Anti-gun Seattle Mayor Mike McGinn admitted during an interview Friday night with Fox News’ Greta Van Susteren that “If someone is determined to come in (to a business) with a gun, decal or no decal, that’s going to happen.”
It was one of several acknowledgements McGinn made during a 7-minute, 19-second interview with Van Sustern during her “On the Record” program, which may be seen here.
McGinn also admitted that he would like to erode state preemption — the statute that prevented him from creating a “city state” of gun control in Seattle — so he would be allowed to “regulate” guns locally. Translate that to ban guns, as he is now encouraging businesses in the city to do with what gun rights activists are calling an “all flash, no substance” effort to create private gun free zones.
The Bellevue-based Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms, calls this discrimination and suggests that it’s a way for McGinn to get private businesses to do what he could not, in the courts or the Legislature.
“We have a state government that actually prevents me from banning guns in our parks and community centers,” he told Van Susteren.
That’s not quite accurate and McGinn knows it. The courts told McGinn he couldn’t do it, twice, once at trial in King County Superior Court and then unanimously at the State Court of Appeals. The case against McGinn — filed by CCRKBA, the Second Amendment Foundation, National Rifle Association, Washington Arms Collectors and five private citizens — was so solid that the State Supreme Court refused to hear Seattle’s appeal.
McGinn suggested that there is not much a business can really do to prevent an armed robbery, but that having the decals makes a statement that “We don’t like the proliferation of guns in our society.”
That’s a conversation the mayor should have with Andy Kochanski, the Milwaukee bar owner discussed by this column Thursday. He fatally shot a would-be armed robber several days ago, the second time he has traded gunfire with outlaws since 2008.
Kochanski, proprietor at the Concertina Beer Hall, spoke with Examiner via telephone Friday afternoon. He is “okay” in the wake of the fatal shooting, in which he has been cleared of any wrong doing — a clear case of self-defense — and he said in the aftermath, several people, including Milwaukee police officers, had offered to loan him a gun since the one he used is in the evidence locker and will stay there through the trial of the two other thugs involved in the fracas.
Tomorrow, the Concertina Beer Hall will host a concealed carry class that has already filled up. The course had been scheduled prior to the shootout.
Van Susteren, acknowledging that she is sometimes “a blockhead,” challenged McGinn to explain the logic behind the gun free zone decals noting that if any of the miscreants she had known during her legal practice had seen such a sign, it would have been like a green light invitation to rob the establishment.
McGinn’s response was that the decal was a means of preventing violence between customers who might have an argument that escalates into violence. He lamented about the shootings and murders Seattleites have seen, but compared to Milwaukee, the Jet City is a low-violence refuge. As this column noted the other day, Milwaukee has had more than 50 criminal homicides already this year, compared to less than a dozen in Seattle.
In the Seattle Weekly yesterday, McGinn spokesman Aaron Pickus seemed thrilled that his boss was heading into the usually-demonized-by-the-Left Fox News realm. The newspaper quoted him stating, “We saw it as an opportunity to stand up for Seattle’s values on gun control.”
A private e-mail to this column immediately following the interview had this to say: “Just saw him on Greta...Typical liberal politician to say the least and he doesn’t have a clue. Guess Seattle deserves what they vote for.” This suggests the gun free zone is backfiring with some people, as predicted.
But that’s how it is in the “zone of happy thoughts.”