While there have been countless articles done on "woman in roleplaying" and "Christians in roleplaying", one thing I haven't seen much coverage of is gaming from a gay perspective. I sat down with Matt Hydeman, a Marshal with the Southern Arizona Gamers Association (SAGA) and asked him about being a gay gamer.
Berin Kinsman: As always, I'll start with obvious interview questions: When did you start roleplaying, how did you get started, and what was the first game you played?
Matt Hydeman: It was around 1981 or 1982. The very first roleplaying game I played was D&D 1st Edition, but mine wasn't the "Red Box", instead it was a purple box that contained the GM's Manual, the Player's Guide, one adventure that I want to say was simply titled "Dungeon of Doom" (though I may be completely off) and those plastic dice that one had to use the enclosed crayon on, grinding the wax into the numerals so one could read them. I still have those dice, even today...though I'm not quite sure where they are in my apartment.
BK: Those dice were hard to color sometimes. I broke a d20 once, gripping it too hard while I colored in the numbers.
MH: I just tried to "color" the sides of the dice; my sister, Laura, exasperated by me not getting any wax into the "engravings" on the dice, snatched them out of my hands, grabbed the crayon and rather savagely jammed the black wax into the engravings on all the dice and then dropped them on the table. I didn't even get the geek privilege to "set up" my very first set of dice!
BK: I never saw the "Purple box" set. What was in it?
MH: I think the "Purple Box" was a special collection of D&D stuff for those companies that had boys and girls shilling wrapping paper and greeting cards door to door. I did that for a while when I was 9 or 10 and it was completely miserable; I think the game was the only thing I had enough points to buy and then I gave up the whole "traveling saleskid" routine!
BK: I've never heard of anyone breaking in roleplaying quite that way before. That's actually pretty cool. did it succeed in getting you into D&D?
MH: I dabbled in D&D briefly at that point, but any games I played were poorly run and nobody really seemed to know what was supposed to happen, even if one read the books. It wasn't until 1986 that I stepped into the role of GM for the James Bond 007 game -- at that point, already three years old and on its last legs. There was a lot of off and on flirtations with roleplaying for me until I got to be a junior in high school.
BK: What happened when you were a junior in high school?
MH: I bought the "rebooted" edition of Chill that Mayfair Games had put out and immediately it "clicked" for me. I bought some of the other Chill sourcebooks, but with the exception of the starter adventure, I wrote all the adventures the Envoys [the PCs] went on. That was also the first time that I saw a gaming company setting up their vision of what the Chill "universe" would have ahead of it, down the road. Knowing that Mayfair was slated to release new material that would deal with the destruction of SAVE [the secret occult organization that the Envoys were affiliated with] and its aftermath, I started laying the groundwork in my adventures so that I could hint at the disaster about to befall SAVE. Sufficed to say my players were very intrigued by what was to come!
Sadly, I never got to see any of the post-SAVE Chill material; I think Mayfair decided Chill was a lost cause and canceled the whole RPG.
I'm not sure why; horror has a thousand different ways you can go, but if people weren't buying, I suppose I can understand Mayfair's decision.
One thing I -am- proud of during my tenure as a "Chillmaster" -- I made a United States Marine scream in terror after one particularly frightening encounter! Small pleasures....
After graduating high school, I stopped roleplaying for several years, but by graduate school, I did live-action roleplaying; that was my first encounter with White Wolf and Vampire: The Masquerade. I was the only player to retain the same character in the 2.5 years that we LARPed and I recently reprised the character at the Vampire LARP put on at the 2008 RinCon here in Tucson. I don't know if my character's survival meant I was clever, or just very lucky!
BK: There's been a lot written about women in roleplaying, but I don't think I've ever seen any coverage of gay gamers. Or have I missed something?
MH: I think the whole "gay gamer" concept is pretty niche. Not that it's unimportant, but it seems to me that in matters of roleplaying, the idea of gender seems to be more important to people than sexual orientation. It's "how many guys are playing 'X' game versus how many women?"
Have you missed something? Well, perhaps so, but I admit my lack of knowledge as to who in the industry is a "big name" who could or does comment on the whole "gay gamers" idea. I know there are LBGT folk who write for various companies (Wizards of the Coast, White Wolf, etc.), but I personally don't know one person who "carries the banner" talking about gay gamers.
BK: Why do you think there's so little coverage?
MH: Maybe that's just because in the whole scheme of things, it really doesn't matter -- gamers are gamers, no matter who you happen to be in bed with. Or as I said before, maybe it's just so niche that one just exhausts what you can put the "gay spin" on after a short time.
BK: Straight men playing female characters is looked on as kind of weird and creepy. Women in general play female characters, but when they do play men there doesn't seem to be a stigma. Straight people of either gender seem to always to play straight characters. Have you noticed any trends among gay gamers in terms of player character gender or orientation?
MH: Well, I think my perspective on this is going to be slightly skewed, only because I've actively chosen to play female characters for various RPG and interactive fiction games from time to time for over 15 years now. My choice in doing so has nothing to do with me being an openly gay male; it's more about me making a creative decision. For example, when I joined the MCU: Gotham game (using Primetime Adventures - BK) that Thomas Deeny (President of SAGA) was running, there was only one female character in the game to something like 3-4 male characters. It seemed wildly unbalanced, so I thought in bringing in another female character, it would even things out a little bit.
