Jasmine on cover of Sports Illustrated
Jasmine, the Sports Illustrated poster girl for rehabilitated pit bulls, has been hit and killed by a car, according to the animal rescue group Recycled Love.
“Our hearts are heavy with sadness over the loss of our sweet Jasmine,” a blog for Recycled Love reported. “She was recently killed by an automobile in an unfortunate accident. Jasmine touched so many lives in so many ways. Her family is devastated by her passing, but they would like everyone to recognize and celebrate the unmistakable love Jasmine received and the priceless gifts she has given to everyone.”
Further details of the accident were not disclosed. Jasmine was owned by Catalina Stirling, president of Recycled Love, according to the blog.
"Please understand that Catalina, along with the rest of Jasmine's family, are just beginning to process this loss," the blog states. "Thank you for allowing time for all to heal."
Recyled Love could not be immediately reached for comment.
One of 51 pit bulls seized from the Michael Vick dog fighting ring bust in April 2007, Sweet Jasmine was featured on the cover of Sports Illustrated. The accompanying article detailed the lives of the pit bulls that were placed in foster care and adoptive homes.
The Best Friends Animal Sanctuary in southern Utah took in 22 of the dogs. Best Friends described them as “suffering from serious psychological and emotional trauma, similar to what you see in children from situations of abuse and neglect.”
Sweet Jasmine was described by Sports Illustrated as gentle but skittish around people and obviously traumatized.
Vick, 29, is preparing for his debut with the Philadelphia Eagles, marking his first NFL game since 2006. The Eagles signed Vick earlier this month. He completed a 20-month prison sentence on a federal dog fighting conviction.
The Humane Society of the United States has been working with Vick, who is now speaking out against dog fighting. Vick also appears in a new video on the Humane Society’s YouTube page.
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Why was this dog running loose? So much for setting an example for being a responsible pit bull owner. I can only hope that the rest of the Vick dogs are being responsibly managed and cared for.
If you read the book " The Lost Dogs" you will come to find that this dog was well taken care of with nothing but love. What had happened was nothing but an accident.
THE POOR THING,WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE WHY,THEY MADE A MISTAKE AND NOW THE BABY IS GONE,AT LEAST SHE HAD SOME GOOD TIMES AND LOVE BEFORE SHE LEFT THIS WORLD,YOU KNOW ALL ANIMALS GO TO HEAVEN.
This is obviously a very sad accident, but it is also useful to remember it the next time some pit bull person says that pit bull dog aggression and dangerousness to other dogs is no big deal because all dogs should always be kept on leash and controlled. I am sure Jasmine's owner (the president of a group that presumably advocates the utmost in responsible dog ownership) tried very hard to do just that.
She failed.
Now she must be thrown under the bus as an "Irresponsible Owner' by the Pit bull community.
When are we going to get an update on 9 lucky Vick Beagles who were spared being used for baiting...Seems that the Beagle community just took them in without much fanfare...True dog lovers.
Accidents do happen. Dogs will some times get past the owner like at the front door or at a gate. I doubt if she was running loose. My dogs ( all pit bulls) fortunately do not try to get past me but I am always careful... all it takes is me opening the door and them seeing a rabbit and I could not be positive that they would not try to go after the rabbit. I am glad Jasimine know love.. and for the Beagles this should have been brought out just to show how vicious of person Michael Vicks actually is.
so many ASSumptions. Noone knows what happened there for sure. So, usual suspects, wipe the venom from your lips. There are a time and a place to point fingers, this is just not one of them.
Sorry, folks, but if Jasmine's owners want her to symbolize how easy it is to responsibly own rescued dog fighting pit bulls (as they clearly do), then they have to understand that they are going to be under a microscope when things go terribly wrong.
Pit bull people almost universally claim that inherent pit bull dog aggression is no big deal because responsible owners ALWAYS have control of their lesahed dogs. Obviously Jasmine wasn't under control when she was killed. I am not doubt that this owner was as responsible as a dog owner can be, but it is a good lesson that accidents do happen and a dog who wants to kill other dogs if it gets loose (like many dog aggressive pit bulls) is an accident waiting to happen.
