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Entrance to Ft. Hood...about as close as the media can get.
Any topic that can be construed as a conspiracy theory is a writers' worst nightmare. That label has negative connotations and writing about anything that can be put in that category usually creates more problems than it is worth. It generates hate mail from both sides of the political spectrum and that is a headache that most writers would rather not deal with.
One of the ironies in dealing with the plethora of information that is available through print, television and electronic media is that it often does not add up and at times is contradictory. The more information there is, the more inconsistencies that can be found. That does not make any topic a conspiracy theory, it just makes it what it is...questionable. A good example is what allegedly happened at Ft. Hood last week.
For the record, any theories regarding what happened at Ft. Hood are up to readers to make. This commentary will not try to tell you what happened, but the information at hand does suggest what did not happen. Yet again it is the "official" story that should be questioned. You can come to your own conclusions. I must, however, start with a few conversations I have had with ex-military personnel since the incident.
After the horrible massacre at Ft. Hood, I spoke with a few people who served in the military. A retired army Capt. who served 7 years in the 173rd Airborne including time as a S-3 in a RSTA squadron said this: "There is no way a psychiatrist - basically an intellectual desk jockey - shot off hundreds of rounds with two pistols and hit about 40 people without being subdued by someone. Come on! He wasn't a trained assassin or a special ops commando shooting up a mall. He would have had to reload and that means putting one of the pistols down and reloading the other with seasoned combat vets in that deployment center. It only takes seconds to reload, but it only takes a second to subdue him."
A retired MP, Michael Martinez also said: "No way! That would be impossible. Even if he had two semi-auto pistols [according to early reports he used a 9mm and a .357 revolver to gun down over 40 people] he would still have had to stop to reload and someone would have jumped his ass. Most people on base aren't carrying [weapons], but MPs are and they would have been there in a heartbeat."
SFC Donald Buswell said, "I spent 10 years at Ft Hood. There is no way this 'official' story is legitimate. No way would a room full of combat vets allow this one shooter to get off over 100 rounds! And, it is not normal for the outside security guards to be there. They are at the MP station, and at the main gates. This means the room full of soldiers processing must have been pinned down; multiple shooters is the only plausible scenario. This sounds like Maj. Hasan has been used, and perhaps is a patsy."
Michael Gaddy, an army veteran of Vietnam, Beirut and Grenada writes: "The facts as presented by the Army and the media [about] the shooting at Fort Hood just don’t compute. People on the ground have told me cell phone towers were jammed to prevent unauthorized dissemination of information after the shooting."
A look at these articles in chronological order paints a very confusing picture. I am not even going to speculate on what really happened at Ft. Hood, but my bovine excrement meter is maxing out at the official story. I encourage you to read and come to your own conclusions.
Lori Price, writing for Citizens for Legitimate Government, did an excellent job of compiling articles from the media that came out in the early moments and the aftermath of the shootings. Here are some of her articles as well as some that I have found.
Nov. 5, 2009: Lt. Gen. Bob Cone, the commander of III Corps, said that at least one gunman opened fire at the base's Soldiers Readiness Processing Center where soldiers were receiving medical and dental exams prior to deployment. The gunman's fire was returned (Cone did not say by whom) and the gunman was killed. "The shooter was killed. He was a soldier. We since then have apprehended two additional soldiers who are suspects, and I would go into the point that there were eyewitness accounts that there may have been more than one shooter."
Nov. 5, 2009: CNN reports that a senior officer who was playing golf near Fort Hood, Texas, told CNN he witnessed the arrest of one of the two surviving suspects of the shooting at the Army installation. After being told by MPs to clear the area, he ducked into a nearby house for cover as 30 to 40 cars carrying more MPs approached. He said he saw a soldier in battle-dress uniform, his hands in the air. The MPs ordered him to lie on the ground and open his uniform, presumably to ensure he was not carrying explosives, the senior officer said. He said an MP told him that authorities considered the man to be a suspect in the shootings after having overheard the man say he was with the shooter. The man was surrounded for 25 to 30 minutes, until a convoy of vehicles arrived, led by a Ford Crown Victoria and carrying men in suits, and he was taken away, the senior officer said.
