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IIlegal aliens hold a surprising number of US jobs.
This is Part III of a four-part series on the victims of illegal immigration.
San Diego, CA ---In Parts I & II of this series we have established that crossing our borders illegally, is in fact a crime according to US Code Title 8 Section 1325. Additionally, I addressed the issues of illegal immigration crime and its impact on the community, including how immigrant on immigrant crime is violent and often unreported.
How does this crime of crossing our borders illegally affect the economy, the American worker and the taxpayer during good times and bad? Well, during good times the impact is still there, we just do not notice it as much, which is precisely how, given the economic boom over the last seven years or so, the impact has gone somewhat unnoticed and has spiraled out of control. For verification one only need to look at the fiscal condition of California.
As the economy began to seriously falter in 2008, warning bells went off and the impact on the American worker became more and more apparent. In employment for example the competition for jobs across all industries and career fields increased as the number of available jobs declined markedly and the number of layoffs soared.
According to the Pew Hispanic Center there are estimated to be 11.9 million illegal aliens in the United States, 76% of whom are Hispanic and 59% of those are Mexican. Asian illegal immigrants total 11% and those from the Middle East are less than 2%. Central and South America send us the remainder. In 2008 Pew estimated that approximately 8.3% of the workforce on average are Illegal Aliens with California, Arizona and Nevada topping 10% each.
As an occupation, farming leads the pack with 25% of all farm workers illegally in the United States. This however is misleading because as a percentage of the overall illegal population and not just the percentage of farm workers, only about 4% of the total are engaged in farming or agriculture. Ninety–six percent of those working are employed elsewhere. In the construction industry nearly 17.3% are illegal (up from 10.2% in 2003). Building, grounds keeping and maintenance jobs are nearly 1 in 5 held by illegal aliens. Production jobs are 10% and persons illegally in this country even hold 10% of the managerial and technical jobs. The latter, being mostly as a result of overstayed visas and not border fence jumpers.
So much for the argument that illegal aliens are only “doing the jobs Americans won’t do. Fact is in many cases they are “doing the jobs Americans used to do.” US unemployment in June 2009 was roughly 14.7 million people. If the Pew numbers are remotely accurate it would mean a large number of illegal aliens (nearly impossible to determine exactly) are holding jobs in construction, hospitality, production and even managerial roles that could be employing Americans. This is not a new phenomenon. The GAO or Government Accountability Office wrote a report during a previous period of high unemployment where we had 6 million illegal aliens in this country, many of which were presumably working, while 7.8 million Americans were unemployed. The year was 1977.
What about impact on wages? Ah yes, wages have been severely depressed by illegal workers who are willing to do the jobs for considerably less money. Take for example the case of James D, a construction and heavy equipment operator in the Sacramento area, which for 30 years earned as much as $30 per hour in his trade. Today he is lucky to get $18 per hour ($37,000 per year) and even that is more than what illegal workers are paid in the construction industry. He must travel as far away as Indio, CA to get the work (about 500 miles). Builders will hire these illegal workers through temp agencies or simply pick them up on the street corner saving the workmen’s comp costs and temp firm overrides as well. The taxpayer picks up the tab for those workers hurt on the job. As noted, employment for illegal construction workers has nearly doubled since 2003. Where did those jobs come from? That would be, in part, American workers who were displaced and couldn’t or wouldn’t work for the lower wages.
How do illegal aliens get these jobs? The term undocumented immigrants couldn’t be more misapplied. According to the Center for Immigration Studies, illegal aliens in this country are well documented…with your identities. They can gain employment in the US illegally one of at least four different ways. They can go to work for a company that fudges the paperwork (if there is any) or pays them off the books. They can steal your identity and use your social security number to gain employment. The E-Verify program goes a long way to stopping this sort of fraud right in its tracks but only a small but growing number of employers use it. The illegal worker can apply for a TIN or Tax Identification number for Foreign Workers but few reportedly do that as they are afraid the IRS will turn over their info to Immigrations and Customs Enforcement or ICE. Have no fear; the IRS doesn’t care where it gets tax money from as long as it gets it. They don’t have a mechanism for reporting illegal workers nor it seems do they have a way of stopping fraudulent Earned Income Tax Credit claims frequently used by illegal aliens to get refunds. In Tax year 2007, per a report by CNS News, the IRS gave out $12.1 billion in fraudulent claims.
