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Firefighters: NAACP must apologize

Dec 4, 2007 12:00 AM (400 days ago) by Stephen Janis, The Examiner
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BALTIMORE (Map, News) - Firefighters at the East Baltimore station where a noose was found demanded Monday that the NAACP apologize for labeling them racist.

Discovery of the noose had drawn sharp criticism from Marvin “Doc” Cheatham, the Baltimore NAACP president, before a black firefighter from the station admitted that he had placed the noose there.

“The firefighters that work on his shift want Doc Cheatham to be man enough to stand up and apologize for his outrageous statements,” said Bob Sledgeski, a city firefighter union official. “They’re furious they were accused of being racists when it was not true.”

Sledgeski said the discovery of the noose — and the accusations by Cheatham and others that it was a sign of racism in the fire department — caused distress for the firefighters at Herman Williams Jr. firehouse on 25th Street.

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The union, Sledgeski said, is considering filing a defamation lawsuit against the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People and the Vulcan Blazers, a black firefighters group that said the noose symbolized racism in the department.

Henry Burris, president of the Vulcan Blazers, condemned the incident but said no apology was necessary.

“I do not condone it,” he said. “However, I do not apologize for the information I got concerning the noose, and, as I said when I found out about the noose, it was just a symptom of racism in the fire department.”

Donald Maynard, a firefighter-paramedic apprentice, admitted last week he had placed the noose and a drawing depicting a lynching, fire officials said Saturday evening.

Maynard had told fire officials he and a paramedic found the noose and drawing on Nov. 21, along with a note.

The note, written in a childlike scrawl and left next to rope tied in a knot, was found in the bunk room.

“We cant [sic] hang the cheaters, but we can hang the failures. NO EMT-I, NO JOB,” it read.

The note apparently referred to the requirement that all city firefighters must pass advanced life-saving training as a condition of employment. (EMT-I refers to emergency medical technician, intermediate.)

Maynard has since been suspended by the department for not completing his EMT-I certification.

Cheatham could not be reached for comment Monday. In an interview Saturday, he had called for the person who placed the noose to be punished.

“As the NAACP stated when first notified of this incident, whoever perpetrated this awful act must be punished regardless of race, age, religion,” he said.

sjanis@baltimoreexaminer.com

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9:15 PM MST on Wed., Mar. 12, 2008 re: "Firefighters: NAACP must apologize"

Examiner Reader said:
Don't back down push the issue for an apology ....in writing!!!

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11:00 AM MST on Mon., Dec. 10, 2007 re: "Black apprentice left noose"

Examiner Reader said:
The Naccp better have a apolgy how dare they drag Baltimore's Fire Department in the gutter.They over reacted on a issue that they had no evidence a white fireman did.Also I don't think they have any job being in Baltimore's afair's.If this would have turned out to have been done by a white man.Then the only one that has to deal with it would between the white fire fighter and the black fire fighter's.The white fire fighter would have had to give the black's a apolgy.But this was a set up to make all white's in the department look bad and racist.The Naccp need's to go some where else they should have no influence in how the punishment should be.This is a Baltimore thing and can be dealt with in the community.The Naccp can go try and baby sit some one else they have no right in any city afair's.As for the nosse well I was sure glad to see it was not a white man.They need to fire that black fire fighter that did it starting racial tention for no reason.

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7:55 AM MST on Mon., Dec. 10, 2007 re: "Firefighters: NAACP must apologize"

Examiner Reader said:
They're not going to apologize. If they really cared about doing the right thing, they would. But they don't, they're in this to force their agenda on everyone, that's all. Taking responsibility and admitting mistakes goes against everything the NAACP stands for. I'm sure they're sitting around thinking about ways to turn this around to make themselves the victims in this.

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8:50 PM MST on Tue., Dec. 4, 2007 re: "Firefighters: NAACP must apologize"

examiner reader said:
7:55, "Racheal M. Wilson WAS murdered as her family attests. But it wasnt by the travesty of safety violations that occurred on Feb 9th. She was ill-fated the day they allowed her to continue with training while she did not meet the established physical standards standards that were in place to be followed to ensure her safety" You are dead wrong about this, her death was related to hatred without a cause by her brothers (firefighters) They picked out one of her weaknesses and used it against her by sabotaging her training. The ones she trusted left her without back up when she was in a troulbed situation; proven fact, read the investigative report. They set her up to fail because "they" judged that she did not belong there, hell her death was about interdepartmental polotics of over inflated ego pri*ks, plain & simple! thanks for the love brother, NOT!!!

