth home. I cannot tell you what an utter betrayal it is to everyone, especially the child.
CPS Worker, While many of your comments are valid and useful saying that the comments of parents are angry and laughable reveals a certain snooty attitude on your part that too many parents have encountered with CPS workers. And while not cooperating with the police or CPS may make you suspicious, you ought to consider the fact that some people believe in the constitution and are only protecting their rights.
Using the term laughable, may indeed be snooty and certainly some or a lot of CPS workers may have a snooty attitude. I'll tell you what makes me snooty...people who clearly are not giving the full backstory as to why CPS became involved in their lives and then complain, in a very slanted manner, about the treatment they feel they received. Maybe if people would just make an honest assessment of what happens the stories would seem less abhorrent. Claiming a CPS worker gets a bonus for taking your child is utterly ridiculous and patently false. Perpetrating that lie across the internet where people who don't know better will latch on to the lie as if it were fact is frightening. Use the internet to educate people for real, stop using it to scare and frighten people with ridiculous stories of government funded kidnapping. Trust me...a CPS workers life would be vastly easier if parents did what they needed to do and demonstrated the safety and well being of their children is not in question.
Would you like a true CPS fact? My review is based in part on the number of families I reunite each year. The lower the number, the worse my review. My review is also based on the number of children I have placed with relatives versus foster care - again, the lower the number of children with relatives versus stranger foster parents, the worse my review is.
I have never said anything about anyone getting a bonus. I do know that in my case the social services attorney reneged on her promises to me and my wife when she realized that what she promised us would cost the county in federal funding. By the way I CPS indicated two reports of neglect in my case and both were overturned in a state hearing, in which the judge stated clearly that CPS should not have done what it did.
According to the CDC in Atlanta 2/3 of all neglect and abuse allegations are unfounded. However, they still cause an unnecessary amount of harm to families. Funny how CPS thinks people should cooperate if they have nothing to hide. Try to get documents, etc. from CPS. CPS gives new meaning to the word stonewall.
It's a sad day when I am working harder to reunite a child with their parent(s) than the parent is working. Sadly, that is most days. I have found the clients who complain the loudest and say things similar to what is written here are usually the ones who are doing the least to try to get their children back. In fact, when looking through websites such as this, I often come across former or current clients whom I know the full backstory on and can see the important holes they leave in the stories they are telling. It's sick.
As far as the constitution and protecting their rights, I support that completely. Generally speaking though, people who don't have anything to hide don't try to hide anything.
The reality is, if your story is for real and the allegations were absolutely false - you are a rarity. Those cases disturb the Caseworkers as well - though we aren't supposed to tell you that. Having been involved in cases such as that, I know what it is like to look at your co-workers and say "How do I try to help them pick up the pieces, knowing those pieces will never be the same again." I know what it is like to try to reintegrate a child who has made horrific, false, allegations against their parent, back into their family.
No one should feel sorry for Caseworkers. We choose this job because we are tough and those of us who aren't leave the job within about 2-3 years. This job is not easy, it's not supposed to be. The lives of children are in our hands every day. That should be a hard job. But please, do the public a favor and stop painting us as if we are hairy, green trolls sitting in the corner drooling over your children as if they were the "precious" and raking in cash bonuses for children who are adopted. The reality is if we do have to be involved with your family, we are hoping that the family is able to pull things together enough that the child's safety is not at risk.
There are bad caseworkers out there (just like every other profession) but if they are bad it is because they are lazy or on a power trip. They don't normally last too long. And even those caseworkers are not raking in cash bonuses for your children. But if you are going to call a caseworker a bad caseworker, make sure you are honest about what you have done as well. It's called personal responsibility. The reason I said the comments are laughable is that it is easy to read between the lines here and see where personal responsibility, acceptance of one's own choices/actions and insight into how those things affect their children is limited - and by saying limited I am being generous.
Parents are entitled to all documents regarding their case via the discovery process. That is a federal mandate.