In an April 2008 USA Today article the writer presents a case that illegal workers pay their way in taxes and social security but even he must concede:
“The {Social Security Administration} agency estimates that for 2005, the last year for which figures are available, about $9 billion in taxes was paid on about $75 billion in wages from people who filed W2 forms with incorrect or mismatched data, which would include illegal immigrants who drew paychecks under fake names and Social Security numbers.”
He further states that while Social Security taxes were paid, the total amounts to about $9 billion or $1.5% of all taxes paid into SSI that year and that the illegal alien receives no benefit from these funds. Really? Don’t social security receipts go into the General Fund? The same repository that pays out all other government benefits?
It is estimated that benefits, in the form of social services, education, medical and Aid To Families with Dependent Children (AFDC) amounts to between $60 billion and $100 billion annually. Not all of this is paid by the Feds however. Here in California the bill is roughly $10 billion though the Governor, seeking to allay our fears, stated recently the cost is ONLY $2-$4 billion each year. Whew…for a second there I was really scared.
According to Taxpayer Revolution, 84 hospitals, 65 emergency rooms and more than 70 acute care hospitals have closed in California in the last 10 years. There was $8.6 billion in unreimbursed emergency care costs in 2007 alone. Then there are the hidden costs. How much does AFDC send to Mexico each month to mothers of anchor babies with US citizenship? Millions? Then you have the US Congress moving a health plan out of committee yesterday that has of all things, free healthcare for illegal aliens. Oh it does not actually state, “Illegal Aliens get free healthcare,” it just very quietly omits the fact that you are not required to prove citizenship to get the government benefit. Do they think we are idiots? Event though Congress doesn’t actually read the bills they sign, WE DO.
Beam me up Scotty. This can’t be happening.
Back in CA, in a state with a $28 billion annual deficit it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see where savings could be made. Government here though would rather close parks, furlough or fire state workers, cut education, health, police and fire workers than touch that political third rail. Most will tell you their hands are tied. State law mandates these non-citizens receive benefits. Last I checked they write the State laws and CA is alone in the level of benefits it provides to non-citizens. Big surprise that most illegal aliens choose to live here, with CA illegal population being double that of the #2 State Texas at 2,209,000.
It would be unfair to place all of our economic woes at the doorsteps of illegal aliens but a reasonable person has to look at these numbers and wonder just what would our state and national economy look like if there weren’t millions of well documented illegal aliens in this country driving down wages, taking jobs from Americans and/or living off the public dole. Some do pay income taxes, albeit with your SSN and all pay sales, gas and other state taxes but then again they do place a burden on the infrastructure where much of those dollars go. There is some public benefit and some illegals are good hard working people that do pay taxes. Unfortunately the ranks of these individuals are painfully thin and sadly every one of them committed a crime(s) to get where they are. Does their contribution outweigh the expense and the crime(s)? Is the contribution somehow better than native-born Americans who don’t take government benefits and have not committed any crimes? Well if you ask the millions of unemployed or underemployed Americans who have lost their jobs to illegal workers I suspect you would get a variety of answers and few of them would side with the well-documented illegal worker.
California is different; there is no doubt about it. There are many lessons to be learned here but no one it seems, especially State politicians, are paying attention in class. They are goofing off in the back with their buddies while the State goes up in flames. Their answer is more taxes and more burdens on the citizen. How much more can we take? It is already the most heavily taxed amongst all the other fifty in the Republic and maybe that has a bearing on the discussion. Then again, we have more mouths to feed, even if they are physically located in Mexico.
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From the 1940s to the 1980s a young kid could mow lawns, sweep driveways. A high school student could work summers in construction, flip burgers, baby sit. A college student could defray costs by doing all these jobs and more part time. A young adult could get married, buy a home, raise kids, send them to school with a solid middle class construction job. No more! Lawbreaking illegal aliens have sucked up these jobs and driven wages into the ground. No amnesty ever again!
Ford Foundation, as well as all the other foundations supporting La Raza have so much money invested in forcing the illegal aliens down our throat, you do wonder if things will ever get back to normal. Give me a shot at the Presidency, and Foundations supporting illegal aliens would be history!
