UPDATE: HASAN LINKED TO 9/11 TERRORISTS
Nidal Malik Hasan: just a good American who snapped, or part of a pattern of Islamic terrorism?
Ex-Muslims indicate Hasan viewed the war on terror as a war on Islam. Source
Do not jump to conclusions about the shootings at Fort Hood, says our President, as Muslim spokesmen in the U.S. condemn the killings. (* More on the President’s astounding response below.)
Yesterday, U.S. Army Major Nidal Malik Hasan, screaming "Allahu Akbar," killed 12 soldiers and one civilian on the post, seriously wounding 31 others. Hasan is American born. Hasan's cousin says he is a lifelong Muslim. Hasan reportedly planned the attack, clearing out his apartment, giving items away, and leaving at least one message for a friend saying goodbye. In weeks gone by he had researched suicide on his computer.
A convenience store video of Hasan early yesterday morning shows him dressed in full Muslim attire. Later, at Fort Hood, he appeared in his military uniform and reportedly perpetrated the shootings with his private handguns.
Family and associates say Hasan was under a great deal of stress due to alleged harassment by fellow Army personnel. Hasan, a psychiatrist, was also 'terrified' about his upcoming deployment to Iraq. Speculation is he snapped under the accumulated stress.
Without jumping to conclusions, engaging in racial discrimination, or otherwise stereotyping anyone, perhaps the record can speak for itself.
Since 1972, on American soil, at the hands of Islamic radicals, 3,308 Americans have been killed in 65 separate attacks.
Source
How many Islamic terror attacks since 9/11 worldwide? More than 14,000 -Source
Number of people killed at by Islamic terrorists in the last 8 years worldwide?
Reuters reported April 2007 terrorism deaths worldwide had increased 40% from 2005, noting a high of 20,000 deaths in 2006, with about 14,000 killed in 2005.
The Rand Corporation, in a 2008 report, says the average was about 6,000 terrorism deaths globally per year from 2002-2007.
The record keepers at www.thereligionofpeace.com indicate Islamic terrorism in October 2009 alone accounted for about 900 deaths, with 2000 people critically injured in 15 countries via 156 separate attacks.
It is clear terrorism attacks are on the rise.
If we take a low estimate of 500 deaths monthly, globally, for the 96 months since 9/11, it is likely conservative to assert 48,000 people have been murdered by Islamic terrorists during that time. If the figure of 900 per month killed is closer to the truth, the number becomes 86,400.
If we split the difference, the number becomes about 67,000.
For the sake of perspective: the number of people executed during the 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition: estimated-2,000.
Number of Americans killed in the Vietnam War: 58,000.
Number of Blacks lynched between 1882 and 1964: 3,445
Number of Whites lynched between 1882 and 1964: 1,297
Source
Some blame the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq for escalations of terrorism and no doubt the 20,000 killed in 2006 reflects increases in violence due to those wars. This is part of the problem involving statistics and asymmetric war: was the death a war death or a result of terrorism?
As far as Ft. Hood is concerned we are left asking was that an act of war, an act of terrorism, an act of treason or an act of insanity? Perhaps a bit of all four.
Some of the most recent incidents reported in the U.S.
FOX 10.29.09
Detroit: One of three people sought by the FBI was captured in Canada Thursday and two were still on the loose after a federal raid and deadly shooting of a radical Islam leader whose goal authorities say was to take down the U.S. government.
CHICAGO 10.26.09
FBI officials earlier this month arrested a Chicago man allegedly involved in an international terrorist plot with Western European targets, the Tribune has learned.
NEW YORK 9.20.09
The FBI arrested three men overnight on charges they lied to federal agents during an investigation of a terror plot against New York City that authorities say was "the real deal."
WASHINGTON, 9.25.2009
An indictment handed down yesterday in a North Carolina federal court charges three men with plotting to attack Marine Corps Base Quantico, Va., with the intent to murder U.S. military personnel.
