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The majority of baseball writers in the country are here at the ridiculously large Opryland Hotel. Virtually anybody who is somebody in the game is here — front-office types, scouts, agents, the works.
Most of us have been here since Sunday night, and when most of us leave this afternoon, we’ll all have the same thought: Why did we do this?
Nothing gets done at the winter meetings that couldn’t get done over the phone. That big Florida Marlins-Detroit Tigers trade? You think it took being holed up in a suite inside a virtual biosphere facilitated it? If anything, being here slowed it down, just as it’s slowing the Johan Santana sweepstakes.
The inevitable rumors that come when you stick hundreds of writers in a ballroom for four-plus days create confusion. Confusion takes time to sift through.
There was a five-year stretch, from 1993-97, when baseball went without winter meetings, and the game survived. It’s time to kill this thing off again.
Just don’t do it until 2009. The 2008 winter meetings are in Vegas.
» Tejada no, Rios maybe: The last thing the rebuilding Giants need is an expensive, fading former superstar in his 30s, and that’s what they’d have if they traded for Baltimore Orioles shortstop Miguel Tejada.
Tejada is coming off his worst year and his first significant injury, and he’s owed $13 million for each of the next two seasons. Joining Omar Vizquel on the left side of San Francisco’s infield might re-energize Tejada, who needs a change of scenery in the worst way, but moving from shortstop to third base is a lot more difficult than it sounds, and Tejada is past his prime.
The Giants had talks with the O’s about Tejada here, but that’s on the back burner for now as they pursue outfielder Alex Rios of the Toronto Blue Jays in a trade that might cost them Tim Lincecum.
Rios makes far more sense for the Giants, but in dealing Lincecum, they’d be breaking up what could be the best 1-2 punch — Lincecum and Matt Cain — in baseball before long. Is it worth the risk? For a team that will be relying on pitching and defense for the next couple of years, the answer is probably no.
The Giants need several hitters, and giving up one of their best two starting pitchers to get just one bat is too steep a price to pay.
If the Jays will take Jonathan Sanchez and Brad Hennessey, do the deal. If it’s no deal without Lincecum, the Giants should walk away.
Mychael Urban is the author of “Aces: The Last Season On The Mound With The Oakland A’s Big Three — Tim Hudson, Mark Mulder and Barry Zito” and a writer for MLB.com. He also hosts the weekend edition of “Sportsphone 680” on KNBR (680 AM).



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Examiner Reader said:
this is not good
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Geonono said:
Barry is the greatest of his era. His stats are unmatched. No one even comes close. Over 500 steals and homeruns, nearly 3000 hits, nearly 2000 RBIs, an ubelievable amount of walks and on and on. Better than Jose, Mac, A-Rod and Sosa. He has hit HRs off over 400 different pitchers. Pitchers unlike any Ruth or Hank had to face, pitching 90+mph pitches all day and aided by computers. Do you think just maybe some of the pitchers were doing 'roids? Probably most. So isn't the playing field pretty even? And if some people think Barry's numbers should be "*" then all of baseball for the last two decades should be. Did he cheat? If he did 'roids it was before they were illegal, so, no. Did he lie? Maybe, but that has nothing to do with the record or the game. Did he ever test positive for steroids? NO, but many other stars have. In the future, will there be a demand for A-Rod to be "*"? I doubt it. Now, his other balls will rise in value with 755 and 756 destroyed. Iro
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Examiner Reader said:
Barry Bonds & Michael Urban are both haters. Just live and let live. Have a bit of perspective here. It's just a ball. The owner, regardless of how much he paid for it, has the right to do what he wants to do with it. If he wants to have an online experiment to see what the American public wants to do with it, so be it. He paid for that right.
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Examiner Reader said:
History isn't history if you cheated to achieve a record. I wouldnt blow up the ball- I would put it in the Hall, draped in black ribbons along with the other steroid-age records and memorabilia.
