Mayweather connected often against Marquez. AP/R. Bowmer
If you want to believe that Floyd Mayweather Jr. has thrown the gauntlet down for the king in waiting, Manny Pacquiao you certainly can.
A masterful, dominating 12-round boxing performance on Saturday night in Las Vegas against Juan Manuel Marquez would be your evidence.
But Mayweather hand-picked his opponent, a man who best fights as a lightweight and threw money, no pun intended, at the problem.
As reported, the fighters agreed on a 144 lb. fight that really wasn't. In fact Mayweather could have weighed more than he did at weigh-in (146) and unless someone from the Nevada Boxing Commission was horrified, the fight could have gone on as expected.
Floyd's penalty was to pay his opponent a hefty six-figure penalty for each pound over the agreed upon weight. The contract was changed after the fact to 147 and both fighters signed off. So don't cry for Marquez, he knew what he was doing. As the ring announcers noted, Mayweather looked comfortable at around 150 which he probably exceeded by fight time. Marquez weighed in at 142 and might have looked a bit soft in the middle.
Marquez was unable to get near his opponent except if he happened to get lucky enough to turn him around and have him backed onto the ropes. That didn't happen often since Floyd made sure to stay near the center of the ring. Tactically the way to go for sure.
Add that to the reach advantage, the small height advantage and of course the weight difference and all you heard from the HBO announcers was the word "big". Mayweather is the bigger fighter, Jim Lampley kept saying. And he clearly was.
The pathetic percentage of blows landed by Marquez was embarrassing. If this had been a tennis match, it would have looked like Roger Federer playing at his peak against a guy who was still on the college tennis team.
But the tactic that ruled the night was the lasting impression of Mayweather's total domination in the minds of fans and those who decide who is the pound-for-pound best.
HBO's Max Kellerman tried to make that point at the post-bout interview in the ring and Mayweather would have none of it. Sounding more like a politician at a town hall meeting about supposed death panels, he wouldn't touch the facts and blamed the media for asking legitimate questions about a fight that truly had no weight limit.
Kellerman might have been out of line by trying to squeeze an admission out of the victor at that moment and it disintegrated to the point where Mayweather had the microphone shut off on him.
But Max got the last word when he claimed that the lasting impression of the beat-down we had just seen was illusory when compared to the weight and size differences between the two fighters.
Fans of Mayweather, he added shouldn't use this victory as a reason to claim that he's a slam-dunk to win against Manny, which in Kellerman's opinion was all Mayweather wanted to do.
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I don't get it...he is DAMNED if he DO, DAMNED if he DON'T. You guys will not give this guy any CREDIT (MAYWEATHER). I believe it was a masterful display of TECHINICAL BOXING for the most part for MAYWEATHER. The GUY he beat is the #2 p4P boxer in the WORLD...MAYWEATHER destroyed him. I bet if MANNIE and FLOYD box next year, and FLOYDS beat MANNY convincingly, everyone will say that MANNY is too small and FLOYD is being a BULLY.
Jeride: But just think of the great build up and debates prior to the inevitable Manny vs. Floyd match! Thanks for reading and commenting
Mayweather is a cheater big time. What's the satisfaction of beating a smaller guy who is so bloated and too slow for the extra weight he gained? Nothing, Zero.
Mayweather is now the P4P #1 cheater.
Fraud: now that's clever
Mayweather will not prove anything if he fights Pacquiao because Pacquiao is still considered the best of the small fighters comming from 106. Mayweather needs to fight fighters his own size or bigger like Pacquiao is doing. Paul williams is the true challenge for Floyd. Too late for Mosely . He is almost over the hill. Cotto (if he wins) is a good challenge for Floyd.
Floyd proved that he can beat an OLD BLOATED MIDGET (while floyds cheats on weight). AND THATS A FACT NO MATTER WHAT YOU GAYLOVERS SAY!!!!!
jmm knew about the cheatin' weight, but juan wants the money.
