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Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill. speaks during a meeting of Democratic governors, Friday, June 20, 2008, at the Chicago History Museum in Chicago Friday
WASHINGTON (Map, News) - After days of media mockery, Barack Obama has decided to stop using a presidential-looking seal that his campaign designed and affixed to his podium on Friday.
Journalists said the seal, which features an eagle clutching arrows and an olive branch, smacks of arrogance. John McCain's camp had a field day, calling the seal “laughable, ridiculous, preposterous and revealing - all at the same time.”
The seal was conspicuously missing from Obama's lectern when he spoke to a group of women in Albuquerque on Monday. Not surprising, given how much grief Obama took from a normally laudatory press corps after unveiling the seal at an appearance in Chicago on Friday.
“What a bizarre and dumb idea,” railed NBC political director Chuck Todd. “It really feeds the arrogance narrative.”
The oversized blue seal was emblazoned with the Latin phrase “Vero Possumus,” which roughly translates into “yes, we can.” It also featured a plug for the candidate's website.
“The Audacity of Hype,” cracked ABC's Jake Tapper. “No word on whether they played a remix of 'Hail to the Chief' as Obama walked in.”
Andrew Malcolm of the Los Angeles Times observed that Obama “has decided not to wait for any of the formalities like a presidential election, an inauguration or even a nomination, which he still hasn't actually officially won yet.”
Marc Ambinder of the Atlantic magazine was the first to note that Obama would deep-six the seal.
“I'm told that Obama recognizes that it was a silly mistake,” Ambinder said. “Does the press think Obama is arrogant? Yes.”
Larry Sabato, director of the University of Virginia's Center for Politics, said the episode reinforces this media perception of Obama.
“The press corps adopts a subtext for each candidate,” Sabato told The Examiner. “Daddy Bush was 'a nice guy but out of touch.' Bill Clinton was 'smart but randy.' Bob Dole was 'heroic but too old.' Gore was 'brilliant but a fibber and a bore.' Dubya was 'pleasant but dumb.'”
He added: “Obama's subtext is rapidly becoming 'charismatic but arrogant.'”
The Obama campaign declined to comment.
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beau said:
This type of arrogance, intentional or not is just not permissible from anyone wishing to enter the presidency. I have been exposed to cultures around the world both friend and foe, your image or the image that you want to project for the basis of control is critical. We are talking about cultures who will determine a man’s demeanor as a reason to attack or use caution. Obama’s mistakes of very subtle issues, underestimating Iran, Russia (trust me they are interlinked). Iran launching a rocket, Russia invading are jabs in a prize fight measuring the response and checking your opponent. Obama is not prepared for this, he has to little experience. Hey I like the guy he’ s can motivate large masses of people, but sadly he is just not ready yet.
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Central California Girl said:
We need to look at the whole picture here and not be so quick to judge Obama on the outward trappings. I believe that his Presidency will be the fresh breath of air we all need after 8 l-o-o-o-n-g years of lies and deceit. It seems interesting to me that people are nit-picking him on silly little points like a bad choice in a logo. Hey, I would rather have someone in the White House who is willing to take chances for change, even if it seems naive...than a die hard political cog in the rusty wheel of political rhetoric. Just my humble opinion. GObama '08
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Examiner Reader said:
Watch out for Obama. Ever hear of Deval? Mass was bad before but OMG look now. Obama is a snake in the grass with a pretty concealor. People who vote straight Dem and not the reasons are going to pay in the long run.
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Examiner Reader said:
If nobody made a stink he'd still be using the seal as if it was his right to do so. He's rightious and arrogant.
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Examiner Reader said:
secateurs --- I am the lady who posted about Indonesia - I agree with you completely. I am not disturbed that he lived in Indonesia, but I am disturbed that he acts indifferent to the influence. Most main stream Muslims in Indonesia are deeply kind people. So His distancing himself makes me question him more.Why is he Distancing himself from his Reverend? Again he asks us to believe that even though he attended church for 20 years it did not influence him..... So why did he go? He certainly does not strike me as a stupid man, but he wants us to believe that none of these things affected him in any manner.... That bothers me.