I don't think we need to assume anything; a dog doesn't get hit by a car sitting in its fenced back yard, or being walked down the street on a leash by its owner. If the dog was killed under some fantastical circumstances..like a drunk driver drove up on the sidewalk and hit the leashed dog, narrowly missing the owner....we would have heard about it.
Most likely, the dog got off leash, and ran into the street. Accidents happen. But when you are seeking publicity, and want to use Vicks pit bulls to further your cause, you have to take the public scutiny that comes with that. The general public was under the immpression that these dogs were being expertly managed, not given out to an artist/rescue volunteer who evidently lost control of the dog. If this woman is considered one of the few people qualified to handle ex-fighting dogs in the country by a federal judge...with no formal background as a dog trainer, nor education as an animal behaviorist..that should concern the public.
You people should be ASHAMED for guessing about what happened and picking on the owner in her time of loss. You nasty mouthed commenter's just automatically assume the dog was doing something "vicious" when the ACCIDENT happened. She was rehabilitated and was a safe dog with all the rights of any other dog. If she was any other breed and was hit by a car you would feel bad and never would have brought her owners responsibility in dog ownership into it. STOP jumping to conclusions because none of you know what the circumstances were. As for the beagles who aren't getting the "fanfare", well beagles don't need the positive press that "Pit bull" type breeds need because they aren't taken by sick people and TRAINED to fight. Plus they don't have a bunch of hate mongers who know NOTHING about the breeds who regurgitate myth and lies passed of as fact by the BIASED media and second hand stories that happened to someones neighbors, sisters neighbor. Oh, and Dogcentric, get a life!
Oh, as for your comment "Dogma", Does experience count for nothing to you. The owner of the dog in question has been involved in rescuing and rehabilitating dogs for many, many years. So YES she is qualified to own this dog. Stop spouting hate and do some impartial research about These breeds and how about actually going out and meeting with some of these dogs and their owners. Not just the Vick dogs, but Amstaffs, Staffy bulls, and American Pit bull terriers in general. This goes for all of you Pit bull haters who seem to think you are experts. Witch means all of you. OPEN your minds and see the facts that these dogs are wonderful and the MOST people loving breeds in the world.
I, personally, am not "picking on the owner in her time of loss." I consider myself a pretty responsible dog owner, and I have had LOTS of loose dogs. None has ever been killed by a car because of a combination of really reliable recalls and dumb luck.
My point is that pit bull people routinely pooh-pooh the notion that dog aggression (particularly) in pit bulls is a problem and presents a danger to other peoples' pets by saying "the solution to dog aggression is to enforce leash laws" and "responsible dog owners ALWAYS have their dogs under control." Well, here we have a clear example of a (presuably trying to be responsible) dog owner whose dog was loose. Just like thousands of other more or less responsibly owned dogs everyday. If those dogs are bred to kill other dogs (as are dog fighting pit bulls) , bad, bad things can happen when they get loose (as they almost inevitably will).
By the way, Micah, do you seriously believe that pit bulls won't fight other dogs unless they are "trained to fight?" If so, then I guess we should prosecute all the pit bull owners with dog aggressive dogs (and, according to the UKC American Pit Bull Terrier standard, that is a MAJORITY of pit bulls, so a majority of pit bull owners) for the felony of training dog fighting dogs. Right? Because (according to you) those dog aggressive dogs must have been TRAINED to be that way. Right?
Of course, this is baloney. Pit bulls fight because that is what they are bred to do. Fighting to the death is self rewarding behavior for them. Never voluntarily stopping a fight (i.e. fighting until their opponant is dead) is what pit bull breeders refer to as "gameness" and is the single most highly valued trait in many pit bull breeders' minds.
Pit bulls fight just as labs retrieve. They are pleased when their owner enjoys having them do it, but they do it for themselves.