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8:48 PM MST on Tue., Dec. 4, 2007 re: "Firefighters: NAACP must apologize"

MDGolfGuy said:
Suprise suprise, no one cares about the white man. Try being a random white man whom many black men hate, and assume is racist. I'm sick of talking about racism. I'd just like people to call something right, or wrong, and call it a day. This type of event simply gives "Doc" another reason to get in front of the press. Too bad he isn't out there fighting for the homeless soldiers, mothers and children living on the streets of Baltimore.

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8:21 PM MST on Tue., Dec. 4, 2007 re: "Firefighters: NAACP must apologize"

Don't Blame the Blameworthy said:
Don’t blame firefighter-paramedic apprentice Donald Maynard; he never should have had a chance to take part in this hoax. He should have been fired 3 years ago when he failed to meet the testing standards. Pray for the family of Racheal M. Wilson; she never should have been in that live-fire exercise. She should have been let go when she failed to meet the physical standards. Don’t scorn the firemen for believing they are the target of racism; they hear it from their astute (yet blindly ignorant) community leaders so often they eventually accept it as true. Want to solve the problem? Stop giving these “over-reactive champions of equality” so much attention and access to the media. Their existence hinges on perpetuating hatred. Their success is measured by their ability to incite anger, often in denial of the truth. Want to see how much they care? Talk to someone who has contacted the NAACP for help in a case that offers no political, profitable, or newsworthy benefit.

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7:55 PM MST on Tue., Dec. 4, 2007 re: "Firefighters: NAACP must apologize"

Blood on Doc's Hands said:
Here is why Marvin “Doc” Cheatham, the Baltimore NAACP president and other hate-mongers are responsible for the perpetuation of racism and ultimately the death of a fire cadet. Standards are established to ensure consistency and fairness. In the case of the Fire Department, they are essential for the safety of all those involved. Minimum physical requirements help (no guarantee) see that persons are capable of performing strenuous tasks. They are based on ability, not race. When Doc and others scream that standards should be lowered and requirements ignored to ensure that a certain group be better represented, they compromise safety. Racheal M. Wilson WAS murdered as her family attests. But it wasn’t by the travesty of safety violations that occurred on Feb 9th. She was ill-fated the day they allowed her to continue with training while she did not meet the established physical standards – standards that were in place to be followed – to ensure her safety, regardless of her race.

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7:35 PM MST on Tue., Dec. 4, 2007 re: "Firefighters: NAACP must apologize"

Boy Cries Wolf said:
Examiner…Why doesn’t the article mention the fact that this firefighter-paramedic apprentice has been employed for SIX years when the deadline to meet the requirement or be fired is THREE years? Why is he being fired now on this failure to pass the test? Could it be that this is an agreement made by the Fire Department…possibly to avoid criminal charges? The NAACP and the Vulcan Blazers are little more than hate-mongers who make a generous salary perpetuating the myth that everything in the world is the result of racism. Gentlemen – read “The Boy Who Cried Wolf”. By constantly screaming racism without educating yourself on the facts of each case your ignorance causes more damage than good. I have to believe that the majority of people you “serve” are embarrassed and harmed by your actions. It makes the real cases of racism, which any reasonable person would admit certainly do still exist, seem so much less disconcerting.

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6:57 PM MST on Tue., Dec. 4, 2007 re: "Firefighters: NAACP must apologize"

Examiner Reader said:
This proves that the N.A.A,C.P itself is nothing more then a racist orginization and should be recognized as such. They dont hold there own people accountable for HATE crimes. They see racisum as white to black but not the other way

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4:33 PM MST on Tue., Dec. 4, 2007 re: "Firefighters: NAACP must apologize"

Examiner Reader said:
The K.K.K story is so true

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4:18 PM MST on Tue., Dec. 4, 2007 re: "Firefighters: NAACP must apologize"

Examiner Reader said:
Two wrongs dont make it right!

