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Hampden bar owners said they were shocked last week when police began warning patrons to move 150 feet away from the entrance of bars they were patronizing or face loitering charges.
“Loitering has always been a legitimate problem in the neighborhood that we couldn’t get police to deal with,” said Benn Ray, owner of Atomic Books and head of the Hampden Village Merchants Association.
“So why all of sudden is the Police Department being aggressive with smokers when they haven’t been enforcing loitering laws for 10 years?”
Ray said drug addicts, prostitutes and even dealers can be seen prowling the area around his store on the main drag in Hampden.
But despite requests for additional officers and foot patrols in one of the city’s most vibrant shopping districts, Ray said police have pursued smokers.
“Harassing customers who are smoking creates a dysfunctional relationship with the community.”
At Frazier’s, a popular Hampden hangout, day manager Tabrina Sherman said the message police gave to patrons smoking outside her bar was clear.
“They were told they need to move 150 feet away or they will be fined first and arrested the second time.”
City officials said enforcing loitering laws has grown trickier since the statewide smoking ban went into effect Feb. 1.
“Particularly in front of bars where there have been a history of problems, we have asked patrols to be aggressive to enforce the loitering laws; however, the smoking ban changes the dynamic,” said Sterling Clifford, spokesman for the Police Department.
“This is an unintended consequence of two well-intentioned laws.”
But Geli Ioannou, owner of Zissimos, a few blocks west of Fraziers’, said targeting his patrons does not make sense.
“First the state raises taxes, and then we have a smoking ban, and now I have to deal with this,” said Ioannou standing outside his bar as a customer took a midafternoon smoke break.
“It makes no sense to harass my customers and ignore drug addicts and prostitutes.”
sjanis@baltimoreexaminer.com



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A giraffe dies said:
7:30 PM MST on Fri., Mar. 7 - What are you talking about? Cops are always on these pages defending crimes committed by cops and writing about wanting to "bash" everyone they feel is a "dirtbag" like they are some kind of judge, jury and executioner. According to the opinions of cops I read in the Examiner, they are never wrong, it's always the other guy's fault whether it be a 14 year old kid on a skateboard or some guy turned around and walking away. If cops weren't abusing their power and committing crimes, the Examiner would not be able to write about it.
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Examiner Reader said:
No one to blame but yourselves for electing the state official that you have.
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Examiner Reader said:
Last night was a nightmare trying to walk down the sidewalk.... Crowded with people smoking and drinking in front of Local bars... Just wait till summer, I'm sure there will be a shooting because of this.. Thanks you Mr. Omalley..
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Examiner Reader said:
Another cop bashing article by the Examiner with only one supposed witness. The Examiner is totally anti police and it's police related articles are always one sided.....why? Because the police don't waste their time responding. 99% of the cops are out there doing good things, and you will NEVER hear about them because they just do their job. The Examiner hasn't written a positive article on the police since it's start. The Examiner simply writes anti police articles to incite public anger, which in turn makes people read, and ultimately pays their salaries. Don't believe the hype, it isn't credible.
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The Undertaker said:
An easier way to deal with the loitering problem. Bar owners should provide smokers with tasers to zap the cops when they come to harass them.
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Examiner Reader said:
easy way to stop the loitering problem, make everyone pay the bar owner a penny when they come in, sign a document of ownership and become a part owner of the bar, that way they can stand outside their property and smoke and the police can't do a Damn thing about it.
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Examiner Reader said:
I work near Zissamos. Its a dump. I can't go down the street to get a soda without coming back reeking of smoke (and chicken grease, but that's from the Farm Store). Problem is, when the smokers move, they stand in front of the other businesses, like stores and banks and offices, so the rest of us have to walk through it anyway. So why bother? Let 'em smoke inside so I don't have to smell it.
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Etek said:
Sounds like San Francisco. You WILL get arrested for smoking a cigarette in the wrong place but smoking Weed seems OK, at least on the street. Well, you CAN get a Ticket for smoking weed or dare I say, fellating your 'Butt Buddy' in public but the S.F. powers that be look at drug use and Homosexual acts in public to be 'Freedom of expression'. See what voting for Socialists er Democrats get you? Welcome to the 'Peoples Republic of Maryland'.
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Examiner Reader said:
Clearly, solving a non-existent loitering problem and harrassing clientele of local area bars is largely more fulfilling at the end of the night than the ability to do NOTHING about drug dealers, murderers and rapists. Understandably, cops are frustrated at the lack of kudos they are getting for solving big crime in B'more and judges who keep letting criminals WALK. This is not the answer. The Mod Squad needs to calm down and kindly, POLITELY, ask folks if they're just standing around, and not part of the establishment, they need to move on. 'Nuf said. Get a life.
