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Richard Schaefer's 4 million buys prediction for Mayweather vs. Mosley realistic?


Schaefer is optimistic but Mayweather doesn't look convinced (AP Photo)

Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer is known for his bold pay per view predictions, but his latest might have topped them all.

Not satisfied with his previous prediction that Mayweather vs. Mosley would merely break the all time pay per view record, he now thinks they could nearly double it.

Speaking to the media today at the final press conference, Shaefer said:

"I am not going to say that we are going to break the all time pay-per-view record. I am not going to say we are going to do 3 million either. 4 million pay-per-view buys are possible,"

Schaefer's buy rate predictions have been getting bigger and bigger as the fight has drawn nearer, and obviously 4 million is his most ambitious figure yet. Most doubt that this figure is achievable, but Shaefer has been right about this kind of thing before, and does have access to early sales figures and predictions from insiders.

The current pay per view record is 2.15 million purchases, which was for the May 5, 2007 Oscar De La Hoya - Floyd Mayweather fight. At that time though there were two big draws present, and both Oscar and Mayweather had sold well independently of each other before and after they fought.

Mayweather's last fight was a thrashing of an undersized Juan Manuel Marquez, which sold over one million buys even though the challenger was given very little chance against the returning Mayweather.

Mosley hasn't been seen as a huge draw in the past, and even against other big draws such as Oscar De La Hoya he has never put up huge numbers. His biggest to date was his second fight with the Golden Boy, which sold 950,000 buys, although much of the interest in this was the rematch angle. This was a big number back in 2003, since then Mosley has been hit and miss in his appearances, and until his last fight against Antonio Margarito was thought to be a spend force.

There are a couple of factors with this fight could enhance Mosley's selling power though. Firstly the fight is between two American athletes, which isn't something that happens all that regularly these days. This is significant simply because the United States is the biggest pay per view market. Of the biggest pay per view selling fights of all time, the vast majority of the fighters have been American.

A second factor could well be that Mosley is almost the complete opposite of Mayweather. Fans who don't like Mayweather's brash and at times arrogant demeanor are still buying the fight because he is against someone humble and quietly spoken in Shane Mosley.

Thirdly his first appearance on the 24/7 series will have helped Mosley to gain a slightly larger fan base than he would have had otherwise. At the age of 38 he isn't going to become a star overnight, or at all in fact, but the reserved Mosley is getting the exposure his pre fight talk tends to lack.

Mayweather vs. Mosley press conference pictures, click to view full:

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Should Mayweather succeed in breaking his own record he will undoubtedly be able to claim that he is the biggest draw in the sport today. Against any opponent he will be able to rightly demand the bigger share of the purse, even against pound for pound king Manny Pacquiao.

Brian Zenker, Pittsburgh: "What's wrong with Shaefer, every time someone speaks to him he adds on another million buys, I think he's just making this all up as he goes along"

Clive, Pittsburgh: "I don't think 4 million is that realistic, Mosley isn't the same kind of draw that Oscar was. It might break the record though"

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, Pittsburgh Fight Sports Examiner

Scott Heritage has been a fan of MMA since seeing grainy footage of the early UFC events, and has been watching ever since. He writes for a number of websites on a variety of topics, and finally decided to combine his two hobbies together. Scott has also trained in a number of different martial...

Comments

  • myk.. 2 years ago

    schafer done the sleep talking..keep dreaming schaf!!!!

  • critic 2 years ago

    what the hell is richie rich schaefer thinking? he thinks he can get 4 million with this ballet fight? he must be on roids.. like those apemen..

  • myk.. 2 years ago

    should it reaches 4 million buys..schafer will get broke buying ppvs all by himself.

  • MelRo 2 years ago

    I think Schaefer is under the hallucinations of drugs...

  • Richard Chupman 2 years ago

    5 million PPV would be more realistic than 4 million. Mayweather vs Mosley. All time Great vs Old timer!

  • lenin ti-ann 2 years ago

    make it 3,999,999,coz i decided not to buy.

  • hq 2 years ago

    i will boycott this fight....maybe they will have .4 million buys or 400T

  • cris 2 years ago

    richard is an idiot arrogant individual.

    boycott this fight.

    BOYCOTT THE FIGHT.....

  • Tyrone 2 years ago

    In a word...... NO!

  • xylocaine man 2 years ago

    4 million PPV? I believe it is 4 million watchers for free!!! Ha ha ha, wouldn't watch it for 55dollars..Richard Schaefer must be delusional into thinking that mongofloyd has that kind of fans..reason people going to watch it is half of it were for mongofloyd, half of it sugar shane fans..half of mongofloyd watchers wanted to see him loose..see that? poeple know why we don't like mongofloyd, even though he is as talented as he was when it comes to boxing..people know what kind of attiutde he has, including him of being racist, convicted woman beater etc etc..common people you know what i'm talking about..and he is not even exciting to watch...what a bore..