Nov. 5, 2009: In an interview with Fox News, a man claiming to be the suspect's cousin, Nader Hasan, said that Major Hasan considered an upcoming deployment to Iraq "his worst nightmare." Nader Hasan added that his cousin wasn't violent, telling Fox News: "He wasn't somebody who even enjoyed going to the firing range." It was unclear whether Hasan acted alone. Lt. Gen. Cone said three soldiers who'd been taken into custody as possible accomplices had been released.
Nov. 5, 2009: Federal law enforcement officials say the suspected Ft. Hood shooter had come to their attention at least six months ago because of internet postings that discussed suicide bombings and other threats. He is a graduate of Virginia Tech University, where he was a member of the ROTC and earned a bachelor's degree in biochemistry in 1997. He received his medical degree from the military's Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md., in 2001. At Walter Reed, he did his internship, residency and a fellowship.
Nov. 5, 2009: The New York Times reports: Clad in a military uniform and firing an automatic pistol and another weapon, Major Hasan, a balding, chubby-faced man with heavy eyebrows, sprayed bullets inside a crowded medical processing center for soldiers returning from or about to be sent overseas, military officials said. The victims, nearly all military personnel but including two civilians, were cut down in clusters, the officials said. Three other soldiers, their roles unclear, were taken into custody in connection with the rampage. The office of Representative John Carter, Republican of Texas, said they were later released, but a Fort Hood spokesman could not confirm that.
Nov. 5, 2009: The New York Times reports: Clad in a military uniform and firing an automatic pistol and another weapon, Major Hasan, a balding, chubby-faced man with heavy eyebrows, sprayed bullets inside a crowded medical processing center for soldiers returning from or about to be sent overseas, military officials said. The victims, nearly all military personnel but including two civilians, were cut down in clusters, the officials said. Three other soldiers, their roles unclear, were taken into custody in connection with the rampage. The office of Representative John Carter, Republican of Texas, said they were later released, but a Fort Hood spokesman could not confirm that.
Nov. 6, 2009: Army psychiatrist Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, about to be deployed to a combat zone overseas, shouted a religious slogan in Arabic before going on the rampage at the Central Texas base Thursday, the base commander said. Lt. Gen. Robert Cone said that witnesses heard Hasan exclaim "Allahu Akbar!" before opening fire. The phrase means "God is great!" in Arabic. Early Thursday, Hasan showed no signs of worry or stress when he stopped at 7-Eleven for his daily breakfast of hash browns, said Jeannie Strickland, the store's manager. “He came in (Thursday) morning just like normal,” she said.
Nov. 6, 2009: CNN, however, claims he was wearing religious clothing and supposedly has a video to prove it. Federal law enforcement officials then told the Associated Press that Hasan had come to their attention at least six months ago because of Internet postings that discussed suicide bombings and other threats. CNN also reports that Hasan used a FN 5.7-millimeter pistol, a semi-automatic with a high-velocity 20-round capacity (unlike a 9mm) purchased legally at Guns Galore, a Killeen gun shop and another gun, identified only as a type of revolver. The high casualty rate is attributed to the "more than 100 rounds" fired by the gunman and the relatively small size of the room. More than 100 rounds fired means Hasam would have had to reload at least five times in close quarters with combat veterans surrounding him.
Nov. 6, 2009: From the Guardian UK. Ford Hood's deputy base commander, Colonel John G Rossi, said about 500 soldiers were in the area when Hasan entered the facility wearing a military uniform. He shot some victims at close range and others were injured as the bullets ricocheted, Rossi said. Troops are not allowed to carry firearms on the base and armed military police quickly swarmed to the scene. The base went into lockdown for several hours amid fears other gunmen were involved.
Nov. 7, 2009: The LA Times reports, Hasan, who had prayed at his mosque that morning, allegedly mumbled something to himself -- it may have been a prayer -- then jumped up. Witnesses reported that he said: "Allahu akbar," Arabic for "God is great." Inside the Readiness Center, Pfc. Marquest Smith, 21, was in a cubicle, across the desk from an employee, finishing paperwork ahead of his deployment in January to Afghanistan. Smith dragged several victims outside and returned to help others. He kept hearing popping. Then a pause. Then whispers: "He's reloading!" Smith saw the gunman, whose back was to him. He ran outside. The gunman fired after him. It takes seconds to place a new magazine into a pistol's grip; the gunman reloaded more than once, investigators said, and moved around the crowded room in a half-moon pattern before going outside into a courtyard.
