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Anti-gun Sen. Charles Schumer of New York has given us a sneak peek at legislation the citizen disarmament cabal will be trial-ballooning to see if it floats. And he's exploiting the Fort Hood shootings to do it.
From CBS News:
Authorities had taken a look at Hasan after intercepting messages between Hasan and a radical imam overseas. The inquiry was closed sometime in early 2009.
Schumer says that should have been enough to raise a red flag when Hasan tried to buy a gun. He says Hasan should not have passed the background check.
That, in Schumer's mind, is "enough" to deny someone a Constitutionally-specified right? Heck, someone e-mailing a jihad website to tell them to pound sand has sent a message that could be intercepted.
Still, Schumer is nothing if not crafty. He knows there is a motherlode of untapped paranoia to exploit here, and using twin threats of terrorism and guns is a time-tested and reliable tactic for spooking and stampeding the herd.
And why stop with radical Islamic terror suspects? In truth, you can't, by law. So we need to include all those "homegrown terrorists" Janet Napolitano warned us about in that DHS report on "right wing extremists." And then we need to stop gun sales to all those potential threats who have been scrutinized--especially those Oath Keepers...and maybe even you or me.
Let's look at how Schumer's proposal would work. From The Epoch Times:
“It is my understanding that when an individual is buying a handgun, National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) staff checks with the Terrorist Screening Center for hits in the Terrorist Screening Database,” he wrote. “In the case of valid hits—where the purchaser in question is the subject of a preliminary or full terrorism investigation—NICS staff can delay the gun transaction for up to three business days and contact the FBI Counterterrorism Division to determine whether those agents have prohibiting information about the individual that is not yet contained in the automated databases.”
So if I'm a real terrorist, and I want to find out if the feds are on to me, even preliminarily, all I have to do to verify it is try and buy a gun? And then I can notify my handlers, we can close down and transfer cell activities, and also blow secret investigations that may have taken months or years to establish, rendering ongoing monitoring and informant activities pretty much worthless? And we know for sure that nobody will, you know, die if that happens?
Gee, Chuck, don't you think that seems kind of...counter-intelligent?
I guess it would if we believed for a moment that his stated intent was his true purpose in this.
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Divide and conquer
In other Schumer gun news, our friends at AmmoLand tell us:
Schumer Introduces Legislation to Create Tax Deduction for Hunters Who Donate Their Venison
This is a rare move for Schumer who has not been friend of Hunters and Gun Owners in the past.
Ah yes, the old separating activists from "sportsmen" trick.
Remember the story of Odysseus: Just because Polyphemus promises to eat you last doesn't mean he's not intending to eat you.
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New GRE
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remember that this only applies to otherwise legal purchases of firearms, as most so-called "crime guns" were, i believe i have read, previously stolen and/or smuggled somewhere where the law says they are not supposed to be.
thus if you accept that the federal government should be keeping files on potential terrorists (which i personally think is ridiculous) then this act can potentially deprive federal law enforcement of another data point in said files, OR, create a de facto gun registration system by cross-referencing NICS.
this is socialism; this is socialist calculation. mises theorized it would not work, that it would bring war and famine when implemented on grand scales. the soviet union then killed millions, and made life miserable for millions more, in the process of demonstrating precisely this.
what makes anyone think it will work on any smaller scale?
how is it moral to do these just by adding more people?
Schumer has no idea of the meaning behind the Bill of Rights, the Constitution, or individual Rights. The people that keep electing this man must either agree with his thinking or pay no attention to what he does or what he proposes. It's men like him and voters like those that will be the cause of the downfall of America.
Always thought CA was bad for 2A rights, but what is it with NY (State and City)??? I did not think a State could find worse representatives than our Pelosi, Feinstein, and Boxer (Matsui too). NY is giving us some real competition for "worst of the worst."
We knew this was coming. Anything to keep from saying that the the Government screwed up again and the Patriot Act and Brady has done nothing to keep anyone safe!
Once again using fear to sell their gun control agenda.
