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A new Rasmussen poll shows that the overwhelming majority of Americans (76%) support allowing religious symbols on public land. 83% think public schools should actively celebrate religious holidays.
This flies in the face of everything we are told by radical left-wing groups like the ACLU about where the American people stand on this issue. It also clarifies just how far out of the mainstream these liberal groups are...like the American Humanist Association, which recently launched its creepy 'No God? No Problem!' ad campaign nationwide for the holidays.
And, of course, this poll also shows that the American people openly defy the left's bigoted, Constitution-trampling war on Christianity.
Let's review:
"Separation of church and state" appears nowhere in the Constitution. Additionally, the Bill of Rights was drafted specifically to convince hesitant states that this new federal government would not trample their rights...including their religious rights. As with everything else in the Bill of Rights, the Establishment Clause of the 1st Amendment was a protection of the states vs. the federal government; it was a protection against a national religion.
If people find it inappropriate for an Alabama judge to acknowledge our Judeo-Christian heritage with a Ten Commandments display in his courthouse, then, according to the Constitution, that is a matter for the people of Alabama to decide, not some federal court. The federal government even being involved constitutes an outright reversal of what was intended.
Some of the ratifying states actually even had official state religions at the time of the founding. Think about that.
Incidentally, click here to see which businesses are resisting the left's war on Christmas, and which ones are caving in.
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Another liar for Jesus misrepresents the First Amendment. He should know that the establishment Clause goes well beyond prohibiting an national religion. Just read some of the writing of James Madison, the author of the 1st Amendment to learn that. I suggest The Detached Memoranda would be a good place to start.
Said liar for Jesus also forgot to mention that the 1st Amendment is binding on the states by way of the Equal protection clause and Due Process Clause in the 14th Amendment.
But liars for Jesus are not interested in the truth. They are only interested in using government to impose their religion onto others.
Strongly guarded as is the separation between religion and & Gov't in the Constitution of the United States the danger of encroachment by Ecclesiastical Bodies, may be illustrated by precedents already furnished in their short history (James Madison, Detached Memoranda, circa 1820).
Another liar for Jesus misrepresents the First Amendment. He should know that the establishment Clause goes well beyond prohibiting an national religion. Just read some of the writing of James Madison, the author of the 1st Amendment to learn that. I suggest The Detached Memoranda would be a good place to start.
Said liar for Jesus also forgot to mention that the 1st Amendment is binding on the states by way of the Equal protection clause and Due Process Clause in the 14th Amendment.
But liars for Jesus are not interested in the truth. They are only interested in using government to impose their religion onto others.
Strongly guarded as is the separation between religion and & Gov't in the Constitution of the United States the danger of encroachment by Ecclesiastical Bodies, may be illustrated by precedents already furnished in their short history (James Madison, Detached Memoranda, circa 1820).
Thank you for your observations, crazyfingers. You are, of course, correct.
Another document of interest is Virginia's religious freedom law, written by Jefferson and passed through the efforts of Madison. I doubt a better explanation of the reasons for church/state separation is available.
Crazy, I must strongly disagree with your notion of separation of church and state. There is no such thing in US law or the constitution. The only reference ever made to separation of church and state was by Jefferson in his letter to the Danbury Baptists in his efforts to put the baptists at ease by informing them there would never be a state supported church in the US as there was in England where the Church of England (Anglican) heavily influenced British law.
Besides, the far majority of the founding fathers stated that it is only the teachings of Jesus Christ that were worthy of government. I quote John Adams and John Hancock: "We Recognize No Sovereign but God, and no King but Jesus! [April 18, 1775]" John Adams: " The general principles upon which the Fathers achieved independence were the general principals of Christianity… I will avow that I believed and now believe that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of
Crazy, "But liars for Jesus are not interested in the truth. They are only interested in using government to impose their religion onto others."
The fact is the country was founded by Christians for Christians. While it is a fact that no one is forced to be a Christian(first amendment) Christians are not banned from politics... even though liars like you want to ban us.
More just for you Crazy,
As we do so, may we keep before us the wisdom of George Washington, who declared, "[I]t is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey His Will, to be grateful for His benefits, and humbly to implore His protection and favor. . . . it is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and the Bible."
I laugh at you members of the vast radical left wing conspiracy when you think you know more that those who were there over 200 years ago! The word pathological comes to mind...
Crazy, “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government - lest it come to dominate our lives and interests.”
Patrick Henry
Crazy, you want the constitution to restrain and dominate Christians.. to that I say, move to China your politics are a perfect match with the Christian murdering Chinese government.
At the time that that treaty with Tripoli was made, the Congress started its sessions with prayers, the Congress had Bibles distributed to the federal territories, and did other things that promoted and expressed the Christian religion. What the Congress did not do was to establish any Christian denomination as a favored denomination, which is what is meant by an establishment of religion.
Crazy... the Truth is a lie to you lying liberals who hate the truth!
My only question: The Establishment Clause reads, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion." How is an Alabama courthouse being decorated with acknowledgements of our Judeo-Christian roots Congress (or anyone) passing any kind of law?