Very well written piece.
floyd gaycheater is the real champ in p4p cheater king of the univers.
want to fight kids and not fighting with true champ in his weight division..
manny wont fight cheater anyway, thats for sure.
to the author: if there's more center than the cherry, you're it!...
A lot of people had tied Marquez's fame down with Pacquiao's just because they went to war against each other at 130.
Now Pacquiao had stepped up to welter and people are still tying Marquez down to Pacquiao. They seem to be stuck with the perception that if Pacquiao could do it, so could Marquez. But Marquez failed to follow Pacquiao's lead.
Now that Marquez had fallen prey to Mayweather, people are questioning Pacquiao for something that he had no control of. Pacquiao wasn't controlling Marquez back there. Marquez just wasn't able to answer the weight shift puzzle.
I think Pacquiao's about to enter underdog status once more just because Marquez failed to answer his call. Which may not be such a bad thing.. because this could make Pacquiao more hungrier than before.
marquez is now nearly end of his carrer so his just grab the money to fight with the cheater.
he dont loose anything anyway just 1 non title fight.
cleaver marquezz.
mayweather has the ability of a great boxer but lack of aggression,killer instinct and initiative to finish his opponents thus affraid to engage or to gumble in order to win by TKO UNlike MANNY PAC.
He cheated on the weight, hand picked his opponent that is small and has never fought in welterweight before, and make sure that Marquez will not get a chance of hitting him :-) Thou shall not compare Manny's fight with marquez before under 130lbs alright you guys? :-)Wait until he fights someone like Manny, Cotto, Mosley and Margarito!
MAYWEATHER the Great Cheater will use his skills to beat the PACMAN...violate the agreed upon weight and refused to be weighed in before the fight..be careful PACMAN..examine every letter and word in your contract before fighting the biggest CHEATERS in the history of boxing. Floyd, JR is the son of a .........
floyd is a coward boxer in the planet why he did not accept the challenge of shane mosley. what the reason behind not answer the call of mosley.
THE gay didn't even pushed himself to go down to the catch weigh 144 lbs which was a little bit unfair to marquez considering a physical effect it would have done to may's body before by fight night.There is fraud intentions from may's camp.My suggestion is that the penalty should be higher for not achieving tha agreed weight( Make it half the guaranty money of a fighter).
A lot of people dont understand.....Floyd cancelled the 1st planned fight coz he couldnt make weight....3 months or so after...still cant make it...stupid Marquez got suckered into Honor and courage kinda stuff...he shouldve taken the money and run.....If manny fights him....and calls for 141 lbs ...the no fight clause if he gets over should take effect....all they want is $$$$ and not to have a competitive fight....I feel sorry for people who got suckered into watching that fight...coz its a total mismatch....people that keep track of boxing knows...theres no way JMM can win that particular fight.
What is he gonna say....I beat the best lightweight in the world? and not making weight....paying only $600,000 penalty to have a mismatch fight???? catch weight is created so there is equal opportunities for each fighter....Fraud Mayweater and his cronies took all the advantages and ran....poor JMM.
Oh, now Kellerman makes sense in his last statement ... it may have been different if PBF praised him instead of dissing him :)
The question is why Floyed had to cheat? Yes, he won, and now he got the title No.1 "Kingcheater" . He should not be in boxing he should be in the carnival doing circus acts with his father or talk show.
art ello of Jacksonvillert
Examiner Bio Mayweather buys a victory over Marquez and wants it to mean more when he was overweight and refused pre-fight weigh in? Despite his size and weight advantage he could only score one knockdown against marquez and yet want to mean it more? How many fanatics are still believing him after cheating marquez? wake up and don't be fooled with his rants.
marquez for me is stupid enough to have agreed to fight floyd after postponment in july because floyd cannot make weight. floyd is CHEATER marquez is CHEAPER and some fans still believing floyd are even CHEAPER talking praises without considering how he cheat marquez and the boxing fans. marquez was a willing sacrificial lamb to make floyd look good.