What I really think about Schumer and his bunch:
In 1764, King George III of Great Britain and his Council declared that the territory west of the Connecticut River belonged to the province of New York.
Today it appears the delegates of New York still believe this is so...
FedGov: "You can't see the No-Fly and/or Terrorist Screening Database lists, because they're classified."
Terrorist: "So how do I get around that?"
FedGov: "Try to buy a gun."
Terrorist: "Sweet! Is *that* the 'gun show loophole' I'm always hearing so much about?!?"
The biggest problem with this is that Schumer is proposing to take away rights without due process of law. If somebody is being looked at because of suspected problems, that doesn't mean he's been convicted by a court of law or jury. In America, we don't loose our rights before due process takes place, that's the entire point. In Schumer’s vision, anybody undesirable according to the whims of the sitting government could have their second amendment rights stripped from them.
Let's be fair here. Schumer is what he is. It's the system and the bureaucrats who run the system who broke the safeguards in place. We don't know what was in the "conversations" and it would seem there was enough to haul a Military Officer into the JAG office and charge him with at least "unbecoming...". We all know Hasan was NOT handled properly due to being a Muslim by the politically correct.
I am a multi-gun owner, have a CCW covering 39 states and NRA member. I will say when a scumbag pops up like Hasan, the system should flag him if he violates the law and follow it up to a conclusion. Had this been done properly by the bureaucrats Hasan would not have had the time to buy a weapon, he would have been in the brig. At a minimum he should have been flagged to prevent him, at least legally from purchasing a firearm, or allow the purchase and then nail him. He may have even renounced his US citizenship which is a turn-down for purchasing a firearm.
Instead of all this debate and sugarcoating, What in the World Are muslims Doing in This Country?!
Only a stupid communist politician could think like that, while Obama hires his brown shirts! Does this dumbell expect to get re-elected? I think not!!!! All Americans that love the Constitution
will certainly do their best to see he doesn't!
So let me get this straight. Schumer wants to restrict someones purchase of a handgun based on an FBI investigation of a man that was cleared to be deployed to a war zone. What am I missing?
beebobby, you sum things up elegantly. I'm going to do a special post on WarOnGuns just to encourage people to come read your comment.
Now that Chuck has spoken, I wonder what Kirsten "A-rated" Gillibrand will say?
If applied to chuckie, he would never be allowed to fly or go hunting with Ben Nelson since nobody strikes more terror into the hearts of free men that does Chuck (the Schmuck) Shumer.
Schumer is a hack. Always has been. Always will be.
And the funny thing, the amusing thing is, just like Bubba Clinton, he believes he is the smartest guy in the room.
I would love to play poker with them. i could get rich. Quick.
You know what they say about Chuck? " The most dangerous place to be in D.C. is between Schumer and a T.V. camera. What a clown.
How can we get beebobby signed up to be a gun rights Examiner? :)
We can use all the help we can get, and he's pretty good.
And Schumer is still one of the "only ones" to be issued an unrestricted NYC carry permit.
Beware politicians who are arming themselves while taking away your rights.
Beebobby succinctly cuts right to the heart of the matter. Too bad there's so many 2 brain-celled statist maroons who will buy into Chucky's idiocy.
Considering Hasan had not actually done anything, was a MAJOR in the US Army, why would a background check pick anything up at all. This was a classic case of federal bureacratic nonsense, and political correctness gone awry. Here's one for you guys, at the Great Falls gun show, in Montana, I was approached by a Middle Eastern man of middle age, heavy accent, asking to buy an AK 47, I don't deal in that stuff, but in talking with him, he wanted a full auto AK, not some POS MAK 90. I figured he was either an BATFE plant or a real stupid SOB who probably grew up where full auto weapons are a dime a dozen. Suspicious, you bet...
This and the other recently posted articles about Eric Holder tell me that Obama's gun banners are on the move again, possibly anticipating the coming unrest soon to follow the passage of their government tax care reform bill. Surely America is heading for a dark place.
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