Estoban,?? That is not an American name right??
Look on your Family tree where you come from and than think about what you saying.
America is build from Imigrants, all the "real" american are living in reservates. So please, think about this what you saying.!!!
The line about America being a land of immigrants is old and misleading. This nation has been on a secure footing population-wise since it's inception. The U.S., while at one time having a generous immigration policy, has never had open borders as an attempt to entice workers. The simple fact is that the U.S. simply does not need such a generous immigration policy any longer. No other nation in the world catches as much grief about their population's ethnic diversity as the U.S. It's time Americans take control of this issue without ANY outside help.
Estoban you correct, I worked from the time I was 12 thru college at various "entry level" jobs that are no longer available to Teenagers who are United States Citizens; mowed lawns (many of these jobs now given to ILLEGALS by ILLEGAL EMPLOYERS), cleared land for housing (again jobs now given to ILLEGALS by ILLEGAL EMPLOYERS), dug ditches and laid pipe for city water lines (yet again jobs now given to ILLEGALS by ILLEGAL EMPLOYERS), worked turnarounds at refineries during the summers (as you may have guest by now, jobs now given to ILLEGALS by ILLEGAL EMPLOYERS), stocked groceries overnight (you know, again jobs now given to ILLEGALS by ILLEGAL EMPLOYERS), and etc. Maybe our Government should subsidize U.S. Teenagers and U.S. Citizens for the lost opportunity to earn money for education or daily living that the ILLEGALS and their ILLEGAL EMPLOYEES have stolen.
Of course the more the Elitist Special Interest Groups financially benefit from the ILLEGALS the more money that is poured into the coffers of the Elitist Politicians to support the ILLEGALS but this is really not new, the Chamber of Commerce has always been working in support of the ILLEGALS. The ILLEGALS are comfortable with pushing ahead of everyone else including U.S. Citizens who do not receive the same preferential treatment in all areas. U.S. Citizens have already lost "entry level" jobs to the ILLEGALS and the opportunity that is presented to build on the foundation of the "entry level" jobs that our Elitist Politicians and their Elitist Contributors have granted to the ILLEGALS.
Guest, think about what you are saying. You are right, America was built on immigrants, NOT ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. Su Comprende?
The government now admits that 9 million illegal aliens are committing identity fraud, with stolen SSNs, to work at jobs requiring an I-9, W-4, etc. They purchase fraudulent documents such as counterfeit Social Security cards, forged drivers licenses, fake “green cards,” and phony birth certificates.
These innocent victims of identity theft suffer very real and very serious consequences in their lives.
Thank You Carl Braun! A well written piece! and as honest as ive found yet, I just CANNOT believe that our Non-representing Representatives get off their asses and DO SOMTHING! they play the fiddle while Rome burns? what would happen if twenty million illegals left our country?
www.redcounty.com/what-if-20-million-unlawful-immigrants-vacated-america#comment-12435
American citizens killed by illegal aliens!
www.ojjpac.org/memorial.asp
www.immigrationshumancost.org/
Mexico's second highest income is from illegals sending money home! google it! do you understand how really HUGE that is?? how many of them MUST be here illegally to make that happen?? 12 million? HA! more like 40 million?? we are being invaded, without one shot being fired! does anybody have a CLUE?? whos job it is to protect and defend the United States?? to ABIDE by the CONSTITUTION???? what does it mean? to break the law? why all the infighting? they broke the LAW! period! google "operation w*tback" Eisenhower
they also say they do jobs american kids will not? BS! I grew up digging graves and cutting firewood! and i say to you today, hard work would be good four our kids characters! FOLKS! we need to get MAD AS HELL! WAKE UP! do we have to make CITIZEN ARRESTS?? why not?? the politicians will not enforce our laws! time to STAND UP! if not for yourselves, then for your kids!
Guest, as a courtesy I tell you that the screen name 'Estoban' is one I made up years ago playing RPGs. My ancestors came on the Mayflower. I married a Cherokee woman, have grandchildren that are half Blackfoot, nieces that are half Latino, nieces and nephews that are half black and all are American citizens. I accept legal immigrants as fellow Americans, but will never accept lawbreaking illegal aliens as anything but disrespectful invaders, whether they are black, white, red, brown or yellow! They need to be deported until they can acquire the integrity to apply lawfully as legal immigrants. No more, no less!
