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Political organizers of the April 15th Tax Day Tea Party have symbolically scheduled new tea parties for July 4th. And a look at their site reveals their complaints: taxes that are too high, higher deficits and they don't like Obama's economic plan. Well, I havent been crazy about it either.
But the problem with the Tax Day Tea Party movement is that the chief organizers,political conservatives, the same people who are now complaining about deficits, are the same people who kept their mouths shut for 8 years while George W. Bush ran the country into the ground with his nonsensical, inept incompetent policies, enabled by a compliant, irresponsible Republican congress.Which reveals the Tax Day Tea Party movement in terms of the organizers as nothing more than a partisan political event.
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There were no complaints about the deficit from conservatives or Republicans when Bush became the first President in history to lower taxes and take the country to war at the same time, which is what exploded the deficit in the first place. They said nothing when the Iraq war was burning through $1 billion a day as the worst foreign policy decision in American history as well as the most mismanaged ill conceived post war fiasco in American history. They also had nothing to say when Paul O'Neill, Bush's Secretary of the Treasury quit over Bush's economic polices, policies which led to the worst economic disaster since the Depression.
The point is the tax day tea parties of both April 15th and now July 4th is not the grass roots effort it pretends to be, but a woefully transparent partisan exercise by conservative Republicans who ran from the truth for 8 years like a vampire runs from a crucifix and are now cloaking their partisan agenda as some kind of grassroots non-partisan effort. That was obvious when the April 15th tax day tea party in New York City featured Newt Gingrich as the keynote speaker, a man who couldn't get himself elected dog catcher in New York City.
All one has to do is look at the Official Tax Day Tea Party web site to see what a partisan exercise it is. Which is not to say that the organizers haven't duped a lot of sincere people who have something less than confidence in Obama and how he is handling the Presidency. Count me as one of those. But the tax day tea party reveals itself to be essentially a partisan sham.
This is an excerpt from the home page of the tax day tea party site.
"Obama and liberals in Congress are taking us down the road to socialism, seizing control of key banks, insurance companies, the automobile industry, etc. They are currently working on a government funded national health care program which is expected to cost roughly $2 trillion while rationing services."
Obviously the far right has not learned their lesson -- that they are not going to lie their way into political power. Just about every word in the above paragraph is an out and out lie and perhaps they think they can appeal to some people who don't know the difference but not enough to win an election.
I was totally opposed to the GM bailout and said so back in November and was opposed to the AIG bailout as well but using words like "seizing control of key banks insurance companies, the automobile industry etc" sounds like the kind of dumb pamphlet printed on cheap paper with the ink smudging, that used get handed out on the streets of New York in the 1960's by a guy handing out flyers for massage parlors at the same time.
Note their clumsy use of the words "key banks" as if there was some kind of nefarious plot going on to only "seize",. certain banks. It borders on the infantile. Unless by the use of the word "key" they mean "failing" then yes, large failing banks that were about to go under were bailed out and since if they had gone under and it could have caused a run on all banks, I suppose you could call them "key". But that was all done on the advice of Bush's economic team in November of 2008, notably Bernake.
This site is also so out of touch with reality that they don't know that the national health care program now being proposed, whether you are for it or against it , has been budgeted out by the non-partisan and highly respected Congressional Budget Office at $600 billion, less than half the nonsensical $2 trillion this site is claiming.
Here are the facts: The country is in trouble economically, in a deep recession brought on by the economic polices of George Bush and the Republicans. The unemployment since Obama took office has gotten worse.The banks have been stablized. $39 billion in bailout money for GM went down the drain and never should have been granted in the first place. I see little or no benefits yet from the so called stimulus. The stimulus money that was supposed to create jobs or save jobs so far hasn't worked. And Paul Krugman the liberal economist who writes a column for the New York Times wrote some time ago that Obama's plan was not going to work, was spending too much and would return too little. So much for the clumsy attempt at the Tax Day Tea Party organizers to try and pin the problems on liberals which is nothing more than pathetically transparent partisanship trying to gain political advantage.