Oh, as for your comment "Dogma", Does experience count for nothing to you. The owner of the dog in question has been involved in rescuing and rehabilitating dogs for many, many years. So YES she is qualified to own this dog. Stop spouting hate and do some impartial research about These breeds and how about actually going out and meeting with some of these dogs and their owners. Not just the Vick dogs, but Amstaffs, Staffy bulls, and American Pit bull terriers in general. This goes for all of you Pit bull haters who seem to think you are experts. Witch means all of you. OPEN your minds and see the facts that these dogs are wonderful and the MOST people loving breeds in the world.
Dogcentric, you took a lot out of my comment that wasn't there and assuming things again I never said that The only way Pit bulls fight is when they are trained I that it has been encouraged by jerk dog fighters. You need to quit grasping at straws trying to make a point from ONE small part of my comment and taking it out of context, while ignoring the rest. I know from you statement saying all pits fight to the death and that it rewarding to them that you have NEVER been around Pit bulls and have had your head filled up with all the media hype. Don't even start to tell me you have been around them for any length of time. And by calling yourself a "responsible" dog owner yet admitting to letting your dogs run loose makes you inherently a very irresponsible dog owner. Also NO responsible pit bull owner "pooh-poohs dog aggression in pit bulls it does happen, but is easily trained and socialized out and is not a trait in every pit. -continued above-
dogcentric, Since you seem to know so much about dog fighting and "gameness" you must have either forgot or omitted that Dog fighters state that only one in 600 Pit bulls are "game". To know the word you have to have read that FACT as well in you "extensive" research and experience. I have owned and fostered Pit bull type breeds for many years and each one I have fostered left my house with out a trace of dog or any kind of aggression and human aggression has NEVER been an issue with these breeds except when abused or trained to be. I have six cats in my house as well and none have ever been harmed by the many Pits that have come through my house. Both staffys that I own are considered by my neighbors and everyone who has ever met them to be the MOST well behave and obedient dogs they have ever met. I would like to know how many Pit bull breeders you know and how well because for you to know the "most desirable trait" in pit breeders minds you would have to know many breeders very well
Simply put "Dogcentric" you DO NOT know what you are talking about. You are full of misplaced hate and you seem to be all over the "Pit bull" sites regurgitating myth and lies. I don't know why you feel the need to do this and if you have had a personal experience with a Pit type dog (witch I doubt), that was just one dog and was the product of its owners. The same owners would have made any breed into a bad dog. If you haven't had a personal exp. Than SHAME on you for having an opinion on something you know NOTHING about and passing on all the lies for no reason. SHAME on you if you have had one and continue to judge all dogs of that breed from the actions of one. SHAME on you for judging all of these wonderful dogs and their owners by the actions of a very small percentage of their population. YOU AND OTHERS LIKE YOU DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING TRUTHFUL ABOUT THESE BREEDS. Give up because you and your kind have already lost, the actual facts are out and people have seen the light.
Micah I just want to say thank you from the bottom of my heart, and I'm sure from every responsible pit bull owners heart, for standing up and telling the truth. This poor woman and her family have lost a beloved pet and do not deserve what comments were made by some on here. Thank you for being such a wonderful ambassador for this breed. There are dogs every day that are hit by cars that weren't out of control. I have seen people swerve
to hit a dog on purpose! It isn't a matter of breed here, it's a matter of someone losing a beloved pet. A pet that deserves all the praise they can get. This animals breed did not cause it to be hit by a car, and without knowing all the details of the situation, no one can say that the owner was to blame. I agree with you and SHAME on anyone that believes that. Accidents happen every day.
Simply put "Dogcentric" you DO NOT know what you are talking about. You are full of misplaced hate and you seem to be all over the "Pit bull" sites regurgitating myth and lies. I don't know why you feel the need to do this and if you have had a personal experience with a Pit type dog (witch I doubt), that was just one dog and was the product of its owners. The same owners would have made any breed into a bad dog. If you haven't had a personal exp. Than SHAME on you for having an opinion on something you know NOTHING about and passing on all the lies for no reason. SHAME on you if you have had one and continue to judge all dogs of that breed from the actions of one. SHAME on you for judging all of these wonderful dogs and their owners by the actions of a very small percentage of their population. YOU AND OTHERS LIKE YOU DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING TRUTHFUL ABOUT THESE BREEDS. Give up because you and your kind have already lost, the actual facts are out and people have seen the light.
