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Nancy Pelosi views on illegal immigration rejected by Americans


House Speaker Nancy Pelosi/AP Photo

A recent poll by Rasmussen Reports shows that sixty percent (60%) of U.S. voters now have an unfavorable opinion of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, including 42% very unfavorable.

One of the things that may be hurting Pelosi is a recent speech she made in San Francisco about the rights of illegal immigrants to a mostly Hispanic audience.

She was invited to speak to the group by Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill) as part of his 17-city, cross-country tour called United Families which he said

... is intended to put a human face on the immigration debate.

Gutierrez has been collection petitions that ask President Obama to

...stop the immigration raids and deportations that are tearing our marriage, families and children apart.

 

At that time, Pelosi condemned the work of Internal Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents for inappropriate conduct toward illegal immigrants for rounding them up at their homes or in workplaces.

She said

It must be stopped...what value system is this?  I think it is un-American.

Before a cheering crowd, Pelosi said

 

We have to have a change in policy and practice and again...I can't say enough, the raids must end.  The raids must end.

 

The crowd answered with

Si se puede...Yes, we can."

That Pelosi's negative ratings may have much to do with her illegal immigration views.  A March 2009  Rasmussen poll showed

  • the majority of Americans do favor stricter enforcement of the nation's immigration laws.
  • 67% of Americans would favor local police conducting surprise raids where immigrants congregate daily to find work. Only 24% disagree with the practice.
  • 68% of Americans favor stricter sanctions against companies that hire undocumented workers. Only 22% oppose stricter sanctions.
  • 79% of voters think the United States should beef up its military presence on the Mexican border.
  • 73% of voters think police should automatically check a person's immigration status during traffic violations.
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For a record of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's voting record

http://www.ontheissues.org/CA/Nancy_Pelosi.htm

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  • Mad Mommy 2 years ago
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    From the tone of Nancy Pelosi's speach, I can only assume that the rights of illegal immigrants are more important than the rights of American citizens. Why does she think that certain laws should just be overlooked so that the law breakers don't suffer for their actions? Are there other laws she just wants to ignore? ID theft, driving without a license....tax evasion. Pelosi needs to rethink her opinion when our citizens are struggling to find jobs and illegal immigrants are flooding into the country, taking jobs from Americans that also have families to feed. Americans will be paying the taxes back to the government not the Mexicans....Mexicans just send all that money to Mexico, TAX FREE. How many stimulus dollars will just go directly to Mexico to feed foreign families? How many American workers will not get a dime? Stinker! American taxpayers are disappointed in her!
    Whose interests does she represent? The illegal immigrants or the citizens that she is supposed to represent? If she thinks she's ever going to get elected again..... she better rethink her position.

    Mrs. West Reader Los Angeles, Ca

  • Bernie 2 years ago
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    According to Pelosi, illegal aliens should have the rights of American citizens. Shame on her. How dare she speak for aliens who do not belong here at all. Illegal immigration has caused many of our current problems and she has the audacity is say it is "un-American" to condemn illegal immigration. She does not represent my views and with her attitude, she should be thrown out of office. Americans need to vote her and her supporters in Congress out. We need representation that supports the American taxpayer, not the illegal parasites who feed off of us.

  • Native American 2 years ago
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    Martha are you a Immigration Lawyer ? What are your Qualifications on immigration Laws? If you have none don't write about things that you are IGNORANT about.

    Also, You are here ILLEGALLY, When are YOU LEAVING MY COUNTRY ?

  • Truth 2 years ago
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    Undocumented immigrants paying more taxes than you think!!

    Eight million Undocumented immigrants pay Social Security, Medicare and income taxes. Denying public services to people who pay their taxes is an affront to America’s bedrock belief in fairness. But many “pull-up-the-drawbridge” politicians want to do just that when it comes to Undocumenetd immigrants.

    The fact that Undocumented immigrants pay taxes at all will come as news to many Americans. A stunning two thirds of Undocumented immigrants pay Medicare, Social Security and personal income taxes.

    Yet, nativists like Congressman Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., have popularized the notion that illegal aliens are a colossal drain on the nation’s hospitals, schools and welfare programs — consuming services that they don’t pay for.

    In reality, the 1996 welfare reform bill disqualified Undocumented immigrants from nearly all means tested government programs including food stamps, housing assistance, Medicaid and Medicare-funded hospitalization.