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Examiner Reader said:
What a Joke... Pena is oing nowhere and neither is Crawford... the Rays have seen alot from the ir pitching prospects this year , enough to suggest the have a starting rotation and a few peices of the reliever puzzle...never happen
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Examiner Reader said:
Agree that getting rid of Harden is a prudent move. But how about we package him with Chavez? While we would lose a gold-glove third basemen, we would surely be able to get someone who could actually hit in the clutch.
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c.davis said:
It's great to see Byrnes do so well...it's a shame he's not still in Baltimore. He would fit perfectly under O's manager Dave Trembley
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Examiner Reader said:
Who paid this guy to write this fake article? I was in the city on Tuesday attempting to go to school and I was robbed by the parking garage for $70 because of the game. The homeless were out in full force. It took an extra hour to get home because they closed off King St. They built a parking lot for the ball park but why not an actual garage?
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Montira said:
I agree with most of what Examiner Reader suggests: 1) starters should be picked solely on their numbers; 2) reserves chosen by fans; and 3) pitching chosen by players and managers. Yet, why terminate the rule that "all teams must be represented"? I thought that being named to the All-Star Game meant that a player has "made it" or, in the case of a veteran, is still at the top of his game. If players have great individual stats, why deprive them of a chance to play in the All-Star Game just because their teams are in "the cellar"? The All-Star Game could be the only highlight of their season, as they likely will not make the playoffs.
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Examiner Reader said:
Maybe the all-star starters should be picked solely by their numbers, the reserves chosen by the fans, and the pitching chosen by players and managers. Get rid of the "all teams must be represented" rule.
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Prof. Dingle Berry said:
Mychael Urban Grammer > (start paragraphs and sentences with conjunctions) Flashes of brilliance, yes. But also flashes of bust. But(s) out of place and flashing Bust? Sounds more like an article about a strip club not a basketball player.
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Prof. Dingle Berry said:
Beginning a paragraph with a conjunction? Mychael Urban Grammer > And no matter how long Nellie Era II lasts, we’ll probably have our answer by the end of February. I find hundred of these kind of gramatical mistakes in this dudes writing. I guess a USF education isn't what it use to be.
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Examiner Reader said:
This S.F. Giants team needs help badly. Re-signing Barry Bonds at the time looked fine but not at the amount paid because now look, we have a minor league system looks horrible as well, but not as much as the trades we have gotten. If we paid Barry Bonds less than what he got the last three signings, we would possibly have a decent team both in the major and minors. Look what this team is now.
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Gyros Fan in Beantown said:
Who wrote that Boston doesn't care about Bonds? They vilify him every chance they get in the Globe. Shilling? ALS? Sure, he has raised a lot of money but the fact of the matter is that he polarizes every clubhouse he has been in. Speaking of how Bonds looks now as compared to when he broke in: Have you seen the same pictures of Clemens? Also, how can you explain that Clemens, Shilling and Randy Johnson have put up career numbers in the later stages of their career? They weren't helped? Save it all of you. Bonds NEVER tested positive for ANYTHING illegal EVER. By the way, how many HRs would Ruth hit if he had to face Gibson, Doc Gooden, J. R. Richard, and other black pitchers? I think racism (BoSox were the LAST team to integrate) is more disgusting than steriods...
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Examiner Reader said:
Curt Schilling is no fraud and at last count he had more World Series rings than your pathetic cheater , Barry Bonds.
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Examiner Reader said:
You might want to rethink your pick of Dice-K as the MVP and Cy Young winner. The guy has an era close to 5.00 and he would not have 7 wins if he wasn't playing for the Red Sox. The guys is a good pitcher, but sheesh... can we hold off on putting him in Cooperstown for a couple more years.
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BoxSoxBondsFan said:
Gotta say...cheap shot at Schilling. Yes, he shouldn't have said what he did, but he did apologize for his remarks. But I guess you chose to ignore that. For all the good he's done concerning ALS and all he's given back, he's earned a little slack!!!
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Jojo Baloney said:
Bonds did steroids. Anybody who can't see that must be blind. The real home run champ is still a gentleman by the name of GEORGE HERMAN RUTH. (Roger Maris "broke" the record in more than 154 games, while McGwire/Soso/Bonds "broke" it with steroids).