Of course I have been around pit bulls. Pit bull people love to have it both ways--they claim that pit bulls are the most common breed out there which is necessary to begin to explain the numbers of pit bulls involved in serious and fatal attacks, but then they say that most people have never even been around a pit bull. How many people have never been around a labrador retriever? (Which is the ACTUAL most common breed, by a huge margin, but which doesn't kill people in anywhere near the numbers that pit bulls do.)
No, I don't know that dog fighters say that only one in 600 pit bulls is game. I never heard that and it is a ridiculous "statistic" with no basis whatsoever (did the dog fighters do a study?). Anyway, FAR more than 1 in 600 pit bulls will kill other dogs, given the chance. That doesn't mean it is "game" (few of the other dogs have a chance against a breed of dog BRED for the propensity and ability to kill other dogs).
What did I say against the person whose dog died? The DOG WAS IN THE STREET. Either the dog owner was grossly irresponsible or she was just a normal dog owner who accidentally let a dog get loose. I assume the latter and say that I have had lots of dogs get loose myself.
The difference with pit bulls is that they are BRED to race across a pit, attack other dogs with no provocation whatsoever and keep on attacking until the other dog is dead. So when a pit bull gets loose, or around dogs it shouldn't be around, the consequences to other peoples' pets can be devastating. Occasionally, the consequences of pit bull dog aggression to humans are devastating, too. Evidence points to the likelihood that 20 year old Carter Delaney, of Leesburg Virginia was KILLED this month by two family pit bulls when he tried to defend a smaller pug mix from attack (the pug mix was killed, too).
NO responsible pit bull expert would EVER say that dog aggression is "easily trained and socialized out" of pit bulls and it is irresponsible of you to claim that, Micah. BADRAP co-founder Katie Dineen says "dog aggression is a natural part of them. They have a high drive to do this." Donna Reynolds (director of BADRAP) is even more direct: "Even with the help of neutering, training and socializing, because of those hard-wired genetics, our dogs are always going to be at risk of tripping into a dogfight if left to their own devices..."
And I hope you keep your staffys (and pit bulls) separated from each other and from your cats when you are not around to directly supervise, Micah. (And with six cats and multiple pit bulls, supervising every interaction has got to be a full time job even when you ARE around). EVERY responsible pit bull expert says to NEVER leave a bully breed unsupervised with any other animal. You may come home to a bloodbath.
If pit bulls go to heaven than heaven would be hell.
>>If pit bulls go to heaven than heaven would be hell.<<
BS. Pardon the pun. I suggest you do research on the breed, that doesn't include FOXesque-induced hysteria.
First of all "Dogcentric" you can't have it both ways and yest the pit bull is on of the most common dogs. You can lie all you want. I said and KNOW "you have never been around "PIT bull" type dogs for any length of time" certainly not enough to make the assumptions you are. By claiming I haven't been around Labs (one of the othe very popular breeds) you are doing the exact same thing you accuse me of. Trying to have it both ways. As for labs not attacking people, witch they do and often. You just don't hear about it on the news and thats NOY a scientific way to get your sats. you stats are also comparing 26 breeds commonly mistaken for pits to each individual breed (like labs) individually, again NOT scientific. You also need to stop assuming that all "pit bull" type dogs are "bred for fighting" the majority of them have been removed from that sort of breeding for quite some time and have been bred as family pets. They have been family pets for over 200 years, much longer than labs.