There are real problems and they are not going to get solved by conservative political consultants masquerading as organizers of a grass roots effort by non-partisan independents even if they do succeed in recruiting some well meaning sincere people who think it is non-partisan.
The last group of people who have anything to complain about are the conservatives who played "see no evil, speak no evil hear no evil" while George Bush and a reckless, incompetent irresponsible Republican congress let him get away with it for 8 years violating every conservative principle they stood for.
We do have responsible Republicans whose voices need to be paid attention to and who unfortunatley are being largely ignored because when Republicans were in power and could have spoken out, didn't. Among those Republican voices whose economic positions have reflected my own are Shelby of Alabama, Corker of Tennessee Graham of South Carolina, Grassley and to some extent, McCain.
But for the most part trying to make political hay or tea out of Obama's economic mistakes is not going to work. People have longer memories than that. No matter how you look at it, Republican control of the government and their inept policies and then silence when it counted most are responsible for the present economic mess and whether what Obama does succeeds or fails, its hard to blame those trying to clean up the mess more than the people who made it.
The July 4th Tax Day tea parties are a lot like 4th of July fireworks. They look good, make a lot of noise, attract a crowd, and then the next day are forgotten.
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B O took the deficit and trippled it.
People like you is why your newspaper and the country is bankrupt. Why is it always about G. Bush? Last time I checked he wasn,t The President. The fact is that G. bush wasn't much better than this clown we have now. Obama has one agenda. His agenda is to bring this great country to its knees, crash the dollar, and create Obama's World Order. The tea parties are about regular Americans from all walks of life who want the insane spending to stop and want some real representation from their officials. Instead of denoucing the tea parties as some right wing radiacal thing, A real news person would go to a tea party and do the real researh. Just a concerned independent.
WOW, look at all those white republicans in one spot.
I can't believe that many people have been in a coma for the last 30 years.
This article was denigrating. The R's lost in 06 and 08 because they did lose their fundamental conservative groundings. D's controlled congress for the last 2 years when the fiscal irresponsibility took off. We need clear and unambiguous leadership from our elected officials. TEA parties are to raise this awareness. I was not considering going to the one today, but now feel compelled to attend.
WASPMC..........White anglo saxon protistent male conservative, sick and tired of our future. So many cry baby's, liberal controlled media, California idiots, I weep for our future.
You are pretty much beating a dead horse - the republican idiots who dragged this country though the muck of their narrow minded jingoist policies and bankrupted it. If we ever get out of this, we will be paying for it for the next 50 years. Thanks GW and the rest of your party of hypocrites.
Plum hunter, bite my crank.
"...the same people who kept their mouths shut for 8 years while George W. Bush ran the country into the ground..."
So if you plug your ears, nobody said anything? Come on--Hannity, Limbaugh and Beck were screaming about GWB's spending the whole time. We hated the Bush steel tariffs and prescription subsidy and the drunken-sailor-spending in congress, which is why the R's lost in '06.
But your logic is a marvel: Bush spent like a dervish, so Obama is free to TRIPLE it. Hmmm.
Unread, uninformed, unintelligent, narrow minded single point of view socialist. 2 sides to a story Plum sucker, read and learn...or can't you handle the truth and facts?
How about I send a state full of do nothings to your back yard and you can take care of them? That's what you cry babies are all about.
Obama is the most prolific liar that has ever occupied the White House. He makes Nixon and LBJ and Clinton look like pikers. Lower taxes-wrong!! Less pork-wrong. He has spent more and created bigger deficits than all of the presidents combined. And he hasn't even started.
Hey hand outs, can you handle Thom'S FACTS?
Wait, TEA Parties are about high taxes and even higher deficits? I thought according to those brilliant "journalists" over at MSNBC and that idiot, 'Jane you ignorant slut", GaRUFallo, that this was all about hating a black man!
But of course who could forget the prize reporter from the Obama mouthpiece CNN, where the reporters don't report the news, they DEBATE the man on the street they are interviewing because they don't like what he is saying?
You mean Tea Parties aren't that?!