If and whenever Pacquiao and Mayweather Jr. will fight each other in the ring ,the contract should have specific claws that if he don't hit the agreed catch weight he should be fine in millions like what they had in ODLH fight wherein he(Oscar) really reach down the agreed weight but overshooted, just to be safe in the penalty. Marquez knows he can't but still took the fight for obvious reason he is getting old and getting rich.On the other hand Mayweather is really a zip lost record fighter ,so he wasn't able to come down to 144 lbs. agreed weight limit.During the actual fight it is pretty obvious that physically and in weight he is in big advantage.An eye popping mismatch and done.With Pacquiao ,if he beat Cotto he should take home the bigger part of the purse because Cotto is a legitimate weltherweight fighter and Marquez was not and never did.
Jeride: It's like you are saying that if the Klitschko's beats Manny, that would also be a "great" performance because Manny is the #1 P4P boxer?
I am not optimistic about a pbf-pacquiao fight. PBF may have a very good boxing skill but he won't face the Pac. He knows the Pac can beat him so he will just make lame excuses like steroids, Bob Arum, he's too small and got no skill, blah blah blah. If the fight should happen, the only way for floyd to beat Manny "convincingly", is to run around like chicken for 12 rounds. And oh, he might ask to fight at 154 so he can trash talk again that Pacman don't want to fight him (at 154 but he will surely omit to say that). Pounds-for-Pounds King? Yeah--- too much excess pounds he..he..he..
Jeride, it was a masterful display indeed, no doubt about it. But it was done to a bloated lightwt by a middlewt fighter. No glory in doing that
THATS WHAT YOU CALL THIS FIGHT "GLORY VS MONEY"..AND THE WINNER IS...MONEY!!! JMM SOLD HIMSELF TO FMJR, JUST TO SHOW THE WORLD THAT HE'S BACK...IF HIS INTENTION IS PURE, THEN WHY NOT MOSLEY, WILLIAMS OR MARGARITO? OR COTTO? THIS IS A SCRIPTED FIGHT BETWEEN THE HUNGRY AND HUNGRIER HUMAN BEING... IF YOU BELEIVE THIS FIGHT IS PURE..OH MY GOD, PLS MAKE UP YOUR MIND...
While JMM is a great champion, still he's way too slow and small to provide a stiff challenge. Floyd jr. winning over him is a given! Floyd jr. said afterwards he could still be better.. okay, next time try fighting a bigger man and knock him out!Manny Pacquiao needed only 19 rounds to win over 3 bigger and stronger men via thrilling TKO/KO's while it took Floyd jr. 12 rounds to defeat a smaller opponent by a boring UD!
The best way Floyd could convince anyone of his legitimacy as a "great" fighter is to answer the public's call for who he should fight next. Ali and Robinson would have. Joe Louis would have too. But he wont, cuz hes a puss, so he'll just relegate himself to fighting only fighters who he knows he has a distinctive advantage over, a la Julio Cesar Chavez JR.
Floyd Mayweather Jr. should go down to boxing history as the best gifted IDIOT that played the game. He has enough reason to proclaim himself the best there is but proves this by preferring to fight inferior fighters and punctuated it by beating a 36 year old boxer 2 weight classes below him; and even had the gall to cheat in doing so.. He clearly has the talent arguably better than current P4P king Manny Pacquiao. If MONEY Floyd badly needed MONEY he could have easily earn triple of what he got with Juan Miguel, at the same time put his hands where his mouth is, if he had the balls to fight and beat a former 106-pond fighter in MANNY. Fact is IF 32-yr old boxer billionaire (in pesos) Pacquiao beats COTTO and earn an unprecedented 7th title in a 7th weight category, there wouldn't be enough reason to fight and glorify a foolish untitled boxer in Floyd Mayweather Jr, specially if Manny decide by then to train his winning ways instesd in Philippine politics.