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4:18 PM MST on Tue., Dec. 4, 2007 re: "Firefighters: NAACP must apologize"

richard f said:
Thanks for removing my remarks I made earlier. What's the matter does it bother you that the KKK and NAACP are the same. One hates Blacks and the other Whites.As long as these groups only look at one side of the story,they will be a pain in everyone's butt.

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3:54 PM MST on Tue., Dec. 4, 2007 re: "Firefighters: NAACP must apologize"

Examiner Reader said:
Cheatham must apologize to all citizens publicy for his racist comments!!

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3:14 PM MST on Tue., Dec. 4, 2007 re: "Firefighters: NAACP must apologize"

Examiner Reader said:
For once the race card did not work.But do not hold your breath for a single person to apologize.That will never happen.It is not in there nature.No charges will be brought against this man either.This is the reason we can not get along.they get away with everything.(plain and simple)

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2:48 PM MST on Tue., Dec. 4, 2007 re: "Firefighters: NAACP must apologize"

Examiner Reader said:
Update the employee handbook/guidelines and enforce employee conduct codes in addition to suing the NAACP for slander and Maynard for the cost of the investigation at the least.

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2:40 PM MST on Tue., Dec. 4, 2007 re: "Firefighters: NAACP must apologize"

Examiner Reader said:
This proves that the N.A.A,C.P itself is nothing more then a racist orginization and should be recognized as such. They dont hold there own people accountable for HATE crimes. They see racisum as white to black but not the other way

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2:17 PM MST on Tue., Dec. 4, 2007 re: "Firefighters: NAACP must apologize"

Examiner Reader said:
Oh, how the worm turns....everything about this case is so ironic that you can't help but laugh. Put that card away!

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12:48 PM MST on Tue., Dec. 4, 2007 re: "Firefighters: NAACP must apologize"

Examiner Reader said:
This is a federal offense.

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11:20 AM MST on Tue., Dec. 4, 2007 re: "Black apprentice left noose"

Bottom line said:
Excuse me, but didn't Maynard file a false police report? Excuse me NAACP, Cheatham, Burris and Sheila Dixon, but isn't that a crime? Why is Maynard not being punished for his crime? Meanwhile, Sheila Dixon gets sworn in as Mayor and recites an oath to hold up the Constitution. Go figure.

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11:16 AM MST on Tue., Dec. 4, 2007 re: "Firefighters: NAACP must apologize"

Stand Firm said:
Bob Sledgeski and the firefighters' union, don't give up seeking an apology from the guilty. Stay on the issue and don't let it drop until Cheatham, Burris and the NAACP all DO THE RIGHT THING and apologize for the harm their inaction, along with Maynard's racist claims, have caused this firehouse and community. Stand Firm and NEVER give up in seeking what is right.

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11:09 AM MST on Tue., Dec. 4, 2007 re: "Firefighters: NAACP must apologize"

Truth be Told said:
The last refuge of a SCOUNDREL is to shout racism. Cheatham, the NAACP, Burris and the Vulcan Blazers silence and refusal to apologize speaks volumes about who the real scoundrels are. I ask Cheatham and Burris how they can honestly look at themselves in the mirror. Do you teach your children to apologize when they wrong an innocent person or do you tell them not to? Shame on all of you.

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11:00 AM MST on Tue., Dec. 4, 2007 re: "Firefighters: NAACP must apologize"

Examiner Reader said:
Your words are as beautiful as you are. I am white and I don't think of body color about anything. I owe everyone manners as I would expect everyone to owe me. You don't have to like me, you only have to hold the door open for me as I would you when entering or exiting a building. Isn't there enough to worry about without worrying about everones body color?

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10:51 AM MST on Tue., Dec. 4, 2007 re: "Firefighters: NAACP must apologize"

consertative said:
cheatham and the naacp are the real racists. of course now that a black guy did it, neither cheatham or the naacp has called for his head. show us one neighborhood where whites left and blacks moved in and the quality of life improved. does not exsist.