    The only services that illegals can still get are emergency medical care and K-12 education. Nevertheless, Tancredo and his ilk pushed a bill through the House criminalizing all aid to illegal aliens — even private acts of charity by priests, nurses and social workers.

    Potentially, any soup kitchen that offers so much as a free lunch to an illegal could face up to five years in prison and seizure of assets. The Senate bill that recently collapsed would have tempered these draconian measures against private aid.

    But no one — Democrat or Republican — seems to oppose the idea of withholding public services. Earlier this year, Congress passed a law that requires everyone who gets Medicaid — the government-funded health care program for the poor — to offer proof of U.S. citizenship so we can avoid “theft of these benefits by illegal aliens,” as Rep. Charlie Norwood, R-Ga., puts it. But, immigrants aren’t flocking to the United States to mooch off the government.

    According to a study by the Urban Institute, the 1996 welfare reform effort dramatically reduced the use of welfare by undocumented immigrant households, exactly as intended. And another vital thing happened in 1996: the Internal Revenue Service began issuing identification numbers to enable illegal immigrants who don’t have Social Security numbers to file taxes.

    One might have imagined that those fearing deportation or confronting the prospect of paying for their safety net through their own meager wages would take a pass on the IRS’ scheme. Not so. Close to 8 million of the 12 million or so illegal aliens in the country today file personal income taxes using these numbers, contributing billions to federal coffers.

    No doubt they hope that this will one day help them acquire legal status — a plaintive expression of their desire to play by the rules and come out of the shadows. What’s more, aliens who are not self-employed have Social Security and Medicare taxes automatically withheld from their paychecks.

    Since undocumented workers have only fake numbers, they’ll never be able to collect the benefits these taxes are meant to pay for. Last year, the revenues from these fake numbers — that the Social Security administration stashes in the “earnings suspense file” — added up to 10 percent of the Social Security surplus.

    The file is growing, on average, by more than $50 billion a year. Beyond federal taxes, all illegals automatically pay state sales taxes that contribute toward the upkeep of public facilities such as roads that they use, and property taxes through their rent that contribute toward the schooling of their children.

    The non-partisan National Research Council found that when the taxes paid by the children of low-skilled immigrant families — most of whom are illegal — are factored in, they contribute on average $80,000 more to federal coffers than they consume. Yes, many illegal migrants impose a strain on border communities on whose doorstep they first arrive, broke and unemployed.

    To solve this problem equitably, these communities ought to receive the surplus taxes that federal government collects from immigrants. But the real reason border communities are strained is the lack of a guest worker program.

    Such a program would match willing workers with willing employers in advance so that they wouldn’t be stuck for long periods where they disembark while searching for jobs. The cost of undocumented aliens is an issue that immigrant bashers have created to whip up indignation against people they don’t want here in the first place.

    With the Senate having just returned from yet another vacation and promising to revisit the stalled immigration bill, politicians ought to set the record straight: Illegals are not milking the government. If anything, it is the other way around.

    The Undocumented Immigrants pay the exact same amount of taxes like you and me when they buy Things, rent a house, fill up gas, drink a beer or wine, buy appliances, play the states lottery and mega millions . Below are the links to just a few sites that will show you exactly how much tax you or the Undocumented Immigrant pays , so you see they are NOT FREELOADERS, THEY PAY TAXES AND TOLLS Exactly the same as you, Now if you take out 10% from your states /city Budget what will your city/state look like financially ?

    Stop your folly thinking , you are wise USE YOUR WISDOM to see the reality. They pay more taxes than you think, Including FEDERAL INCOME TAX using a ITN Number that is given to them by the IRS, Social Security Taxes and State taxes that are withheld form their paychecks automatically.

    GAS Taxes paid by you & the Undocumented are the same. Go to and check out your states tax;

    Cigarette Taxes paid by you & the Undocumented are the same, check this out in :

    Food Taxes, paid by You & the Undocumented are the same in each state check your state :

    Clothing Sales Taxes, are the same paid by you & the Undocumented Immigrant;

    City Taxes, are the same paid by you or the Undocumented, since he pays rent and the LANDLORD pays the city :

    Beer Taxes, are the same paid by you or the Undocumented:

    See how little YOU KNOW ABOUT FACTS ?

  • Caring Citizen 2 years ago
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    Daniel Griswold: Immigration law should reflect our dynamic labor market

    Daniel Griswold is director of the Center for Trade Policy Studies at the Cato Institute in Washington. His writings on immigration can be found at www.freetrade.org; e-mail him at dgriswold@cato.org.