ASSOCIATED PRESS 6.1.09
Arkansas: A Muslim convert "with political and religious motives" shot two uniformed soldiers outside an Arkansas military recruiting center Monday, killing one and wounding the other, authorities said.
NEW YORK 5.20.09
The FBI and NYPD busted a four-man homegrown terror cell Wednesday night that was plotting to blow up two Bronx synagogues while simultaneously shooting a plane out of the sky, sources told the Daily News.
FOX 11.26.08
Federal authorities are warning of a possible Al Qaeda-orchestrated terror plot against New York City subway and other transit systems during the holidays.
We could have added to this list the incident in Denver, the incidents in LA, the conspiracy to destroy the Sears Tower in Chicago, the case of the Beltway Sniper.
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But let's not jump to any conclusions, says Mr. Obama. It would appear accurate to say Americans have been more than tolerant, believing most Muslims want nothing to do with terrorism. However, it also appears accurate to face certain realities: attacks are on the rise, more Muslims appear to be involved, clerics preach hate and killing routinely, and the tradition is one of aggression and world domination.
All this leads to a question.
Is it wise to think we have nothing to fear from Muslims in the U.S. military, or from Muslims occupying sensitive positions within law enforcement, the intelligence community, or the federal government?
We do know we can count on Mr. Obama to avoid hasty conclusions, as if the jury is still out concerning the linkage between the teaching and the behavior.
Additional information:
Ralph Peters on O'Reilly tonight makes an excellent point: since Hasan's anti-American views were well known, and his stability highly questioned by Army personnel, that fact he was still on duty, and able to perpetrate this attack, indicates the Army is suffering from a full outbreak of political correctness.
*President’s astounding response to Ft. Hood tragedy:
Frank Gafney here.
Commentary Magazine here.
People killed by radical Muslims on 9/11: 2,996
Muslim-Americans killed in the U.S. "in revenge": 1
Most persecuted people group in history? 70 Million killed in the last 2,000 years.
What the West needs to know documentary
Military jihadists fill 'every branch'
Comments
instances of high school shootings are on the rise. is it wise to trust high school students in our country? this argument stinks of racism
Given the moral depravity promoted in our high schools, one might be wise to keep an eye on many of the jeans-to-the-knees crowd.
Otherwise Jo! You got me! Devastating rejoinder! You are right. A handful of tragic HS shootings in a short time resulting in a handful or grievous deaths compares completely to centuries of Muslim aggression resulting in the deaths of 9 million Christians, or 67,000 killings in the last 8 years.
If you choose to ignore facts and 1300 years of history, I leave you to your darkness, with this one parting remark: the lazy person refuses the hardwork of honest inquiry, resorting to cheap accusations of racism.
I count Blacks, Hispanics and Arabs as friends, but reject the company of the hateful, the murderous, and the stupid.
I don't think Erickson is a racist; Erickson is a typical Christo-fascist. As such, he has failed to realize that he and his Christian fellows have more in common with Islamic Jihadists than they do the founding fathers.
Erickson's naive and shallow intellect, combined with his religious superstition, is exhibit A, symbol of the greatest danger that faces the human species. It is the exact same flaw that allows the Islamic terrorist to kill.
Erickson and those like him would be the murderous terrorists if they were born is a Muslim country. Erickson identifies Islam as the problem, unable to admit that Christianity is no different.
The problem is not Islam, the problem is religious fundamentalism, the ignorance of religious superstition.
billy bob:
You are right. Ignorance is a huge problem. Sin is even bigger.
You are very late to the party son. We've all heard the Christian Taliban lie from hell before. Never washes.
Mindless ramblings may satisfy your irrational rage but they do nothing to save you a place at the table of the civilized.
Shout in the mirror as much as you like. Boorish.
Here is one leftist who finally saw the light late in life.