Nov. 7, 2009: AP report claims that at least six months ago, Hasan came to the attention of law enforcement officials because of Internet postings about suicide bombings and other threats, including posts that equated suicide bombers to soldiers who throw themselves on a grenade to save the lives of their comrades. They had not confirmed Hasan is the author of the posting, and a formal investigation had not been opened before the shooting, said law enforcement officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to discuss the case. Federal authorities seized Hasan's computer Friday during a search of his apartment in Killeen, Texas, said a U.S. military official who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation.
Confusing enough yet? Now let's simplify it:
Major Nidal Malik Hasan prayed at the same mosque as two of the September 11 terrorists, according to a report published in the Sunday Telegraph. According to ABC news, U.S. intelligence agencies were aware months ago that Hasan was attempting to make contact with an individual associated with al Qaeda, two American officials briefed on classified material in the case told ABC News.
Now there are a few problems. The first is that if Hasan was being watched for six months and intelligence agencies knew of his ties to a radical cleric, why didn't anyone do anything about him before he shot up an army base? Is domestic spying worthless? (rhetorical question). Secondly, a search of his computers by law enforcement agencies revealed no communications with any terrorist organizations, and it is safe bet that all of his cell phone records, electronic transactions and everything else about his life have been scrutinized by now. Yet nothing? And thirdly, he's still alive and not talking. Not again mentioning the supposed fact that one highly trained desk jockey managed to fire hundreds of rounds from a semi-auto pistol and a revolver, hitting over 40 people, some of them repeatedly, in a building full of combat-trained soldiers.
Sounds to me like the intell boys have a lot of explaining to do. My bovine excrement meter is off the chart... How about yours?
Update: 12 Nov 2009. The official victims count now stand at 13 dead and 29 wounded. Here's a link from SOTT.net with some video clips to corraborate some of the news stories referenced above.
Update: 13 Nov 2009. Yet more 'inaccuracies" come to light.
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I agree with you. As someone who has been on few military bases, I can't wrap my mind around how one person could shoot that many people on a base himself, let alone survive. According to some reports it was a civilian that stopped him, what?? I know that some bases use civilians to man their gates, but aren't there usually several MP's around also? The whole thing is weird.
Between my military experience and my experience working with journalists most of the last decade, I'd say that the confusion is nothing more than the difficulty in getting accurate information about a rapidly evolving event combined with a rush to get it on air/in print first by journalists who have littel or no experience with the military.
Point above: You link to a UK Telegraph story and say he had a 9mm and a .357 - but that very story points out he was using a FN Five-SeveN.
None of your "military experts" picked up on the fact he was firing a small (~31-grain) high-velocity .22-caliber full-metal-jacketed bullet subject to over-penetration.
I would expect that when the forensics are complete, we'll find that in several cases, a single bullet hit more than one victim. That, and 20-round magazines, means he didn't need to reload that often.
And the troops, especially those with combat experience, would naturally dive for cover, not try to take him down.
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... not try to take him down when they themselves were unarmed. (These were not trained Delta commandoes, either.)
SFC Buswell has obviously been retired a few years - most bases these days are using way more civilian police (real police - not just contract guards) because the actual military police/security forces are deployed so much. They patrol, respond to calls and handle most law enforcement duties on bases.
Cell phones were not 'jammed' - heck, they couldn't have even gotten equipment up and running to do that so quickly, even if they had it, which is highly unlikely.
Cell phone circuits were OVERLOADED - just like has happened in the past when major disasters occur.
I spent a significant part of my career thinking like a terrorist, working up possible scenarios - and this certainly fits with the picture of a lone nutcase (regardless of motivation) with no concern for his survival and a lot of ammo.
Jake, I've been retired since 2008, not too long ago, and yes, you are right about using many more contracted guards; nothing new to me. I never claimed to be a "military expert", only that my tenure in the Army gives me credibility; apparently the author(s) think so too. The ammo used is the kind that basically disintegrates upon hitting it's target. Perhaps the 'official story' is and will turn out to be legitimate, however, until then we can only speculate. I wonder why you take such an apologists point of view when the government needs no defense, they need to prove how it happened. It's up to us to demand truth, transparency and accountability from our leaders in this Republic.
Donald, I tend to subscribe to what has variously been called "Hanlon's Razor" or "Heinlein's Razor" - stupidity is almost always a more accurate answer than conspiracy.
