The internet is abuzz with claims that Kirstie Alley’s new weight loss program, Organic Liaison is a linked with Scientology. Apparently a number of members on her advisory board are fellow Scientologists. It doesn’t help that her company’s main office is in Clearwater, Florida…as is the main offices for Scientology. Coincidence or truth? Time will tell.
Some are drawing comparisons between Kirstie’s weight loss supplements and the purification rundown program developed by Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard. His controversial program claims to manage the long term effects of both drug abuse and toxic exposures, there are claims that it can treat conditions from cancer to obesity. The program contains high doses of vitamins and minerals, in particular niacin (up to 250 times the RDA). CalMag (Calcium + magnesium) is given up to three times daily. Calcium and magnesium supplements are sold both as nutrient supplements and for constipation.
So are there similarities? The Organic Liaison program also contains many vitamins and minerals. In addition a number of herbal supplements are added. The Release Me product is a calcium & magnesium product. One message that seems to be found in both programs is the claim that these products ‘counteract’ or ‘remove’ toxins. In addition the Organic Liaison products claim to allow the body to rest and cleanse naturally, maintain metabolism, decrease appetite and cravings while increasing energy.
Is this program simply an updated version of the purification program? Certainly there are some similarities between the two programs. Coincidence? Possibly. But given Kirstie’s experience going through the program herself (for cocaine addiction) it has many people wondering.
The bottom line is that the products being peddled are not necessary to lose weight. Being organic does not make them more effective. It comes down to burning more calories than you eat. Whether through diet change or exercise or both (both is best).
It is disturbing that on Kirstie’s, the diet and exercise portion seems to be downplayed. Until purchasing the 5 supplements you can’t access any of the information. If this was such a great plan, why can’t people join without the supplements?
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Excellent points, particularly in your last paragraph, about not being able to access any of the diet fundamental "secrets" until you've paid for the "boo-shi." (Kirstie-speak). In this case, instead of a bogus course, it is Scientology-like medically scientifock vitamin/appetite suppressors/IQ raisers?
Kind of like have to pay hundreds of thousands to find out about Xenu, and that Scientology really means you are crawling with the souls of dead space aliens and are going to be spending many years and thousands of $ to get rid of them.
These Scilons don't give anything away for free, and then what you pay for is boo-shi.
Something to keep in mind. In the purif thing. Scilons are at least sweating a lot of these things out of their system. With this diet, we'll have to wait and see if anyone drops dead from the supplements.
Scientology banks on ignorance of basic science with it's explicitly vague language, water "removes toxins", the lactic acid your cells, for instance. Mercury bio-accumulates, I would'nt trust someone like who L Ron Hubbard, who thought that radiation is flushed away with water, like dog poo, to know how to
remove it.
Hey, I agree that Kirstie's diet plan looks like so much over-priced bu-shi. But so do any number of plans and supplements that crowd the health food store shelves and appear all over the internet and late-night infomercials.
What makes this one different is it gives the anti-Scientology crowd yet another opportunity to trot out their tired propaganda and to rag on a celebrity simply for being a Scientologist.
There are certainly instances of abuse in Scientology. And maybe some good can come of protesting those abuses.
Harassing Kirstie is not the same thing as protesting abuse, guys. To paraphrase the immortal Chris Crocker:
LEAVE KIRSTIE ALONE!!
@Mostly
You just don't get it do you. Hubbard set out in 1955, with PROJECT CELEBRITY, to "hunt" celebrities like "quarry," as opinion makers, for his bogus mind control therapy turned religion called "Scientology."
Celebrities are handled and sheltered specially. The only reason Paul Haggis woke up, is that his wife had been DISCONNECTED from her parents, and he happened to hear Tommy Davis saying on TV that there was no such thing as a Disconnection policy.
Most celebrities do not read any "entheta" (truth about Scientology) and instead become huge contributors to this scam, both financially and using their image.
Also, this diet rip-off is NOT just like herbal diet pills in the store. It is ten times more expensive, just like Scientology traps people into 2nd mortgaging the house just to pay for a $60,000 course package, or sell their kids into Sea Org slavery.
Kirstie should start her own religion. Make people worship her fat.
Actually, I very much get it. Crap like "These Scilons don't give anything away for free" is bigotry, pure and simple. Tieing the fact that Kirstie's products may be over-priced to her religion and then extending that smear to all Scientologists is just so much hateful "bu-shi".
@Mostly
Bigotry is built into the totalitarian brainwashing scam of Scientology.
You are the ones with the fixed ideas about your superiority over other men, and Xenu, and his evil psychiatrists 75 million years ago, and how psychiatry, a respected branch of medicine, must be "obliterated." (The word used by David Miscavige, your present high school dropout leader.)
Education must be reformed, according to the dictates of L. Ron Hubbard, a college flunk out, as interpreted by David Miscavige, a high school dropout.
Tom Cruise, high school dropout, authority on the mind.
Kirstie Alley, college dropout, authority on diet.
You think you are going to be free or criticism by using L. Ron Hubbard tech to attack or brand every critic a "hater" or bigot. Think again.
Scientology is a farce and a trap. No person of any education or reputation in science, or as a thinker, sticks up for this scam.
Nice rant. Same one I see posted all over the internet. If repeition made something true . . .