Social services organizations do not have attorney's, but the state does. Generally an assistant attorney general handles all CPS cases. AAG's are notorious for making promises they cannot follow through on, but it is important to remember - as with any type of court case- unless the 'promise' is part of the court order it will not likely happen.
Neglect is sometimes difficult to prove, if it exists at all. Neglect does not meet the federal standard of "immediate danger" required to place a child in NY state custody without a court order first. If you are telling the whole story, the judge not only should have reprimanded the worker, but filed a professional complaint against the CPS workers social work license for unethical practice. If you are not telling the complete story, the parts you are leaving out are likely where the "immediate danger" standard came in to play. For example, if you were accused of neglect and sexual abuse and the investigation indicated that sexual abuse could be taking place in your home - the immediate danger standard would apply.
I don't believe you even work for CPS because you continue to state things that aren't true. The law may say that parents are allowed to have all of the documents, but my experience has been that CPS doesn't follow the law. AAGs do not handle CPS cases in New York State. They aren't even handled by the district attorney's office. They are handled by the attorneys for the Social Services Department.
I don't have time to continue responding to the false information you keep leaving on this site. In the future your comments will be deleted, you will be reported and blocked from commenting.
My mom got jealous of me when I got married and moved out and made a false CPS case against me to try to get my son for herself. I fully cooperated with the CPS worker and she saw right through my mom's lies and threw the case out.
The people that I have seen have problems with CPS are usually asked to 1) get a job, 2) get a GED 3) not use drugs, all simple things, and they are always unwilling to cooperate and then they get their kids taken away, or it takes a long time to get them back.
I have seen quite a few people go through this here and it seems to be working pretty well here.
To Mamaler0y,
Your input is shit, and you don't have a clue in the slightest. I have never heard of a CPS worker asking anyone to get a job, or GED. Sorry to burst your bubble, but BTW the report your "jealous" mother made is now kept on file. I suggest you kiss her ass from now on, Because the next report filed sooner or later they WILL believe! I hope your GED saves you.
DontMessWithMotherBear, Rehabilitation/Reunification plans that are required to be filed with the court provide a roadmap to parents whose child has been removed as to how to regain custody of their child. Those reunification plans typically include items like: must find stable employment and housing, must remain drug/alcohol free, must participate in a batterer's intervention program, must participate in anger management etc.
You get the drift. They are court ordered to comply with steps outlined in court to regain custody of their children. Some parents spend so much time arguing about what they will and won't do, the federally mandated time clock of 12-15 months in state custody runs out and then CPS must file a request to terminate parental rights. Some parents can't even be bothered to attend visits with their children when they have a cold. Parenting is a 24/7 job, you don't get days off when you have custody.
mamaler0y, keep doing what you do. CPS becomes accustomed to family issues (ex's calling on ex's, etc) and builds a file on that as well. While the report stays in the system, so does the fact that it was found to be untrue.
I have been going through a similar situation where my daughters ex boyfriends mother has called CPS many times over 5 years with false accusations. My daughter messed up 1 year ago and spanked her daughter with a belt. It only left a slight mark but that was enough for this woman to get her arrested. In the past this woman sued both my daughter and her ex boyfriend for custody saying they were unfit parents. Come to find out she had been taking pictures of every little bruise.
So after paying $20,000 for the custody case my daughter is now faced with the criminal case but decided it was better to take a plea bargain instead of incurring anymore debt. She is now on 3 years probation with 40 hrs of community servicce. Her 6 yr old daughter is now with her ex boyfriend. My daughter still has custody of her 4 yrs old (from her current husband).
It messed up her family horribly. Her husband committed suicide last March due to all the stress this mess caused.
Your daughter assaulted a child. No matter how small the mark was, she still left evidence of her assault. Your daughter had a choice to hit or to not hit. SHe chose to hit with an impliment. That has nothing to do with the ex-boyfriends mother.
The consequences your daughter has dealt with due to her choices have been numerous. Maybe next time she will think twice before she assaults a child.