From the basic ballistics of the 5.7x28mm, especially the solid jacket varients available for civilian purchase (to include military members not purchasing for an agency account), fragmentation would be highly unlikely, even hitting something like concrete.
They would, however, be extremely prone to over-penetration, creating through-and-through wounds and endangering anyone behind the initial target.
And it's not just contract guards - from what I saw, I suspect those were GS-employees - full-time, fully authorized Department of Defense Police.
The story that has come out by now makes sense - and I would never put much faith in initial news reports. If you think the 'fog of war' is confusing, you should hang out with some media types when something like this happens.
Jake,
Good point on one bullet being able to cause more than one casualty. I thought of this initially but had some doubt due to the velocity of a pistol round and disintegrating/mushrooming effect that may limit multiple casualties by one bullet. Where did you get the information as to what type of rounds were used?
I still think the story is fishy for many reasons, but have no idea as to what may have really happened if indeed there is another story not being told.
Bruce, various news reports are quoting officials as saying he used an FN Five-SeveN. It's an oddball pistol originally designed to use an armor-piercing round so cops and military could penetrate Kevlar vests.
But AP rounds can't be bought by civilians or military individuals; only agencies. There are only three 5.7x28mm cartridges that civilians can get for it - they are all high-velocity full-jacketed, .22-caliber and 28-32 grains in weight - fast, small and actually not very good as anti-personnel weapons because it tends to leave a small hole going in and coming out. (.45-cal is still preferred in counter-terrorism ops.)
WAAAAYYYY too many GI witnesses to do much of a cover-up; that really only works if only the guilty know what happened.
One thing PFC Jones is not reluctant to do is call 'bullshit' when he encounters it.
Jake, yeah, the ammo issue is interesting, and, Guns Galore and Action Guns in Killeen are big-time gun aficionados, getting that ammo I would not assume they could not/would not get it, but, selling it to a Muslim...don't know, I know some of those guys there, they are as Red Blooded Americans as they come, seeing a Arab dressed Muslim coming in to buy a gun, and that ammo, I HIGHLY doubt they would sell it to this guy.
The Cell Phone towers could have been taken down. You alluded that special equipment would have to be emplaced. I disagree, ever here of an old outdated system called 'Trailblazer', this, and newer systems can easily deny communications with the flick of a switch. I wonder if the 504th MI BDE at West Fort Hood was engaging in any 'tests' that day, or exercises that day whereas some of their equipment could have been turned on at certain times.
And another issue, just a hypothesis, but, to a good thinking man, a Intelligence Analyst as I used to be, and one who is familiar with wearing both the White, and Red Hats in gaming, this is not too far fetched of an idea especially considering the many false flag events against this country over the years of which this is definitely one of the newest ones. From a trusted colleague;
"I have come up with one possible scenario. It was suggested to me by the reported question by the recovering policewoman: "Did anyone die?" She should have had a really good answer to this question if she fired at the end of the carnage. So she apparently fired at the beginning and then lost consciousness. But how did Hasan keep on firing after being hit four times by her?. So here is one possible scenario. Hasan was warned that there could be trouble at the center, where he was going in preparation for deployment. He was advised to carry a gun to protect against anyone who might plan to shoot him or others at the center, including a terrorist disguised as a lady cop. The lady cop was given similar instructions. She was warned that there was a crazy Muslim in uniform who was planning to shoot the place up. She was pointed toward Hasan. He reacted and then they shot each other up...
...At that point the shooters designated to create the real carnage opened up and blasted away, using frangible bullets in 5.7 caliber, so that they could not be traced to any particular barrel. Other angles are possible. For instance, he may not have had the 5.7 in his possession at all, and the lady cop could have been shot by other shooters with that caliber. So Hasan may not have fired a single shot. Once again, my suspicions were aroused by her question: "Did anybody die?" That simply does not make sense if the incident occurred at the end of the massacre rather than the beginning. These are just discardable thoughts and the framework for the start of scenario building".
Let me throw in a bit more - if I am not mistaken, a 30-round extended mag is available for the Five-7, which would mean two or three mag changes, not five; at least one "eye-witness" report circulating on-line reports that both weapons were taken from Hasan with multiple witnesses to it. Soldiers are still human, and still react herdlike in case of unexpected attack: witness various bombings and attacks in the last 40 years in USAREUR and OCONUS. There are conflicting claims regarding the time that Hasan spent on the firing range - but in a room crowded like that place, all you have to do is keep the muzzle down and sweep: no marksmanship training really needed.