I know I got a couple of looks from the other gamers when I proposed my character concept for MCU. "What?? This guy's going to play a woman in this game?" But by the time we reached the game's "season finale," it wasn't even an issue. I was playing a bitchy, deceptive Internal Affairs detective who happened to be a female. But to specifically answer your question, I haven't noticed any trends among gay gamers regarding gender or orientation. I think most people play their own gender unless there's a compelling reason not to. And I don't think a character's orientation comes into play unless the game requires it to be so.
BK: One of the things female gamers have written about extensively is the level of sexism that can be present. I think that was more true in the early days of the hobby, but it obviously still exists. Has being gay ever been an issue within the gaming circles you've played with?
MH: I agree that there's still an air of sexism about the gaming world, which is unfortunate. It's enough that when someone asks what you like to do in your spare time and you tell them you're a gamer -- almost immediately they tend to think about the stereotypes that some mainstream media put out; you're a virgin, you're overweight, you're socially inept and oh, isn't it great that you can pretend to be someone else in another time and place because certainly you're never going to be that great in real life?
But if the person asking you is a gamer, it's totally different, because gamers understand other gamers. They may not know the game you're playing, but they understand what it really means to be a gamer.
I think I've been blessed in my gaming "career". I've always interacted with people who didn't care that I was gay, or if they did, it wasn't something they brought up at the table or to my face. I don't hide my sexual orientation, but I also don't make it the focus of everything I do. I'm just this guy who you might find out is gay or you might never know.
BK: I know that other communities (Christians, feminists, academia) have people with strong opinions on how roleplaying fits in, or doesn't fit in, with their values and culture. Are there any active opinions toward roleplaying in the gay community, pro or con?
MH: Well, from my personal experience, when you talk about "roleplaying" in the gay community, you're not talking about D&D or Primetime Adventures. 98% of the time you're talking about sexual roles -- coach/athlete, boss/employee and so on. So I have to make sure I'm clear about just what type of "roleplaying" I'm talking about when I'm chatting with another gay guy, lest he misunderstand me.
When I explain that I am a gamer and participate in roleplaying games, there has sometimes been a sense of "disapproval" from other gay men. Not all of them, of course; my ex and I actually game together in several RPGs, so he certainly understands. But you get gay men who just don't understand it, same as one might get from straight people. I think there are just people out there, regardless of orientation, who can't allow themselves to be anyone but themselves. They're so set in their ways as the person they are that when you suggest there's a game where you get to be someone else in another time and place...they just can't fathom that!
I suppose I've been blessed not to have academics clucking their disapproval at me, but I have had folks with strong religious convictions tell me that I'm wrong to be roleplaying; that it's "sinful" and not what God wants me to do in my life. Seriously? God's worried that I decided to play a rogue in a fantasy game for a year? What about global warming? What about starving children? Wow.
BK: Thanks for taking the time to talk with me.
MH: You're very welcome. Talking to you, I realize that I have made an impact, in my own way to gaming.











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I know more gay gamers than girl gamers. Then again, five out of the six girl gamers I know for sure are gay (self included) and I don't know about the sixth. Throw in the couple gay guy gamers I know, and it's a clear majority.
Plenty of the people I know play gay characters, but then, since half the people I game with are gay, it's just something that comes up.
I think no one talks about it because it's not important. Gamers tend to be geeks, geeks tend to be open-minded, so there's hardly any homophobia. And the gay community has other things to worry about than gaming.
As a gay gamer, I can back up most of the things Matt said.
And you're right too Swordgleam: it doesn't come up because it doesn't matter.
But to throw in my own experience: I typically play heterosexual characters, because it's easier. First of all, it's easier to be heterosexual in a fantasy setting. Secondly, it's easier to go roleplay it because no one at the table could have any disapproval.
However, I also see much sexism in our hobby. For example, my boyfriend and I were at Barnes & Noble the other day when we came across a "Fantasy Art" book. We actually bet on the female-to-male ratio. It was 1.38:1, and the females had MUCH more skin showing than men (there was one full-frontal nudity, three more bare chests, with only one full-frontal nude male).
All of my gamer friends are completely cool with my sexual orientation, and one of the players in the game I run tells me often that I'm "the straightest gay guy" he's ever met.
As for stigma among gays for roleplaying, I've not seen any in my experience. Though you must clarify "gaming", as Matt's claim I've seen to be true as well. (Sometimes "tabletop roleplaying" doesn't help at all, and only lets someone put a picture in their head).
Thank you very much for covering this! This is actually a tiny niche, and my other gay gamer friend and I wanted to start up a blog together.
BK:"Straight men playing female characters is looked on as kind of weird and creepy."
By who? Do some people still think that if they can't play a role comfortably, then no one else should be able to either? This is pretty sad if it's been true in your experience.
@Karizma: I think I've seen that same fantasy art book at B&N. :) If you and your friend are still wanting to do a blog about gay gamers, I'd be interested in talking with the two of you. BK interviewing me sort of started my mind thinking about things!
Berin, thank you so much for the interview! It was a true pleasure. :)
@Matt: The first roadblock is that neither one of us know squat about blogging, such as the software. We tried Blogger (Google I think), but the interface was too finicky and we kept having problems. If we can find a good software/host for noobs, we'd totally start.
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