  • lmao 2 years ago

    4 Million! That's it? Why don't you make it 8 Million or even 10 Million. That's sounds even better.

  • VoxPopuli 2 years ago

    Mr Shaeffer, there's an ongoing campaign to BOYCOTT the PPV fight between Mayweather and Mosley. Your 4 million PPV buy prediction is a pipe dream - ain't going to happen. Folks, BOYCOTT this fight. Do not pay PPV to watch this fight.

  • Hans Bartisn 2 years ago

    No way! Who is in his right mind to buy such PPV like this. It will be a fight between a trackster and an old dog. It will be a snoozefest. Just save your $54 for a better cause. This fight will be a letdown. It is all hype but no substance.

  • Ralph 2 years ago

    Another dis-illussional pronouncement from Shaeffer. 4 Million PPV buys? Maybe 4 million YouTube hits. More like it! Not paying to watch Jr. Hell no!

  • John Marshall 2 years ago

    I go for the boycott of this fight. Who are with me?

  • kENkOY 2 years ago

    Schaefer is trying to condition the boxing world that Floyd is still the cash cow of boxing. This is one of their strategy to position themselves in case negotiation to fight the PACMAN would materialize in future. I would say that they maybe get less than 1M+ PPV buys but not more than 1.5M buys. That is the best they could get. Most of it just to see how Floyd will be destroyed by Shane.

  • Imnotwatching 2 years ago

    Jr will buy 1M PPV, Shane will buy 500 Thousand, Shaeffer will buy another 1 M PPV. Oscar another 1M PPV. That is already 3.5M PPV buys ! It is possible!

  • Howard Gains 2 years ago

    I'm with Mr. John Marshall. I also go for the boycott!

  • Rolan Mathers 2 years ago

    John Marshall count me in!

  • NotmyMoney 2 years ago

    Im not watching this and save my PPV money to watch either Darchinyan vs Donaire or JuanMa vs Concepcion. Jr does not deserve a penny from me. But I'll surely want to see it on Youtube.

  • Ben Dovers 2 years ago

    Me and 10 of my frieds are with you with Marshall. Boycott the fight!

  • Barako 2 years ago

    Does Schaefer have a formal education, does he knows what he is talking about? Maybe he is day dreaming again.

  • Gabe Harnton 2 years ago

    All for boycott:
    1. John Marshall
    2. Howard Gains
    3. Rolan Mathers
    4. Gabe Harnton

  • Cardel Arnolds 2 years ago

    Boycott all the way!

  • Robert Shannon 2 years ago

    Boycott!

  • Jay Louis 2 years ago

    Schaefer and company are fooling everybody. Where in the hell are they getting their numbers. I am disgusted by these pronouncements. It is an insult to the intelligence of the people. I won't buy the PPV. Mayweather is a fool. He is a bad example for children.

  • Brian Kini 2 years ago

    That thing, floyd is scared to fight outside Las Vegas because the substance he is using I think it is XYCLOCAINE is illegal in other States. BOYCOTT!!!! BPYCOTT!!! BOYCOTT!!!

  • Lord Barton 2 years ago

    I'm for the boycott. I think this fight will not live-up with the hype. Everything is all for money. Mayweather will be squeezing the pockets of the people. I won't be fooled by this Mayweather guy.

  • Henry Mcbride 2 years ago

    I hope the fight will be a flop. This will gain Pacquiao vs. Mayweather momentum.

  • maGGot_SOUP 2 years ago

    Boycot!!!

  • price 2 years ago

    boycott

  • Kenny 2 years ago

    Boycott here too!

  • pacman jr 2 years ago

    look at the way gayweather stare at dick schaeffer, he must be daydreaming of touching big dick schaeffer!

  • james 2 years ago

    yes, i don't buy this ppv. youtube, sure to watch 5 million buys

  • xxcool_jackxx 2 years ago

    Here in mID EAST, I think this fight is not that noisy unlike PACMAN vs CLottey before... Me and 100's of my friends are boycotting this fight..... I'd rather read it later in PACLAND website or view it in youtube later...

  • mark25 2 years ago

    realistically its probably just gonna be 1 million buys or less, the marquez fight didnt get 1 million PPV....GBP manipulated the numbers

  • pacman jr 2 years ago

    i'm gonna watch this fight but definitely not paying hehehehe!

  • Ex Floyd Fan 2 years ago

    100,000 buys is more realistic!! Gayweather fights are a waste of time and money. Im waiting for the replay nxt weekend!!!

  • r.a.w. 2 years ago

    All you boycotters are idiots. Why say "Boycott" when you could just shut up and not buy the fight? The thing is, you will all watch the fight. To you people, anything Mayweather is a must read. If you really like dislike the guy, don't read the articles that mention him and don't comment on them. Ignore all things Mayweather. But you can't ignore him because deep down you're all Mayweather fans!

  • john 2 years ago

    this is absurd. but definitely will watch but not paying for it.