As for the "statistic" about the 1 in 600 dogs being able to be trained to fight in the pits isn't a stat, its from the mouths and websites of the idiots who still do it and has been handed down from their predecessors and is a fact from their nasty exp. They have been making a study of it for over 200 years. You did no research do debunk this and have no right to do so again just like the dscriber web site we have been arguing on you are making assumptions or flat out fabricating BS. (I am the foster and Staffy owner Stating facts and real world exp.) And all dogs have the propensity to kill other dogs and they have. Drop the breed specific tired old argument and start where the problem begins w/ the "thug" owners who raise these dogs and are the cause. You are also mistaken by saying all retrieving dogs are just born knowing how to do their job, just like Pit bull types retriever need to be trained, they may have a bred in ability to be TRAINED to the task they were bred. continued
As for your question "What did I say against the person whose dog died? You immediately assumed in your second paragraph in your first comment that the dog was run over due to its aggression and you have NO idea how this tragic accident happened. Anti-pit people like you like to poison, slander and do what ever necessary to hurt the rep. of these breeds. Gates w/ "Pit bull" types have been open (even locks cut) to let dogs out. As long as we are assuming someone like you could have let the poor dog who has already been through so much out of her yard. Witch has NOTHING to do w/ aggression. Here you go again claiming all Pit bulls are "BRED" to fight this has NEVER been the case for the 200+ years they have been around, most were simple family pets w/ no Pit fighting traits or exp. This is even more true today because the GREAT MAJORITY of of breeders of these dogs breed them as PETS & show dogs. Only in the inner city (where you have all your exp.) are they still bred for fighting.
As for you case of 20 year old Carter Delaney, and the claim that the dogs were "family pets" I doubt that severely. They were most likely chained up yard ornaments w/ no socialization or training WHAT SO EVER or they were abused and maybe even fought. The idiot owners just failed to admit it, all of them do and claim their dogs (who may or may NOT have been Pit bulls) to be "family pets". Why would they incriminate themselves by admitting to abuse, neglect or fighting. Moving on to you shaming me for saying aggression is easily trained and socialized out and taking BADRAP co-founder Katie Dineens words out of context. She only says this because Pit bull owners have to keep extra control of our dogs because every little thing (NO matter how insignificant or if the lab down the street just did the exact same thing) is "going to be under a microscope" even if things don't go "terribly wrong" Like if some ones pet is run over and hateful Pit bull haters turn it into an aggression issue.
There is NO AGGRESSION gene and a dog of ANY breed can and will be aggressive when not socialized, not trained, abused, or neglected. You seem to have either missed this or forgotten it. You have no exp. w/ genetics nor do you have exp. w/ "Pit bulls" and have no basis to make claims saying any certain breed is inherently more aggressive than any other. As for your "hope" that I keep my Staffys and my foster Pits away from each other and my cats. I keep m fosters in kennels when we are away, but my Staffys are always out in the house and have never harmed each other or the cats when we are gone. In 6 years nothing has happened and w/ all the dogs my wife and I have had prior to them nothing has happened. My parents have had no problems for even longer w/ their pit bull type dog and their cats when left in the house unsupervised. Again you make assumptions. When they are raised or rehabilitated right there is NOTHING to worry about. Just like w/ ANY other breed. You have no exp give up.
"Dogcentric" you will always only have Myth, lies, guesses, & made up statistics, and exaggerated horror stories from the news that are mostly a case of mistaken identity. You have NO right to make the claims you do and certainly have no right to claim my dogs aren't safe for my cats or each other. You have no exp w/ Pit bulls living in your house w/ cats, but I have vast exp w/ them going back to my child hood and have NEVER seen an incident. I have many friends that have this exp as well. You know NOTHING about what you speak of and need to QUIT because you and other like you do harm to good dogs and good people. Your exp is either from the Internet of some inner city and you have NO clue about the rest of the "Pit bull" type dogs and their owners. So STOP stereotyping them. You are a sad person who must need to hate others to feel better about yourself. I suggest you go through you comments in order and read my responses in order because thats how I disproved all your BS.