And of course their is the end all, be all
Operation, I tip one to you. Where are the socialists? Oops, that's right, they always bail when the facts come out.
Plum Bobber, where did you go?
Mark are you as dumb as you seem. Spread the socialist propaganda.Just don't tax me I make under 250,000. Obumer the brilliant socialist economist has tripled debt with nothing to show but more unemployment.Yes he can. Love the Obummer Tee Shirts in the unemployment lines.
i organized a tea party, and I didn't keep my mouth chut during the
Bush years.. So there goes your theory!!
As I said Jock, where did all the cry baby's go? How in the world can you argue the economics, the lies, the debt? How can they keep their heads in the sand? I hope they all stay away from parades today. No communists allowed insulting those that created this country and died for it. Go kiss Jane Fonda's ass.
Wayne, where did YOU go? Still wetting the bed for Bama-bin-Bambo? Never found a socialist packing the right gear. Bet you like Franken too, just as much on his resume as the uppity ass that you used a crayon to vote for taking up all of the state owned media air time.
It's funny seeing people like you talk. You really think the country is going to stand by as this Obama's govermant take our rights and money away. Really,, I'm sorry but I like my freedom to much to sit back and like this new gov take away my freedoms bit by bit. Time has come for a change and this is not the change we all been looking for. Just wait,, in the next year or so we'll see the great powers that we had as americans go away. Big gov will take over. Oh but wait,, if your poor, never worked, taking money for the gov to help our drug habbit, then your like is going to be great. Just can't smoke in a bar anymore. Smoking is bad for you and now with gov health care you have to stop smoking. Just think for once people! Big Gov. is not the way to go. with over 1,400 tea parties going on across america today I'm thinking most of you out there are not dumb and see what is going on. And to you dumb ass foks on the left,,, go to hell.
What needs to be forgotten, is what happen years ago and concentrate on today. President Bush added to the deficit, with help from Congress of course, but it took them 8 years to increase it by 900 billion or so. This president has increased it 4 trillion dolars, and did so in just 4 months!
There is simply no comparison, and what President Bush did has nothing to do with what is going on today. People, like this author, simply do not want to face the truth, preferring instead to live in the past, and close their eyes and ears.
It is the hope of Americans across this country, that millions turn out, and this sends a clear message to those in Washington. It will not be forgotten. The tax parties of April 15, are still discussed daily, and are far from forgotten.
There is no excuse for any American to not support this movement, that is those who work for a living and expect to keep what they earn.
The conclusion, therefore, must be, that those who do not support it, do not wo
As the Republican and Democratic supporters argue with each other, the upper 1% plutocracy continues on with their wildly successful divide and conquer strategy.
If Republican and Democratic voters ever got together (E Pluribus Unum, From the many, one.) they could remove all of the trea sonous Democratic and Republican politicians who are loyal to the plutocracy instead of WE THE PEOPLE.
Bush/Obama = Change you can believe in that remains the same!
When will WE THE PEOPLE stop being wee the sheeple?
i like how every day we hear debate after debate and for what? how are these going to stop obama from spending all our money or change the past spendings? it sounds to me that these people doing the tea party are exercising their right of free speech in hope that their actions are going to open some eyes on the in side of the government. only then will we start seeing some logic that will make since, changing our future and the future of our following generations.
Rubin,
Go bury your pen. You shouldn't write about things you have no clue about. The is NOT about Republican and Democrat, or Bush and Obama... This is about American's getting their country back from ALL the lying, conniving, self-serving "servants" in Washington who do nothing to promote or legislate the peoples wishes. They only want to promote their own agendas, and cater to whatever special interests that will keep their ass in their elected seat. WAKE UP!!!!
I was never happy about the expansion of government under president bush and I let others know how I felt. Obama has taken us closer to Socialism more and faster than any other president in history.
I will not sit back and just allow Obama to destroy the country I love.
just got back from a tea party...the most patriotic 4th I've spent in my 44 yrs. i've spent the better part of my life working and supporting a family, ignoring the festering cancer that's been growing in this country...no more, i am awake...and i am angry
Many of the TEA Party demonstrators are Ron Paul supporters.