You must decide the future of future generations, because just my ranting will have very little influence on the power brokers in Washington. Call your Senator or Congressman at 202-224-3121 and impress on the people you vote into office that you want an alternative to the predatory health care insurers. You want the right to choose? That includes the Universal government run system that certainly isn’t any worse than the profiteering insurers. That you also want your political representative to sever any path to citizenship, but to enforce a firm, permanent--ALL ENCOMPASSING-- E-Verify, police 287(g) enforcement and not to rescind the no-match letter or weaken ICE raids. Tell them you are a voter and convey to them, as you voted them into office as you can remove them, just as easy? Read the naked true facts by GOOGLING--NUMBERSUSA
It would be untrue to accuse just the Democrats for this, because all politicians have been involved in distracting–THE PEOPLE–from the real issues that cost them billions of dollars. The population falls for these distractions every time, so they can hit you with either higher taxes or give huge tax reimbursements to their corporate comrades. Illegal immigration is a major depletion of every tax treasury, throughout this land. Giving any kind of AMNESTY will enhance the predictable–OVERPOPULATION. The complete neglect of our interstate highway system, tunnels and bridges is just the slow eroding of our infrastructure. In the near future the population growth will explode, to over another hundred million people. IT would be an unmentionable catastrophe to open the doors wide at the border, giving millions of illegal immigrant’s expressway to a path to citizenship. Already our Senate has voted to give illegal immigrants and families a right to access the new health care provisions--WHIC
The need to erase the blemish of illegal immigration prompted Congress to enact the Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA) of 1986. The IRCA toughened criminal sanctions for employers who hired illegal aliens, denied illegal aliens federally funded welfare benefits, and legitimized some aliens through an amnesty program–EXCEPT THESE LAWS NEVER WERE ENFORCED? Neither the federal government, nor state county have denied most benefits to illegal immigrants. That is why one state–California–is involved in a monstrous budget deficit? California--THE SANCTUARY STATE-- has been overrun with millions of illegal entrants, as with Arizona and other border states. An the ingredients of federal law has been a breeding ground for entitlements that have been gravely compromised by pandering to minority caucuses REMEMBER THERE ARE MANY SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS, WHO WANT ABSOLUTELY NO RESTRICTIONS ON HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN BE ALLOWED INTO THE US?.
We have reaped what we have sown. Now the USA is a third world country with third world education and quality of life. If I were young I would leave for Aus. or N.Zealand.
America, put a fork in it, it's all over except for the fat senorita singing...
Thanks Estoban for reminding Americans of what it was once like. Lawabiding, proud, integrity, kids working themselves through college, little to no welfare. THANKS FOR THE TRUTH.
Guest, you are preaching ignorance. The real Americans may be on reservations, but they also have billion dollar casinos, they have been and continue to be compensated by "Americans", and you aren't one, obviously. What does Mexico do for its Indians? I'll tell you. They don't even make it possible for them to get water without walking two miles. They do NOTHING!! FOR THEM. Don't you dare criticize the Americans that built this nation with their sweat and blood. This nation, NOW, the one with the roads and everything else. YOU BETTER THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING YOU FLAKE.
Problem about economy in US it's not to blame to illegal aliens, the real problem it's that we let the jobs go out of the country, read any label of any product, it says MADE IN CHINA or other country, even in the cars, the big 3 are the worse three even Korean cars are selling better than the big 3. Are all this problems to blame to illegals?? I don't think so.
We are just looking for a scapegoat and what better to blame to people who don't have rights and don't vote.
If we wanna improve as nation we have to commit with quality, I remember the old times when Made In USA was the best, now days no body wants made in USA.
We need to bring back the jobs from overseas to our country, and stop blaming to illegals, even with no illegals in the country we would have the same economy problems.
People don't be ignorants like the author, open your eyes for what's the REAL problem.
Maybe the author feels happier just blaming to illegals but he doesn't realize that does not the REAL issue.