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nathaniel said:
OH Man now hes changing the white house now. i think it was a preety stupid seal, it even has the words in latin "yes we can!" if youre going to run a campaign do it with some dignity.
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Examiner Reader said:
Here are the reasons Obama has LOST MY VOTE : 1. Does not support Single Payer Health Care 2. He will not get us out of this war 3. His refusal to accept Federal money for his campaign 4. Too many flip flops to mention As a long time Democrat, I'm deeply saddened as I see the Democrats meld with the Republicans.
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Examiner Reader said:
What's next-showing up at events wearing a uniform? of his own design?
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Nate said:
This is a horrible campaign mistake for Barrak Obama me being a conservative uncertain if I should even vote.....I'm not saying John McCain is bad ,or anything ,but he is WAY TOO liberal for my conservative taste.....,so assuming is the wrong way to go I've lost the very little respect I had for Obama I'll end the comment with saying we all know that when you assume you make an *** out of yourself!!!!!
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secateurs said:
I am happy to be on the side of folks who can write about "Professor Hydrofoil" and "all the guy needs is a cape" and the varied translations of "vero possumus." Intelligent humor is droll, abstract, joyful, funny, punny, and clever. Conversely, the Barry Obama supporters have a hard time getting content right, let alone context, and notions that are abstract or nuanced are impossible for them to comprehend. Note that when I wrote about BO being “new” to these shores, Flocko translated that to mean not being born in America. [Where did he get that idea?] Then, a reader made the point that the Muslim culture is pervasive in Indonesia and Flocko jumpted to “Islamic extremism.” Flocko changed "stepfather" to "father" and then denied his influence. [why else did he go to mosque for four years?] Then he asked if I denied writing what I wrote (as if!). He then quoted from wiki [as if that is a reliable source]. He also calls counter-arguments “attacks.” He denies that De
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Annie said:
Meanwhile, Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice, inconsolable after losing her dream job of NFL Commissioner to Roger Goodell reluctanty accepts the position of Commissioner of Major League Baseball, sending that idiot Bud Selig back to Many-Soda where his talents are more appreciated.
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Annie said:
I hereby predict that the 2008 presidential election will end in a tie because of one hanging chad in Plam Beach County, FL; thereby throwing the election into the House. The vote will here end in another tie because of the absence of Barney Frank who is romancing a male page. The Senate vote then will end in a tie because of the absence of Senator Kennedy, who thinks that it's gotta be spring break somewhere. Scratching their collective heads, the 9 members of the Roberts court all agree that they want nothing to do with this political hot potato and decree that the election will finally be decided by a UFC-style MMA match at the MGM Grand Garden Arena on July 4, 2009. Meanwhile, in another part of town, President Bush continues to fill in as the "acting POTUS" until the outcome of the election. To be continued...
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Chris - Alaska said:
NObama08! NObama acts like a spoiled rich brat! Does/says what he wants, when he wants. Can besmirch ANYONE, at ANYTIME. But anyone who dares to reply, or correct him is a RACIST!! As a retired LEO & Military Vet, I find him to be a disgrace. This FREEloading, carpetbagging kid, has ONLY 16 months experience as a US Senator, before declaring his candidacy. And thinks OUR country "OWES" him, the Presidency of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! Because he is black! Walter Williams is a true "Blackman", and would make a great President. But Walter doesnt think he is owed the job, because of skin color! NObama has NO respect for our FLAG, our NATIONAL ANTHEM, or CONSTITUTION. And is making a mockery, out of the Presidential Seal. What is next?? The media has in in the tank, and lets him get away with it. WAKE UP FOLKS!! I am not happy with McCain. But I know he will SUPPORT our military/country, and FIGHT terrorism! Not COW DOWN! NObama08! Take care, be safe. God Bless Chris - Alaska
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Examiner Reader said:
Americans would be wise to look at Obama very closely and carefully. Considering his lack of experience and other drawbacks, it would be a tragedy for our country to rush to support him just for his good manners, good looks, and deep and resonant speaking voice. A fluent speech-maker does not a president make. As a Texan, I can tell you that W is not dumb. Far from it. One can't be "dumb" and run a state like Texas. It is only provincial Easterners who are so self-centered that they label him thus, failing to even check into what he has done to make him quite smart. Provincial people, who have never been west of the Mississippi confuse a southern accent with being dumb. Been there and done that. I'm back in Texas, drawl and all, leading the life of an educated person, smart,but not brilliant.
