"Gun control fanatics, frustrated in their attempts to impose severely restrictive regulations on the gun rights of law-abiding American citizens, apparently think that if they push severe restrictions on ammunition acquisition and possession, they'll come closer to their objective of restricting if not eliminating the individual Second Amendment civil right to keep and bear arms," says John M. Snyder, named Washington's senior gun rights activist.
With a liberal Democrat now sitting in the Oval Office and both houses of the US Congress boasting Democrat majorities, lawmakers in Washington, DC and around the country are displaying renewed interest in gun control legislation, according to sources within both law enforcement and gun owner rights communities.
"Ever since the so-called 'Beltway Sniper' case in 2001, there's been talk about not just gun registration, but ammo registration. This will make it mandatory for manufacturers of firearms ammunition to number every cartridge they make and to keep records of those cartridges," said Lt. Steven Rodgers, a cop in New Jersey.
"Can't control guns? Well, they'll control the ammunition," he added during an interview with NewswithViews.com.
While a federal law is being considered by proponents of such laws, gun owners in individual states are witnessing what's referred to as Ammunition Accountability Acts being pushed through they're state legislatures by impatient lawmakers.
Ammunition Accountability, a liberal gun control organization, has developed sample legislation to achieve its purposes and reports that versions of it have been introduced in the legislatures of
While state legislatures differ in the wording of their proposed laws, basically they all require that any and all ammunition be encoded by the manufacturer and they will maintain a mandatory data base of all ammunition sales.
"We of the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms oppose this backdoor approach to gun control," stated Snyder, an official with that gun rights group.
The sample legislation would stipulate that, “each year in the United States, more than 30 percent of all homicides that involve a gun go unsolved; handgun ammunition accounts for 80 percent of all ammunition sold in the United States; current technology for matching a bullet used in a crime to the gun that fired it has worked moderately well for years, but presupposes that the weapon was recovered by law enforcement;” and “bullet coding is a new and effective way for law enforcement to quickly identify persons of interest in gun crime investigations.”
"If this new proposed Ammo Accountability Act legislation is only another attempt to chip away at the 2nd Amendment, it is just plain wrong. Since the 2nd Amendment defines a citizens "right" to defend themselves, with a gun, it clearly does not address ammunition. What a novel way to "back door" the issue" said Josephine County, Oregon's Sheriff Gil Gilbertson.
"It is clearly no secret, many in our government would like to see America disarmed. Our government has authored books mapping out a strategy on how to do just that. Simply look back in history to see what happened after people lost their arms and ability to defend themselves," he told NewswithViews.com.
"Our government leaders slash funding in support of law enforcement throughout America, leaving our citizens more vulnerable - but on the other hand feel compelled to send hundreds of millions of dollars, each year, to enhance police in foreign Countries. Weaker law enforcement coupled with escalating crime is a receipt for disaster," said the career lawman.
Ammunition coding technology works by laser etching the back of each bullet with an alpha-numeric serial number. Then when a customer purchases a box of, for example, 9mm cartridges, the box of ammunition and the bullets’ coding numbers would be connected to the purchaser in a statewide or national database.
The code on the bullet can be read with a simple magnifying glass and then be run through a statewide or national database to determine who purchased the ammunition and where.
The rationale being used by proponents of such laws is that cartridges can be used to trace a gun owner who committed a crime such as murder or assault with a deadly weapon, according to the National Association for Gun Rights' Executive Director Dudley Brown.
< http://www.nationalgunrights.org/index.shtml >
But opponents of ammo registration laws counter that this will only increase the incidents of criminals collecting spent cartridges and depriving police of other evidence such as fingerprints on a cartridge left at the crime scene.
"NAGR's strategy is simple: make the enemies of our firearms freedoms pay for every inch. While many so-called "gun rights groups" work to curry favor with politicians and the media, NAGR is working aggressively to hold politicians accountable and to put a stop to gun control," said Brown.
At the federal level, H.R. 408 introduced by Rep. Robert Andrews (D-NJ) a new law would require firearms manufacturers to provide ballistics information on all new firearms to BATF, which would retain the information in a National Firearms Ballistics Database. Critics claim part of this bill will be used to mandate encoding ammunition, which is part and parcel of "ballistics" information.
"[Lawmakers] should ignore the media hype on the firearms issue and pay attention to what the public – their constituents – are saying on the matter,” gun rights expert John M. Snyder stated.
