Jared Taylor, current editor of the American Renaissance, denies the term "white nationalist" and explains why he is not a "white supremacist." But, what this established journalist claims, is that he is a "race realist." Taylor's views have become an important piece of the race relations puzzle, and can often be found in studies, essays, newspapers (including the Washington Post) and books. Taylor has been called everything from a racist to a "true paragon of tolerance." He takes a few moments to discuss with Jamie Hines what is a "race realist," why there is no need for the civil rights battle, and what he thinks of President Barack Obama.
JH: I've read that you describe yourself as a "race realist." What is a "race realist?"
JT: Race realism is rejection of the agreeable fantasies about race that have become orthodoxy since the 1960s. First, it is obvious that most people prefer the company of others of their own race. Forced integration therefore causes tension and resentment.
Second, race is an important element in individual and group identity, which means it is impossible to build a society in which race does not matter.
Third, people of different races build different societies. Blacks—wherever they are found in large numbers—establish communities with certain characteristics, and whites and others do the same.
Fourth, the combination of the first three factors means that racial diversity is a source of constant conflict. This is blindingly obvious, yet one of the requirements of respectability in this country is to pretend—and to repeat loudly at every opportunity—that diversity is a strength.
Fifth, the evidence is overwhelming that there is a substantial genetic contribution to well-established racial differences in average IQ. North East Asians living in America have higher incomes, better test scores, and more education than whites because they are, on average, smarter. Whites are smarter than Hispanics, who are smarter than blacks. It is vital to recognize this because otherwise “society” (meaning whites) is blamed for the failures of blacks and Hispanics.
Finally, race realism recognizes that whites have legitimate group interests just like everyone else.
JH: What are the legitimate group interests of whites?
JT: It is vital to eliminate the stark racial double standard that denies white even have legitimate interests as a group. White pride or racial consciousness is considered “bigotry” or “hatred,” while any other kind of racial consciousness is considered to be a healthy form of ethnic self-esteem. This means every group in the country—except whites—is constantly pushing its collective interests, while whites are not allowed even to have interests as a group, much less work for them.
Some of the interests of whites are obvious. The first is not to be reduced to a minority. Most whites don’t want this but they dare not say so for fear of being accused of “hate.” Hispanics, on the other hand, are constantly rejoicing in their increased numbers and influence, and it is considered natural for them to look forward to eventually become a majority. Their gain is our loss, so why are they allowed to be happy about their gain but we are not allowed to resist our loss?
Whites have every right to prefer the kind of society that they create and to resist demographic shifts that are already changing their country in profound ways. Jews have a right to a Jewish state, and they keep it Jewish through selective immigration. Japanese have a right to a Japanese state and they keep it that way through restrictive immigration. Whites also, whether in North America or Europe, have the right to live in nations that reflect their culture and heritage.
Second, what is known as “affirmative action” is really discrimination against whites. If the kinds of preferences shown to blacks or Hispanics were shown to whites it would be a nation scandal, but because the victims are whites (and sometimes Asians) it is of no consequence. Whites must work to eliminate this while it is still possible to do so. When non-whites become majorities, they are likely to push for even more extensive racial preferences than the ones they enjoy today.
JH: Do you consider yourself a White Nationalist and/or a White Supremacist? Why or Why not?
JT: No. I don’t know what the term white nationalist is supposed to mean. White supremacists presumably want to rule other races, and race realists have no such desire. I believe people of every race should be free to pursue their own destinies, and this is impossible in societies in which they become minorities.
It should not be necessary to add that a concern for one’s own interests implies no hostility to others. Race realists understand that people of all races have the same rights: to preserve their culture and identity against any force that would dilute or replace it. One’s race is one’s extended family. Putting the interests of family before the interests of strangers is not hostility to strangers. One can become good friends with strangers but family comes first.
JH: After doing some research, I've found that your parents were "conventional liberals" who were missionaries in Japan. At what point, and why, did your views shift from what you seen at a younger age?
