Rep. Joe Wilson thrust into national debate
When Congressman Joe Wilson (R) SC blurted out what many Americans were saying to their television sets during the Presidents speech to both houses of Congress, he was instantly vilified as a nativist, racist and bigot from the deep south. His now infamous words, “You Lie!” may have touched off more than he could have hoped for.
For openers, his re-election campaign received upwards of one million dollars in funds when some of the media, namely Sean Hannity, put out a call to help the Republican Representative after learning the outburst resulted in one hundred thousand dollars in campaign donations to his Democratic opponent Rob Miller. Now both men have banked a reported million or more. Miller should send his regards to Wilson.
Perhaps more importantly though is the scampering about by Democrat officials after the comment to try and prove their fearless leader, our fearless leader, did not lie about illegal aliens receiving benefits in the healthcare bill before Congress. Either our beloved President WAS in fact lying, he was parsing words very carefully or at a minimum he was ill informed. Either way, it doesn’t look good for the blue team.
Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, on ABC's "This Week" Sunday, called the Wilson flap a "red herring," saying "there's no disagreements" on limiting health coverage to those in this country illegally.
"The language will be clear" that they won't be covered, Sebelius said. "That will be very spelled out."
I think the operative word here is “will”, as in future tense. She did not say it is NOT in the bill, she said it WILL NOT be in the bill. Translation: It is in the bill now (see below) but thanks to that loudmouth from South Carolina, we have to yank it to make the big man look good.
The so-called “Gang of Six”, the bipartisan group of Senators on the Finance Committee looking at the legislation concur.
"We absolutely assure that those who are here illegally would not get the benefit of any of these initiatives," Sen. Kent Conrad said."
My, my, the folks over at La Raza are not going to like that.
So is healthcare for illegal aliens part of the House bill or not? Well, yes and no. Though an email circulating on the Internet refers to language involving Illegal aliens and non US Citizens, I could find no reference to either. What I did find on pages 50 and 51 was this:
SEC. 152. PROHIBITING DISCRIMINATION IN HEALTH CARE. (a) IN GENERAL.—Except as otherwise explicitly permitted by this Act and by subsequent regulations consistent with this Act, all health care and related services (including insurance coverage and public health activities) covered by this Act shall be provided without regard to personal characteristics extraneous to the provision of high quality health care or related services.
Translation: Nothing having to do with one's personal characteristics (race, gender, hair color, immigration status, etc) will prevent anyone from receiving benefits.
So in the strictest sense of the word, the President may not have actually lied because the bill does not specifically say “illegal aliens.” If you are tiring of all this parsing of words and slick willy’isms. You’re not alone. Estimates vary according to the source, however somewhere between a low of 60,000 to a high of 2 million people protested the Administrations policies on September 12th in Washington. Some called it the biggest protest in DC history. The President said he wasn’t aware of any Washington protests when first asked. Same thing he said about the flurry of July 4th Tea Parties. His senior adviser David Axelrod said on CBS's Face the Nation:
"Conservatives have the right to protest but they don’t represent a mainstream view."
Really. They may not be liars, but these two are living in a different world than the rest of us.
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Comments
Do a little research on American Citizens getting sick or injured in Mexico.You better have a valid credit card runneth over with substantial available credit before a Mexican Doctor will even put a band aid on you.Wow,upwards of a million or so 'Taxpayers' descend on Washington and it is discounted as a passing fancy that does not represent a mainstream view!
My goodness,i guess the inmates are incharge,indeed!
Shame on you for putting this garbage in the public domain. Do you have any clue how much these so called illegals pay in taxes ( not from buying groceries ) but money that actually gets deducted from their paychecks (many illegals have valid SSN nos because they were legal before they became illegal thanks to the stupidity of immigration laws ) ? According to IRS they pay 8-10 billion dollars every year. These are not my numbers but they are from IRS. In effect these illegals are subsidizing the elderly on medicare. Why don't you spell out those numbers ? If you want to have a real debate lets consider all the stats not the ones you are interested in. Lets also take into consideration the billions of dollars (check IRS ) that legal immigrants pay into medicare and social security that they can never avail thanks to the enormous backlogs for green cards and citizenship. - YOU LIE
If you are in these United States illegally,you are subject to deportation!
I am amused when the left gets irritated,they're behavior is redolent of a loud mouthed fifth grader on a playground,trying to bully the weak and timid!
Did you see how Joe Wilson the neo-confederate was on Fox? Looked so honest. Damn snake.
President Obama made a speech on his proposal. How Joe could say he was lying is beyond me. There were many parts of Obama's proposal that are in different sections of four different Bills working their way through the congress. The closest is probably coming out of the senate finance committee today. I can understand why the author is ignorant but not Joe.
Go Joe great job watch the dem cry now
"Read History!!"
Why do you waste your time posting your latin-Marxist LaRaza party-line bs here? Do you really think any rational, law abiding citizens will be swayed to assist you in LaRaza's goal of overthrowing the US (your mythical "Aztlan")?
Take your Marxist manifesto down to Bario Logan where some anchor babies might give you the time of day... you won't be getting it here!
There is no "the Bill". There are four, soon to be five bills.
The good news is according to the most recent poll that I have seen the number of people who do not think republicans are negotiating in good faith is up to 65%. As long as idiots like this are speaking for republicans, it looks really good for the blue team
The language currently being added to the senate bill is about citizenship verification. BUT There's also language in the senate bill that states that if one family member is an American citizen (anchor baby) then the entire household will be eligible for coverage. Hispanic households can have a dozen or more members. They'll all be covered.
Once again the Federal government is encouraging illegal immigrants to come here and have a baby. The golden ticket to ride every social service available for American citizens for life.... and they do.
The reason this is so damaging isn't even the 20 plus million illegal immigrants having thousands of children here every year... it's the incentive we give them to do that which is the really damaging. We need to encourage them all to go home. Not to come here and have babies. Get a clue. Enforce current immigration laws passed in the 1986 amnesty. Deportation by attrition.
Had the native americans kicked out the occupiers hundreds of years ago, we would not have been having this healthcare debate !!. The native americans would have been happy with their natural remedies for cures.
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Joe Wilson was right! I think obama should be saying he's sorry to Joe Wilson. Was anyone reading this at the D.C. Rally? When Joe Wilson's name was mentioned, the cheers were unbelievable!
Illegal aliens get FREE healthcare now! Imagine that! You are in this Country ILLEGALLY and you get FREE healthcare. This has to stop! It will when we get rid of the ILLEGAL ALIENS!
NO ILLEGAL ALIEN HAS A RIGHT TO BE IN THIS COUNTRY FOR ANY REASON!
Joe "Hillbilly" Wilson like you all here is a neo-confederate nazi. Shame on all you rednecks for supporting him. But again what do I expect from all you uneducated country folks!
Read History!!. You need to read ALL of the IRS comments on Illegal ALiens. If you had you wouldn't have missed the part that $11 billion dollars in 2007 was fraudulently obtained in fake refunds by your "taxpaying" illegal invaders. No matter how you spin YOUR history, you lose!
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