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More on DC Catholic Charities and Gay Marriage

The other shoe has dropped in D.C. Catholic Charities ongoing battle with the D.C. Council over gay marriage. Charities has dropped new spouses from health care coverage in order to avoid covering gay spouses, effective last Monday.

I fail to see the difference between offering benefits to gay spouses and heterosexual spouses in civil marriages (which the Church does not regard as morally licit either - at least not for Catholics) or to divorced and remarried Catholics. Under what I was taught in both Catholic High School and marriage preparation, because married couples actually marry themselves sacramentally (including gay ones), the question is more about saving face for a Bishop without a red hat yet than it is about morality.

The Church is whistling in the graveyard, since its biggest problem is not DC law, but the continued generosity of its donors (many of whom will not be happy about this action - including my family who have given to DC Charities in the past, but won't validate this act by continuing to in the future) and the fact that Catholic (donor) families will soon be asking the gay unions of their children/parents/siblings.

Telling people their relationships are disordered begs the question of how we know the natural order on same sex marriage. It takes true intellectual gymnastics to continue to hold the traditional view. In the Church's premier text on Ethics, Fagothey's Right and Reason (which is used in Catholic minor seminary), the author had to rely on theism to prove that homosexuality was not within the confines of natural law - he could not do it on the merits alone. In other words, its a teaching that should only apply to Catholics (if them) since you can't prove it without reference to the Church's teachings. As such, it should not be imposed on Charities employees that are not Catholic (even if they are gay). Indeed, since the teaching is that logically challenged, it should not be applied to anyone and should not even be a teaching.

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  • Bill 1 year ago
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    But, what about their right to hate? What happens to that? Nothing, right? Because that is what is truly important here.

    That religious people maintain their rights to treat others badly?

    Sad. And pathetic. But these are the same people that would re-crucify Jesus Christ if he were to return to earth.

    Yet the Catholic Church goes about its usual business of stealing money from the poor and undereducated via a weekly 'stupid tax' droped into a collection plate so that the Pope can continue to build his city of solid gold in Rome...

    Yeah. God LOVES that.

  • Just me 1 year ago
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    Y wont no one use common sense..people are doing things a donkey wouldnt do and thats have sex with the same sex..it aint about religion for me ..its about using ya brain..the only reason a gay man is a gay man is becuz he likes it up the u know what ..point blank ..how do u get special righst for that..Thats why most gay men sound like females becuz their body is going thru the shock of what thee heck is the guy doing with me ..No Natives , No ancient civilization (except white) delt in homosexuality ..DO Some Thinking

  • shadow_man 1 year ago
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    Homosexuality is not a choice. Just like you don't choose the color of your skin,

    you cannot choose whom you are sexually attracted to. If you can, sorry, but you

    are not heterosexual, you are bi-sexual. Virtually all major psychological and

    medical experts agree that sexual orientation is NOT a choice. Most gay people

    will tell you its not a choice. Common sense will tell you its not a choice. While

    science is relatively new to studying homosexuality, studies tend to indicate that

    its biological.

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    -opposite-sex.html
    Gay, Straight Men's Brain Responses Differ
    ***.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,155990,00.html
    ***.livescience.com/health/060224_gay_genes.html
    ***.springerlink.com/content/w27453600k586276/

  • shadow_man 1 year ago
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    Homosexuality is not a sin according to the Bible. Any educated Christian would know that. Scholars who have studied the Bible in context of the times and in relation to other passages have shown those passages (Leviticus, Corinthians, Romans, etc) have nothing to do with homosexuality. These passages often cherry-picked while ignoring the rest of the Bible. The sins theses passages are referring to are idolatry, prostitution, and rape, not homosexuality.

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    ***.jesus21.com/content/sex/bible_homosexuality_print.html
    ***.christchapel.com/reclaiming.html
    ***.stjohnsmcc.org/new/BibleAbuse/BiblicalReferences.php
    ***.gaychristian101.com/

  • shadow_man 1 year ago
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    The National Library of Medicine pubs confirm that sexual orientation is natural, biologically induced in the first trimester of pregnancy, morally neutral, immutable, neither contagious nor learned, bearing no relation to an individuals ability to form deep and lasting relationships, to parent children, to work or to contribute to society.

    From the American Psychological Association: homosexuality is normal; homosexual relationships are normal.

    The American Academy of Pediatrics, American Psychological Asociation and American Psychiatric Asociation have endorsed civil marriage for same-sex couples because marriage strengthens mental and physical health and longevity of couples, and provides greater legal and financial security for children, parents and seniors.

    America's premier child/mental health associations endorse marriage equality.

  • stdslove 1 year ago
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    Gay marriage

    My concern is that more and more gay men get STD. It seems that gay men is easier to get an STD.
    According to the report from the largest STD dating site == Positivefish.com ==(if I spell the site correctly), the gay subscribers
    increased continually. Most of them are sexy.

  • unreligious 1 year ago
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    Just me, aside from the fact that your comment is full of misspellings, a total lack of sentence structure and misuse of grammar, it is inaccurate. For your information Gay people have been documented in every society, in every culture and every race, from the dawn of man to the present day. It might interest you that not all Gay men engage in anal sex and almost no Gay women do. Since I suspect that you know very few Gay men let alone most, your comment about their voices is inane. You are the one who needs to do some thinking. You could start with why you have a need to degrade a group of people for who the are. Do you think this makes you a better person? Or perhaps you could think about all the studies that show same sex, sex occurring amongst most animal species.

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