No Modern Man, with no illegals in the country we would have less problems, than now. Get this through your FAT HEAD, these people are hear in violation of United States Immigration Law. Can you read this? Title8 Section 1325,U.S. Immigration Law Code, "anyone who transports, shelters, or enables the stay of a "FOREIGN ILLEGAL NATIONAL" is guilty of breaking U.S. immmigration law and will be fined accordingly. CASE CLOSED!
To Bobby,
As the LAW says "will be fined accordingly" let them pay a fine and let's move on.
Other thing illegals doesn't cost much because they come when they are young and healthy, the US born children from those illegals are the ones who cost a lot but as you said Bobby America is a country of LAWS so please read "Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution" Section 1, so US citizen are costing us money, not their illegal parents, CASE CLOSED!!!
It's always sad to see so much hatred and ignorance. I'm praying for the day when we can see the PEOPLE behind all of these negative labels and their true worth.
Hey Carl obese people like you are more expensive than all the illegal immigrants, California waste $40 billion yearly in obese people like you, we should deport you or something.
Scientific studies shows fat people are less productive, for obese people like you we are loosing our productivity. Please obese people stop overloading our healthcare system
MIke, I don't know Mr. Braun but I'll bet he has INSURANCE and doesn't need me or YOU to pay for Healthcare. Thats what real citizens do. They pay for themselves. As for the 14th Amendment, read it gain since you like to quote it so much. It was never intended for skinny illegal freeloaders like you.
Again, no Modern Man. We do not just move on. We do not just "charge a fine". You're whole attitude makes a mockery of U.S. citizenship and/or legal standing. It's a priviledge to live in this nation. Billions of people around the world would like to. Millions of others, apply legally, and get screwed because of your attitude of "let them pay a fine and move on". These people came here without permission, they are arrogant, they have marched by the millions against the citizens of this nation, and THEY NEED TO BE DEPORTED ON THE FASTEST THING SMOKING, HEADING TO WHEREVER THEY CAME FROM. OUT!! VAMANOS!! AMERICAN OWE THEM NOTHING, ZERO, ZILCH, NADA, NYET, NIX.
Mike, you're another clueless airhead. It doesn't matter if Carl weights 600 pounds. He is an American citizen with roots in this nation and therefore has been a part of the people who built it. Illegals aren't, most have a nation, like for example Mexico. No one asked them to bring their butts over here. Thousands have come here to cause mayhem on Americans, and should be shot on sight when the do things like shoot out of cars at innocent people while on mayhem patrol with their vatos. Millions of others, arrogantly marched against Americans in dozens of major American cities. THE VAST MAJORITY OF AMERICANS DON'T WANT THESE ILLEGAL ALIEN FOREIGN NATIONALS HERE. There are Oriental illegals, Indian illegals, Middleastern illegals, Irish Illegals, Brazilian illegals, etc.etc. BUT MEXICAN ILLEGAL ALIENS were the only ones who MARCHED AGAINST AMERICANS WITH SIGNS TELLING THEM TO GO BACK TO EUROPE ETC. A--HOLES. Those Europeans built this country. Son, these are poor citizen prospects.
ModernMan said:
"As the LAW says "will be fined accordingly" let them pay a fine and let's move on.
Other thing illegals doesn't cost much because they come when they are young and healthy, the US born children from those illegals are the ones who cost a lot but as you said Bobby America is a country of LAWS so please read "Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution" Section 1, so US citizen are costing us money, not their illegal parents, CASE CLOSED!!!"
The law says that the person who is aiding and abetting the illegal alien will be fined, not the illegal alien himself. The law says that illegal aliens are supposed to be arrested and deported. Also, numerous studies have shown that illegal aliens use up more in taxpayer funded services than they contribute in taxes. CASE CLOSED!
Norma said:
"It's always sad to see so much hatred and ignorance. I'm praying for the day when we can see the PEOPLE behind all of these negative labels and their true worth."
Most of the hatred and ignorance is coming from the illegal aliens and their supporters. They hate Americans, they hate our laws, and they hate our culture, traditions, and way of life. Remember, if you support illegal immigration, you support lawbreaking.
Antonio, forget it. When you make the point that when you support illegal immigration you support lawlessness, it goes over so many peoples heads. There are a lot of lawless Americans who exploit illegal aliens and are getting rich doing it. Meanwhile, when one of their workers gets hurt on the job, they send them to the county hospital and make taxpayers take care of it. Illegal immigration is a scam from step one right to the end. It's all about the money with the chambers of commerce, churches, businesses, politicians, etc. No one cares about the citizens.