Jürgen Habermas, a veteran leftist German philosopher stunned his admirers not long ago by proclaiming, “Christianity, and nothing else, is the ultimate foundation of liberty, conscience, human rights, and democracy, the benchmarks of Western civilization. To this day, we have no other options [than Christianity]. We continue to nourish ourselves from this source. Everything else is postmodern chatter.”
May you also pull your head out of your own tail long enough to see the infinite difference between the God of Love who brings true freedom, and
. . . and every counterfeit ever created, including the one who has control of your mind. I pray your eyes will be opened to realize the King of Kings is love personified, the very one who fashioned you in your mother's womb, and the very One who will judge you in the end.
There is only one way through the tunnel of fire and only one way to survive: cloaked in His righteousness.
For our righteousness is as filthy rages, and burns very easily.
billy bob:
" . . . Christianity is no different" than Islam. You have the knowledge base of a mollusk, and the processing power of a paramecium, if you truly believe such a ludicrous statement.
Only for truth seekers:
faithfreedom dot org
Ah, the old 'I'm not racist, my best friend is black/arab/hispanic but...[insert racist comment]
I didn't realise i was debating with a fundamentalist. Might i turn the argument around to 5538000 people killed at the hands of fundamentalist Christians throughout history. Hell, with that kind of track record we might as well lock all the Christians up now!
And back to prejudice, the more you assume the 'jeans at knees crowd' to be delinquents, without knowing a thing about them, the more inclined they will be to prove you right. prejudice is an awful thing.
Ah, the old 'I'm not racist, my best friend is black/arab/hispanic but...[insert racist comment]
I didn't realise i was debating with a fundamentalist. Might i turn the argument around to 5538000 people killed at the hands of fundamentalist Christians throughout history. Hell, with that kind of track record we might as well lock all the Christians up now!
And back to prejudice, the more you assume the 'jeans at knees crowd' to be delinquents, without knowing a thing about them, the more inclined they will be to prove you right. prejudice is an awful thing.
You call what you are doing engaging debate? You know Jo, if you had a reasonable point of view or an opinion back up with some cited source material you might carry at least a smidgeon of credibility. As it is you sound like a hollow gong. Christians killed 5 million? It's a lie. Prove it.
Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. believed in the fundamental doctrines of Christianity. Does that make him a fundamentalist? And if you hate fundamentalists, I guess you would have to hate him too. And if you hate someone because he or she is a Christian, is that any different from hating someone because of the color of their skin? And therefore, are you a bigot?
Ah! But you will say your editorial Allan proves you hate Muslims, and so you are a religious bigot and a racist!
However, I stated nothing in that column indicated I hated Muslims. I merely pointed out the facts drawing only a few potential conclusions: most Muslims do not embrace violence, even though the teaching and the history of the tradition indicates it is a centerpiece, the shooter was probably nuts and a terrorist, terrorism is a huge problem and it is getting worse, the President is a political operative, unwilling to make tough choices, and the Army is too PC.
Where is the bigotry, the racism?
Jo and billy bob:
The real trouble you have is your narrative is coming apart and your messiah is being shown unqualified for the post, and consequently, since you don't have the integrity or courage to admit error and change your mind and your ways, you lash out at those of us who are simply describing problems and suggesting solutions. We are not the enemy. Christianity is not the enemy. Conservativism is not the enemy. Anti-Americanism, sin and sloppy thinking are the enemies. All we want to do is preserve the republic and liberty, a republic established and preserved by about 2.4 million people who gave their lives in her defense. Honoring their memory and providing for our posterity is the thing. This republic has provided the most freedom, prosperity, and tolerance for all people from whatever background and race, anywhere, at any time. Seems to me the wise would want to protect such a great country, but instead there are legions trying to destroy it.