If DFC, Castle, the Hibisucus center is investigating you can you just say I want to go to court? I've been dealing with them for a month and a half now. In the begining they said oh well will only be in your hair max one month, but most likely just two weeks. They said I only needed to put locks up so my daughter can't walk five steps to the neighbors again, and that they could get me free daycare, and some free classes for parenting techniques. I put up the locks and said no thanks for the daycare and that I'd like more info on the classes. I was up for the classes until I saw the website. It's for people who beat thier kids they have pictures of kids cowering, kids with bruised faces, a lady screaming with her hands over her head. So I told them I'm not going to go and sit in a class with abusive parents and say it's okay you didn't know any better. I thought they might have some other discpline routine other than time out, because my daughter doesn't learn from being put in timeout. I just want all of this over and done with, but a new lady came today and said that they recommended me for in home parenting because the classes are free(just trying to help me out), but they would be in our house along with the other caseworker who visits for 3 more months. I said thank you, but I'd rather pay for the classes and take them on the weekend. Well that made her very unhappy and she made it seem like I really didn't have the choice. She said I could put in a request, but the would probably deny it. I just don't understand I'm a good stay home mother. My daughter is bright and loving she can count to 20, she can draw and identifiy all the common shapes, recite her alphabet, and she even knows all her bones(because she doesn't like doing the same thing over and over I taught them to her) This all happened because I was distracted for 10 minutes cutting out bats and making ghosts for us to hang out side together. How many bad parents even do projects with their kids? I don't care how much it costs I just want this over. The DCF lady said that I can't take it to court but, I know they lie should I just call a lawyer or do I have to file something with DCF first? If anyone has any advice I would appreciate it.
Call an attorney immediately. You never have to file anything with CPS before seeking legal counsel. Of course some CPS Caseworkers won't tell you that.
Thank you for telling the truth for once--some CPS caseworkers won't tell you that you have a right to an attorney. In Schenectady County recently, CPS failed to tell a woman that, and she had her case thrown out. The judge said that the CPS workers were operating as police agents while doing their investigation and should have Mirandized the woman.
hey all you evil cps worker freaks why dont you do us all a favor and pull your lips over your head and swallow!!! idiots!! kidnapping freaks from HELL!!!
my son is 3 yrs old I do not have a criminal background but cps was called my my boyfriend's mother because he made a mistake and called her for advice. Next thing I know CPS is knocking on my door because she was harrassing me so i called a cop to stop it. Now they are telling me I can not be around my son unsupervised and I have to leave him with friends he has never really met. I dont understand. I do not do drugs I dont hvae anything on my record what is going on. I want to go get my son because he is stressing out he cries so hard when i get up to leave because I have to he runs to put hs shoes on and tells me mommy wait I feel like I am haveing to abandon him. I lost my baby at 8 weeks pregnant because of this. I want to go get my son and bring him home they told me that letting him stay with my friends was voluntary but if I go get him they will take me to courts I dont know what to do he is freaking out he already had seperation issues because I am all he has ever known.
What should I do? The cops made a false report claiming my husband hit my 14 year old daughter. When CPS pulled her out of class 4 days later, she stated she never said that and it was completely untrue. We had no idea cps would be called and neither did she. We had an argument and she was upset. She was walking a couple of blocks to a friends house. A horrible person pulled up along side of her and stated that she could take her away and she would never have to see us again. My daughter told me she was scared and quickly walked to a friend's house. This lady followed her and called the police. Now they want to interview my 3 year old. When they showed up at the door today, my husband asked to do the interview outside. He stated we must be hiding something and he would be back with a warrant. He never even told us his name. (We did use a video camera.) I have never been in trouble with the police and do not even spank my children. My oldest is 19 and we are happily married with great kids. I am so scared of losing my children. I have never heard anything good of cps, just the horror stories. We consulted an attorney today and are probably going to hire him Monday, but I do not want my kids to be taken in the mean time. Please help!
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