JT: I, too, was a conventional liberal until I was in my 30s. I preferred being a liberal. Liberals are happy to consider themselves morally superior to conservatives (and certainly to anyone who could be called a “racist,” whatever that means). Also, liberalism is the driving, majority ethos of the United States, and it is more comfortable to agree with the majority. I clung desperately to liberalism. It was the study of history and economics as well as extensive travel in Europe and Africa that finally ground away my liberal illusions.
JH: How do you feel about the election of the first black President?
JT: It was bound to happen eventually, given the collapse of the white majority. Until 1965, we had an immigration policy designed to keep the country majority white. Since that time, the white percentage has declined from about 88 percent to perhaps 62 percent. Do not forget: 55 percent of whites voted for Mr. Obama’s opponent. Twenty years ago, any candidate who got 55 percent of the white vote became president. Now, a majority of whites can vote for a candidate but his opponent may win. In this sense, because of demographic change, you could say that whites did not get the president they wanted. Why should whites encourage that kind of change?
As for Mr. Obama, he encourages the population shifts that are displacing whites. He has sued a state that simply wants to enforce the duly established immigration laws that the federal government refuses to enforce. He wants to give amnesty to 12 million illegal immigrants, most of whom are non-white. In these respects, he is probably not much different from his main Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton. However, even she would not have ordered the Justice Department to drop its voter-intimidation case against the New Black Panthers. This sort of thing is alienating whites.
JH: Describe the current state of race relations in America.
JT: Race is, and always will be, a serious social fault line in this country. Relative peace is maintained because whites tolerate “affirmative action” and massive non-white immigration. They do this because they are browbeaten and bamboozled into thinking it is wrong for whites to act in their own interests. This will not always be the case, and race relations will get worse as more and more whites begin to resist dispossession.
JH: What are your thoughts about people who say, "race doesn't matter?"
JT: They are fools. Race obviously matters. Ninety percent of the churches in the United States are at least 80 percent one race. Is that an accident? Residential segregation is not much different from patterns in the 1950s. Why is that? The NAACP, the Urban League, the Congressional Black Congress, the National Council of La Raza, the League of United Latin American Citizens (LULAC), and literally thousands of other groups and associations are based deliberately and specifically on race. Try telling their members race doesn’t matter.
It is almost exclusively white people who say race doesn’t matter, and this is because they are the only people who are required at least to pretend that it doesn’t matter. This, in turn, is because they are not allowed to have explicit racial interests of their own, and must deliberately close their eyes to the racial chauvinism of others lest they acknowledge this anti-white double standard.
JH: Do you believe that there is a need to fight for civil rights in America?
JT: What do you mean by “civil rights”? People of all races have the same legal rights in the United States, so the “civil rights” struggle was won long ago. Many blacks and Hispanics seem to think racial preferences for themselves are “civil rights” but they are actually a power grab at the expense of whites.
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Even this guy! Someone should tell him about "white privilege."
Couldn't of said it better. He is 100% right. And whites are finally getting feed up with all the African (they can't even call themselves Americans first) racism going on in this country.
Irish-Dutch-French-German-American
Anything less is racism (:
Seema,
You mean the privilege of working hard for 12 years, getting A+ grades, then not get into the school you worked so hard to get into because a black person who didn't get B grades is allowed to steal your position just because of racial profiling? Or the job you worked so hard to get is lost to a black, because they don't have any that could earn it on their own, so they get a free ride because of racial profiling? That privilege? You're one of the spineless whites that allow racism.
What the democrats did.
Affirmative Action, this is racial profiling in a nut shell.
What the democrats did was take a second class citizen. And yes blacks were treated as second class citizens. Which is 100% against our Constitution and our way of life. And should never be tolerated in this country. But the democrats took this second class people and un-American, un-democratically, and most importantly ... un-constitutionally, made them above first class citizens, with special rights, benefits, and special privilege when it comes to education and employment. And, making whites second class citizens in the interim.
For real Civil Rights in this country, we need to make all citizens first class citizens, regardless of race. All the democrats did was flip-flop the problem. But, what do you expect from children?
BTW ... some facts, not racism. He was Wrong on one issue.
"than whites because they are, on average, smarter."
An obvious mistake since they spend so much more time studying today. Like we did when conservatives controlled our public schools. But the truth is in the facts. Almost all great inventions throughout time, that serve man today, have been invented by Euro-Americans, not Asians.