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Examiner Reader said:
it was indoor smoking you passed off on the public that worked on maybe 60% of them......but you lost the argument and even the war when you went after outdoor smoking, how can outdoor smoking be harmful to anyone........it cant be and even the masses get that. But not you guys you come up with even more crazy studies that a 5th grade science student could debate you out of.........Right now you have the political muscle since nov 06.. but please keep up your attacks on the people their rights and by all means keep the insanity of your bleeding heart socialist agenda flowing its the best argument yet for conservatives to win big again.......
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Examiner Reader said:
the leftwing progressives that have lied conived and ripped off the american public about the environment, second hand smoke and all the other trash you leftwingers pass off as facts. Get with the program the lies about SHS are being exposed and the public is becomming outraged at the attacks on their liberty,freedom and rights.....its not about smoking it never was,its about control and how you can manipulate people and make them do what you want them to do.......I applaude the progressives on their ability to get people to hate smokers and even fear fireplace smoke using the same propaganda as you did on second hand smoke...... As all thngs the progressive liberals do...they go to far and reach for the insane and thats where they are at now.....insanity has reached their core and they are pushing the rediculous.....banning outdoor smoking, come on not even a dip retarded kid would believe that line.........you see thats where you lost your MORAL crusade on smoking......it was indoo
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Examiner Reader said:
Define loitering. If you're walking up and down while smoking if this a crime?. If not, walk around the block or just keep in motion.
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A giraffe dies said:
Nearly 300 murders in Baltimore city last year, prostitutes and drug dealers not just in the "hood", but also in Fells Point and other "upscale" neighborhoods, gangs roaming the malls, teens riding wheelies on dirtbikes down the street during mid-day rush hour traffic; Where's the police? They are harrassing rascally smokers kicked out of bars by the anti-smoking law, assaulting 14 year old boys in the inner harbor for, gasp, skateboarding, shooting unarmed people in the back at strip malls, writing traffic tickets at speed traps and time restricted areas (ie. no turn during 7 and 9 pm). Only 14 murders in Baltimore last month, and it was a leap year month, WooHoo!! Baltimore, my heart cries for you. I'm sorry I live here.
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johnny o said:
What a joke! I haven't smoked in 35 years. I hate smoke. What's happening???? You can't even smoke on the outside? If a person wants to smoke let him smoke. Stay away from him.
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Examiner Reader said:
With all the crime, murders, robberies,etc. in Baltimore City, I can't believe the police are harassing people smoking outside of a bar. Am I in America? When they ban chocolate, I'm out of here.
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Examiner Reader said:
I don't even smoke, and I think the fines are ridiculous! I'm sure all of these 150 feet fines will cease in the near future, especially if no one is really complaining about the smokers.
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Teacher said:
Not unintended con-seequence of a do-goooder law, deletes the law. We will find many more butts in the gutter that they created for them selfish selves.
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Examiner Reader said:
This is an unintended consequence of a do-gooderlaw. Always happens. Zissimos will close, and the City will sink a little deeper into the sewer it has created for itself.
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Teacher said:
Extended stay, didn't you hear? Keep up!
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City Resident said:
wait, did 9:33 just tell liberals to stay out of their personal life? ohhhhh, they must not be gay!
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City Resident said:
hey O'Malley's a Joke: He's not the mayor anymore!! or didnt you hear?
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African American Woman said:
If you can't smoke inside or outside the bar, club or returant than why go. People should spend their money where they are welcomed, Maryland is becoming a very unwelcoming state. It's to many other states close by to be botherd.
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Examiner Reader said:
Law Student said we need to delete some laws. I have always wanted a law that stated if you pass a law you also need to find one to repeal.
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Examiner Reader said:
If those smokers would just act like the prostitutes or drug dealers, the cops would leave them alone.
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Examiner Reader said:
First, you can't smoke inside, then you can't smoke outside. You know what is coming next...
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Law Student said:
Too many laws. We need to delete some.
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O'Malley's a JOKE. said:
Amazing, the city says that "only" 14 murders in February is "progress." Drug Lords running rampant, drugs easily sold on just about every street corner and the Baltimore City police are harassing smokers standing in front of an establishment that welcomes them? Just another example of our rights and freedoms being taken away one by one.