    Among its many virtues, America is a nation where laws are generally reasonable, respected and impartially enforced. A glaring exception is immigration.

    Today an estimated 12 million people live in the U.S. without authorization, 1.6 million in Texas alone, and that number grows every year. Many Americans understandably want the rule of law restored to a system where law-breaking has become the norm.

    The fundamental choice before us is whether we redouble our efforts to enforce existing immigration law, whatever the cost, or whether we change the law to match the reality of a dynamic society and labor market.

    Low-skilled immigrants cross the Mexican border illegally or overstay their visas for a simple reason: There are jobs waiting here for them to fill, especially in Texas and other, faster growing states. Each year our economy creates hundreds of thousands of net new jobs – in such sectors as retail, cleaning, food preparation, construction and tourism – that require only short-term, on-the-job training.

    At the same time, the supply of Americans who have traditionally filled many of those jobs – those without a high school diploma – continues to shrink. Their numbers have declined by 4.6 million in the past decade, as the typical American worker becomes older and better educated.

    Yet our system offers no legal channel for anywhere near a sufficient number of peaceful, hardworking immigrants to legally enter the United States even temporarily to fill this growing gap. The predictable result is illegal immigration

    In response, we can spend billions more to beef up border patrols. We can erect hundreds of miles of ugly fence slicing through private property along the Rio Grande. We can raid more discount stores and chicken-processing plants from coast to coast. We can require all Americans to carry a national ID card and seek approval from a government computer before starting a new job.

    Or we can change our immigration law to more closely conform to how millions of normal people actually live.

    Crossing an international border to support your family and pursue dreams of a better life is not an inherently criminal act like rape or robbery. If it were, then most of us descend from criminals. As the people of Texas know well, the large majority of illegal immigrants are not bad people. They are people who value family, faith and hard work trying to live within a bad system.

    When large numbers of otherwise decent people routinely violate a law, the law itself is probably the problem. To argue that illegal immigration is bad merely because it is illegal avoids the threshold question of whether we should prohibit this kind of immigration in the first place.

    We've faced this choice on immigration before. In the early 1950s, federal agents were making a million arrests a year along the Mexican border. In response, Congress ramped up enforcement, but it also dramatically increased the number of visas available through the Bracero guest worker program. As a result, apprehensions at the border dropped 95 percent. By changing the law, we transformed an illegal inflow of workers into a legal flow.

    For those workers already in the United States illegally, we can avoid "amnesty" and still offer a pathway out of the underground economy. Newly legalized workers can be assessed fines and back taxes and serve probation befitting the misdemeanor they've committed. They can be required to take their place at the back of the line should they eventually apply for permanent residency.

    The fatal flaw of the 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act was not that it offered legal status to workers already here but that it made no provision for future workers to enter legally.

    Immigration is not the only area of American life where a misguided law has collided with reality. In the 1920s and '30s, Prohibition turned millions of otherwise law-abiding Americans into lawbreakers and spawned an underworld of moon-shining, boot-legging and related criminal activity. (Sound familiar?) We eventually made the right choice to tax and regulate alcohol rather than prohibit it.

    In the 19th century, America's frontier was settled largely by illegal squatters. In his influential book on property rights, The Mystery of Capital, economist Hernando de Soto describes how these so-called extralegals began to farm, mine and otherwise improve land to which they did not have strict legal title. After failed attempts by the authorities to destroy their cabins and evict them, federal and state officials finally recognized reality, changed the laws, declared amnesty and issued legal documents conferring title to the land the settlers had improved.

    As Mr. de Soto wisely concluded: "The law must be compatible with how people actually arrange their lives." That must be a guiding principle when Congress returns to the important task of fixing our immigration laws.

    Daniel Griswold is director of the Center for Trade Policy Studies at the Cato Institute in Washington. His writings on immigration can be found at www.freetrade.org; e-mail him at dgriswold@cato.org.