“According to an August poll conducted by Zogby International for Associated Television News, the American public rejects the notion that new gun control laws are needed by a two-to-one margin,” Snyder continued.
“Maybe the House of Representatives should have taken a reading of public opinion on this issue before rushing headlong without a roll call vote to pass a bill before the recess,” said Snyder, who is a firearms advisor for the National Association of Chiefs of Police. < http://www.expertclick.com/NewsReleaseWire/default.cfm?Action=ViewMyNews&NRWID=6042 >
Jim Kouri, CPP is currently fifth vice-president of the National Association of Chiefs of Police and he's a staff writer for the New Media Alliance (thenma.org). In addition, he's the new editor for the House Conservatives Fund's weblog. Kouri also serves as political advisor for Emmy and Golden Globe winning actor Michael Moriarty.
He's former chief at a New York City housing project in Washington Heights nicknamed "Crack City" by reporters covering the drug war in the 1980s. In addition, he served as director of public safety at a New Jersey university and director of security for several major organizations. He's also served on the National Drug Task Force and trained police and security officers throughout the country. Kouri writes for many police and security magazines including Chief of Police, Police Times, The Narc Officer and others. He's a news writer for TheConservativeVoice.Com and PHXnews.com. He's also a columnist for AmericanDaily.Com, MensNewsDaily.Com, MichNews.Com, and he's syndicated by AXcessNews.Com. He's appeared as on-air commentator for over 100 TV and radio news and talk shows including Oprah, McLaughlin Report, CNN Headline News, MTV, Fox News, etc. His book Assume The Position is available at Amazon.Com. Kouri's own website is located at http://jimkouri.us
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Never mind that the group Ammo Acountabilty was founded and paid for by the SAME GUY who invented the coding technology and is trying in vain to sell it. Since no one wanted it voluntarily he trying to get lawmakers to FORCE ammo mfgs to pay for his products. Talk about pandering to a special interest group!
Anyone think that this will work?
There are billions of of rounds of ammo in the United States that are not coded. Do you really think people are going to shoot this up or turn it in by a certain date? Only a complete and certifiable imbecile would believe this!
Funny how these bills are being introduced all over the country by Democrats. I wonder who they represent? In the interest of public safety we should also ban forks, look what Rosie's did to her.
The idea of coding ammo is STUPID, if you are claiming it to stop criminals. IT WILL ONLY STOP HONEST PEOPLE FROM HAVING AMMO.
WHY?
Criminals now have the ability to cook drugs like crank, crack, meth, etc. They can also manufacture pills, such a qualudes, date rape drugs, etc. They manufacture "saturday night specials", and even make fake ID's, and PRINT FAKE MONEY!
DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT THEY CANNOT MAKE BULLETS??? It is simple metalworking and a few ingrediants to make gun powder! NOT ROCKET SCIENCE!
What about handloading? These bills would make reloading illegal unless it is done with "government approved" bullets and brass. I say, to Hell with them and their so-called "ammunition accountability". How about we demand a "Public Servant Accountability to Their Sworn Oaths of Office" act, since our "public servants" apparently have forgotten that they were elected to serve, not dictate. Not being one to give in to paranoia, it seems at times that our elected officials keep shoveling this crap in an effort to see just what it will take to incite a revolution by the People. It is my position that that day is closer than most think.
One word people, "D E F I A N C E"
why dont these anti-gun politicains concentrate on keeping and putting in jail the offenders that use guns to kill and rob instead of putting up more hoops for the law abiding gun owner to jump through,criminals will get guns even if they ban guns and ammo,its called a black market and that market will grow with every road block they put up in a law abiding citizens way,some people refuse to admit reality!
This will be very expensive for the ammo manufacturers. They would be better off writing off several states and not send ammo there. They should start by not selling to state and municipal law enforcement.
This is a direct assault on individual freedom. It is no different than if they decided to limit the number of books you could read and that each book sold must be numbered and traced so that any one assimilating the ideas of any book would be able to be traced. Defending against this type of law should be considered by any individual who values individual and Constitutional rights as self defense. All means should be considered when defending against these enslavements including force of arms.
These criminal legislators need to be informed of the grave danger for society they are accepting if they pursue these laws.
They become as much the enemy of free people as Hitler, Mao, Stalin or Castro.
You want civil war then proceed.
"An unarmed people is an enslaved people".
"A disarmed people is a conquered people".
Self defense against enslavement is your Constitutional and God given right.
violence is the ultimate immorality and these people are attempting violence against The constitution.