Facts are facts.
Test scores have no prevalence in the matter.
I agree 100%. Liberalism and "The Strength of Diversity" are nothing more than ridiculous utopian ideals that will never work.
An excellent interview. Jared Taylor is no racist -- these views are just common sense.
He can lick Robert E. Lee's ass for all I am concerned about him!
White people largely agree with Mr. Taylor. However, many White people are deathly afraid of being called "racist." "Racist" is just a term used to make White people shut up, and its used when a liberal is losing a debate.
If you want to see racism, look at La Raza (translation: "the race"), the New Black Panthers ("kill White babies"), and the NAACP (exists solely to help black people, and recently had a speech leaked wherein a USDA official admitted to denying help to a White farmer because he was White).
White people have a right to exist, and Whites are being displaced each generation by highly fertile immigrants and non-White citizens. This is White genocide.
I agree with Citizen. If anyone is being oppressed, it is White people. Non-Whites get affirmative action, welfare, Section 8 housing, free health care, special protections under the law, special scholarships.
Meanwhile, my taxes go to support illegal immigrants, Section 8 housing that DESTROYED my previous neighborhood, and to fund the Department of "Justice" which is now SUING ARIZONA FOR ENFORCING IMMIGRATION LAW!
In my opinion, Barack Obama is viciously racist against White Americans, because he wants to replace Whites through a blanket amnesty, which will push the non-White population through the roof, guaranteeing a Democratic majority and destroying White people's civil and social rights. I agree with Citizen-- that sounds like systematic genocide to me-- the destruction of White people IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY THEY BUILT!
Told ya Jamie.
White people are getting fed up with having our rights taken from us. So, Africans have to get off their high horse and see that they do not own American civil rights.
Well Northern Europeans IQ's are actually higher than Europe in general but I do think that East Asians have higher IQ's but are not as creative as Europeans. Examples: Television, Vehicles, Cameras, ect. all invented by whites but improved by asians.
Kel,
Exactly what the left has indoctrinated you into believing. To name a small few ... Newton, Aristotle, Einstein, Da Vinci, Galileo, Archimedes, Edison, Kepler, Bell, Nipkow, Fleming, and that is a very short list. They were great thinkers, not just creative. Anyone can improve on old ideas.
@Seema,
If whites have any privileges, it is because we, over the course of many generations, have built up our civilization(s) so that our children have it better off than our parents or we ourselves had it. This process and its motivations are natural and healthy.
Jared Taylor is spot on. He conveys the attitudes rightly held by many whites, and does so in a professional and articulate manner.
I agree with Citizen. If anyone is being oppressed, it is White people. Non-Whites get affirmative action, welfare, Section 8 housing, free health care, special protections under the law, special scholarships.
Meanwhile, my taxes go to support illegal immigrants, Section 8 housing that DESTROYED my previous neighborhood, and to fund the Department of "Justice" which is now SUING ARIZONA FOR ENFORCING IMMIGRATION LAW!
In my opinion, Barack Obama is viciously racist against White Americans, because he wants to replace Whites through a blanket amnesty, which will push the non-White population through the roof, guaranteeing a Democratic majority and destroying White people's civil and social rights. I agree with Citizen-- that sounds like systematic genocide to me-- the destruction of White people IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY THEY BUILT!
As a White Race Realist, I can't help but noticing that black men like to make babies with many different unmarried black women, and then abandon everybody.
Why should I have any obligation to a race that has that behavior as its dominant cultural characteristic?
Black behavior and criminality not only absolve White Humanity from any race guilt or obligation to the blacks, but also vindicates the American Colonization Society and
Jim Crow Segregation.
Transcend Diversity and Embrace White Privilege!
I refuse to atone for the sins of segregation by holding myself accountable to people of color for my unearned White Privilege. As long as I'm racially profiled through Affirmative Action, I will do nothing for blacks but resent them.
America is headed toward a DAY OF RACIAL RECKOING, and this time, we won't give it all away.