  • MaryJ 2 years ago
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    GAS Taxes paid by you & the Undocumented are the same. Go to and check out your states tax;

    Cigarette Taxes paid by you & the Undocumented are the same, check this out in :

    Food Taxes, paid by You & the Undocumented are the same in each state check your state :

    Clothing Sales Taxes, are the same paid by you & the Undocumented Immigrant;

    City Taxes, are the same paid by you or the Undocumented, since he pays rent and the LANDLORD pays the city :

    Beer Taxes, are the same paid by you or the Undocumented:

    See how little YOU KNOW ABOUT FACTS ?
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    This is chickenscratch compared to what native-born, law-abiding, taxpaying American citizens pay in taxes. I pay 20K in state income taxes alone, plus 8K in property taxes on top of that. That doesn't include federal, which is a nother 30K or so chunk. THEN I pay sales taxes. In addition, I've been a taxpayer for 30 years, whereas Pedro from Oaxaca who squeezed under the border a year ago can never hope to put in what I've put in over the past 30 years. The idea that Pedro is paying his fair share with his piddly little sales taxes on ciggies and beer is laughable. But then, the open borders crowd has never been known for their math skills.

  • Truth 2 years ago
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    They also pay Income tax, state taxes and social security taxes, why did you not copy this and post it in your reply?

  • Caring Citizen 2 years ago
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    Ignorance is Bliss: Those who have NO CLUE or QULIFICATIONS about Immigration are those who show their IGNORANCE :)

    In the 20-plus years I have spent studying, lecturing and litigating immigration issues, two things have always amazed me. The first is the amount and intensity of hate spewed against undocumented workers. The second is the amount of misinformation that is published about them.

    On this second point, the quote from Mark Twain is illustrative. "A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." I suppose this may be true in part because misinformation, like a lie, requires no accuracy, validation or research; all of which are time-consuming practices.

    The recent letters alleging that all undocumented workers are "criminals," and specifically Veronica Suarez, whose plight was written about in the Tracy Press recently, is a criminal are factually incorrect.

    According to the facts (as stated in Sharon Franceschi’s Sept. 7 commentary) Saurez entered the U.S. on a valid visa, overstayed her visa when it expired, resulting in her unlawful immigration status. None of these acts, as stated by Franceschi, constitute a crime under federal or state law. Overstaying a valid visa under the Immigration and Naturalization Act is a civil violation of the law, not a criminal violation. Being in the U.S. in under undocumented status is not a criminal violation, but a civil violation of the INA.

    The facts, as stated by Franceschi, do not indicate that Suarez has committed any crime. To call her a criminal is erroneous at best, and libelous at worst.

    Furthermore, it is an Americanism that a person is innocent until proven guilty. So until Suarez (or any other undocumented person) is charged and found guilty of a crime, it would be inappropriate to call them "criminals."

    It is important to note that there is a very large difference between civil and criminal violations of law. The distinction is so important that the law makes the erroneous allegation that one has committed a crime of slander or libel, (which means liability is automatic even without proof of damages). One who violates the civil law is no more a criminal than someone who has breached a contract or accidentally damaged another’s property.

    It is true that entering the United States without inspection is a misdemeanor under the INA. The misdemeanor is completed once an individual’s entry is complete. Suarez, according to Franceschi, did not enter without inspection; she entered with a valid visa. According to U.S. Immigration and Citizenship Services statistics, about 40 percent of undocumented persons enter legally and overstay their visas (which, as stated above, is not a crime). Consequently, at least 40 percent of the undocumented population has committed no crime in regards to their immigration status.

    Therefore, one cannot assume that a person has committed a crime simply because they are undocumented.

    Franceschi is also in error in her allegation that getting married and having children while being undocumented in the U.S. is a violation of the law. It is not. Franceschi goes on to say that Suarez "apparently bought a house illegally." It is unlikely that Franceschi knows exactly how Suarez purchased her home. Consequently, any allegation of illegality is, at a minimum, irresponsible.

    It is also important to note that the Immigration and Citizenship Services doesn’t consider all undocumented persons criminals. When the Immigration and Citizenship Services publishes information about its enforcement activities involving undocumented workers, it are always sure to make a distinction between "criminal" and noncriminal aliens.

    Another myth is that the term "illegal aliens" is a term of art or is legal jargon. This term is not found anywhere in the INA or in Blacks Law Dictionary. The INA refers to undocumented persons as either an EWI (entered without inspection) or as someone who has overstayed their visa. "Illegal aliens" is a term invented by anti-immigrant groups designed to put undocumented persons in the worst possible light and to instill fear in Americans. It is intentionally designed to associate undocumented persons with criminality.