Err, we are talking here about Kirstie Alley. Who, BTW, does not claim to be an "authority on diet". Just someone that wanted to find a better diet and worked with people she (not you) trusted to help her.
Sorry to interrupt with facts.
Not to mention that people that don't finish college (or even high school) are allowed to know things, too. Even know what an "argumentum ad hominem" is. Golly, did I just use Latin? I better check my degrees to make sure I am allowed to.
@Mostly
Help Kirstie do what? Start an overpriced diet scam?
She's only lost 20 lbs. on the diet herself, and on the last diet she was paid the big bucks for promoting, she not only gained all the weight back, but she put on thirty more pounds.
Look up "hypocrite" in your cult dictionary.
Kirstie is asking people to buy into a weight loss scam, she hasn't even used successfully herself.
Good, at least we are on topic now :)
I agree that Kirstie promoting this diet might be a bit premature (OK, a lot premature).
What I really think is going on here is that someone other than WISE that is in that same Clearwater building (hint - wheatgrass) talked Kirstie into lending her name to their (very pricey) new diet plan.
This is not any Scientology master plan, IMO. It is just a fat actress lending her name to another diet plan. Hey, I wish her luck on losing weight though I could care less if they make any money at it (I am not a big fan of supplements at 500% mark-up).
Scientology might be repatriating or pretty much laundering all the money L Ron smuggled out of this country into European banks by purchasing real estate with it but I bet Scientology's net income falls every year, it's losing members every year.
So this is another Scientology diversification meant to make money, like Narconon and Criminon and "study tech".
the Organic Liaison Web site is saying we weigh more because of the toxins in our fat cells.seriously! thats the only Science or explanation they can give us?.
the Strange thing is Thats what L Ron Hubbard Claimed about drugs.and dieting in his pseudo science. dangerous mumbo,jumbo quackery.
the web site claims to have the best science and research without revealing any of it.other than the "toxins stored in our fat cells"
all for $1500 a year plus,I say plus because they are hawking more miracle vitamins,you can buy and adding additional costs to the programs.
with a line of phitness clothes and detox diet centers (saunas?)
on the way? via "Kamp Kristie"
with the "toxins in our fat cells claim" the purification detox is on its way.
L Ron Hubbard would be proud of this Scam Kirstie!
You can look in JSTOR and find TONS of articles about toxins being stored in the human body in fatty tissue (as well as other areas like bone, etc.). Just because Scientology believes something to be true doesn't mean it's automatically false! Like all philosophies (religious or secular) it has good and not-so-great things.
Hubbard himself even said (paraphrasing here as I don't have the actually reference on me) that even if he said it was true and then you found out later it wasn't true for you that - it's not true. There are several references to this effect, and he never claimed to be perfect - quite the opposite really he's often self-deprecating and witty in his writing.
I was a Scientologist for several years, have friends who are still active Scientologists including staff, and I'm studying for a Ph.D in a medical/health related field so I know whereof I speak on BOTH topics - better yet I have no ax to grind either way. I prefer Buddhism these days but do get annoyed when people are bigots or 'judge' something they have no experience with. As the old saying (out of the Christian bible) goes "don't judge lest ye be judged" - I think it's a good adage to live by.
looking at the Organic Liaison web site,and the TV show on A&E
I noticed something
in written testimonials on the OL web site are bogus,among them are ,Jim Hazel (Chubby Buddy) the Hapless Handyman on the Kirstie Alleys Big Lie A&E show
,Lisa Minor a close personal friend of Kirstie and a executive producer of (Oprahs Show) also appears briefly on Big Lie
Robin Mandrel Shereshevsky (Employee of Organic Liaison)Marketing also appears briefly on Big Lie
and in the testimonial video on the Organic Liaison
the first person is Peggy Crawford Long time employee of Kirstie and (Organic Liaison CEO) also appears on Big Lie where shes captioned as Organic Liaison CEO
also appearing in the testimonial video may be Jo Lauricella (longtime personal assistant to Kirstie) as well.
with the exception of Lisa Minor the above mentioned are all Scientologists. so far the persons on the web site are either employees of Organic Liaisons,or work for Kirstie, or close are friends seems disin
I lost 75lbs in 6 months about 4 years ago & I have maintained that weight since. I ate less food, added a lot of vegetables to my diet & I exercised. This weight loss plan cost me nothing. It works, just give it a try. She wants you to think her product will melt fat away. Under her plan you have to eat less & exercise. Sound familiar? Save $1500 a year & do it my way. Check with your Dr first.
this is an awful diet,I though I would try it.not only did I wait 3 weeks for my order to be filled.I got the run around when I tried finding out when my order was shipped.
when I tried to cancel the diet
it was a rude awaking dealing with the Staff. I finally did cancel my order. but not without them taking an extra dip in my credit account!
the product tastes like horrible it doesn't mix well
the products don't have the contents and the amounts on the labels.that info is on the web site but for members only.
I took the information down and consulted my doctor about the dosage of some of the vitamins he told me that the dosages on most of the supplements are way above normal and no one should not take them.
and that over time it could possibly cause harm
the online diet plans suggested 5000! calories a week!!another red flag,no mater how you configure that is according to my Doctor extremely un-healthy and potentially dangerous
8 phone calls in all to settle the mess.
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