This is a great article and I respect the fact that the journalist Jamie Hines did not attempt to put any spin on this. In my opinion, these comments are all just common sense but luckily they are coming out to the forefront more and more now and even the most naive or people are beginning to acknowledge them. Jared Taylor is a fantastic speaker and says things that pretty well every White person I know says in private conversation. It's time to deal with the current anti-White racism pervading our society.
You people have no idea how much the average White college student rejects "Diversity is Our Strength". If you could hear what White girls say about the black sistas behind their backs, you would put every single White person in jail and torture us until we all confess to our "unacknowledged racism".
Whites don't like blacks because we find nothing about them to like. They are loud, obnoxious, and follow a separate moral code. They have their own culture, and we abhor it. We listen to classical European music at night just to clear our heads from all the ghetto rap that surrounds us. We actually talk about why being racists is the best option given what we see of the blacks on campus.
We also get together in our dorm rooms and look at White Supremacist websites and agree that it all makes sense. If our professors knew what we really believe, we'd be kicke dout of school and our careers would be ruined.
Jared Taylor wrote that "College is where you go to learn how t
Finally a White man that speaks his mind in public! Believe me when I say that most of the White population thinks exactly as Mr. Taylor does. However, Whites are afraid to say anything critical of other races or anything resembling White pride lest they be called "racist", as other posters have pointed out.
In my humble opinion, "racist" doesn't mean anything.
I 100% support Arizona's law, and I fully support any state that passes a similar law. Obama is committing TREASON by holding the citizens hostage so that he can entertain FOREIGN ALIENS becoming "citizens" through MASSIVE AMNESTY! I repeat, that is TREASON: betraying the citizens at the expense of a foreign power. Wake up, America-- Obama wants to replace Whites as the majority, and he's well on his way to doing so!
I have never heard someone describe these policies as "White genocide" but it all makes sense now! Legal immigration for non-Whites, illegal invaders from Mexico, welfare, Section 8, Affirmative Acti
Jared Taylor wrote that "College is where you go to learn how to think and talk correctly about blacks, and then graduate and make enough money so you can live as far away from them as possible."
We are White and we agree! But soon, Whites will be able to speak their minds without consequence. We hate our professors.
I am from Russia and my parents came here with no money, no education. These blacks in America are insane. They have so lucky but they complain always! My family never used welfare. I was White so I do not get scholarship, but all the blacks get scholarship, but my scores (SAT and MCAT) and grades (3.7) are much high than all of them that I know! That is injustice.
I believe it was Marten Luther King who said "judge character" but blacks in America want to be judged by skin. Like, "I am black, give me free welfare and lots of scholarships."
I see black people and black culture in my city. Judging character, I think blacks have bad character. I see them hit their women, I see them leave the women with kids, the kids join gangs, they steal a lot, and there is much much murder!
I have another question: why blacks complain so much about the "N-word". I hear blacks call blacks the N-word every single day, but it is supposed to be an evil word?
re: Yuri Semenov... LOL you are so right! Sometimes it takes an outsider's view to see the hypocrisy and ridiculous aspects of American life. If blacks weren't in America, getting free welfare, special affirmative action jobs, food stamps, etc. they would be in Africa fighting off AIDS, dysentery, malaria, and living in mud huts with no modern technology.
I have friends that are from Ghana, first generation America. They HATE black Americans because they realize how spoiled and ignorant they are! The Ghana people study really hard and are so thankful, then they see these black Americans on the corner drinking 40s and having eight kids, all on welfare! Ridiculous.
Yuri, I feel for you. White people do get the shaft when it comes to scholarships. Scholarships should be based on WEALTH, not RACE. Smart poor people should get a chance, not unqualified black people. Look at how many blacks fail the Bar Exam and Medical Boards- they hit reality after their affirmative actio
I'm not sure how any human with a functioing brain can disagree with a single word that this man says!
"Relative peace is maintained because whites tolerate “affirmative action” and massive non-white immigration. They do this because they are browbeaten and bamboozled into thinking it is wrong for whites to act in their own interests. This will not always be the case, and race relations will get worse as more and more whites begin to resist dispossession."
I used to think this could never happen but the last few years makes me think it could. Obama is indeed focusing whites on the issue of race.
Jared Taylor was labeled by some leftist as "The Most Dangerous Man in America". Here you see why -- he tells the truths that have become forbidden here in the "free" United States.