Paula is perfectly on target. PBF hatched the grand plan as soon as Marquez called him out due to desperation in calling out Pacquiao. PBF wanted to hype his status prior to "possible" negotiation with the Pacman. But read this, the way Pacquiao beat Hatton and if beats Cotto too, PBF is going to make sure the fight with him is not going to happen. Considering all these scenarios, PBF knows Pacman at his skill stage, can beat Marquez worse that he did, and likewise beat his mouth and his father's wide open. Marquez unfortunately was just a willing retiree to PBF's show. Every logical writer knows this based on facts!
Floyd jr. had the chance to end the fight emphatically in the 2nd round after he knocked JMM down.. but in typical Floyd jr. fashion, he didn't take the risk and opted to play it safe.. And there lies the difference between Pacman and Floyd jr., While Pacman comes to fight and finish his opponents in thrilling fashion, Floyd jr. puts a boxing exhibition, just content in cruising his way to victory..
Let us wait and see if floyd(pretty boy) can handle the power of the pacman. I really like to see that fight happen in 2010. If PBF will tangle with the pacman in 2010, I will say PBF will be knock out within 1-4 rounds. that is for sure.
Jacko Money Gayweather Jr. only wants to fight li'l boys. Now i heard he wants to fight Laila Ali then Gina Carano. Thereafter, he wants to fight my mom, the Fabulous Moolah.
Floyd Mayweather jr.'s fight with Marquez lacks the thrills and excitement of a Pacman fight.. It is a boxing exhibition and not a prizefight! He cheated the fans by not honoring the catch-weight provision thus gaining more weight advantage over Marquez.. how could he regain the p4p title when he fought a much smaller guy who went up 2 divisions against him? while in the exact opposite, Pacquiao solidified his p4p king status by going up in weight to fight bigger & stronger men thrice (Diaz/Lightweight, ODLH/Welterweight and Hatton/Light-welter)! And Pacman won 17 rounds in all 3 fights winning them empathically by KO/TKO's! While Floyd jr. needed 12 boring rounds to put away a small opponent..
He could have finished Marquez after the knockdown in rd. 2 but in typical Floyd jr. fashion, he just couldn't take the risk and played it safe for the rest of the one-sided boring fight! Shame on you...
it's good to hear that a girl like Paula has way way more boxing intelligence than the cellar-IQ'd Ricardo Lois
hehehehe...everyone with intelligence...knows the truth...but some no brain writers just wants to make mayweather look good so not to be called a racists...cheers
Mayweather cheated.... the fight looked like a 26 year old man playing boxing with his 10 year old child. what a weight difference!!
For intelligent boxing fans: Mayweather did not prove anything because:
1. He was fighting an artificially bloated super featherweight. Did you even see Marquez's stomach? He was fat.
2. Mayweather came in 2 pounds over the limit. The bigger guy even cheating his way to a far bigger advantage.
3. Marquez at 36 years old, and significantly shorter than Mayweather is over the hill.
4. After beating up Marquez for 12 rounds, Marquez face was not messed up except for one tiny cut. Give Pacquiao an opponent to beat up for even just 3 rounds and you'll see cuts, bruises, bumps as big as watermellon. Look at David Diaz and Oscar DLH.
5. Marquez was overrated. He beat Juan Diaz and Casamayor to become #2 pound for pound. Are any of those guys future hall-of-famers?
