TWM provides demo videos

October 10, 3:37 PMBreakthrough Energy ExaminerSterling Allan

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A demonstration video set by TWM Technology LLC shows two of their motor-generators in operation, though not necessarily showing convincing overunity. The company claims that the system can provide enough power from its secondary coil to both keep the battery source replenished and to provide extra energy for practical use.

A screenshot from the videos, with the pending patent figure in the background.

We have received a brief three-part demonstration video set from TWM Technology LLC, who we reported on last Tuesday.  They are the ones who claim that their motor-generator provides enough power from its secondary coil to both keep the battery source replenished and to provide extra energy for practical use.  

They claim that in a test last January they ran a moped for an hour, around 350 pounds of weight in all, and that the battery had the same charge after the test as it did before the test.

They say they are within a month from having a patent awarded on the technology. The diagram in the background in the videos is Figure 1 from that patent.

Here is an email excerpt that I sent to them last night to get some clarification and to make some suggestions for them.  It is followed by a response by TWM President, Todd Thorpe, who is the person talking and being shown in the videos.

I got your video files. Three different segments in all.

I now have the following:
- DEMO - Bonus 01.mpg
- Picture_001.mov
- Picture_002.mov

DEMO... is explained pretty well verbally.

Now what we need is a description of what is being shown in Picture_001 and Picture_002. 

What are the meters? What are they showing? With the background noise (motor) it is hard to tell what you are saying.

We'll want a complete set of information for each video:

- input energy, as shown by which meters
- output energy, as shown by which meters
- rotation speed of motor

Explain what you mean by "hollow core" motor (a sentence or two is fine).

It looks like the batteries are connected in series. How many are there (I see 6 in the DEMO video, and I presume it is the same in the others)? What is the rating of each battery? What is the total voltage?

Be prepared for some skepticism due to having such a large battery array running the motor. Batteries can be a tricky medium. A battery with no load, just sitting on the shelf, can show its voltage going up. I've seen that before. The true test of a battery is the "battery capacity" test, which hits it with a momentary load and calculates how the battery responds, and gives a percentage result. Here's the instrument I use, as recommended by John Bedini and Peter Lindemann. 

Showing battery voltage going up doesn't really show anything. It's easy to get battery voltage to go up or down in extremes when you first hit it with a load or a charge. It's called "surface charge" and is like suds on the top of a drink. It's just fluff. The "battery capacity" is the true measure of the state of power in a battery.

Power, electrically speaking is a function of amps x volts x power factor (is a fraction).

Your demonstrations as given, are not adequate to show that you are generating or harvesting excess energy (more out than in).

At some point, it would be good to shoot a video in which you test all the batteries beforehand in this manner, then run the motor with as heavy of a load as it can handle for about five minutes, while also charging the batteries, then test the charge capacity on all the batteries again and show that they have gone up, not down. That would be a very convincing video. It would show the self-looping, with energy left over (powering the bulbs). In that video, you would also want to make sure to show all around the set-up to rule out hidden wires. The legs of a table, for example should be transparent, and the tabletop should be glass, if possible, so that there is no possibility of hidden wires.

Where you have one set of batteries for the input, and one set for the output, having to rotate them from front to back, the above demonstration gets more complicated. You'll need to add another step. Run the same experiment again, but this time swap the output batteries with the input batteries. At the end, the net capacity on the entire array will need to be greater than at the beginning, to show what you are claiming.  [If the net battery capacity drops some, then people will not be able to know that this drop is less than would happen if free energy were not being harvested from the environment, unless they are experts in those particular battery types.]

I played with this kind of stuff for three months a few years ago when I launched the Bedini SG open source project. I got quite excited several times, thinking I was seeing overunity, but whenever I waited long enough, and tested properly, the system always showed a net loss in power, as conventional science would predict. In other words, I could not prove with my system that some kind of external (free) energy was being harvested. I did see some interesting effects, but nothing practical.

What is good about these videos is that they give us a visual on your set-up, to get us oriented as to the size of the motor-generator, the batteries running it and being charged, the input and output, the sound of the motor running.

One thing I will say is that your motors look really nice. You've done a good job in presentation in that regard. Prototypes can be quite ugly. Yours are not ugly. Your patent figure (if that is what it is), also looks professionally done.

Here is Todd Thorpe's response Oct. 9, 2009 to the above email.
(slightly edited)

The demo shows a 100 watt light bulb being lit off of 1 set of output secondary coil leads. There are 4 more sets at which you could load another4 bulbs with. The rpms should have been displayed. We use a total of 8 batteries, 4 for each side. We put 48 volts into positive side and 48 volts into negative side with a central ground grounding out both sides. 

Hollow-core is the electromagnet itself. No iron, it's made of wood, achieving 14,000 plus rpms that poc (proof of concept) is estimated 30% of its capabilities.  When we sensorize models we will eliminate backlash voltage (back emf) adding efficiency. 

We have been using these batteries for three years to demo this motor. 

I will send you another video, for those were just tests, demonstrating everything in detail showing it under load, charging another separate battery pack with output side. 

In each motor there 10 coils (electromagnets) which not only drive the motor with a DC input/pulse, and the same 10 coils absorb an output AC power through secondary wire leads. Each coil has a primary wire with positive and negative side and also a secondary wire (output) generator leads. 

Thus far, we recycle our own energy that just DC pulsed input side 48 volts to positive side, 48 volts to negative side (live positive/live negative) with a central ground that is both positive and negative. So what you're seeing is energy used to drive motor then absorbed in to secondary's rectified and routed to a capacitor pulse with modulation.  We control output voltage through capacitor flashes 205 volts out.

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