To Bobby,
you said " There are a lot of lawless Americans who exploit illegal aliens and are getting rich doing it" like the FAT Obese Carl who writes this crappy article about illegals and gets pay lol.
StandingCloud:
"MIke, I don't know Mr. Braun but I'll bet he has INSURANCE and doesn't need me or YOU to pay for Healthcare"
If he pays a private INSURANCE no wonder why the insurance is so expensive, it should be affordable like in Canada or France, but for FAT people we have to pay a fortune for insurance
Bobby said:
"It doesn't matter if Carl weights 600 pounds. He is an American citizen with roots in this nation and therefore has been a part of the people who built it. Illegals aren't, most have a nation, like for example Mexico. "
So Carl supposed to have root from MEXICO (California, Nevada, New Mexico, Colorado, Utah Arizona, Texas were Mexican territories) or native Americans??? or he has roots in a Country like Ireland where their parents came in a ship illegally trying to scape poorness and religion persecution??
Yeah BP_Fan. Your comments show you to be the true moron you are. As for Mike- Learn some English before you try and have a discourse on these forums. Sorry. Discourse is a big word for you but try looking it up. You're an embarrassment to REAL immigrants. Oh there I go again using big words. Well. Ask someone what REAL means.
To Big Dog,
What?? those are words that everyone understands LOL are you retarded? are those words "BIG" in your tiny vocabulary? those words comes from Latin and it sounds the same in Spanish, any person who speaks Spanish and no English would understand those two words (Discourse, Embarrassment) LOL you are so ignorant that you didn't know that
Mike, Mexicans had as much right to those Southwest States as European Americans did--NONE. It was American Indian territory. American Indians are not Mexicans. After, they were defeated, Americans(from Europe) built up those territories, as part of one of the most modern countries in the world. So you see Carl's roots are not from Mexico. This is the 21 century. This is The United States of America you are talking disrespectfull of. Why don't you go talk disrespectful in Mexico? They abuse their people all the time, for the last 400 years in fact.
Geez, where do these people come from??
Mike said:
"So Carl supposed to have root from MEXICO (California, Nevada, New Mexico, Colorado, Utah Arizona, Texas were Mexican territories) or native Americans??? or he has roots in a Country like Ireland where their parents came in a ship illegally trying to scape poorness and religion persecution??"
Many Americans can and do have roots in this country that go back many generations, but still not be descended from the Native Americans. If Carl is from the northeast part of the U.S., maybe he has roots in England (the original 13 states were British colonies). Funny how we never hear the British people bitching and complaining about how we "stole" that land from them. But then, unlike Mexicans, the British tend not to dwell on what happened hundreds of years ago. Also, comparing foreigners who came here in the 18th or 19th centuries to illegal aliens coming here today is a very big stretch and just shows how weak your arguments are in support of illegal immigration.
Moving to Mexico
Dear Mr. President, Senate and House of Representatives:
I'm planning to move my family and extended family (18-20 mouths) into Mexico for my health, and I would like to ask you to assist me.
We're planning to simply walk across the border from the U.S. into Mexico , and we'll need your help to make a few arrangements.
We plan to skip all the legal stuff like visas, passports, immigration quotas and laws. I'm sure they handle those things the same way you do here.
So, would you mind telling your buddy, President Calderon, that I'm on my way over? Please let him know that I will be expecting the following:
1. Free medical care for my entire family.
2. English-speaking government bureaucrats for all services I might need, whether I use them or not.
3. All Mexico government forms need to also be printed in English.
4. I want my kids to be taught Spanish by English-speaking (bi-lingual) teachers.
5. Schools need to include classes on American cu
American culture and history.
6. I want my kids to see the American flag on one of the flag poles at their school.
7. Please plan to feed my kids at school for both breakfast and lunch.
8. I will need a local Mexican driver's license so I can get easy access to government services.
9. I do plan to get a car and drive in Mexico, but, I don't plan to purchase car insurance, and I probably won't make any special effort to learn local traffic laws.
10. In case one of the Mexican police officers does not get the memo from their president to leave me alone, please be sure that every patrol car has at least one English-speaking officer.
