Metrorail to ditch idea of bench seating
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WASHINGTON (Map, News) - Metro is abandoning the idea of bench seating on rail cars after tests proved the design was unpopular with riders.

“Our customers here are very driven about having the maximum number of seats,” Metro’s rail manager Dave Kubicek said. “The bench-type seating just wouldn’t work for us.”

Tests showed that bench seating, which is similar to the configuration used on New York’s subway system, did not create more standing space, as was the agency’s intention.

“If we went off a purely engineering perspective, by the time you put that person in there, put their feet in there, put their legs in there, put their luggage in there, you didn’t really gain that much capacity at all,” he said.

Metro riders who had seen pictures of the test cars or who had ridden on one of the several test cars circulating the system applauded the decision Monday.

“I’ll tell you, I like it the way it is,” said Blue Line commuter John Staples, who has ridden a test car. “I don’t see the point of changing it. It’s a lot more comfortable to ride backwards and forwards than it is to ride sideways.”

The agency is still testing several other design features, including lean-to stations at the end of rail cars that allow standing passengers to lean on wall padding. That feature would eliminate eight seats from each car.

“There are pros and cons,” Kubicek said. “At this time I couldn’t say which direction we’re going to go with those.”

Metro is surveying customers and has placed cameras in some test cars to gauge customers’ reactions to the new features.

The agency already has settled on a grab-handle design for its new 6000-series rail cars. Those will have double rails of stainless steel grab handles protruding from the ceiling, leaving room for taller customers to stand in between them without hitting their heads, Kubicek said.

Because their engineering is more conducive to them, the other rail cars likely will have one center row of vinyl grab handles that will drop 8 to 12 inches lower than the stainless steel ones and be more accessible to shorter customers, Kubicek said.

The agency also is testing Kevlar-reinforced, stain-resistant cloth seat cushions in place of the current vinyl ones, he said.

Renovating Metro

Features still on Metro’s test list:

» Vinyl grab handles for its older rail cars

» Lean-to areas that would provide padded leaning walls but eliminate eight seats.

» Carpetless floors

» Cloth cushions instead of vinyl

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12:25 PM MST on Wed., Jun. 11, 2008 re: "More riders squeezing onto Metrorail as gas costs force commuters off roads"

Patricia K said:
I realize that more commuters are using the system, and that I am not going to find a seat or avoid skin contact with a sweaty hairy man on a rainy day. I even accept that a couple packed trains will pass me by, lengthening my commute. It is the nauseatingly abrupt start-stop motion and stall-outs at every other stop that I abhor. Are these necessary? My commute has taken on the qualities of a sadistic psychological experiment, designed to see how much I can take without losing my mind. It is by far the most difficult portion of my day, and I know I’m not alone. Suggestions for improvement include adjusting the air conditioning to accommodate sardines at rush hour; stopping completely instead of slamming on the brakes, inching forward, and repeating; and setting an automated speed so that riders aren’t alternately subject to snails and speed demons.

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8:52 AM MST on Mon., Feb. 4, 2008 re: "Alexandria officials tie development to new stations"

Examiner examiner said:
Why does Taryn Luntz accept the estimate of $100 million for a new metrorail station without question? Is she doing her job?

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5:56 AM MST on Wed., Dec. 5, 2007 re: "Va. House speaker has dim hopes for Metrorail extension to Dulles"

Examiner Reader said:
Presently there is only one Metro Bus route that services Dulles. Seems like Metro would set up more routes to Dulles from DC/VA/MD to prove there is a need for the rail. Meanwhile, the taxi industry will continue to bilk the public with $50 plus fares.

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6:10 AM MST on Wed., Jun. 20, 2007 re: "Dulles rail vote draws criticism and praise"

County Resident said:
It's too bad that Supervisor Cathy Hudgins was not willing to wait for a better look at the costs and the risks before voting. Hunter Mill needs Marie Huhtala. This eyesore might also force real estate tax increases and compete with schools, parks and public safety for county revenue. We need a new county board of supervisors.