Excellent article! Jared Taylor makes perfect sense. Very good questions from Jamie Hines; good, fair reporter!
Kudos to the Examiner for publishing this interview.
The left-leaning media (and academia) have been no friend to Whites, instead preferring to vilify, mock and impugn us Whites as Nazis, genocidal colonists, bigots, racists and haters- ALL of us-without presenting OUR side or allowing us to refute or rebut specious accusations. Our views are shouted down
We are discriminated against in the workplace, passed over for promotions, and denied scholarships and college admissions in favor of non-Whites with lesser qualifications.
Just ask those White New Haven firefighters who had to fight all the way to the Supreme Court to seek justice after their test scores were thrown out and they were denied promotions because of 'disparate impact.'
It's past time we Whites had someone to speak up for our rights, just as is allowed every other race/ethnic group in the United States.
And as M. Taylor states so articulately: People who say 'Race Doesn't Matter!' are fools.
Bon of Bab
When you can't refute your opponents position, resort to name-calling and profanity. More than likely, US Grant is a typical white liberal that totally dismisses the points that Mr Taylor makes since they don't conform to the multicultural utopian ideology that has been hammered into his brain since grade school. For those like US Grant, diversity HAS TO be considered a strength because to deny it is to admit they've been bamboozled all along. Ask them to express EXACTLY what it is that makes diversity such a strength and they just can't do it. Empirical evidence has proven time and again that diversity not only is NOT a strength, but diversity is in fact a profound weakness wherever it has been attempted.
Too bad you delete views you don't agree with. I thought you were better then that Jamie.
Ya getting the gist Jamie? (: We whites are getting tired of how racist and privileged blacks are. the day is coming when Affirmative Action is nothing but bad history. So, you better advance yourselves as much as you can in the meantime, because it may be your last unearned advancements.
Government racism. Went to the VA. government website to pay my luxury tax of having a car. Stumbled on a page that helps people, well all but white males. The website said it will help woman and minorities. (:
Why not just say ... we ARE racist, and will help anyone but our more intelligent, more capable, and superior white male. (:
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In all fairness to Jamie, this is probably the most unbiased article I've read regarding Jared Taylor. Kudos to her for not allowing any disagreements she may have with Mr Taylor's views cloud her journalistic integrity.
Steve O, If Jamie were truly deleting any comments that were in agreement with Mr Taylor there wouldn't be 33 comments posted. She says she doesn't delete comments so how about keeping the conversation semi-civil. It reflects poorly on race realists when we level personal attacks on the one (a black lady, no less) that was fair enough to give Jared a forum to lay out his opinions free from censorship.
As a black female married to a white man, I must admit that there does seem to be some merit to Mr. Taylor's points. It certainly seems very logical. I assert that yes white people who want their race to stay white should most definitely associate with other whites and marry whites and have as many children as you can. But people who do choose to marry outside their race should also be allowed to as well.
Oops! My last comment was directed at Michael O.
I did use "Next". So it was an "Examiner Technicalities". I can accept that. To Mark M. Mind you own business and quit being pompous. I didn't lie and commented on it. And personally, I think Jamie is a sweet girl, misguided as she is in politics (: but I do believe, she believes ... in what she says, and isn't a hypocrite like so many on both sides.
Still gone. The first two comments posted. As well as a few others that were posted by other people. Says 35, but there aren't more then 20 showing.
I'd like to thank the author for being so courteous and fair to Mr. Taylor. I'm sure many people would call his responses "controversial," etc., but they are simply common sense. Whites are the only group that it is A-okay to criticize, ridicule, and discriminate against. Just watch TV and notice how many white males are portrayed as criminals or dumb doofuses, while minorities are hard-working and brilliant. You can't tell a joke about blacks or Mexicans in polite company, but "blonde" jokes and "redneck" jokes are just fine. Whites have been brainwashed that they must not act in their own racial interests, that they must shut up and turn the other cheek continually, but I do see little signs that my fellow whites are beginning to wake up. Articles like this, and the responses posted, do give me hope.