    This xenophobic view that undocumented persons are "simply criminals" comes from the historical stereotype that the foreign-born, especially undocumented immigrants, are responsible for higher crime rates. This misconception has deep roots in American public opinion and popular myth. This myth, however, is not supported empirically and has repeatedly been refuted by scientific studies. Both contemporary and historical data, (including U.S. governmental studies) have shown that immigration is associated with lower crime rates.

    The studies have uniformly shown that recent immigrants (including the undocumented) are less likely to be involved in violent crime, and that when there is an increase in immigration patterns, violent crime decreases. This has been shown to be true in large cities with heavy immigrant populations.

    In the most recent of these studies, The Myth of Immigrant Criminality and the Paradox of Assimilation (2007), from the Immigrant Policy Institute, it was found that among men age 18 to 39 (who are the vast majority of inmates in federal and state prisons and local jails), immigrants were five times less likely to be incarcerated than the native-born in 2000.

    During the Proposition 187 debate, then-Gov. Pete Wilson published statistics that stated that
    12 percent to 15 percent of the state prison population had Immigration and Citizenship Services holds or potential holds. The Department of Corrections analyst who compiled these numbers said Immigration and Citizenship Services holds are placed on inmates who were born outside of the U.S. (therefore 12 percent to 15 percent of the prison population was immigrants). The immigrant population at the time in California hovered at about 25 percent, showing immigrants were much less likely to be incarcerated than the native born in California.

    In short, the data shows you are much safer if your neighbor is an immigrant.

    Franceschi owes Suarez an apology. I am also surprised that the Tracy Press allowed a commentary to run without checking the facts. Although commentaries are designed to allow for the expression of differing opinions, the First Amendment is not as generous with misstatements of facts — especially when the facts can be libelous.

    For the immigration debate to be a healthy one, we should strive for a debate based on facts, not myth or tired stereotypes. We should also not let our position on this topic strip us of one of the great qualities we possess as people — the ability to be compassionate.

    Arturo E. Ocampo of Tracy has been a practicing attorney since 1985, with an expertise in immigration rights and class action lawsuits on behalf of immigrants, including the way the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 was implemented, Border Patrol’s raids and Proposition 187. He is director of diversity and equal employment opportunity for the San Jose/Evergreen Community College District.

  • Estoban 2 years ago
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    Pelosi, in her delusion of adequacy, has dug herself into a hole and doesn't know when to stop digging! She took an oath to uphold the Constitution and the laws her House has passed. She has insulted every law enforcer who puts his life on the line daily to enforce the rule of law that has made our country great and enduring. All illegal aliens have broken our laws. The majority of them are felons for having used stolen and or forged IDs to get jobs, licenses, etc. They use our tax money to get welfare through their 'anchor babies' and don't even have strong enough family values to take their children with them when they are caught and deported. With 12 to 13 million American workers out of a job and trying to feed, shelter and clothe their families, we do not need one illegal alien here depressing wages, taking jobs, using up our resources and tarnishing our quality of life. Instead there are 8 million illegal aliens taking American jobs and sending $60 billion annually ripped right out of our economy, to their homelands. The 1986 amnesty was a total failure. Never again!

  • Truth 2 years ago
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    Mary, you pay $ 60.000 in taxes which means you're doing OK. So why are you afraid of the poor food picking lawn mowing dish washing roofer if you are a PROFESSIONAL? you have nothing to worry about?
    DO you think that we all are follies ?? Thanks for the Laugh.

  • Delaware Bob 2 years ago
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    Pelosi is what you call a real idiot to want AMNESTY for the ILLEGAL ALIENS and their ILLEGAL ALIEN Children. She wants the raids to stop. I don't think there are enough of them.

    Now I can't say the ILLEGAL ALIENS are completely to blame for the shape of our economy, but they are a BIG part of the problem. The ILLEGAL ALIENS send BILLIONS upon BILLIONS out of this Country every year, money we will NEVER see again. Does this help our economy?

    How about the BILLIONS the American taxpayers fork out for the ILLEGAL ALIEN BABIES, the schooling of them, the medical care and the list goes on, and on, and on.

    How about the MILLIONS upon MILLIONS paid to jail ILLEGAL ALIENS for the crimes, then the cost to deport them. Does this help our economy?

    Then you have these activist groups, the Catholic Church and the ACLU that want AMNESTY for these ILLEGAL ALIENS. It would be absolute suicide for this Country if AMNESTY were granted to the 20 million or so ILLEGAL ALIENS. We have more and more people out of work everyday and they want to add another 20 million to this Country? I say, "NO"!