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Law Student said:
Who will pay these frivilous attorney bills and patrons ofr lung and spinal cancer?
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Mo said:
“First the state raises taxes, and then we have a smoking ban, and now I have to deal with this,” ... Aw Jeez, I guess our 'freestate' ain't really free' no-mo huh?
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D said:
Free that Bird at 9:34, you can smoke on your own property and mine.
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Examiner Reader said:
Now that the City parking ticket scam revenue has stopped, the City needs a new easy revenue stream. The police in Maryland don't solve crimes, they collect taxes.
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Examiner Reader said:
why dont they leave us smokers alone.it seems like the cops are harder on us.they should be taking care of other crimes instead of us smokers. i feel like we are under lock and key we dont have freedom anymore.
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Examiner Reader said:
Stop smoking, huh? Sounds like someone has been drinking the socialist cool aid. Get a life and stay out of mine.
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Examiner Reader said:
Just like Baltimore. Ignore the real problem of prostitutes and street thugs loitering and go after the working people trying to have a drink and a smoke. I'm sure everyone had parking tickets on their cars too!
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Examiner Reader said:
I think everyone should get the message-- STOP SMOKING!!!!!
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Examiner Reader said:
Hey, Avid Reader.... Your an idiot.. No Officer is tagetting smokers, They are enforcing laws that are already on the books. There are local law for Loitering near liquor establishments (bars & Stores) and disturing the Peace... They are enforced every day. You are obviously uneducated, you want to sue the Police and bar owners.. Yeah, That makes sense.. They are there for a reason! Go hug a tree... Smokers are just in a bad situation.. You wanted Omalley, You got him!
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baltimore just gets worse said:
This is just great has all common sense left Baltimore? I am just amazed at the police here I guess it’s just easier and safer to harass customer of bars smoking than to go after real criminals. This police department is in a downward spiral, do they get any training? Maybe they should raise the standards for an officer so that maybe we might rid the force of some of these under trained, lazy, and thug officers. It’s bad enough that I can’t come to Baltimore because of the crime now I have to watch out for the police too, very sad.
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Examiner Reader said:
What a shock. Another unintended consequence from another 'well-intentioned' law passed by our idiot legislators.
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Examiner Reader said:
You get what you vote for. Vote liberals in as your leaders you get these stupid liberal laws.
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Examiner Reader said:
Calling bluff on the examiner. Get more reliable sources than some crazy chick who probably got fined for something unrelated.
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not in Bawlmore anymore said:
I live in NC now and am happy I made that choice. What ever happened to freedom of choice? Is it so hard to let the restaurant and bar owners make their own decision as to who they want their patrons to be? The smokers will go where they want, as will the non-smokers. Maryland "the free state", what a joke. Those who "BELIEVE" in freedom will leave MD and leave the scum in Baltimore and P.G. county to kill each other. Where has common sense gone? NC that's where.
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Examiner Reader said:
why don't they mind their own business and get to the real problems in this City. There should be enough going on that they should leave innocent people alone. They should fine the "bums" who harass people on city streets. This is totally getting out of control.
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Former City Dweller said:
I would like to point out that part of the rational for putting this ban was to 'make the streets safer', because 'now there will be people on the street'. I forget which dumba** politician said that, but it was in the Examiner when all this started to go do about a month ago.
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Examiner Reader said:
What to you mean start? They already have!!!
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Examiner Reader said:
Wow. Just like Baltimore. I guess the city employees will start shaking down smokers now.
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Examiner Reader said:
How much you want to bet that the Police are enforcing the loitering laws for smokers because 1) some busybody non-smoker complained about having to walk the gauntlet of smokers outside a bar or b) the city figures that the smokers will pay the loitering fines and help replace some of the revenue lost from the loss of parking tickets.
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Examiner Reader said:
The police are afraid to tackle real crime in Baltimore, hence the harrassment of good citizens. Smoking isn't the first example..God forbid you need an officers help at your home...they are rude, arrogant, and powermad...This IS NOT the exception, it is the rule.
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Baltimatt said:
Unitendend consequence? Maybe these lawmakers need to think. I could have told them making smokers go outside would have run afoul of the anti-loitering laws. And wait till it warms up and people are willing to spend more time outside when they take their smoke breaks.
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Examiner Reader said:
"Smoking ban changes the dynamic"? Are you kidding me? Evidently having a brain is not required for members of the BCPD.
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Examiner Reader said:
Do you get a SWAT Team for smoking a cigar? The cops probably hate this as much as the smokers, this smells like a admin decision made by the brass.
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