6. Scribes are always talking about Marquez gave Pacman a hard time. That statement is a Fact. However, if you don't acknowledge the fact that Pacman has improved exponentially in the past 3 years, then you are a fool
I agree that Margarito's sin now is very inferior to compare, when mayweather cheated his weight. An hard earn 142 against a comfortably 146, and became 154 on fight night. We understand that Marquez is hungry of the payment and assured pay for him, but what is frustrating are those who were swindled by that fight. Floyd May has a long reach, taller height and the last thing which marquez could have some consolations, which the weight, was still stolen from him. Mayweather should know that fight was an embarrassment. It was an insult to those who buy ticket. And what is very insulting is the fact that weather continue to defend his malfeasance. Very bad, I never know that there are boxer who are swindlers too?
and now what he will be proud of that?we as a boxing fan were not looking for the shame performance of a boxer whose mentality is to chose his opponent which is to the eyes of viewers are oviously lack of competition if he like to show that he is great boxer chalenge those guy who wants him not picking those man as little as his little finger he should be burn by his conscience what a shame floyd its a shame only you do that in boxing before you sleep try to think what you done youre a joke pwe.
Fact is PBF is a genius; he improvised and perfected the game plan of how to "unfight" in boxing yet win his game. Art of boxing? Yes, maybe. But it makes boxing soo boring this style is a disservice to passionate boxing fans who are willing to spend hard earned money and go out of their way just to see great boxing fights. As a matter of fact I'm inclined to call the kind of game Floyd Jr. has as "cheat boxing". Roger Mayweather talked some sense when he observed that fighters who lost a fight or has losses in their records shouldn't be considered best boxer P4P; but that does not necessarily make him right. Started as a 106-pound professional boxer, Manny Pacquiao fought his way up to be recognized world champion of WBC Lightweight WBC Super Featherweight, IBF Super Bantamweight, WBC Flyweight and held the Ring Magazine titles for Featherweight, Super Featherweight, and Light Welterweight divisions. He suffered losses on the process but the feat certainly qualify as best boxer P4P.
you prove nothing, for fighting an old and smaller boxer you gain and add another victory on your record but i dont think you earn the respect of the boxing world, pacman will surely knock you out if you have the courage to face him, we knew you were so scared that you cut out kellermans interview rwgarding pacquiao, you are so coward that was proven after the bout
WWE has cross polinated this JMM/Pity Boy match. Meaningless mismatch are created to entertain kids. Great Boxers fight for greater challenges not for money alone. Mayweather truly belongs in the WWE, where the winner is pre-determined. If he wants to be great, he should fight great fighters his own size. He's taking advantage of the great smaller fighters. He shuns from real challenges. He fights in a protected shell.
the fight certainly is a massacre. Golden boy should had protected marquez. They knew after weigh in the dangers marquez is going into. They knew how weight can be a factor come fight night. Marquez prepared hard to gain 142 lbs. and floyd can come at 146 anytime. That's his fighting weight. The purpose of the catchweight is to make even the fight. Anybody please comment how this fight can be considered even???
Paula is far better writer than Ricardo lois! Keep it up Ma'am!
Beating JMM is not the ticket to P4P lordship for FMJr. It is just a tune up fight, and so he cannot reclaim the glory as yet. There is Mosley who could provide FMJr a better resume for P4P kingship, and he is calling FMJr out. C'mon Floyd, accept Mosley's challenge, and reserve the bragging until then..
All I can say is that better change his name to "CHEATERWEATHER"
straight as an arrow.... ouch!
HE PROVED NOTHING!! SHANE MOSELY, COTTO, PACQUIAO CAN ALL GET FIGHTS WITH SMALLER GUYS AND BEAT THEM, BUT WHAT DOES THAT PROVE? WHAT'S NEXT FOR MAYWEATHER, IVAN CALDERON? THE GUY IS A CHEATER AND A LOSER, AND I'M GLAD I DID NOT PAY FOR THIS FIGHT!
Now everybody thinks that Gayweather is # 1 after beating an overmatched Crybaby. Crybaby was too slow and has no power at 147 lbs. He can't even touch Gayweather. The weight difference is too much. I knew that this was a mismatch since it started. Pac is a different stoy. Pac will be able to connect and land bombs because he fights from an orthodox boxing stance and throws from different angles. No does not use same combination everytime. Before you make Gayweather # 1 he should fight the big boys Paul Williams, Cotto, Mosley, Margarito or even Pacquiao. My take, it is still a boring fight.
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