Ron's been talking a lot about abolishing the Fed. Ron Paul,
if your reading this, forget about the Federal Reserve for
now and let's focus on the axis of evil: the Chamber of
Commerce and the WTO. The Neocons certainly don't support
that position, but I think many traditional conservatives
will.
Let's forget about Neocons like Tom Cox and support people
like Chuck Baldwin who will stand up against the erosion of
U.S. sovereignty. Happy 4th to all.
Support HR 1207 to audit the Federal Reserve.
Support HR 1868 to end the so called anchor baby entitlement.
Come 2010 we can take our Country back. Vote for fiscally responsible candidates.
It will be interesting to see if Palin moves to the Independent Party.
We had a great turn out at the Tea Party today and they were a large group that was included in our local parade.
2010 Change We Can Hope For.
I noticed and ad for Tom Campbell for Governor.
Tom Campbell, repeat after me:
"No to H1-B Visas"
"No to Chamber of Commerce"
"No to WTO"
"No to illegal immigration"
"Yes to U.S. sovereignty"
Now repeat those again and again until you learn them.
There were plenty of complaints from us (conservatives, libertarians, republicans, constitutionalists, etc). But we are being pushed too far.
Fiscal irresponsibility is one thing. That does a lot of damage, but not irreversibly so.
But when Congress is just a few pen-strokes away from permanently emasculating the free market (free-market capitalism being essential to a free people), please do not feign surprise when many of us begin speaking louder. You can also be as dismissive as you wish of what we do and say, but we are growing in numbers and in volume, and you will turn around one day and wonder where we all came from.
Jack (gay free-market libertarian, [lower-case "r"] republican
If you were really that angry about GWB you should have had protests. Why did it have to be presumably the Republicans? Which, by the way, is not. We want a resumption to our Constitutional Rights and for our Amendment Rights to be actually that, our rights. I don't know why that is so difficult for you to understand that.
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Yes there are HUGE deficits and Obama's solution is to spend and borrow till the next generation? What part of stupid don't you get?
The Tea Parties are non-partisan. Very few people in those crowds are happy with GW's performance. People are angry with Obama because they bought into the lie that he would be different at a time when people really needed someone different. Betrayal is a mf'er.
Marc said
"And Paul Krugman the liberal economist who writes a column for the New York Times wrote some time ago that Obama's plan was not going to work, was spending too much and would return too little."
Krugman's July 2,2009 column
"We’re going to need a bigger stimulus."
"President Obama and his officials need to ramp up their efforts, starting with a plan to make the stimulus bigger."
"So getting another round of stimulus will be difficult. But it’s essential."
This is a very partisan article, trying to denigrate the very real feeling of dissatisfaction with our government that is sweeping across the country.
"But for the most part trying to make political hay or tea out of Obama's economic mistakes is not going to work. People have longer memories than that."
"They look good, make a lot of noise, attract a crowd, and then the next day are forgotten."
Well, which is it? Or, does the first apply to one side of the debate and the second to the other?
Here is a fact for you, Sir. The fact is, Obama and the Democrats have quadrupled an already horrendous deficit and want to do even more.
We don't have the money for any more of their shenanigans.
As I've said for the last 4 years, Bush is the greatest socialist democrat liberals ever hated in the White House. Now a marxist thug is in there spending trillions not 400-500 billion. Get your head out of the sand you mind numbed MSNBC robot!
The deficit went down for four straight years under Bush until the lib congress took over in 2006 and escalated it in 2007.
And GW's lowering of taxes brought in more revenue, so if you want to throw around accusations of "lies", Mr. Rubin, you may want to start by reading your own nonsensical garbage hackery.
God help us! The real America is waking up to this total nonsense in the way obama, congress, Dems and Repubs are carring this country. Maybe we need a new election for the whole bunch this Nov. :).
Oh,, I forgot,, want to comment now that you had time to think where we really are going Rubin? Jeeez
DK, What?
Brien James says:
"The Tea Parties are non-partisan"
WRONG!
