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There was another tea party protest rally in Washington to demonstrate against the House health care bill which will be put to a vote over the weekend.
The Republicans, led by John Boehner, spent the day making speeches about the proposed health care bill, all of it based on what Republicans say will be the results if the bill is passed. ( one of the featured speakers was actor Jon Voight. When actors like Susan Sarandon and Sean Penn speak out on behalf of liberal causes, Republicans mock them as "just" actors and who cares what they think? Determined to stick to their label of being The National Hypocrite Party ,the same doesn't apply if its an actor supporting their agenda)
Boehner used the favorite Republican talking point that the public option would lead to a government take over of health care. But there is nothing in the bill that suggests it will lead to a government take over. In fact if they were paying attention they would know many Democrats who support universal healthcare feel this bill doesn't go far enough in that direction. So is that what they really think (which would make them dumb) or is it something they are using to try and rile up their base (which means they are lying). And if they are actually making a prediction, the fact is every prediction Republicans have made over the last 15 years has been wrong. Which could mean they are both lying and dumb.
The favorite mantra of the tea party protestors is that the public option will add to the deficit ( they also say its socialism but there is room for only so much stupidity to be analzyed in one column). They say it even though the CBO has scored 4 of the 5 health care bills and said they would acutally reduce deficit. Needless to say the news media, especially CNN seems to give equal weight to the estimates of the CBO and tea party protestors wearing "Obama Sucks" t-shirts. So we can add the news media to the dumb category also.
And if that wasnt enough stupidity to go around, at what might well be called a Stupidity Rally, John Boehner waved a document that he said was the constitution and told the assembled tea partiers that he stood with the constitution. Waving the document aloft he yelled into his microphone with the legislatively psychotic Virginia Foxx nodding behind him, that he "stood behind the words of the constitution" that " we hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal and that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights including life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness!" And the crowd went wild.
The problem is those words are not in the constitution. They are in the Declaration of Independence. So like most Republicans and tea party protestors, Boehner has spent as much time reading the constitution and knowing what's in it as he did the health care bill. And his knowledge of what's in both is about the same.
Rep. Michelle Bachman, again showing how out of touch Republicans are, warned that "Democrats have not learned the lessons of town hall meetings". The only lessons to be learned from the town hall meetings is that you just ignore lunatics who were nothing more than dupes of Republican organizers who sent them memos telling them when and how to shout, yell and otherwise disrupt the meetings. The memo was already made public. Maybe Bachman didnt see it.
One more piece of lunacy at the tea party rally was actor John Ratzenberger who played Cliff on "Cheers" (seems like Republicans love what actors have to say as long as they are saying what they want them to). He denounced the health care bill by saying, "Remember, these are Woodstock Democrats.Their philopsophy doesn't come from America it comes from overseas".
So now we also have a Republican who not only doesn't have a clue about health care reform, he doesn't know what Woodstock was about either or, the Sixties. Sounds like John spent the sixties watching the girls in the miniskirts go off with someone else, maybe the prime motivating factor as to why conservatives hate liberals.
So which is it? Are Republicans lying about all the things they say or are they really just dumb? The more one listens to their arguments against health care, not one of which is backed up by a single fact, and if one looks at the results of having Republicans in power for the eight years of the Bush Administration, and what John Boehner thinks is in the constitution and John Ratzenberger thinks what inspired Woodstock, we hold these truths to be self-evident -- they are both dumb and lying.
Comments
your the one who's lying or dumb
Bob I have read the H.R.3200 Heath Care Bill not once, twice three times but more. And now there 900 more pages which I have had a chance to read. I am a 61 year old getting ready for retirement.Bob you need to incert a Tampon in your mouth and stop the bleeding or Kaopectate to stop the Diarea from your Mouth.Pull your head out of your Rear,then read the Bill. Your Dumb and Lying From an Independent Voter thats had it Stop the B.S.
One has to feel sorry for someone with such a lame job as writing inane attack pieces for a source as insipid as examiner. There are so many false claims and idiotic notions in the above piece it is pointless to attempt to counter them all.
You sound so ignorant, calling names yourself, and offering not a shred of true fact. It's obvious research is not your strong suit. Why don't you just shove your head back in the sand, and carry on believing what they feed you. You are no more than a poor tabloid sensationalist. You are proof that any puffed up individual that thinks a little too highly of their opinion can be a journalist.
Wow, the guy who wrote this is either a mental patient or a lying statist who hopes people won't do their own research.
Well I got news for this malcontent, I have read parts of the bill and it is socialism. The "individual purchase mandate" is absolutely unConstitutional as it requires every American citizen to buy some form of health insurance or be subject to a fine.