    If AMNESTY were ever granted to these 20 million ILLEGAL ALIENS, you can bet big money that 3 years from now, there would be ANOTHER 3-5 million ILLEGAL ALIENS demonstrating on our soil for AMNESTY.

    An end MUST come to this illegal immigration. The perfect tool we have so far is E-Verify. It MUST be used by ALL businesses and Government Social Services. EVERY employee must be checked! If they are illegal, they are to be dismissed!

    I believe it is time for all 50 States to pass a State law, like Arizona, Oklahoma, Mississippi, Missouri, South Carolina and a few others. It is time for these ILLEGAL ALIENS to go back to their home Country and get out of this Country. The problems they are causing will not go away until the ILLEGAL ALIENS are out of this Country. I think that is plain to see.

    NO ILLEGAL ALIEN HAS A RIGHT TO BE IN THIS COUNTRY FOR ANY REASON! It's time Pelosi learnt this!

  • Boli Brito 2 years ago
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    Nancy Pelosi says that children should not be left without their parents and or only source of support. I agree.

    Pelosi says that the Gestapo like, displaced agression style raids are unamerican. I agree.

    INSTEAD OF RAIDS, A letter or subpoena should be given to the "illegal immigrant"that he is in violation of the law. If upon that the defendant disobeys the command, he should be brought to jail to face charges and eventually deported.

    Next, congress should correct the specific immigration laws that allow for abuse of those least able to protect themselves, the poor; those who've been here they were just a child and or those who have shown a rehabilition; and a correction of those laws that attribute the term "aggravated felony" to simple misdeamenors.

    thank you

  • Don Quixote 2 years ago
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    Ms. Gore commits a false cause fallacy when she attributes Pelosi's recent comments on her decline in popularity. It's probably more due to the media hype over her learjet usage, as well as a general public malaise over the economy. In poll after poll, "illegal" immigration never makes the top 3-5 issues of concern.

    Gore also cites a Rasmussen poll but only cherry picks the parts that support her biased thesis. She neglects to say that in the very same poll, people are more concerned about drug violence than illegal immigration, and that a majority are concerned about the violation of civil rights during random documentation checks and raids. I find this sort of reporting disgusting and it adds absolutely nothing to the discourse.

    Btw, thanks to those few rays of light that dare post the truth here, like Caring Citizen, Boli Brito, Truth, Native American, etc. You're all a breath of air in a sea of clanging cymbals (like the author of this article) whose strategy is to silence all of our voices by loudly regurgitating ad nauseam the same pablum they lap up from the Angry White Male "journatainers" that dominate the radio airwaves and cable news. It's all propaganda, and I equate it to the Big Lie propaganda that Hitler used to airdrop over Germany about the Jews right before The Final Solution.

  • MaryJ 2 years ago
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    Mary, you pay $ 60.000 in taxes which means you're doing OK. So why are you afraid of the poor food picking lawn mowing dish washing roofer if you are a PROFESSIONAL? you have nothing to worry about?
    DO you think that we all are follies ?? Thanks for the Laugh.
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    Because I don't like having money stolen from me by foreign nationals and vote-greedy politicians and racist lobbying groups like La Raza. No one likes to be stolen from. I want my tax dollars to go to help American citizens who are struggling, NOT illegals. Also the argument that the illegals are paying their way for the social services they use out of their piddly sales taxes is so retarded, I had to correct it just for my own sanity. Whom do you think you are kidding with these lame and childish "arguments"?

  • sdfasdf 2 years ago
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    That article must've been written by a bigot. Not for wanting an end to illegal imigraiton in itself, mind you. But they All sound like that. "Large majority of Americans are on our side", portraying most of the population as rigid, merciless and callous. One could easily argue that Most Americans would Not support the raids if they saw the human consequences of them. And we all know that only a minority of bigots call all illegals "criminals", and show no empathy even for their youngest. Most Americans want an end to clandestine immigration, but ARE compassionate, which authors like this are Not.

  • Doug R. 2 years ago
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    I love the remark that somehow because being in the country illegally is a "civil" offense and not a criminal one that it changes. In my opinon I seen so many mexican flags, and mexican pride,people DEMANDING US citzenship, and things be in Spanish at marches. So lets do this. Lets get some MExican pride. Lets adopt Mexican immigration laws word for word--you know the country these illegals are so proud of!