I will no longer play this back and fourth game with you because the truth has NO meaning to you and it seems you are dead bent on killing all these wonderful dogs.You are a sick person. Your head is full of lies and you can go ahead and try for the last word, but in the end the battle is almost over and people have seen the light and hear the truth that these dogs are NO different than any other breed. You and your kind have already lost because the world has begun to see through the HATE and embrace facts from real world exp. Instead of your sad little skewed Internet window. If all of you who hate would only realize that the answer is to regulate the back yard breeders NOT the dogs. The Animal behind the leash is the monster and so are you and others like you. You both cause the NEEDLESS deaths and abuse of so many INNOCENT dogs. Either by direct abuse and neglect or directly pushing Breed specific laws that NEVER work and NEVER have. Only licensed breeder should breed dogs. BYE
By the way Meaghan, I have seen Bad press given to "Pit bull" type dogs on all news networks including Fox, But I watched a VERY positive segment on the O'reily (or how ever its spelled) factor just last year. He even apologized for a previous report. Also the majority of politicians who pass BSL are actually Liberal or Democrats. I don't claim any political affiliation because there is hypocrisy in all of them and the party system is out dated. We need to start voting on the issues and beliefs of the candidates. I always try to find out whether or not the person i vote for is for or against BSL. If they are for it even if I agree w/ everything else they do, I won't vote for them.
By the way Meaghan, I have seen Bad press given to "Pit bull" type dogs on all news networks including Fox, But I watched a VERY positive segment on the O'reily (or how ever its spelled) factor just last year. He even apologized for a previous report. Also the majority of politicians who pass BSL are actually Liberal or Democrats. I don't claim any political affiliation because there is hypocrisy in all of them and the party system is out dated. We need to start voting on the issues and beliefs of the candidates. I always try to find out whether or not the person i vote for is for or against BSL. If they are for it even if I agree w/ everything else they do, I won't vote for them.
Meaghan,
I got a web site for you. Its on a conservative website I was looking at for another reason and was pleasantly surprised to find an article called "How do i tell Coco she has to die" You will have to scroll down a little, but it close to ...the top. You probably won't go for the rest of the site, but this article actually sites 5 different parts of our constitution that Bsl violates. It is by far one of, if not the best pro pit article I have read. Check it out and pass it on. You will also notice that the listed politicians are mostly Democrats. Anyway here it is: .classicalvalues (just add).com /archives/2008_05. (then just add) html They won't let us post websites so just remove the (just add) and (then just add) and you will have the real web site. Its a good one and worth a peak.
Micah,
Re keeping your dogs separate from each other and from the cats when you are out of the house, I am sure that you won't bother to educate yourself about this issue. It would be easy for you to go to any responsible pit bull board (for example, Pit Bull Forum) and ask whether it is safe to leave two bully breed dogs alone with six cats. They wpuld tell you no, and will tell you stories of people who did similar things without incident for years and one day came home to a bloodbath.
I met a nice woman with a cute SBT once and I asked her about dog aggression. She said (sadly) that he had killed one of her other dogs and added "if you own this breed long enough, it is going to happen."
But you won't learn from the tragic experiences of others. Sadly for your animals, you will have to see it for yourself.
Micah,
You say that I am "dead bent on killing all these wonderful dogs." Why, then, do you suppose I advocate for a law (mandatory microchipping of all pit bulls and pit bull mixes, mandatory spay/neuter of all pit bulls and pit bull mixes except AKC and UKC-PR registered show dogs) that wouldn't result in the death of even a SINGLE responsibly owned pit bull?
It is BALONEY that only 1 in 600 pit bulls "can be trained to fight," and I doubt you can find (even) any dog fighter making this claim. Indeed, the UKC American Pit Bull Standard explicity recognizes that most pit bulls are dog aggressive, as does every responsible pit bull authority.
Most likely what you read is some dog fighter bragging that only 1 in 600 pit bulls is totally "game" and will never stop fighting until dead. They love to brag (for example) about how some pit bull whose rear end was totally paralyzed in a fight nonetheless was so eager to keep fighting that he dragged his useless hind legs across the line to "scratch" and continue the fight. This overwhelming desire to kill other dogs no matter what injuries the dog has himself is considered to be the single most important pit bull quality.