I am prepared to defend my rights no matter what. Are you?
Death to Tyrants and Criminal Legislators.
This opinion is given under the protections of the 1st and 2nd Amendments as ratified Jan. 15, 1791.
Watch out for TN house bill 3245 and TN senate bill 3395 urge your congress man/woman to vote no on these bills or risk going home in the next election!!
From my cold dead hand!
I think that any politician who supports disarming the American public so that we are at the mercy of every lunatic inside and outside of this country should be labeled a "Domestic Terrorist" and tried for treason.
This is the most ridiculous law. The gazillions of spent casings at gun ranges are open season for anyone to pick up and put in their pockets and go home and reload. It would be a shame for some innocent person to be accused of a crime because of practicing at the range and having their casing end up at a crime scene. Black market ammo will become available to those who want to use it in crimes. The ability to really track ammo is an impossibility.
I totally agree with Glen Beck on Fox News when he said that we are seeing an emotional buildup of 1860 all over again. Common sense Americans (gun owners) are arming themselves as never before. With the liberals approach to a fight being that of yelling and obscene gestures, I doubt they will stand long against a face to face firefight. And a firefight is what it will be if they come to try and disarm all of my friends and me.
What we NEED is someone like Glen Beck, Sean Hannity or Rush to organize a million man march on DC. Pitchforks would be optional but you could always make one out of cardboard. And this would NOT be JUST for our 2nd Amendment rights. BOTH parties have been throwing us under the bus for years and I, for one, am really tired of it. Lets all write to Glen, Sean and Rush and maybe Laura and see if we can get them to back this. The masses will never listen to me.
Sorry about all the repeats. I don't know what happened. Every time I hit refresh it re-sent the post.
What hasn't been mentioned - by either side of the issue - is that the whole scheme is based on JUNK SCIENCE. The tests were performed using TMJ (total metal jacket) in .45 and 9mm; fired into shredded tires at SUB-sonic velocity. Its no wonder they could read their numbers. Try that with a .223 travelling at 3400fps.
Here's the link to their testing page: ammunitioncoding dot com
Idiots! This isn't about public safety, it is about concentration of power in the hands of government. Public safety is only the excuse they use.
This is just another people control policy put forth by the folks who want to ensure we all fit into their definition of correct. Reality is the people that made t his country great have NEVER fit the stereotype the is presented as correct today. The meak moron who is willing to simply survive is what these fools what us all to be! Well it took WWII to get us out of the Great Depression............
Obama and his welfare raised getto Gestappo "muffo" minions and the sleezbags they elect to office are a threat to our existance as a free nation and our very lives. The anti armed citizen scheams they are pushing, and may well get passed, can only facilitate the metastisis of murder and mayhem through the predominately white jurisdictions where productive things get done. They blame law abiding gun owners for the 3rd world conditions they create for themselves, while living off of our taxes both in and out of prison. Were the circumstances that catalized the American Revolution more onerous than these? How much more of this crap are we going to take?
"GUN CONTROL"...it has very little to do with "guns" and everything to do with "control"...
wow--can see what there doing.. want control--as long as we can defend ourselves we got upper hand.. look at europe they've got sticks and rocks..can your spell REVOLUTION
coding bullets wont catch most of the people who shoot somebody else...people who kill someone with a gun will most likely dispose of the gun after wiping their prints off, AND many of the murders commited are done with stolen guns and bullets..therefore making this new "safety" feature a load of BS
if the bullets are stolen there is no way of knowing who has them..proving that this idea is ridiculous
someone should get ahold of Ted Nugent and have him organize a million man march hes a NRA member and a true american write him a letter maybe he'd advertize for it or something
Gun control freaks! They abide by the liberties of the constitution when it comes to naked dancing and protecting the rights of news media to lie but not when it comes to our right to defend ourselves and engage in our hobbies.
Seems to me this proposal makes the supposion that those engaged in criminal activities would purchase registered ammunition. How absurd...one would think legislators would have more common sense, but then all you need do is pay attention to what they do on daily a basis.
I think the gun control traitor fanatics just could possibly do a self-fulfilling prophecy in their terror of guns. Cheap scum hysterical freaks who think they should be able to legislate how many times a grain of sand can bounce of a particular corner, in a hurricane.... megalomaniacal psychopathic traitor slime passing laws that cause deaths of innocent folks, without a single apology... EVIL they are. I suggest they worry about correctly running the government, buy a gun, and then they will see they need it less just for not trampling people's rights!!!
craig- excellent point! A million fixed-bayonet march....but unllike the traitor freaks- we would have about 20 million fixed bayonets... I would go!