Blatant butchery of the Constitution. Try again.
Also, such displays in no way impose anything on you. It is YOU who is trying to impose YOUR BIGOTRY.
Then why do both Houses of Congress employ their own Preacher to start each session with prayer?
Thomas Jefferson--the supposed poster child for the left's war on all things Christian--proposed for our original national symbol an image of Moses parting the Red Sea, with the inscription, "Defiance of Tyranny is Obedience to God."
Seriously Crazyfingers, tell us more about how Jefferson was opposed to all things religious in the public arena.
Total BS.
Robert, I just love your articles, and watching the liberals who try to attack you for what you say in comments. Great stuff-
This country was not founded by xtians for xtians (Jefferson's abbreviation in his correspondence). The leading lights of the Convention were deists. Nor was the purpose of the First Amendment to protect religion; rather, it was to protect the people from the union of church and state, which had caused so much war in Europe.
Spense, neither Hancock nor Adams was a member of the Convention. Also, the Washington quote is a fabrication. As for quoting Patrick Henry: are you aware that Henry opposed the Constitution?
Mr. Moon: Jefferson did nothing of the sort. This is another fabrication.
The only bigotry herein is that of those who believe that religious freedom means their religious freedom, and no one else's.
Darrell: President Madison, author of the First Amendment, opposed this practice of chaplains in Congress.
Regarding the Great Seal: The Moses image was proposed by Franklin, a deist. The motto, which Mr. Moon misquotes, was also proposed by him. Jefferson, also a deist, liked both image and motto, and proposed for the obverse an image of "Hengist and Horsa, the Saxon chiefs from whom we claim the honor of being descended, and whose political principles and form of government we have assumed."
first let me wish you a very merry Christmas.
it is becoming more and more obvious that we (Christians) cannot win on our own.we must act on what we believe and do what our Lord and Savior instructs us to do."Fight the good fight" the vitriol that comes from the left is their own incompetence and anger at who they have become.the saying" I would rather be hated for who I am rather than be loved for who I am NOT" is a great quote that I think describes the liberal left to a tee.
they will be victims of their won lies.
typo correction,,
they will be victims of their OWN lies.
Pinko, you live in denial of the truth.... you deny history, the signers and writers of the constitution who were there over 200 years ago, you weren't. The fact you think you can rewrite history is very telling. I would suggest you seek professional help immediately. Truth is hate to those who hate the truth!
Let me see... "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, OR PROHIBITING THE FREE EXERCISE THEREOF..." is somehow construed to mean that the government *can* PROHIBIT US FROM SAYING A PRAYER at school, at a ball game, at a session of Congress, etc., etc., ad nauseum...? There are treatments for some types of dyslexia but not, quite apparently, for the thought process type... Get a grip, people! Your rights end where my nose begins and VICE VERSA!!! I completely support your right to NOT SAY A PRAYER whenever you choose; Back the hell off of my right to SAY A PRAYER whenever I choose! 'nuff said... :-)
Spense, I can provide documentation of what I say. You cannot.
The ACLU supports the display of religious symbols on public property. What it opposes is government imposing a viewpoint, by providing a preferential platform for religion. The difference is obvious, which is why conservative opposed to 1st amendment freedoms continually lie about the issue.
Russel,
How does a military cross honoring veterans impose anything on anyone? It doesn't. It doesn't ask anyone to become or accept anything.
And nothing about the 1st Amendment protects intolerant liberal bigots from having to witness symbols of our heritage. What it does protect (go ahead, demand quotes from the Founders) is the STATES against everything the ACLU is doing.
Please stop accusing people of lying when YOU are the only one here doing it.
Russell: The ACLU doesn't support the display of religious symbols on public property; rather, it does not oppose said displays, provided they are not limited to a particular faith or favor a particular faith.
Mr. Moon: A military cross is a commendation, not a religious symbol. Even so, in substance I must agree with you regarding the display of the Christian cross in a memorial setting, provided that it is not exalted above all other religious symbols present, or is the only such symbol present.
On substance, the majority of lies contained in these entries--if not all of them, seem to be written by wingnuts. But it should be considered that ignorance and fear rather than overt malice is the cause of this. Reason is the only oracle given us by heaven, and we make scant use of it.
As for the First Amendment being the defense of the states against the ACLU, in the context you present it, well--that's just plain goofy.
Wow....why don't all you religious guys just go celebrate your beliefs alllllllll you want, just not with my taxes. I'm not trying to hurt your religion. I don't care about your religion at all. Just stop trying to force it on me....at school for instance. THAT is the protection the Supreme Court has provided. That YOU should not be able to proselytize Christian religious propaganda to my children.
The link to the poll isn't really there. I would really like to see this poll but I cannot find it.
Silver: I haven't found it either, but this would seem to be the best place to search: rasmussenreports.com
There was no such survey subsequent to Nov. 1. Perhaps Mr. Moon would be kind enough to provide an accurate link, or a posting of the survey itself?
That link is fixed.
Thank you. I missed it in my search.
Any opinions on Mr. Moon's interpretation of the poll, people?
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