Think how that drive to kill other dogs fits in in a normal suburban neighborhood when a child accidentally leaves the gate unlatched.
Dogcentric, A.K.A. Betsy Perkins, you are truly a pathetic, useless subhuman waste of oxygen. It's one thing for you to show up EVERYWHERE, ALL the time, spewing your inane drivel because you simply have no life or actual purpose, but to do so on a posting mourning the tragic death of an innocent being who suffered so much in her life is utterly reprehensible. How gauche!
Here's a little thought for you, you pathetic loser: While THOUSANDS of people will mourn the death of poor little Jasmine, who overcame so much pain and abuse to inspire many, I seriously doubt that even twenty people will show up for YOUR funeral when you decide to bless the world by having the decency to leave it.
Roofy is probably right that thousands of pit bull people will mourn for poor little Jasmine. Jasmine was the ideal pit bull for pit bull people to adore. She came from bad beginnings, but she had a trust fund paid for by her millionaire former owner. And she was a CELEBRITY, because she had appeared on the cover of Sports Illustrated. Pit bull people claim to hate the media, but they sure love the celebrities the media creates.
But while the pit bull community is obsessed with mourning for poor little Jasmine, they are still doing everything in their power to keep anyone from noticing all the THOUSANDS of doomed pit bulls that Best Friends had to fly over on their mission of mercy to rescue the extra special Vick pit bulls.
Best Friends admits that it turns down unwanted pit bulls (almost all of whom will die as a result because Best Friends is a shelter of last resort unless a pit bull's last name is Vick) every single day. And few of the thousands of pit bull people who are mourning poor little Jasmine's death want to hear about the thousands of OTHER pit bulls (many of whom are every bit as sweet as Jasmine) who are going to die this week in shelters because of the total, abject irresponsibility of the pit bull community.
They would rather mourn Jasmine, pretend they care, and shut their eyes to the carnage caused by irresponsible pit bull breeders.
Wouldn't it be a nice memorial to poor little Jasmine to do something to prevent the suffering/death of thousands of pit bulls? Mandatory microchipping of all pit bulls and pit bull mixes and mandatory spay/neuter of all pit bulls and pit bull mixes except AKC and UKC-PR registered show dogs would accomplish that.
Wow is all I can say about these comments. I feel bad for the poor pitty that passed over the Rainbow Bridge. I feel for her dog-parents. I have a registered APBT and she is my Isabell. It will truly be a very sad day when she crosses over and I hope that is a long time from now. My apologies to the family if they have to see these comments. Good day.
Dogcentric, A.K.A. Betsy Perkins, you are truly a pathetic, useless subhuman waste of oxygen. It's one thing for you to show up EVERYWHERE, ALL the time, spewing your inane drivel because you simply have no life or actual purpose, but to do so on a posting mourning the tragic death of an innocent being who suffered so much in her life is utterly reprehensible. How gauche!
Here's a little thought for you, you pathetic loser: While THOUSANDS of people will mourn the death of poor little Jasmine, who overcame so much pain and abuse to inspire many, I seriously doubt that even twenty people will show up for YOUR funeral when you decide to bless the world by having the decency to leave it.
I have been thinking about the attitude of the majority of pit bull people and wondering where it comes from. Not only do they self-evidently not care about pit bulls who suffer and die in horrific numbers because of the irresponsibility of the pit bull community, they get horrendously ANGRY if anybody suggests that they should care or even mentions the problem.
Look at the comments of Roofy, below. He is wishing for me to die. Isn't that a bit of an excessive wish for somebody who is only advocating spaying and neutering dogs who shouldn't be bred? Why is Roofy unable to control himself? Roofy actually professes to believe that NO dog should be bred, so even if he thinks that my plan isn't the best, in his mind, why would it provoke him to such irrational displays of anger that he is saying that I should die?
So what prompts Roofy's irrationality and out of control anger? (My theory in the next post).
My theory about Roofy (and, although most folks can control themselves a bit more than Roofy, his anger is far from atypical for pit bull fanciers) is that pit bull people are different. Let me explain.