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9:41 AM MST on Tue., Dec. 4, 2007 re: "Firefighters: NAACP must apologize"

Examiner Reader said:
9:34 All the NAACP wants is publicity. There time and use to the community has come to an end. Not just publicity they want your jobs. Thgey use to the community will not end till someone steps up and sues them.

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9:34 AM MST on Tue., Dec. 4, 2007 re: "Firefighters: NAACP must apologize"

Examiner Reader said:
All the NAACP wants is publicity. There time and use to the community has come to an end.

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9:33 AM MST on Tue., Dec. 4, 2007 re: "Firefighters: NAACP must apologize"

Examiner Reader said:
they always do this look at the duke thing the sniper thing it just had to be a white guy

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9:33 AM MST on Tue., Dec. 4, 2007 re: "Firefighters: NAACP must apologize"

Examiner Reader said:
Media Hounds with an evil agenda, solution: the NAACP, Sharpton and Jackson all need a day or a few in court.

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9:28 AM MST on Tue., Dec. 4, 2007 re: "Black apprentice left noose"

Bob said:
And here they were ready to string up every white guy! Why is it when something like this happens NACCP jumps in before hearing the evidence! Like the Duke University rape, etc.!!!

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9:27 AM MST on Tue., Dec. 4, 2007 re: "Firefighters: NAACP must apologize"

Examiner Reader said:
Gossip monger, casting asperation. The NAACP of course is the issue of apology and the noose hoaxer, both as prejudice and skeeming as they come.

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9:26 AM MST on Tue., Dec. 4, 2007 re: "Firefighters: NAACP must apologize"

Examiner Reader said:
NAACP is a joke and has no credibility. This is another example why. They were wrong, they should apologize. Oh yeah, blacks don't have to apologize. Duke players are still waiting.

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9:22 AM MST on Tue., Dec. 4, 2007 re: "Firefighters: NAACP must apologize"

Examiner Reader said:
Who is not sincere or genuine? The firefighters? Please cite the inside knowledge you have of this story?

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9:10 AM MST on Tue., Dec. 4, 2007 re: "Firefighters: NAACP must apologize"

Examiner Reader said:
Why apologize, they are not sincere or genuine.

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9:07 AM MST on Tue., Dec. 4, 2007 re: "Firefighters: NAACP must apologize"

Examiner Reader said:
Henry Burris in a ignoramus if the highest regard.

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9:06 AM MST on Tue., Dec. 4, 2007 re: "Firefighters: NAACP must apologize"

Examiner Reader said:
Why do people think they do not have to apologize when they make ignorant assumptions about people using only hearsay information? You DO need to apolgize sir!! ...“I do not condone it,” he said. “However, I do not apologize for the information I got concerning the noose, and, as I said when I found out about the noose, it was just a symptom of racism in the fire department.”

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9:04 AM MST on Tue., Dec. 4, 2007 re: "Firefighters: NAACP must apologize"

Examiner Reader said:
Let the courts handle this one,NAACP and the noose hoaxer. That is what our justice system is for.

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9:03 AM MST on Tue., Dec. 4, 2007 re: "Firefighters: NAACP must apologize"

Examiner Reader said:
NO ONE cares about the NAACP. They are a bunch of elitest, rich, useless and irrelevant black racists.

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8:59 AM MST on Tue., Dec. 4, 2007 re: "Firefighters: NAACP must apologize"

Sven said:
"Doc" is a racist with a job he is protecting!

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8:33 AM MST on Tue., Dec. 4, 2007 re: "Firefighters: NAACP must apologize"

Examiner Reader said:
5:36 AM examiner reader said: Yes, there is racism in the Baltimore City Fire Department. The black firefighters are targetting the white firefighters for unfair treatment, and that is racism at its core. There is no unfair treatment it is a hoax and a pwer card used by many in all areas life. Stomping out the gossip is not easy and getting to the truth and facts is never an easy task for anyone. A Power trip for too many of the ego's will prevent this. Bankrupt the NAACP is an option. Were are all the law suits for slander over the years from Jackson and Shapton and the NAACP. Step up whiteys. Get organized. Put it in writing and dispute the issue within 30 days of teh accusations.