If we hanged all traitors and common petty criminals, would there BE any democrats?
I'm thinking about everything this ridiculous administration is doing. Gun control is definitely on their agendas. How politicians graduate from college but remain so stupid is beyond me. I can't even think about this any more, as the word "Eurotrash" keeps going through my mind. Oh, look up the Fairness Doctrine while you're at it.
This isn't about gun control, it is about gun confiscation and population control.Because you graduate from college, does't mean you're intelligent. I've worked with people who have more common sense in thier little finger, than these anti-gun dumocrats have in thier entire body. People, it's all about control. look at Australia, Britain, pre war ww2. They all had "gun control and registration" Now look what happened pre ww2 and now with Britain and Australia, high crime flurishes.If we want the UN and new world order, george soros,rebecca peters. ted kennedy, by the way, who's car has killed more people than my guns,chucky schumer, dianne feinsteen,if I 60 votes, I'd have told them send them in Mr. and Mrs America, send'em all in,hilairy and bill, I could go on and on, but you get the point. If these people are looking out for OUR best interest, then pigs can fly. I'm so angry they can even think they can change OUR great constitution to their perverted, politically incorrect way of thinking. We had some much more intelligent people in the 1700's than the dumocrats we have now, because they lived under tyranny.If Ted Nugent wants to organize a march, count me in!! P.S. Bill didn't have to run for prsident this time as we now have change, yeah, right.
The "ammo sterilization bill" which proponents claim got introduced in WA state died in committe, without a vote. Doesn't the DNC understand that it was the "assault" weapons ban under Clinton that got us the last eight years of Republican rule? They need to accept that gun control is a non-starter. That Obama got 52% of the vote on an unpopular war, but had to skirt the gun issue in its entirety in order to win. So if they go for gun control they'll be the minority party again in '10, and it really IS that simple.
Clearly, Pres. Obama is a secret pro-gun activist! Witness the guns and supplies flying off the shelves in record numbers. Why, as a new reloader, I've had a heck of a time buying 7.62 Russian brass, powder, etc. and I'm still waiting for a 7.62 case guage. Perhaps, like Teddy Roosevelt, he really wants us to be a nation of riflemen (and women)! More seriously, note that this "ammo serialization" nonsense would put an end to the time-honored art of reloading/handloading. No doubt that's the idea....
We promote FREEDOM around the world only to enslave our own people. These ignorant politicians have armed guards around them all the time. screw u all.
I grew up thinking that America was the land of the Free and the Brave. Actually I sang it in school, right after I pledged allegience to our Great Flag. Afterwards we would sometimes pray and thank the Lord (you know, the one we once intrusted with this Nations fate) for the privelage to live in this great nation. But what happend? Goverment started to go over the publics' heads. Passing bills and legislation without the consent of popular vote, relying on congress to make the right choice. The President and his Congress are not there to tell us what to do, but to do what we tell them to do. Americans, IT IS TIME TO GROW SOME BALLS AGAIN AND TAKE A STAND FOR WHAT WE BELIVE IN. The new Government of the United States of America is taking everything that this nation was founded on and making it criminal. We only have the right to bear the arms the Goverment approves of. We are not allowed to speak of our ultimate founding father -God- in fear of "offending" someone. We no longer have freedom of speech, our press is corrupt and sells out to the highest bidder, only giving the public information it "needs to hear." And we're being taxed to death and suffering drastically increasing costs of living so that our government can bail out some corporate jerks somewhere and pay for thier Christmas bonuses. I, meanwhile, cant afford to put fresh food on my table and soon won't be able to afford the ammo to hunt a tasty venison steak to feed my family. Aren't high taxes what started the Revolutionary War, anyway? I guess it will just cost more to fight it this time. This is just another back door approach at stealing our second ammendment. The government can't take away our arms, but they can rob us of our power to use them. Owning a gun is not a crime, but owning the ammunition for it is? This government we have been dealing with in the last twenty years has been very good at creating criminals. But I see, the more criminals, the more revenue the States and Nation has to spend. I am tired of them taking and spending my hard earned green backs (embossed with "IN GOD WE TRUST") any way they deam worthy. I thought GM took more than they deserved last time I bought a truck (I didn't see that great expenditure have a public vote). Anyway, I could go on and on about the discrepencines I have with our Government. I still belive that this is a GREAT NATION and it is still worth fighting for. It is time for Americans to draw the line for the Government and show them that common people still run this Country. The power and money of this country come from US.