Most dog owners understand when they get a dog, they are getting a being that they will protect and nurture. They WANT to do that, which is one of the reasons that they get a dog. Pit bull people are frequently attracted to pit bull ownership because they want to BE protected by the dog. (They want a guard dog, a weapon, whatever). Hence, the pit bull community's indifference to the thousands of unwanted pit bulls who die every week in shelters. These unwanted pit bulls are useless to protect the pit bull people and are therefore nothing to get very concerned about.
Of course not all pit bull owners want a weapon. But enough do (and the founders of the breed do) to influence the party line that pit bull people repeat.
Breed specific legislation is different from the suffering and dying of thousands of unwanted pit bulls in shelters and pit bull people DO get extremely concerned about bsl. This is because the danger there is that somebody may take THEIR pit bull. Pit bull people people frequently see themselves as victims (and many of them probably are frequently victims in real life) so something that can potentially make them seem like real victims is consistent with their view of life.
Hence, we get huge amounts of attention from pit bull people about owned pit bulls who die (particularly from bsl, because that is a way for pit bull people to emphasize what victims they are), and no attention to unowned, unwanted pit bulls who die. Indeed, if anybody asks pit bull people to focus on the suffering and deaths of thousands of pit bulls, they get ANGRY because the victim spotlight is being taken off THEM.
Or maybe not. Anybody else want to guess why Roofy is so out of control?
Betsy, you are a desperate, attention-seeking, pathetic waste of oxygen. AND a proven liar. Once again, you twist words and use them out of context. I did not wish you would die, dear, I simply stated that you would be doing the world a tremendous service by doing so.
I mourn the tragic death of Jasmine the same way I mourn for the MILLIONS dogs of ALL breeds who are put to death in shelters every year, while greedy breeders of EVERY breed continue to produce more dogs to line their pockets. But you and your AKC buddies continue to SUPPORT the puppy millers!!
Using a posting mourning the tragic death of a poor little soul who suffered so much as a launchpad for your tired, pathetic, boring cut and paste attention seeking behavior belies your claim of being a person of some social graces. ANYONE with ANY class or couth would have the decency to put their personal agenda aside, or just shut up. But that's not how you Dogsbite wackos work, is it? How tasteless!
Again, Roofy is letting his rage get the better of him. And exactly WHAT has enraged him so? My suggestion that pit bulls need a law that will PROTECT them from the irrepsonsible scumbags who exploit them.
Mandatory microchipping of all pit bulls and pit bull mixes and mandatory spay/neuter of all pit bulls and pit bull mixes except AKC and UKC-PR registered show dogs will alleviate the suffering of the THOUSANDS (literally) of pit bulls who die in this country every week because they are unwanted. Shelters are GLUTTED with pit bulls, (80% of the dogs put down in NYC shelters are pit bulls, for example) a great majority of whom are doomed and almost all of whom suffered horribly in their lives before they were dumped at a shelter to die.
Meanwhile, in breeds where most breeders are NOT irresponsible, NO dogs or very few dogs die in shelters. Remember, President Obama's family wanted a Portuguese water dog from a shelter and there were NONE TO BE HAD. Why is that?
And, nope, Roofy, I don't "support the puppy millers." Anyway, AKC supports YOUR position on breed specific legislation, not mine. AKC opposes all breed specific legislation, just like you.
Although you haven't yet told us whether you support the common practice of breed specific free spay/neuter for pit bulls only--do you think portuguese water dog owners should be entitled to some of that pork?
But if you want to spew your venom at AKC, be my guest. (Maybe you want to cut and paste your "waste of oxygen" post again and put in "AKC" in relevant spots). Maybe if AKC sees the pit bull community acting like it acts, that will make AKC wonder why it is spending so much money mindlessly supporting the "right" of pit bull breeders to profit off the suffering of pit bulls and the deaths of children and why it is spending lots of resources fighting the kind of rational and humane breed specific legislation that is necessary to protect both dogs and communities.
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