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According to Muni, a Great Britain-based manufacturer is giving one double-decker bus to The City for the trial, which is set to end Jan. 8. City officials said there are no plans to buy a fleet of the buses, which would cost over $800,000 each.
Muni spokesman Alan Siegel said that, at 14 feet tall with 330 horsepower, the double-decker bus could go almost anywhere the current buses go. Steep hills and overhead power lines aren’t expected to be a problem, Siegel said, but overgrown trees and tunnel clearance would bar access to some routes.
According to Muni, the Broadway tunnel would be off-limits for the double-decker and 28-19th Avenue would pose problems because of low-hanging trees on Park Presidio Boulevard.
A similar bus in Snohomish County, Wash., goes into and out of Seattle twice a day. Community Transit spokesman Martin Munguia said their “Double Tall” bus is extremely popular as a long-distance commuter bus, but in an urban area it could pose problems.
“It’s really not the best for local service because the people up top take a long time to go downstairs,” Munguia said. “It tends to take up a lot of time at the bus stops.”
Manguia also said clearing overhead lights, trees, bridges and tunnels was a major issue in Seattle, “You really have to be careful and run test runs.”
According to Muni, “dwell time” will be monitored by checking a passenger counter. There is no disabled access to the top floor and safety issues will be monitored by video. A “select number” of drivers have been trained to drive the vehicle.
But Muni officials said there are no long-term plans for the buses, even though they provide several advantages. The double-decker bus can seat at least 26 more people than the long, articulated buses while requiring 30 percent less space on streets, bus stops and in maintenance yards.
“It would have been foolish not to see how these things work on the streets of The City,” Siegel said.
Where to catch the new bus:
Dec. 12-15, Dec. 17.....6:30 a.m. to 6:30 p.m.
Dec. 18-21.....6:30 a.m. to 6:30 p.m.
Dec. 22.....10:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m.
Dec. 24, Dec. 26-28.....Mornings and Evenings
Dec. 24, Dec.26-29.....9:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m.
Dec. 31, Jan.2-5.....6:30 a.m. to 6:30 p.m.



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Examiner Reader said:
This is really cool. The only thing that worries me is the safety of the passengers on the top floor. It's no secret that a lot of crazy people and thugs ride muni, so being stuck alone with these people seems dangerous. I'm not sure how my idea fits in with the cost-benefit for muni, but i think there should be two muni people on a bus. A driver, and another person who secures the rest of the bus, check transfers and passes. This person can also reduce grafitti and vandelism, and make people feel more secure on buses.
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Examiner Reader said:
I just wonder what it will be like on the top of the bus trapped with a crazy or two, it's not like the drivers do much to deal with crazies anyway, but on the top of a double decker, you're going to be really on your own. Otherwise, I definitely think it's a cool idea.
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Billy Huggins said:
I rode double deckers often while growing up in N.Ireland. They are just as efficient as regular buses and the passengers upstairs get a better view. I think they are a great idea. Give them some time and you will see what I mean!
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Examiner Reader said:
Hey muni fan, nice attitude.
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muni fan said:
A two story bus will only make twice as many people late if it falls behind schedule.
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Examiner Reader said:
The 38L is packed "beyond belief" because it does not come frequently enough. It doesn't come frequently enough because Muni can't afford more buses, because they're spending all their money on maintenance costs. Maintenance costs are so high because buses operate in so much traffic. It costs more to maintain a car that runs in the city than it does to maintain a car that runs on the freeway. Dedicated lanes would reduce operating costs for Muni, getting more buses out there, making for less crowds, which makes for a more comfortable, dignified ride, which attracts more riders, which reduces cars, which reduces greenhouse gases, which will save the planet....Everybody wins!!! Keep your double deckers...Give us BRT!!!
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Examiner Reader said:
Regarding the previous comment, London also has a congestion fee that is collected from cars and then spent on public transit. They've also coughed up the funding for a great subway system. In addition, the SFPD does not enforce parking; that's the DPT's job. By enforcing meter parking, they keep spaces open, thereby eliminating the need to double park, and then slow Muni. Also, Muni drivers are not paid $90K at a minimum, and are actually paid about half that, at a maximum. Which isn't very much considered how important of a job it is. Finally, the fares from WE RIDERS pay for only a very small portion of the cost to operate transit. It's dismal, actually. The only thing that will speed up muni is to get cars out of the way. Dedicated lanes will do speed up Muni. Stacking twice as many passengers in a bus with half as many doors will only increase dwell time. One other way is to have Muni transfers work on BART, the way fast passes do.
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Robbie said:
How long until this beautiful $800,000 bus is tagged by graffiti vandals?
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Examiner Reader said:
Double deckers don't slow down the route. They've been in use in London for decades. If the SFPD concentrated on double parkers instead of generating income from expired meters it would improve MUNI. Cutting the pay of MUNI Supervisors and drivers in half (currently $90000 minimum), eliminating their overblown pensions, and making their pay performance dependent like the rest of us would improve service. MUNI needs to realize they are in a service for which WE RIDERS pay their salary. We also need transparancy in the drivers' DMV and criminal records. Every time I buy my pass I am hiring the driver for passage. Since I am putting my safety in the drivers hands, I deserve to know what kind of record the driver has. So keep the double decker, buy 100 more of them.
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Examiner Reader said:
This experiment will fail miserably. What really slowes Muni down is cars. The more cars there are on the road, the slower the buses can go. San Francisco's population is getting bigger, but streetspace is limited. We need to prioritize the public space in a way that it serves the most people. And why are we still charging people who suffer with the huddled masses on the bus while doing better for the environment, while people who drive on the same roads pay no "fares", and use the same public space? It's all backwards!
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Examiner Reader said:
Wow what a terrific bus. I think it would be helpful to maybe doing long routes with this Double Decker Bus. I can understnd the passengers getting off the bus slow for walking down stairs and it would take some time to get down them. But I think it's really cool.
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Examiner Reader said:
so that means that there will be twice as many people late for work or just late for anything since Muni can't seem to run on time.
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