  • Mestizo 2 years ago

    TO ALL OUR LATINO BROTHERS WHO LOVES BOXING
    SHOULD UNITE TO BOYCOTT THIS RACIST/PREJUDICE BOXER & PROMOTER
    PUSSY BOY FRAUD (PBF) & GAYDEN BOY PHOMOTION (GBP) FUTURE FIGHTS !

    A TODOS NUESTROS HERMANOS LATINOS QUE AMA BOXEO
    DEBEN UNIRSE PARA BOICOTEAR ESTE RACISTAS PERJUICIO BOXER & PROMOTOR
    PUSSY BOY FRAUDE (PBF) y GAYDEN BOY PHOMOTION (GBP) FUTURO FIGHTS !

    TO ALL OUR LATINO BROTHERS WHO LOVES BOXING
    SHOULD UNITE TO BOYCOTT THIS RACIST/PREJUDICE BOXER & PROMOTER
    PUSSY BOY FRAUD (PBF) & GAYDEN BOY PHOMOTION (GBP) FUTURE FIGHTS !!

    A TODOS NUESTROS HERMANOS LATINOS QUE AMA BOXEO
    DEBEN UNIRSE PARA BOICOTEAR ESTE RACISTAS PERJUICIO BOXER & PROMOTOR
    PUSSY BOY FRAUDE (PBF) y GAYDEN BOY PHOMOTION (GBP) FUTURO FIGHTS !!

    DON'T WASTE YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY ON "WHO R U PICKING" FIGHT ON MAY 1st
    BY BOYCOTTING AND WATCH IT ONLY ON "YOU TUBE" FREE THE FOLLOWING DAY !!!

    VIVA LOS LATINOS !!! VIVA LOS FILIPINOS !!! VIVA LOS LATINOS !!!

  • Das 2 years ago

    Who was this welterweight who claims to be the best boxer ever by having a perfect record of 40-0? and claim that he better than Ali and Sugar Ray Robinson?

    Well lets examine if his record is really close to those boxers who's name were mentioned in the Hall of Fame.

    The officially awarded greatest of all time, Sugar Ray Robinson, was 128-1 in the prime of his career. He finished his career at 173-19 with 108 KOs.

    Which record do you think is far better than the other? 40-0 (Floyd Mayweather Jr.) or 134-1 (Willie Pep)?.

    Not only did These Hall of Famers have outstanding records, they built their tremendous stacks of stats without cherry-picking their opponents. The afore-mentioned pugilists fought everybody that was willing to step into the ring with them.

    Who was that other guy again? Oh yeah, Fraud "The mongoloid" Gayweather, The Greatest self Proclaiming Boxer Ever after Ali. The Man who belongs to a family of "Hustlers" (in Drugs, Gunfiring, Battering Woman, etc

  • r.a.w. 2 years ago

    All you boycotters are idiots. Why say "Boycott" when you could just shut up and not buy the fight? The thing is, you will all watch the fight. To you people, anything Mayweather is a must read. If you really like dislike the guy, don't read the articles that mention him and don't comment on them. Ignore all things Mayweather. But you can't ignore him because deep down you're all Mayweather fans!

  • asians 2 years ago

    I'm not that eager to see it in ppv.Just waiting for the outcome.I'm curious if he could handle granfather Mosley.Here in Asia Mayweather is not that popular as his fans think he is.He is popular only in the U.S not even the whole of America,nor europe,or Africa.Mayweather is bless that he was an American where people can buy ppv's but as a star power globally he's far to achieve such ability.He could gain more fans around the world if he face anyone standing in front of him and not cocenteating more on how much money can that opponent bring him on the table or how much risk will the fight be for him.

  • r.a.w. 2 years ago

    Das, you say they're the best because someone told you they were the best. They didn't cherry-pick? Name who they fought then. I guarantee you there are a bunch of scrubs in those lists of victories. But it doesn't really matter because it was a different era. You cannot say who is the best of all time, you can only debate who is the best of their own eras.

  • #1floydhater 2 years ago

    Schaefer is just insecure coz he and golden boy promotions will not be part of the blockbuster fight between Pacquiao and pussy boy mayweather.

  • LHS. JR. 2 years ago

    This fight will break all records of FLIES attending the event.If you still think this fight is interesting, hot, competetive, then you are a true blooded " sucker ".This fight is a farce, a fake, and a big " swindle " by the Mayweathers and GBP.

  • BROWNNOSE 2 years ago

    $54.95 for Boringweather? No,thanks.

  • NowayJose 2 years ago

    Not paying to watch this fight. It's scripted.

  • One Less...Ain't buying.. 2 years ago

    Wrong!!!it'll be 3,999,999 buys because it'll be one less. And that's me..ain't buying this con job. Ain't worth watching an old man mosely trying to catch a fhag---got runner like gayweather. I would rather play tag with my daughter...Next week for free..Paul Williams will KO blue eye sorry mutha..snapper Cintron. BIGGEST LOSER, "THE FANS". If it sell 1mPPV, then we have dumb Americans and that's why there broke...Moreso Mexicans who tends to be the biggest buyers in boxing!!Viva Dumb Latinos

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