David Horowitz, once a communist, is a bit more pointed that I:
Google: Our Brain Dead Country – by David Horowitz, FrontPage Magazine
"We have a vast internal threat in this country in the form of this unholy alliance between the anti-American Left and radical Islam – whose Muslim Brotherhood network extends through our universities, our government and our military. It is 'politically incorrect' to recognize this fact. You can be barred — as I have been — from speaking at universities for even talking about it. The embargo of discussion of the Islamo-fascist threat puts every American (including the infidel collaborators) at risk. Hasan had semi-automatic weapons. But they weren’t nuclear. That possibility is just around the corner unless we undergo a sea change in our attitudes and marshal the intelligence and the courage to recognize the threat."
Calling people racists and Islamaphobes only plays into the enemy's hands. Are you listening Jo? billy bob? ZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Move along folks, nothing to see here, Allan is just another racist tea bagger.
Billy bob is right, thgere is no difference between Christian fundamentalism and Islamic fundamentalism; no matter how much poor little Al begs to differ.
Religious fundamentalism is religious fundamentalism. Does not matter what the brand, it is always the refuge of the weak and cowardly.
Mr. Left:
Do you equate Zoroastrianism with Buddism? How about Hinduism and Sufism? Same thing? Do you see no difference between Mormonism and Lutheranism? How about The Bahá'í Faith and Shi'a Islam? All equitable, comparable? How do you define fundamentalism? Are you a fundamental atheist? Agnostic? Why are those positions intellectually or morally superior to religious conviction? Do you believe in the Constitutional guarantee of freedom of religion? If you discriminate in any way against people of faith, does that make you a bigot? Do beliefs have consequences? Do beliefs ordinarly play out in behavior? Who is credited with emancipating women? Do you know who was at the forefront of abolition, prohibiting child labor, and who has always been first and foremost when it comes to feeding the poor, providing free medical care, clothing the poor, providing clean water for the poor, and helping build housing for the poor? Do you know anything besides sarcasm? Moron.
Notice these 'progressives' never provide any source material to back up their arguments, never propose any solutions to problems, never even identify problems, or otherwise contribute anything positive. All they ever do is whine and complain and cry and criticize, snipe from the shadows, and then call other people weak and cowardly. Hypocrites.
One other thought (not that actual though ever impacts people like Mr. Left, billy bob or Jo): Since the vast majority of people in the world hold to some kind of religious belief, and since you thoroughly reject religion as delusional, pitting yourselves against the vast majority, what do you hope to gain by denigrating people of faith, and is such denigration necessarily an expression of bigotry? Also, do you assert that the spiritual life and the intellectual life are mutually exclusive? How then do you explain the explosion of scientific discovery fueled by Western civilization, itself founded and developed by Judeo-Christian traditions and beliefs? Silence? Thought so.
PS: You might note the scientific revolution coincided with spiritual renewal in the 19th and 20th centuries as both focused on the unseen world.
Ok opting out now, i can't see any point continuing to comment here except to qualify myself. i am a christian, not a fundamentalist, but a christian, and as such i do not 'hate someone because he or she is christian' my source was wikipedia, not the most academic i know, but i am not publishing an article on it, i was merely researching an essay on the meaning of terrorism, came across this article and was infuriated by it. i could find sources should i wish to, i could find sourses to say anything, as you have proven.
I am an Indian and I am a Hindu.
It is high time the world woke upto the threat of Islam, we have all along been lying to ourselves that it is religion of peace. But ask the suicide bombers and people who do the atrocities - and you will find that their belief in their religion is utmost and they get inspired from the Quran. Infact they are pious and true believers of the religion.
Islam has all the safety nets to project itself and encouraging its people to lie for the sake of enhancing Islam. It is called Taqqiya which encourages them to lie and be dicetful towards other religions. So, in effect the muslims who are trying to convince are actually doing their religious duty of taqqiya.
Many people still prefer to be blind to the obvious treachery that Islam has brought upon us. But it is just wishful thinking that this religion and its followers will one day calm down ... NO we are fooling ourselves into believing them and playing into their hands.
God help my country
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