"I believe people of every race should be free to pursue their own destinies, and this is impossible in societies in which they become minorities." This implies that no minority group, nor any individual belonging to one, can pursue its destiny anywhere. Homogeneity may be easier, or even better, but once a society become mixed, it is impossible to "unmix" it, and its vitally important to figure out how to get along.
" Relative peace is maintained because whites tolerate “affirmative action” and massive non-white immigration." Peace is maintained because most whites live in overwhelmingly white neighborhoods, and work in majority white employees. The few blacks they run into regularly are often non-problematic or even likable. The system more or less works. What is threatening to break it down is the economic decline of the parts of America inhabited by the white working class, and the decline of the parts of America that lie ouside the fast growing, diverse metro areas.
I can't think of a single slur or demeaning word that is considered unacceptable to call white men and women. But "racist" will probably be the first. It's a word designed to intimidate and it's exclusively directed at whites. It is the very definition of an ethnic slur.
I'm afraid, there is no denying the necessity for secessation in the US at some point in time.
It's entirely unnatural to herd multi assortments of distinct and separate ethnicities into one living space and expect that territory to prosper and endure.
Because such unnatural actions mean mixing backward ethnicities with more advanced ethnicities, this quicky has the effect of holding back economic and technological progress and also results in the engendering of envy, hostility and aggression of one ethnicity against another perceived to be more <i>privileged</i> on account of ethnicity, than thou.
Take the state of Detroit, for example (and I'm referring to its current condition, by the way), it is clearly evident that the startling rapidity of infrastructural and economic decay was due to the relentless influx of non-Whites into that State causing the well publicised phenomenon of White flight.
It's a downright lie and racist slur to suggest working-class Whites are the
Thanks to the author for being so fair to Mr. Taylor!
Whites founded the United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and many states in South America. We do not deserve to be made a minority in our homelands. I would never wish such a thing on African or Asian nations.
On a side note, white identities seem up for grabs for everyone. I am tired of hearing words like "German Turk" or "Muslim frenchman". I speak fluent Turkish, lived in the country for a year, know plenty of their history. Does this make me a Turk?
I would assert that those countries you named were actually already in existence and "founded" by the indigenous people's in those countries. However, yes all European countries can definitely be said that they are founded by whites.
@mark
"once a society become mixed, it is impossible to "unmix" it, and its vitally important to figure out how to get along"
Taylor has pointed out several times that unmixing occurs periodically throughout history, and will continue to occur if mixing persists. It has taken different forms from state-sanctioned segregation to wholesale genocide. To avoid these tragic affairs, a society must stay homogeneous by all means necessary.
"What is threatening to break it down is the economic decline of the parts of America inhabited by the white working class, and the decline of the parts of America that lie ouside the fast growing, diverse metro areas."
I was always under the impression that it was rampant government spending and funding of failed projects (e.g. affirmative action). Still, you may have a point because despite the constant liberal appraisal of immigrant workers, it is the native white workers who are truly vital to economic survival.
I for one welcome the coming racial bloodletting. Not because I think it will benefit either side, but purely out of spite for the way whites have been treated for the last few decades.
The fact that I have this sentiment in the first place should tell you just how right Taylor is.
Mike there won't be any bloodletting. People aren't going to go out and start killing off other races. We need to make things right for everyone, and it can be done.
Michael O, people said the same thing in Germany between 1928 and 1938
I personally don't think most blacks would disagree that the answer to racial harmony is to establish autonomous segregated communities. We could still be friends, trade with each other, etc, but our communal interests would be protected from conflicting needs of different interest groups as well as removing the ability for one group to dominate over another within their own society. So long as we can keep racial imperialism out of the picture I think that is the best answer to our current problems, and aside from the inner cities I don't think it would be too hard to change North America to that level if most people were in favour of it.
self separation is the solution for the white people (or extinction )!!!
I'm stunned and pleased at this fair, even-handed interview given Jared Taylor by a mainstream media outlet in America. It's nearly a first. Is this the beginning of a trend? I don't think so. The evidence and lesson from Mandela's South Africa is clear and unequivocal. In a minority situation without power, Whites are persecuted, raped, murdered, and Genocided mercilessly. This is what is in store for Whites in America.
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