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Examiner Reader said:
I think the man is a phony bologna clown who has courted the "college" liberal minded kids to think he is the savior of all times, the blacks and Hispanics will follow..Birds of a feather flock together !! They have all been brained washed to think there is no God and the holocaust never happened also in our college and universities , Obama is praying on their weak minds like a sponge soaks water! !! They are all idiots !! This man is a disgrace to the human race !! If he thinks so damn much of the third world countries why doesn't he go there and run for president????? Get out of this country !!!c
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Examiner Reader said:
GO OBAMA! As a Hillary supporter, I don't see him as arrogant. He's the best chance we have to cleaning up the mess of Dubya! I don't like the seal either, but give me some more of that kool aide cuz the world is about to see just how we do it in 2009! We talk to our enemies, we help our poor, we punish the criminals but give them a second chance, we honor our vets and we hold one another accountable. God bless the USA...if McCain magically gets into the White House (think about how Bush got it both times), we're gonna need all the prayer we can get.
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Examiner Reader said:
Obama supporters are drinking the same laced koolaide. I told my friends he was too arrogant and ambitious, but they have accused me of being a traitor from Illinois. This man is wearing the "Joker" mask. So, they want change from this man? He's not the one! Discerner
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Examiner Reader said:
First off I am a Ron Paul supporter. Second.. Look...he did not create the seal design his campaign staff did or hired someone to do it. Politicians rarely have a creative bone in their body. Sure the seal is arrogant and presumptuous but it does not mean he is. These candidates often pay big money for these "experts" and if someone who hired experts to make decisions and if a candidate keeps putting his input he is defeating the purpose and risking alienating his staff who should if their good know what they're doing. So candidates often leave it up to their staff and "experts" they pay good money for to do a good job. And sometimes they do not. I personally do not think it is fair to call Obama arrogant on the basis of this seal which I doubt he took the time to design. I mean for all we know this could have been campaign sabotage via a mole from McCain's people (which McCain might not even have knowledge of either).
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Annie said:
'Vero Possumus is either an incorrectly used ablative absolute [or it could be a dative of indirect discourse] meaning "We have met the enemy and he is us," as quoted by another famous possum, Pogo.
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Examiner Reader said:
If Barry Hussein Obama wanted to steal the symbol to use as his own, why didn't he just out a picture od Dumbo The Elephant in the center of the seal?
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Examiner Reader said:
It is scary to think about Obama's masterful skill of charisma. Do we really know the man. American voters - WAKE UP!!! There's a wold in the hen house!
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Barry King said:
Before long, we will be told we can not talk about this either. This man is dangerous. This just goes to show the arrogance of the Democratic Party. I can not believe people can not read through the lines.
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Thadeus Mulchbottom said:
Professor Hiram Hydrofoil of the Department of Classical Languages assures me that the proper Latin translation of "Vero Possumus" is: Vern has a Possum. If the Latin is in the singular Ablative transitive distrimulative tense, then it would mean: Be True to Your Possum.
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Examiner Reader said:
Take away his tela prompters and 30 minutes polished speeches and you got nothing but a man in a suit looking for a job.
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Examiner Reader said:
Hey Obama, you have to earn the seal to use the seal! This is like a college flunkie writing down on an application that he/she earned a degree at Harvard. This is also like a doctor practicing without ever going to college. Where do you get the nerve to hoist a seal in front of yourself?
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Examiner Reader said:
"Charismatic but arrogant" sounds like the personality of a third world dictator.