I grew up thinking that America was the land of the Free and the Brave. Actually I sang it in school, right after I pledged allegience to our Great Flag. Afterwards we would sometimes pray and thank the Lord (you know, the one we once intrusted with this Nations fate) for the privelage to live in this great nation. But what happend? Goverment started to go over the publics' heads. Passing bills and legislation without the consent of popular vote, relying on congress to make the right choice. The President and his Congress are not there to tell us what to do, but to do what we tell them to do. Americans, IT IS TIME TO GROW SOME BALLS AGAIN AND TAKE A STAND FOR WHAT WE BELIVE IN. The new Government of the United States of America is taking everything that this nation was founded on and making it criminal. We only have the right to bear the arms the Goverment approves of. We are not allowed to speak of our ultimate founding father -God- in fear of "offending" someone. We no longer have freedom of speech, our press is corrupt and sells out to the highest bidder, only giving the public information it "needs to hear." And we're being taxed to death and suffering drastically increasing costs of living so that our government can bail out some corporate jerks somewhere and pay for thier Christmas bonuses. I, meanwhile, cant afford to put fresh food on my table and soon won't be able to afford the ammo to hunt a tasty venison steak to feed my family. Aren't high taxes what started the Revolutionary War, anyway? I guess it will just cost more to fight it this time. This is just another back door approach at stealing our second ammendment. The government can't take away our arms, but they can rob us of our power to use them. Owning a gun is not a crime, but owning the ammunition for it is? This government we have been dealing with in the last twenty years has been very good at creating criminals. But I see, the more criminals, the more revenue the States and Nation has to spend. I am tired of them taking and spending my hard earned green backs (embossed with "IN GOD WE TRUST") any way they deam worthy. I thought GM took more than they deserved last time I bought a truck (I didn't see that great expenditure have a public vote). Anyway, I could go on and on about the discrepencines I have with our Government. I still belive that this is a GREAT NATION and it is still worth fighting for. It is time for Americans to draw the line for the Government and show them that common people still run this Country. The power and money of this country come from US.
I think them trying to controll the ammo is stupid. they need to realize that it just going to make this country worse. every one that owns a gun mostly hunts; to be able to have food on the table for there family. well if the government gets there way there is going to be very upset people in this country. we need to stand up and get our rights back and stop them from taking them away.
What happens when the law abiding has their registered ammo stolen unnoticed and a murder is commited with their registered ammo by another party. Stolen, registered and encoded ammo will most certainly be a sought after commodity by some. Who will do the time? What idiot would even think this would work? I think it may be time to check the definition of the word "infringed" and pass it to the boneheads pushing this nonsense. My guess is they won't care much.
It's one thing to say that new ammo must have the coding, but it's quite another thing to confiscate existing non-coded ammo without compensating the owner. The non-coded ammo was legal when it was originally purchased. This confiscation is essentially an illegal taking of private property by the government. Hopefully the communists who propose this illegal legislation understand that the legal owners of the non-coded ammo will give much of it back one round at a time...
Ok, so what happens when we take a fun filled day at the range just to find out all the spent shells are picked up by Joe the killer. Which he reloads and goes on a killing spree?
This is one of the most retardest things this Gov has tried to come up with.
Let them pass it and in a few years we vote some real Americans to office to fix their mess.
Take control of out country back by our votes.
And just to add. I never voted for these SOBs either.
all i see is that some people making money of the fear put out by all these tea leaf readers.
Our elected officals are not stupid, although this seems debatable at times, anyone who can read can easily recgonize the fact that the "police" do not prevent crime, a society who uses the right to bear arms does more for crime prevention than any "law" passed designed to do so. This is a small step in a bigger systematic plan by our government to remove the possible threat of the citizens of the United States to be able to say "enough is enough" to the tyranical wastefull road we are headed down. The Americans who just sit back and think "they can't get away with that" and do nothing are letting it happen before their eyes. WAKE UP AMERICA....IF YOU DON'T SPEAK UP ABOUT YOUR RIGHTS BEING TAKEN AWAY.... IT WON'T "JUST BE ALL RIGHT".
I am all set to reload for a long time to come. So much for new
laws.
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