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8:24 AM MST on Tue., Dec. 4, 2007 re: "Firefighters: NAACP must apologize"

Don said:
Maybe the NAACP can get Don Imus to apologize for them, heck he's been doing it for sometime, Al and Jesse could help with a few kind words to the firefighters. It would help heal some of the wounds

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8:22 AM MST on Tue., Dec. 4, 2007 re: "Firefighters: NAACP must apologize"

A citizen who sees firemen as heros said:
I personally don't give a damn who rescues me if I am in trouble. Color of skin will not matter to anyone who is being carried out of a fire or extricated from a car accident, or any other rescue scenarios. That being said, the naacp has done the whole country, and especially the Baltimore Fire Department a great disservice by acting like jerks and speaking before any facts were known. This doc guy should resign.

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7:12 AM MST on Tue., Dec. 4, 2007 re: "Firefighters: NAACP must apologize"

Examiner Reader said:
There are too many African Americans who will immediately jump on the racism bandwagon rather than working hard to show that affirmative action policies are unnecessary. Maynard failed his EMT-I certification, should he get a pass simply because he is black? Whites don't, neither to Asians and Latinos, so why should Blacks fall into the "needs help to pass" category? The NAACP needs to apologize to all of America for it baseless accusations of racism, when many of the problems lie within the community they allegedly serve.

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6:40 AM MST on Tue., Dec. 4, 2007 re: "Firefighters: NAACP must apologize"

Conscious Reader said:
An apology from the NAACP? How 'bout something even better than that, another nail in their coffin. The more they present themselves as the little boy that cried wolf, or the sky is falling...the sooner we can close the door on what they have become. Maybe we can get an organization that will bring us together, instead of continually wedging us apart. I truly hope that other races don't view them as the mouthpiece of all Black Americans. They aren't. We are as disgusted with their incompetence and betrayal of the organizations true intent as many of our other fellow Americans. I want to just one day be able to say I am American and that will be good enough. I know that the NAACP is no longer the vehicle to help get us there. Let them keep doing things like this, making quick and rash decisions, and we will be able to move to another chapter in race relations in this country. One less accusatory, and more healing and understanding.

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6:22 AM MST on Tue., Dec. 4, 2007 re: "Firefighters: NAACP must apologize"

Jeff, an Independent said:
Good luck getting an apology from this group of arrogant nincompoops. They need to be disbanded along with the ACLU.

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6:15 AM MST on Tue., Dec. 4, 2007 re: "Firefighters: NAACP must apologize"

avid reader said:
The NAACP missed it this time and they must set the record straight by apologizing. I used to be a card carrying member of the NAACP but I stopped because of bad judgements that they made. Dco, get up off of your pride and apologize today.

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5:36 AM MST on Tue., Dec. 4, 2007 re: "Firefighters: NAACP must apologize"

examiner reader said:
Yes, there is racism in the Baltimore City Fire Department. The black firefighters are targetting the white firefighters for unfair treatment, and that is racism at its core.

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8:33 PM MST on Mon., Dec. 3, 2007 re: "Black apprentice left noose"

Examiner Reader said:
Ooops, did I miss the results of the cheating scandal on the fire department's promotional test or has that been forgotten about already?

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6:30 PM MST on Mon., Dec. 3, 2007 re: "Black apprentice left noose"

Examiner Reader said:
This is really sad. Anyone accused of committing a hate crime or falsely creates one should be tried the same. It has the same damaging afeect and creates fear. Fire this guy and prosecute him !

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4:50 PM MST on Mon., Dec. 3, 2007 re: "Black apprentice left noose"

Examiner Reader said:
So, what is the punishment meted for a hate hoax?

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3:55 PM MST on Mon., Dec. 3, 2007 re: "Black apprentice left noose"

Examiner Reader said:
This proves that the N.A.A,C.P itself is nothing more then a racist orginization and should be recognized as such. They dont hold there own people accountable for HATE crimes. They see racisum as white to black but not the other way.

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3:17 PM MST on Mon., Dec. 3, 2007 re: "Black apprentice left noose"

Examiner Reader said:
I wonder if this fits the NAACP's fluid definition of "racism." I also wonder if the perpetrator had been white, whether Doc Cheatum would be suggesting he needed mental help?

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