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Examiner Reader said:
I am now a "former" Obama supporter! I am sick of his bad judgments. First, to remain a member of a racist church. Now, to use arrogant methods to try to persuade others to his side. Obama, I can smell a rat! This American voter is going to now vote for mcCain, old but honest!
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Examiner Reader said:
I've always believed our country could survive 4 or 8 years of a bad President; we have in the past. The name Carter comes to mind. But I fear this man, lacking in all aspects, may move us well on the road to becoming a third world country.
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Examiner Reader said:
Saint Barak is the post-racist post turtle!! Everything is starting to make sense now!!! hahaha...
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Examiner Reader said:
He's thinking of bagging the Constitution next. Drill for Oil! BIG Government scares me much more than Big Oil.
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Always Helpful said:
For those whose Latin is a little weak, it might translate as; Vera has a Possum.
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Examiner Reader said:
The Audacity of Dope....if you added the IQ's of all the people he surrounds himself with, I think we'd still be in double digits. What a childish idea!
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Examiner Reader said:
I’m convinced now that neither party had a quality candidate so they tossed in Obama on one side and McCain from the other side hoping the other party wins so the blame game can continue.
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Examiner Reader said:
I always knew Saint Barak was not that bright, now I question the intelligence of his handlers.
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Examiner Reader said:
The "Seal" looks like a First Grade art project made with glue and pasta.
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Examiner Reader said:
All Obama needed to complete the picture was a cape.
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Examiner Reader said:
Dangerous man.
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Examiner Reader said:
His Mother is white...his Father is black. How does that make him Black. Instead of identifying with the white Mother and Grandmother who raised him, he identifies with the black father who abandomed the family. "Typical Black person"...
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Examiner Reader said:
stupid to change symbols of historical significance by novice candidate for nations presidential identifying label period...particulary by this novice questionable candidate, even if supported by pelosi and reid...come on
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Examiner Reader said:
With each example like this seal stuff, the public will see what a dumb choice the democrats made.
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Examiner Reader said:
Carter is praying like a mad man that Bam Bam gets elected. That way the crown for the the most moronic POTUS in History is taken off his head!
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Examiner Reader said:
Arrogant liar and racist. But man can he talk! Mind you he says nothing of substance but he sure can sound good doing it.
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Examiner Reader said:
Arrogant Elitist comes to mind... The saddest thing about the seal, is it's all crooked, how amateur for a guy running for president... I'm already getting sick of him, imagine 4 years of the guy, at least everybody's been used to McCain for the last 20 years, we know what he's goona say and do.
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Examiner Reader said:
EGO, Party of One!
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Examiner Reader said:
the seal itself has an amatuerish look to it and does not at all look like a logo for a man running for president of the USA. what I fear most about Obama is that he is symbol, not a viable candidate. If voters aren't careful they're going to elect a perception then will later be hit with a very bitter reality. This is what
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Examiner Reader said:
He cannot be trusted!
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This is only the tip of the iceberg...
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Previewing History said:
Stealing the Seal of the President and putting the Obama 'logo' into the center of the eagle instead of the 'shield' of the American Flag is quite disturbing. Obama obviously thinks it's OK to steal an icon and make it his without any qualms. Arrogance is not the word — it's theft. I guess people in Washington are used to stealing what belongs to 'the people', so they think it's OK. Change we can believe in? No, oh, but maybe he will steal more from us (rights, free speech, money via taxes, etc.) than anyone before.
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flockoseagulls said:
Are you saying that you witnessed Islamic extremism in mainstream Indonesian culture? Do you, like others on this board, think that mainstream Muslims are dangerous? It is way to late to continue arguing here. Maybe we can continue tomorrow...I will check back. Have a good night. And if you want a last word, I will keep an eye out for a few minutes!
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Examiner Reader said:
Ok I'll take your word for it. He must have been to stupid to notice the summons to prayers and the prayers broadcast over loudspeakers that are prevalent there. He must have been blind to everything around him while he was being a good christian.
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