11. I plan to fly the U.S. flag from my house top, put U S. flag decals on my car, and have a gigantic celebration on July 4th. I do not want any complaints or negative comments from the locals.
12. I would also like to have a nice job without paying any taxes, or have any labor or tax laws enforced on any business I may start.
13. Plea
13. Please have the president tell all the Mexican people to be extremely nice and never say a critical things about me or my family, or about the strain we might place on their economy.
I know this is an easy request because you already do all these things for all his people who come to the U.S. from Mexico .
I am sure that President Calderon won't mind returning the favor if you ask him nicely.
Thank you so much for your kind help,
Sincerely, US Citizen & Taxpayer
The biggest news today was, Kim Jong Il gave "AMNESTY" to two US Citizens Journalist who "CROSSED ILLEGALLY" the North Korean border, I just can't believe, Kim Jong Il has more heart and compassion than all the racist who will never forgive anybody for crossing the border, because they have just hate in their hearts, and can't be better than a criminal dictator.
"Undocumented" gives the impression that they should have documents for some reason.
They are ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS that need to be deported and refused access to American Citizenship for at least 10 years for feeling it's OK to spit on our laws.
Good riddance and we will let NO AMNESTY pass!
DEPORT!!! DEPORT!!! DEPORT!!!
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I honestly wish most Americans reading these posts don't fall for the "hate" charged level against them by lawless people like Mike. The hate, as I said Mike, comes from the other side. The huge marches in American cities across the nation by these vile illegal aliens, the signs, telling Americans to go back to Europe, the poles with the huge Mexican flags flying on them with a small American flag underneath and turned upside down, the identity theft, the tax fraud, the fraud of evey conceivable kind perpetrated by illegal aliens.
What proves what an idiot you are Mike is when you give some murderous dictator credit. LISTEN UP MIKE!!!! If ILLEGAL ALIEN MEXICANS WQULD HAVE DONE THE THINGS IN NORTH KOREA, THAT THEY HAVE DONE IN THE U.S., YOUR BUDDY KIM JONG ILL WOULD HAVE EITHER DEPORTED ALL OF THEM OR SHOT THEM DOWN LIKE DOGS.
To Bobby,
You are preaching just hate and trying to miss inform, I saw those marches and they all carried United States flags, like 99% of them carried American flags and not Mexican, the flags were the stars and bars which is the true American flag, not the one that your kind of people like (The Confederate Flag).
One more data Los Angeles which is the city with more immigrants in the nation and has the lowest crime rate in the last 50 years so it shows how people like you and Carl just miss inform and try to create hate toward other races. Most of the information that you say is false.
Mike, don't waste my time with the Hate crap. You and those at the marches are the haters. B.S., that they carried U.S. flags. That may have been when they already irritated so many Americans, that La Raza finally started to pass out American flags. I was also there in Los Angeles and you are a liar.
By the way Mike, I forgot to mention how older Americans who protest against illegal immigration have constantly been attacked by the "immigrants" and their enablers. Right on u-tube there are scenes where old Americans are physically attacked and had their heads bleeding. The chickens calling themselves the Brown Beret, and other La Raza types instigated those attacks at almost every peacefull demostration of Americans. You can't lie about it because it's right on the internet.
There's the "the U.S. stole the southwest" argument.
Well, the land in dispute was "owned" by Spain for a couple of centuries. Then by Mexico for about 25 years. During these periods, there weren't more than a few thousand Spaniards or Mexicans in the entire territory. It's been owned by the U.S. for about 160 years now, much longer than Mexico's reign. And the U.S. has actually done something with the land, made it habitable for tens of millions. The difference between American and Mexican "twin cities" straddling the border is like night and day, yet the land is obviously the same. It's not the dirt that's important, it's the people. Put another way, if culture didn't matter, Mexico and Central America would be paradise.
There's the "lettuce" argument
We'll be paying $50/head if we don't have illegal aliens working in the fields. As Phil Martin, ag economist at UC Davis shows, the field labor cost in a $1 head of lettuce is about 6 cents. Triple those wages and Americans will
California is different. illegals are wellcome and based on politician math have no financial impact. The other states should encourage illegals to relocate to California. End of problem.
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