I think this leftist is both LYING and DUMB! haha
Well this kind of tells you what the Examiner.com is all about.
Reading the above comments leads one to the inescapable conclusion that republicans are too dumb to lie.
wow, the Examiner will let anyone write a column won't they? This guy (great picture by the way) knows nothing about the health care bill. This bill will lead to govt takeover (which Obama says he wants) by making private insurance more expensive causing employers to make employees switch to the government plan and eventually wiping out private insurance.
Second, the reason the CBO scored the bills to reduce the deficit is because the CBO only looked at the next ten years. The first five years, the government collects taxes and fees for health care but does not actually begin offering a plan for five years. So, if you collect money for 10 years but only pay out on health care for 5 - I would hope the government would come out ahead. What happens after that? I doubt the government will take it more than it pays out or they would have began only start collected in five years when a plan kicks in. Why no mention of that sir?
Look at your facts dude
You know what's really dumb? Republicans complaining about socialism, when we really have fascism. Thanks to Republican policies, the upper 1% have more than the bottom 95%. The middle class is becoming extinct and the U.S. is becoming a third world country.
Multinational corporations that don't produce goods in America control the K Street lobbyists who control Congress.
Thanks Neocon-Fascist Republicans for destroying America for profit. Isn't that treason?
Maybe Marc Rubin just wanted to tick you conservative guys off. Fines just make me angry, that's what I hate about government from the IRS to the dreaded DOT /DMV and police (tickets). If this health-care bill has provisions for fines in it that will affect me then I want no part of it. Oh, and the Republican party is worthless and so are the Democrats as well because they both are corrupt big-business puppets who don't serve the interests of the majority. I wouldn't be surprised if this health-care bill was some sort of distraction because congress is doing something else behind our backs and the mass media is helping them hide it.
Neocon-Fascist Republicans versus Socialist big government Democrats who do the same under-the-table favors for the rich and big-business. And, with their best friend the "Mass Media," we don't have the facts, just opinions and more opinions. I think it's Jefferson who said we need to be well informed to have a Democracy. The Democrats lost their seats in 1994 and the Republican majority ended up being just as corrupt and lost many seats to the Democrats in 2008. Political musical chairs. Both parties support the corrupt FED and our deficit is like some sort of hard to understand number that little kids would refer to as a "gillion". America is in trouble and now we're ALL dumb, simply because if you don't have time to be a Ralph Nader and read 900 pages of a bill then you're in the dark because with the media, it's getting harder to know what's really going on if you just want to read a news column for an accurate summary. The mass media need re-regulation, sorry if that's offensive.
Neocon-Fascist Republicans versus Socialist big government Democrats who do the same under-the-table favors for the rich and big-business. And, with their best friend the "Mass Media," we don't have the facts, just opinions and more opinions. I think it's Jefferson who said we need to be well informed to have a Democracy. The Democrats lost their seats in 1994 and the Republican majority ended up being just as corrupt and lost many seats to the Democrats in 2008. Political musical chairs. Both parties support the corrupt FED and our deficit is like some sort of hard to understand number that little kids would refer to as a "gillion". America is in trouble and now we're ALL dumb, simply because if you don't have time to be a Ralph Nader and read 900 pages of a bill then you're in the dark because with the media, it's getting harder to know what's really going on if you just want to read a news column for an accurate summary. The mass media need re-regulation, sorry if that's offensive.
"This bill is the greatest threat to freedom that I have seen in the nineteen years I have been here in Washington"
John Boehner
November 5, 2009
Oh, dear! Where was this knucklehead on September 11, 2001? Or when the Patriot Act was passed for that matter. Where was this fool in 2000 when the Supreme Court put a stop to the vote counting in the state of Florida and installed the Bush Mob in the White House? The greatest threat to freedom in nineteen years? Have another sip, Mr. Faux Tan Man.
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Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
All I hear from both sides is "they don't have the facts straight".
However – I don’t understand why people who oppose it can't point to places in the bill and say "look here on this page/paragraph, see the socialism/fascism?"
Simply making assertions and irrational predictions is getting old.
I think in the end it comes down to what it usually does – those that aren't having financial problems don't want anything to change. Jesus is crying because America's Christian Party is the selfish bunch.
Well, I've got to give you credit for one thing. Unlike most of your fellow mindless liberal writers, you've got at least several like minded idiots to rubber stamp your slobber--unless, of course, they are schill writers you made up. Anyway, good for you. It looks bad for you when ALL your bloggers gang up and rip you.
Of course, in YOUR world, the "facts" are what you want to believe.I can't help but think you're a very bad case of stupid calling stupid. Do you really think of your own drool as journalism?
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A song addressing all of the lies
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