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Examiner Reader said:
I'd like to challenge all the Barry Bonds fans, especially Mychael Urban, to show your support of Bonds by donating to the Bay Area ALS Association at alsabayarea.org. Can you guys top the amount Schilling will donate to ALS through Curt's Pitch in 2007? Put your money where your mouths are!
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Examiner Reader said:
I'm ashamed of the media for the amount of press, positive or negative, that they've given to Barry Bonds. The man is not a story, he's a self absorbed drug abuser in need of professional psychiatric help. Whether or not this steriod enhanced excuse for a professional ballplayer hits his 756th baseball out of a major league ballpark, Hank Aaron will continue to hold the title of Home Run King until someone can top his total of 755 WITHOUT the benefit of steroids. The same holds true for Babe Ruth remaining second to Aaron with 714 career home runs. I refuse to recognize any of Bond's drug induced "records." I can only hope that Major League Baseball does the same. In fact, if the Hall of Fame is to remain the sacred and hallowed hall where only baseball's very best may hope to gain entry, it must deny entry to Bonds. He alone can destroy the integrity of all that the shrine in Cooperstown represents simply by being admitted. May his name and image be forever denied entranc
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Examiner Reader said:
i am a boston fan and think the royal treatment they gave dice-k was way over board, he is for sure no predo or clement and they didnt get that kind of treatment. i am not inpressed with him at all, if the soxs didnt score a lot of runs for him he would have a loosing record, hi era is awfull for what they paid. how about pena, cant field ,hit or run, what were they thinking getting him, they have three outfielders right now ready to play in the big leagues
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Examiner Reader said:
"Frauds such as Curt Schilling"? Schilling has personally raised tens of thousands of dollars for ALS with every strikeout. What are Barry Bonds' charities, other than Barry Bonds himself?
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SRM said:
Did you change your name to make it different from the proper way M...I..C..H...A..E..L. OOpps sorry that might offend and I was just trying to make a joke. Curt Schilling put his career on the line to win a playoff game and then again to win a World Series game. This makes him a legend and a roomie of Willis Reed and men who put it all on the line. Mychael you owe Curt and all your readers an apology. You do know how because you are an apologist for the biggest fraud in baseball history. Giants fans and all baseball fans deserve better than you and Chemical Man.
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Stephen Morris said:
Schilling apologized. Thorne apologized. Schilling must have read the extremely detailed accounts of Barry's behavior in a published book. Schilling Does talk too much but I saw the jealousy in Barry's eyes when McGwire, Griffey & Frank Thomas hit 500 foot shots in the All Star Home Run Contest. Suddenly Barry's body went from a facsimile of Griffey Jr. to an enormous chemically enhanced Superman. I rooted hard for Henry Aaron because he showed great character. When Barry comes to Fenway. I will turn away from this dishonest man. He was a great player with a difficult personality when he was NATURAL sized. He is presently and very sadly for the great game of baseball and the wonderful city of San Francisco...a fraud.
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ww385 said:
I think maybe you ment Aaron's record, but I agree none the less. Bonds does not deserve to own Babe's or Aaron's records!
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Examiner Reader said:
bonds is great, no question. but how did he get to where he's at? remember when he entered the league? a pretty amazing transformation if i may say so. i can't help but wonder what the vehicle of his metamorfasis might be. in my mind, bonds will never in any way measure up to the babe. if any pitcher wants to make a statement, walk bonds every at bat. regardless of the situation. some things are more inmportant than pride, even more inmportant than wins and losses. bonds does not deserve to own babes record. period.
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Montira said:
This sounds like a disgruntled sportswriter's diatribe. Mychael, how do you know all these nasty things that you say about Curt Schilling? Are you stalking him?? Whether these things are true or not, people who don't personally know the man don't need to know these things, lest they become unfairly prejudiced against him. Schilling apologized for his comments, and if you choose not to believe in his sincerity, that's fine, but leave it at that.
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Examiner Reader said:
Shut up and pitch!!!