    In Mexico being in the country illegally is a FELONY! So lets make felons out of all of them. I also do not care what its called what is the end result of being guilty of being in the country illegally? Answer usually is deportation. Continue the raids and make E-verify law. If these people can not find work they will leave.

  • Don Quixote 2 years ago
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    Doug, Mexico decriminalized undocumented immigration over a year ago. Your propaganda is very dated. Also, snopes and a few other groups have thoroughly discredited the myth that's been circulating around for awhile that Mexico is much tougher on its undocumented immigrants than we are. People like you enjoy hearing that because it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy about the round ups, raids, detentions and deportations we're doing. Please try to think for yourself instead of just blindly and unquestioningly accepting "facts" that square up with your prejudices and preconceived notion. Challenge your own beliefs.

  • DAD77 2 years ago
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    According to Americans for Legal Immigration, the state of California spends $7.7 billion on educating illegal immigrants. Thus, low-skill immigrant households received nearly three dollars in immediate benefits and services for each dollar in taxes paid.

  • DAD77 2 years ago
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    Our school are crowded with children of immigrants and it has had a huge impact on the quality of California schools. The graduation rate is down to 51% whereas in the 70's and 80's it was close to the highest in the nation.

    Is it worth destroying a whole generation of our citizen children’s educational years simply to have lower cost produce or cheap gardeners?

  • panola 2 years ago
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    I find it hypocritical that Nancy supports arresting Mexican drug dealers coming across the border even though many/most will result in the breaking up of families when the dealer is detained but calls it Un-American when illegal aliens sneak into the country, steal our identities, take our jobs and leeches off our social services that we pay for. Which of the two criminals is worse, the drug dealer or the illegal alien? Correct… the illegal alien is by far the worse of the two.

  • melina sochi 2 years ago
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    illegal immigants should be deported. t hey should be charged $20,000 for having immigrated to this country illegally. if they have no authorization to be here, they are illegal criminals.

  • stevo 2 years ago
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    From the L. A. Times
    1. 40% of all workers in L. A. County ( L. A. County has 10.2
    million people)are working for cash and not paying taxes. This
    is because they are predominantly illegal immigrants working
    without a green card.
    2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal
    aliens.
    3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are
    illegal aliens.
    4. Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal
    alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal , whose births were paid for by
    taxpayers.
    5. Nearly 35% of all inm ates in California detention centers are
    Mexican nationals here illegally
    6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living
    in garages.
    7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are illegal
    most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.
    8. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.
    9. 21 radio stations in L. A. are Spanish speaking.
    10. In L. A. County 5.1 million people speak English, 3.9
    million speak Spanish.
    There are 10.2 million people in L. A. County

    All 10 of the above are from the Los Angeles Times
    Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops, but 29%
    are on welfare. Over 70% of the United States ' annual
    population growth (and over 90% of California , Florida , and
    New York ) results from immigration. 29% of inmates in federal
    prisons are illegal aliens.

    We are a bunch of fools for letting this continue

  • flyonthewall 2 years ago
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    Pelosi took an oath to uphold the Constitution and the Laws of this country as did Gutierrez, Napolitano and every other politician. It is time they either start doing their jobs or resign. Americans will not tolerate another amnesty. These illegal aliens need to go home and to make Pelosi happy they must take their children with them. Call your representatives at 866-220-0044 and tell them No Amnesy. E-verify and 287(g) nationwide. Enforce our laws. numbersusa.com and americanpatrol.com

  • John Buck 2 years ago
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    I really hpoe to see the day when THIS wave of ILLEGALIMMIGRANTS start crying foul when the NEXT wave takes their jobs at a lower price, then they will know how it feels to be an American citizen.Also to you bleeding heart know it nothings YOUR facts are ones in contention not ours,many paragraphs of drivel doesn't make it LeGAL,I suggest you go south of the border and organize there,where your loyalty truley lies. In the meantime I hope your jobs are the first to be taken by the next wave.

  • harry.. 1 year ago
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    you guys always think ilegals are from mexico....what about canada but of course they are white....chinnese,i could go on an on....you're ill informed competion is global....its just plain
    hate, that's past from white's generation to generation....
    in the covered wagons, they were people from ireland,and other
    europeans counties...look what you did to the real americans
    the indians like myself...shame on you....

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