And one question - if this was all bogus and a setup - WHO gains?
@ Donald,
This A-Rab looks very Western when dressed in his Army Fatigues.Your theory that people would deny him ammunition based on his looks is off target.
Having said that I ask the simple question, "When has our Government told the truth?"
It's simple to see that this poor guy was nothing more than a victim himself, however, upon discovering his Arabic name, the military shills saw the light (so to speak) and the rest just fell into place real easily. The poor guy's only mistake was to be at the wrong place at the wrong time and the rest is history!
They'll also pull the plug on him before he can say what really happened (provided he even knows it).
If its the building I think it is, you are talking nothing but two waiting rooms that can be filled with people. Rows of seats and the back room which holds the most only has an exit to the front room (another waiting room with a clerk counter) So if he went into that room unloading there is NO escape. I guess 50+ would fit in there. After spaying the first two mags he could have almost hit everyone in there and scared the crap out of anyone else. He could have kind of jumped back and forth from those waiting rooms.
Let me throw in a bit more - if I am not mistaken, a 30-round extended mag is available for the Five-7, which would mean two or three mag changes, not five; at least one "eye-witness" report circulating on-line reports that both weapons were taken from Hasan with multiple witnesses to it. Soldiers are still human, and still react herdlike in case of unexpected attack: witness various bombings and attacks in the last 40 years in USAREUR and OCONUS. There are conflicting claims regarding the time that Hasan spent on the firing range - but in a room crowded like that place, all you have to do is keep the muzzle down and sweep: no marksmanship training really needed.
And one question - if this was all bogus and a setup - WHO gains?
Regarding the "too many witnesses for a cover up" theory. Ever hear of the USS Liberty?
Regarding "who gains?" There is an overt "conspiracy" in progress to disarm the American citizen and rescind the second amendment. Read "The shock Doctrine" by Naomi Klein for more details. To surmise, every "shock" event is used to further the "police state" agenda. This will be true in the present case regardless of who was behind it or what really happened.
That would make the beginnings of a good thriller plot, Donald, but there are holes big enough to drive a HEMTT through.
For a good synopsis on the dangers of relying on early reporting, see ProPublica's piece, 'Jumping the Gunman'
www.propublica.org/article/from-the-editors-desk-jumping-the-gunman-nidal-malik-hasan
It is a strange story with a lot of holes but in this kind of chaos I can see how everything got confused. What I don't understand is why with this guys background and contact with radical Muslims, he was in uniform! Total incompetence on the part of the military.
Bet the media will find some way to spin it to promote gun control. Opps, I thought right wing extremists and American born vets were the real threat. Yeah, right!
Nathan: those who gain are the neo-cons, the globalists, and the rest of their ilk. Just as they did from 9/11.
They need two things that they're going to get thanks to Hasan being a Muslim and their being able to pin this on him: to justify Iraq/Afghanistan and to invade Iran.
9/11 justified the already-in-motion plans to invade Afghanistan (see Unesco, joint US-UK maneuvers July-August '01, etc.).
The weapons of mass destruction we gave to Saddam, pretend infractions against the UN mandates, etc. all led us into Iraq2.
So, now we have Iraq's oil fields, we have Afghanistan and the pipeline from the Caspian to the Gulf, but we need security and more beachhead to the Gulf. Well, sandwiched between them is another obstinate Arab country called Iran.
Fort Hood is a nice big table leg to hold up one end of the whole "hate on the Muslims" tirade that's been focused more and more towards Iran.
"I wonder why you take such an apologists point of view when the government needs no defense"
Probably because Jake is paid to do so. I've been on internet BBS and political forums since 1995 and have seen hundreds of posters like Jake who defend the Gov/media line for hours at a time when most of the rest of us are at work.
Jake is just doing his job, trolling internet sites to spout his "expert" opinion, all based on "facts" which are never sourced.
Note how he has a pat answer about the reloads, claiming that the rounds used by the killer would perform the same as an FMJ or AP round from a .223 or a 7.62 rifle. How does Jake know what type of rounds were used or even what pistols the shooter used? He wouldn't, unless he's being fed info from the sources which will end up issuing the official version.