Tea Parties were started and funded by the upper 1% Plutocracy and promoted on Faux Gnus.
If you support Tea Parties, then you support tax cuts for the upper 1%.
What we need is a WE THE PEOPLE party in D.C. will millions in attendance so we can have our mutinous representative address our grievances before we summarily kick them out!
WE THE PEOPLE are the true sovereignty within the U.S. Not even the Constitution has a higher legal or legislative authority.
They are not the boss of us, we are the boss of them. Collectively, WE can do anything WE want, while our representatives must do everything We say!
Dick Cheney said recently that Ronald Reagan proved deficits don't matter. Huh. But yet, the right wingers are freaking out! Think about it, Reagan taxed us and spent like a drunken soldier and America didn't fail.
Kevin and Kaylyn, still waking up with those nightmares screaming, daddy don't touch me there? You are idiots (see earlier comment). Why are you drones refusing the facts? We are here and Bamba is trashing this country, hum........how bad would dem face suck me dry, entitled, non working ass holes, run it into the ground if he was really from here? From a commie area and state. Sick and tired of pricks like you sucking on working teat. Go pick up your welfare check trash. Bush bash? Can tell you need new material......pick up a book or dial in something other than state owned media...........deny that tail gunner.
Conservatives are so full of it on this issue. The rich get away with a lower effective tax rate than the middle class after write-offs and loopholes. One year the 400 richest Americans paid 17.2% income tax rate, which is absurd. Corporations are great at it too - Cisco paid zero federal income taxes one year. The system is already gamed to favor the rich. Obama wants to bring taxes back up to Reagan-era levels for the wealthiest - OH NO!!
The irony is, because of this fear mongering, the administration is too chicken to back the right size stimulus bill. Most economists believe the bill was TOO SMALL. FDR was able to mitigate damage during the depression, but he too actually did not think big enough, so we paid for it for years. We need a big audacious package to bring us out of this. They failed. They can still right the course.
Minority is an idiot with perverted fantasies of having sex with daddy. Nothing but mudslinging in his or her cowardice anonymous comment.
"it is clear that the majority of our elected officials and the Supreme Court in D.C. are not running the show; they are just doing the bidding of the privileged "entitled" elite.
We the people must be the patriots of our own modern revolution. The government must once again belong to us."
blog.buzzflash.com/node/8901
Again, this is not about Republicans vs. Democrats, this is about WE THE PEOPLE vs. the upper 1% plutocracy that controls our federal government.
Stop your petty bickering and start remembering the true motto of the U.S.:
E Pluribus Unum
From the many, one
WE THE PEOPLE are the true sovereignty!
Schmiddity, still stapping it on? You wake up. Your vague and paltry diatribe impresses only your self and your battery operated glory tool. Light off a fire cracker,remember it was not tail gunners like you that made and kept this country free and put your boy tool to bed.
Wow. You really have no idea what's going on, do you. Do you know how many Democrats have attended the tea parties? I, myself, am an Independent and did not like the way Bush handled a lot of issues, however, the dems he had to deal with were not much help. You'd better wake up if your goal is to report accurately!!!!!!
Here I am am.....just arrived from Iraq to my home state of Maine three days ago and what do I read...another bleeding heart liberal that does not understand the long term objective of the (my) mission in Iraq.
Let me tell you Marc what you will never see or understand because your head is up your left wing media bias ways. Okay, let's start so you can understand what I ACHIEVED in Iraq since 2005.
1 - Supervised the building of new hospitals an schools.
2- Mediated local elections with local law and MP.
3 - Ventured out to Iraqi citizens of NOT TO FEAR a new governemt for the people of Iraq. NOT to a Dictator. That is just a sample. How about tihs Marc:
1 - Iraqis telling me THANK YOU THANK YOU for the USA (while showing me pictures of those killed by some unknown reason while S. Hussien was in power.
The best: Is that Iran saw the NEW FREEDOMS Iraqis had with new elections and now want the same freedoms the USA provided.
LIBERALS WILL NEVER GET IT - GOD BLESS USA!
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