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Chris said:
Curt Schilling doesn't need to speak his mind to earn the spotlight - he earns that on the mound every fifth day. I really think its a certain sportswriter who's trying to garner the spotlight. Either that or you'r head's been submerged in McCovey cove for too long.
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Linda said:
I think you are a first class jerk.Schilling is not the lying cheat Bonds is.In my eyes,Aaron's record will still remain intact.The only thing Bonds broke was the trust that his fans had in him as a baseball hero.
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Conor said:
I find it truly amazing that a professional writer could sit there from the comfort of his computer and say someone is trying to stay in the spotlight, while he writes tremendously inaccurate columns just to get some East coast reads. Schilling spoke what 90% of real baseball fans are thinking, and no Ortiz was not sending Schilling a message (Ortiz's comments came first). I only wish that SF fans would wake up. That record rightfully belongs to Aaron, not some juiced up jerk. Lastly, the 'fake blood' goes far and beyond what Schilling ever said about Bonds. Don't worry though, you're in the spotlight, right?
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Examiner Reader said:
When I first read this article, I thought it was a fan blog. What a hateful diatribe. At least Schilling apologized. Face it, Urban. San Francisco is the only place Barry wil be getting any love....unless it's from another girlfriend that testifies to the grand jury.
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Examiner Reader said:
I'm from Boston, so you may think my response is prejudicial, it's not, it's fact. Really, we don't care about Bonds, Schill has the right to say what he wants, and honestly "fake blood"? You really need to get a clue. I don't believe for one minute that Ortiz's defense for Bonds was in any way, shape, or form Papi sending a message to Schilling. I've come to the conclusion that all sports writers will write anything just to get read.
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Examiner Reader said:
Regardless of the unkind comments by Schilling, Bonds should not be celebrated for breaking the record after what he has done? If the fans in SF want to keep their heads in the sand so be it but don't expect the rest us baseball fans to do the same.
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Examiner Reader said:
Curt's apologized before Urban's article. "Fake Blood". Perhaps it is Urban's turn to apologize. Curt's apology yesterday:Schilling said on his blog that his comment about Bonds "was a callous, wreckless and irresponsible thing to say, and for that I apologize to Barry, Barry's family, Barry's friends and the Giants organization, my teammates and the Red Sox organization as well as anyone else that may have been offended by the comments I made."
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Examiner Reader said:
It's very obvious that you don't like Schilling, that's your right. I'm sure he spends time with his family and it's terrible of you to suggest otherwise. You're probably a die hard Yankee fan that would llike to get something started in the Sox clubhouse to mess up the good things that are happening right now. I will never believe that it was fake blood on Schillings sock and I think it's terrible to imply that it was. How come it was never mentioned before. You're all want to be chef's . STIR, STIR, STIR, GET THE POT BOILING. Shame, shame on the bunch of you. And we wonder why we can't get along and not have a war. AND I don't think Schilling is jealous of Bonds, why should he be. Go find something else to complain about Hope Curt reads your article, something more for lthe blog.
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Philly in Boston said:
As much as it pains me to say this, I totally agree. While I do believe that Barry is a cheater and liar of the worst sort, I am equally dismayed that Schilling can't keep his mouth shut and concentrate on pitching. Maybe if he put less time into his blog, his video game company and his filibustering, he might have not come into spring training 25 pounds overweight and gotten that contract extension he so desperately wants. Instead, the Sox opted to wait until the season ends. A far cry from the team who courted Curt over Thanksgiving 3 years ago. The glory of 2004 has faded, and Boston is a "what have you done for me lately" kind of place. Everyone knows Barry juiced and had at least one mistress - regardless of whether or not this hometown columnist believes it - and any records he sets will be illegitimate. Nevertheless, it's too bad Curt had to join the fray denouncing him.
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Examiner Reader said:
Speaking of vitriol and someone that likes the sound of his own voice...or the read of his own words as the case may be.
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Examiner Reader said:
"Hold the fake blood"???? Speaking about rumors......reporters are supposed to stick to the facts, not pass around vicious, untrue rumors. That was in extremely poor taste.
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