Don't waste time with professinal RF'ers like "Jake". He has all the time he needs to run his game here. The rest of us have to go to work.
I dont know if this has been mentioned, but it's worth mentioning;
After the incident, reporters swarmed to the base, and were refused entry to the base due to it being locked down (a standard operating procedure with events of this type).
The reporters were setting up 'camp' just outside the main entrance to the base. The CNN website had a video link to an announcement that was to be made by an Army official, so I clicked it.
Though the announcement was delayed for over an hour, the live video feed from that location was still available to the public.
During the entire time that link was up, the public was able to watch reporters and cameramen setting up their gear, placing microphones, doing individual live interviews for their networks, and - this is the part that is relevant - they were all making and getting cell phone calls.
So, the claims that cell towers were jammed in the area is incorrect. If cells had been jammed, there would not have been dozens of people usi
One shooter is a "lone nut".
Two or more is a conspiracy.
Its easier to dismiss a lone nut as a single occurance.
A conspiracy could have many members - the thought of that would panic the public - or at least the public who would line up like sheep and let the bad man shoot them in the head.
No one can be sure exactly what happened at Ft. Hood unless you were there and even if you were there, military personnel can be ordered not to talk about it and face prosecution if they do. The corporate media in this country is nothing but a propaganda outlet for the powers that be, they only know what the military and government tells them and they dutifully report whatever they are told. I don't believe anything I hear anymore. Not after being lied to about WMDs in Iraq, not after being lied to about the Jessica Lynch and Pat Tillman fairy tales, not after being lied to about the Gulf of Tonkin incident, or the USS Liberty and only God knows what else Americans have been lied to about. Anyone who believes anything the government, military or media says at this point is a naive fool. If they've lied even once that proves they can and will lie again. We won't know what really happened at Ft. Hood for a long time, but I hope some day the truth will come out.
I would be the last person to rely on deductive reasoning to analyze a crime, but I believe the most implausible part of the official story is that someone like Major Hasan would ever do what he is accused of doing. From all indications, he is a level-headed professional man who, like so many of us, opposed our wars in the Middle East. He was in no way off his rocker like Seng Hui Cho at Virginia Tech. Though he made have heard a surfeit of horror stories from his patients at Walter Reed, PTSD is not is not contagious or transferable. Though the American public may have been propagandized to believe that devout Muslims are just crazy, it is simply not true. Maj. Hasan would have had to have been crazy to have done what he is accused of, and that is clearly not the case. The actions of which he is accused could only discredit Islam and benefit its enemies. Why would he want to do that?
"And one question - if this was all bogus and a setup - WHO gains?"
The same people who just love these wars, Wall Street for the BIG $$$ they're making, Israel, because we're fighting their 'existential' enemies and the Pentagon, since they get money and more money for toys and promotions.
Why did they LIE to us for over FOUR hours that the shooter was dead?
And who is the one they identified as being the shooter(s) and what changed that scenario, finding a wounded Muslim? Remember, this war is supposed to last for 70 years, gotta keep that hate level on boil!
They lied to us about the 'rescue' of Private Lynch.
They lied to us about Saddam's connection to 9/11 so we'd invade.
They lied to us about the murder of former NFL star turned Army Ranger Pat Tillman.
They lied about Saddam having 'nukes.'
Obama has set a new record for breaking campaign promises and LYING. He hasn't closed down Gitmo; he hasn't brought the troops home, he's shipping them to Afghanista
The trend has been, at least since `93, that no self respecting terrorist can make the claim "he hates us for our freedom fries", without proper mentoring and lavish funding for our very famous FBI! Recall a few weeks back as our "never met a bribe I couldn't take" child lovers in congress were recycling the bottomless pit of police state funding, our very famous "Patriot Act". Remember all those allowed stagings of "almost terror" acts? For instance the one where a Jordanian Pizza Hut green cardee drove a pickup filled with wishful thoughts onto a Dallas building plaza that didn't go boom because, thankfully, his FBI handlers filled the bed with duds? Or how about the Sears Tower crew in Florida, now resting in a HLS funded private prison thanks to the deft work of an FBI organizer. Every Islamic green card holder in the US is a paid informant or provocateur for the FBI. The ones that refused to play were sent away!
Perhaps we should train NAVY SEALS to be military psychiatrists?
