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Your Sunday Atheism Links

First up: Jesus and Mo. This cartoon, and I say this rarely, has been confirmed by a recent study. Turns out that your personal beliefs about the reality of the world and your God's tend to coincide. It's not luck.

Two: From Pharyrngula and I can testify that this is a problem with some of the Christians I've known and met.

Category: Religion
Posted on: December 5, 2009 10:12 AM, by
PZ Myers

Can you bear yet another case of religion-rationalized child abuse?

Over three months in 2006, as her five children grew more emaciated and listless by the day, Estelle Walker made no move to find a job, no effort to scrounge up a meal, her kids told a jury yesterday.

"We were supposed to wait for God to provide," said Walker's oldest daughter, now 21. "And that's what we did."

At one point, the daughter said, she and her siblings went 11 days without food. When police were at last summoned to the Sussex County cabin by neighbors, investigators found the children so malnourished they had difficulty talking.

You would think that after watching her own children waste away for months, she'd realize that god will not provide. Never has and never will.

Three: One reason why the mean ol'  New Atheists are popular is that they're very good debaters. They're very good with this whole reason in argument thing. Take a look at this debate between Christopher Hitchens and Stephen Fry and representatives of the Catholic Church. What's remarkable is that they were polling this very literate audience and the more the Catholic reps spoke the more people they lost. I must confess that I find 99 percent of the debates between religious people and the new athiests to go this way. Watch the entirety of the debate here.

And we end with Jesus and Mo.

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Comments

  • Joe 2 years ago
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    This comic has a large problem — devout Muslims don't drink alcohol.

  • Steve 2 years ago
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    @Joe: Perhaps Mo isn't a very devout muslim...

    ;)

  • empraptor 2 years ago
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    Plenty of Muslims drink alcohol. They just do it discretely at bars that are not licensed to serve alcohol.

  • Scott Heritage 2 years ago
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    Nice to see Stephen Fry involved with this debate, he has always been an excellent public speaker. (for anyone who doesn't know him, watch some QI or Blackadder)

  • Jibber 2 years ago
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    "What's remarkable is that they were polling this very literate audience and the more the Catholic reps spoke the more people they lost." while we're on the subject of projection...

  • Jorge 2 years ago
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    Nice comics... but what's the story. How come THIS SITE has scientology ads?

    It almost makes it seem as if you're just attacking the usual religions just to advertise scientologism.

    Maybe you should include Tom Cruise or Xenu in some comics to clean up your act

  • Johnn Knox 2 years ago
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    OK, now that looks like a lot of fun dude!

    RT
    www.be-anonymous.bg.tc

  • david 2 years ago
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    that hurt dude. If there is a God then He made the flowers, fruit, vegetables, fresh water , air etc. If He is good then He
    will punish men who do commit evil to other men. So people blame God evil but really its men committinge rape, murder and other sins. If God is good then which book really fits what we see in creation? Christians have salvation army, world vision, compassion internation and it seems to me they are doing something good to counter the evil. So which religion is acting like the God that is? Many define their own 'god' for they were told GOd is about hate and judgement until their daughter gets raped or murdered...all of a sudden they these same people want judgement because we instinctively know (some how) that crime has to be paid for. So now you have the basics. By they way...nothing creates nothing. big bang has a huge problem for it starts with created time, space , dust colliding. were did
    space come from? Time? Space dust? nothing creates nothing.

  • Jesse- Cochise County Libertarian Examiner 2 years ago
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    Great article, regardless of devotion in my experience no "religious" person usually keeps all their commandments, hence the reasons Protestant pastors have homosexual sex with dirty hookers while snorting crystal meth and preaching against the evils of homosexuality, also the reason many of Saudi Arabia's wealthy (Wahhabi) family members keep private stocks of drugs, alcohol, and hookers aboard their yachts and also the reason Roman Catholic priests tend to enjoy the comforts afforded by children...

    Oh yeah THIS WAS A GREAT ARTICLE!

  • Jones 2 years ago
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    Great debate result - shows what happens when people examine belief

  • Dr. I. Needtob Athe - founder of Atheism 2 years ago
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    Please keep in mind that although there are plenty of good arguments in favor of atheism, examples of religion-rationalized crimes are not among them. If such cases argue for anything, it's not the non-existence of God.

    To better see my point, think of the fundamentalists/creationists/intelligent design advocates who claim evolution was used by the Nazis to promote their policies. Does that say anything about the validity of evolution?

  • brad 2 years ago
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    this comic has more problems than that, christians believe in the bible because it is inerrant, your mis-interpretation of the bible and what it says does not make it fairy tales, if i read a book on quantum mechanics i might think its a "fairy tale" and a bunch of nonsense because i dont understand it, the bible is backed by historical facts, historians can date when transcripts were written and the bible made many predictions like the birth of jesus christ the savior years before it happened, how could these men do that without being led by God to write as such, if we cant believe what the bible says because "knowbody was around to see it happen" then everything in our history and textbooks cant be believed, we believe columbus did what the texbooks say, we believe alexander the great did what the textbooks say without question, only because the bible tells us that there are things we shouldnt do for our own good that people try to tear it down instead of adjusting their lives

  • Kent McManigal- tinyurl.com/abqliberty 2 years ago
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    I have always wondered how otherwise rational atheists could still believe in the false god of government, and how otherwise rational anarchists could believe in the superstition of religion.

    I'm guessing "david" hasn't actually read the Bible, or he might see how big a fan of genocide and slavery his God is. He also isn't very informed about cosmology or quantum physics which at least have some possible explanations for the beginning of spacetime that don't involve a supernatural realm. Just because something isn't totally understood, yet, is no reason to invoke the God of the gaps.

  • Kent McManigal- tinyurl.com/abqliberty 2 years ago
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    And "brad", the Bible says bats are birds. How is that "inerrant"?

    Yet, that isn't the biggest hole in the story. Your "predictions" don't quite hold up to scrutiny. Jesus was named "Jesus" (or even "Joshua" depending on who you ask); not "Emanuel". And there are innumerable others. You can try to explain them away, but wouldn't a perfect God have been able to keep his book free from these problems?

    Also starting at the beginning, according to the Bible, God told Adam and Eve they could eat from any tree in the Garden of Eden except the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Then they disobeyed him and he punished them with all the bad things that now exist. The problem is, before they ate the fruit of that tree how could they have possibly known it was "wrong" to disobey God? They couldn't. It is illogical, just like you would expect a poorly written story, without someone checking continuity, to be.

    For those who still cling to "God" I suggest: godisimaginary.com

  • Susan 2 years ago
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    I hate feminism because it's sexist bullshit, but that first one (only) was funny. It's a bit obsolete crying about middle eastern religions, Mr Cartoonist, when Christianity has an iron grip over morality in western countries.

  • Qingwei 2 years ago
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    david, "something from nothing" is a scientific possibility. See: Casimir effect.

  • Alman 2 years ago
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    what do you know about religion if you all are un-religion?
    you will know the answer when the day has come and you couldn't runaway from GOD's judgement day. just wait :)

  • Fonz 2 years ago
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    "Alman says:
    what do you know about religion if you all are un-religion?
    you will know the answer when the day has come and you couldn't runaway from GOD's judgement day. just wait :)"

    I think we are un-religion because we've looked into it/them much more in depth than any religious person has, and hence are less susceptible to any one religion's or church's deceptive wrath. Truth is ignorance is bliss, and I consider myself to be quite bitter.

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