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10:54 AM MST on Wed., Jun. 6, 2007 re: "Rail issue a focal point in election year"

Examiner Reader said:
The County is being burdened with an uncapped 16.!% of costs, which is guaranteed to rise, as the contract is structured. Worse yet the County has not even seen the Contract documents. Even to see a redacted version a week for a major vote on a $3 B project, this is not displaying fiscal prudence on the part of the County stewards. It is not only that the best option is not getting built, but the Stewards of the County have been quite deficient. The County residents are being asked to pay increasing taxes every year, however, the Supervisors have not demonstrated fiduciary responsibility, while relegating the decision making to other bodies , such as the State, MWAA and others. A case in point is that the State's obligations are capped at $75M, while the County pays 5 times as much and claims to have no say in the decision making process ! Actually we are being asked to pay more than more than $800 million, along with any increases that the cartel decides to make.

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8:18 PM MST on Tue., Jun. 5, 2007 re: "Board may stall rail vote unless contract delivered"

Carl Lundie said:
The concept to deliver the Dulles Rail through Tysons can be "state of the art " and a place to be admired for many years to come. I have 3 questions 1) How is it possible the contractor (DPT) Dulles Transit Partners after reaching an agreement with (MWAA) Metropolitan Washington Aiports Authority and the Commonwealth of VA. to build Phase 1 on March 30, 07 a contract has not been delivered, reviewed with due diligence? 2) Who has control over the decision process ? The (DPT) set the 19 June as the vote date. Dana Kauffman, a board member asked the question Monday June 4,07. 3) Is contract expiration date June 20 or August 1,07

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5:05 PM MST on Tue., Jun. 5, 2007 re: "Rail issue a focal point in election year"

US Grant said:
Lynda Smyth and Gerry Connolly have got to go! They do not give a damn about constituents - only turning Fairfax and Tysons into an urban slum. It is time for people top take back the governments, local and state, and do what is right. The Tysons project is a fisaco thanks to those purported elected leaders currnently in power. Get them out - retire them!

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8:36 AM MST on Tue., Jun. 5, 2007 re: "FTA rejects underground rail route"

E.S. said:
Common Sense: Apparently you don't realize that by having rail go right down the toll road and straight out to the airport you'd be bypassing Tysons and lowering the ridership numbers that would be required to receive certain levels of federal and local funding for Metrorail in any form. Ridership numbers are extremely important to the approval of funding. Under your plan, you'd still need to have buses shuttling people to their jobs and homes in Tysons Corner (especially after the master plan for Tysons Corner to include more mixed-use is implemented) which would tax the transit system in other ways. Riders want convenient and direct access to their destinations without having to switch forms of transit. This is clearly evidenced by airline travel. Direct = convenient. Especially in the rapid pace of Northern Virginia and the Washington, DC area.

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5:48 AM MST on Fri., Jun. 1, 2007 re: "FTA rejects underground rail route"

Common Sense said:
It's time to pull the plug on rail through Tysons. Put the Silver Line back in the median of the Dulles Toll Road. That way, we get rail to Dulles, without risking such huge cost overruns. This plan would avoid the ugly El and the huge increases in density for Tysons Corner landowners that would likely add even more traffic to our roads.

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1:29 PM MST on Wed., May. 30, 2007 re: "Review of Metrorail plan delayed again"

E.S. said:
I guess the roadside banner photo says it all. Delays. Wouldn't it be nice if they'd just open up competition so we could get an honest shake on the deal? Instead the little secret trimmings here and there to get costs down may just jeopardize Metro coming to Dulles altogether.

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4:42 PM MST on Fri., May. 4, 2007 re: "Citizens group blasts secrecy of Dulles rail"

Surprised - Not said:
Gee I wonder where Gerry Connolly was when the Examiner called! Probably conducting county business in private.

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9:57 AM MST on Thu., Apr. 26, 2007 re: "Panel to pick Dulles rail station art"

E.S. said:
Marcia McAllister states in your article: “It is the goal of the Metrorail Project, working with [the Metropolitan Washington Airports Authority], to identify talent and artists who can really create pieces that really speak to the environment, that speak to Tysons [Corner], that speak to Reston,” she said. I have only this response to Ms. McAllister's statement: Has your panel of judges for the proposed artwork at stations taken into consideration that the art most appropriate for the Tysons Corner "environment" with an elevated rail is referred to as "graffiti". It has "worked" in many other cities. I believe, as do others in our area, the grafitti artists who offer their creative expressions aren't exactly going to do a formal submission of their work to a judging/review panel for your approval nor will they feel that they need to restrain their creative expression or limit their subject matter to happy clouds and trees. There will plenty of art for all of us to judge.

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