The use of an FN Five-seveN semiautomatic pistol is solidly confirmed, together with much noise about the "cop killer" nature of its cartridges (because the 40-grain Hornady V-Max SS197SR Spitzer bullets - e.g., like those of the .30-06 - most likely used tend to tumble on hitting flesh, the 5.7mm round is supposed to be particularly "evil") and the fact that the low recoil the Five-Seven was designed to achieve supposedly enabled the shooter to hit many more people than if he'd been firing, say, a Glock 22 (.40 caliber, 15 rounds per mag).
Note that Nidal Hasan had been granted a Virginia concealed carry permit in 1996, and must be considered experienced with pistols.
The opinions of some firearms-knowledgeable bloggers (how many of the MSM root-weevils are so qualified?) offer a reasoned speculation that if Maj. Hasan had purchased a higher-caliber large-magazine-capacity firearm than the Five-seveN, more of his victims would've wound up dead instead of wounded-but-alive.
Dear Sky @ November 13, 7:40 AM,
Network news "cell" phones do not link through cell phone towers. They link through transmitters in the camera truck - the same transmitters that link the video images to the news room.
14 November, woke up to discover that the blonde mother-of-one MP is no longer the heroine of this news event and that Maj. Hasan is no longer dead, or even dying.
As soon as I saw her, I knew she'd be sorry to have played the game, but I thought it would take longer for her to drop out of sight.
Everyone here is looking for an explanatory theory which unifies the event by linking the highlights of the conflicting stories and places it in context.
How about this: In the counter-universe of Washington, nothing can go wrong. Outside the Washington Counter-Universe, the world is affected by consequences and everything always goes wrong.If it were a mutiny, there would be conflicting cover stories and they would all lead away from the truth. Washington's "liars" are seen merely gnawing the bones they're thrown to keep them out of the action.
Chaos is the cover story and the metaphor. This is the message.
I have enjoyed reading these comments as well as this article. My husband and I both thought that the story didn't add up. Esp. the fact that he was involved with radical so called Muslims. We know that every Muslim in America is monitored. So, the news media was lying about that. It is even hard for a muslim to board a plane in peace, I know because I am muslim, and travel a lot! I do not have a criminal record, and have never been in any trouble. I can tell whenever the medial hypes things up. Some people want to keep the hate alive, seriously! I hope the truth will come out soon though.
Wow, Edd - did you even bother to check the posting times before tossing our your BS accusations?
Considering the way I left uniformed service in 2002 - in a rather spectacular objection to starting a war in Iraq - there are a number of folks who would find your claim I'm a government plant to be hilarious.
As for the rounds used, just take two minutes to do a little research: IF as reported, he used a Five-seveN, then his choice of ammo was severely limited.
And Sylvia, if you truly believe "every Muslim in America is monitored" I'd love for you to explain where the government gets the people and resources to do that. Even if every federal agency quit everything else they do, they wouldn't have enough people to do that.
With support of wars in Iraq and Afghanistan at its low and the public asking questions about escalation in Pakistan, a diversion was needed. Nero burned Rome and blamed the chrsitians. A classical Hegelian Dialect.....
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywgUCdefSW8
Watch the above video. . . I wonder if this poor guy is going to get a Judge with the same political agenda?
Don't know if it was mentioned, but the good Major had 8 or 9 years as an enlisted man. I don't know what his job position (MOS)
but serving that length of time would, at very least, give him a familiarity with weapons. It was told by eye witnesses that he fired not into the crowd, but selected his targets very carefully and fired effectively. 100 rounds and 43 (a platoon) is a pretty fair rounds to wounds ratio for anyone.
He was probably trained in some manner by his gihadist brothers whom he "prayed" with in Virginia.
As far as the female Sgt security guard, she was hit three times, and even if she didn't down the guy, she has earned her cudos for the courage she showed. There's not many folks can do that and it takes a large set of cajones..... it WAS a terrorist act and the Chief of Staff of the US Army (Casey) should resign after his comment about diversity...inappropriate to say the least.
By the way, the FiveSeven (5.7mm) is a .224 cal.... the only rounds available in the US is NOT the armor piercing (all "pointed" rounds will penetrate everything but the level 4 protection)...low recoil up to 30 rounds in a mag.
And by the way, the Female Security Guard (not military police) was wounded seriously in both hips and right wrist...She is still in hospital, if that makes you guys happy...she did't "drop" from sight.
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