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I typically don't do two posts in one day, but wanted to share a development with regular readers. CNN's John Roberts quoted a Gun Rights Examiner column in his "American Morning" interview with Pastor Kenneth Pagano:
You’re kind of getting it from all sides. You have the critics, again, who say “Would Jesus have carried a weapon,” but you’ve got critics among gun advocates who say the fact that you stipulated that people had to bring their weapons into church unloaded and the only loaded weapon belonged to a police officer kind of rankles them. David Codrea, who is a gun rights advocate, wrote in Examiner.com “The idea that police are the only ones who can be entrusted with loaded firearms should be offensive to everyone who believes in the right of the people to keep and bear arms.” Everybody’s kind of ganging up on you from the right and left.
Pastor Pagano's response?
[T]he reason for open carry was mainly insurance reasons...
If he'd left it at that, I wouldn't have a beef (with him), although I find it curious he has a policy that anticipated his event with such a level of specificity.
But then he went on to say:
Not everyone who owns a firearm is necessarily always responsible or safe with them. I didn’t know everybody who came to the celebration. There were people who were carrying loaded firearms who were not law enforcement. There were people who were legally carrying concealed weapons that were hot and ready to go. We don’t have a problem with that. Just because a person owns a firearm, doesn’t means they’re safe and responsible anymore than a person who owns a vehicle means they’re a safe and responsible driver.
He doesn't seem to realize he's confirming my original criticism, and indeed, the whole point behind maintaining the "Only Ones" files.
Pastor, just because a person is employed by the government and has a badge "doesn't mean they're safe and responsible" either.
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Comments
Re: "Pastor, just because a person is employed by the government and has a badge "doesn't mean they're safe and responsible" either."
Excellent point David. The police shooting in the Oakland BART subway station on 01/01/09 is a prime example IMO. Thanks for the posting David.
I guess the preacher thinks all sticks are loaded like Aron's?
This preacher is worshipping both gods.
Pagano is "pro gun" as long as yours isn't loaded. Schumer is "pro gun" as long as yours isn't ugly. Sarah Brady is "pro gun" as long as yours is for hunting but not self-defense. It's hard to draw any line where these folks aren't all on the same side of it.
Why doesn't Pagano just hand out neon pink squirt guns to his congregation to wear? That should satisfy his need to feel "pro gun" and his mistrust of the common man at the same time.
Would Jesus have carried a weapon?
What kind of stupid question is that? According to the Nicene press release Jesus could transform elements, revive the dead (presumably he could do the reverse?), levitate, control the weather, read minds, had power over several diseases and replicate matter. At the least. He was most of the the X-Men all rolled into one package. If I had powers like that I would need to carry a gun either.
"Just because a person owns a firearm, doesn’t means they’re safe and responsible anymore than a person who owns a vehicle means they’re a safe and responsible driver."
Well then, pastor, better chain off the church parking lot because something MIGHT happen.
Better to be safe than be sorry!
Corny Codreanu finds that there are some bad cops. And the solution according to the leader of the Legion of the Archangel Michael? Give everyone guns. Where there are stringent standards and training, some bad guys slip through. So let's have no standards and no training, and problem solved. Brilliant work, Corny. I'll bet you move heavy things around at your day job.
Hey FATtys back. Such a pathetic little troll. All he can do is call names and use playground methods of debate. You need a role model.
Fascist Alarm Tingling says:
"Corny Codreanu finds that there are some bad cops. And the solution according to the leader of the Legion of the Archangel Michael? Give everyone guns. Where there are stringent standards and training, some bad guys slip through. So let's have no standards and no training, and problem solved. Brilliant work, Corny. I'll bet you move heavy things around at your day job."
David never advocated giving everyone guns, and he never advocated not getting training. You'll never make Detective until you learn to observe the facts in the case.
FAT reminds me of the lawyer in the movie Idiocracy. The scary part is there are probably people out there who read his drivel, nod their heads and think he is clever.
Please don't run him off yet. Whenever I get depressed over the state of affairs (bad pun, I know) I can look him up and, realizing he (or she) probably is one of the opposition's brightest thinkers, I feel much better.
Not everyone who owns a vehicle is totally responsible either- best make them come to church with an empty fuel tank!
What the hell is FATbag talking about? Does anyone even understand his references to David being a Romanian facist? Are you telling us that because David may be of Romanian decent he is somehow a closet facist? Hiding in plain sight and pretending to be pro gun? Is this the most retarded thing any anti has ever attempted? Please spell it out for me I have no clue what you are talking about.
From long experience as a forum moderator/admin, I can tell you that the best cure for a troll is shunning. Don't respond.
It may be amusing to some to read the drivel, but eventually the signal to noise ratio gets worse and the quality of the overall experience goes down the tube. Don't let it happen at the Examiners!
Don't feed the troll!
Would Jesus have carried a weapon?
Luke 11:21 and 22:36
Sounds a lot like a command to carry a weapon.
FAT is a caricature of an anti-liberty drone. He MUST just be trying to make those idiots look bad. Right?
Man--I gotta figure out how to draw the really fun stalkers like FAT. He's the biggest laugh I've had in weeks.
As I've said before, David, being despised by the despicable is as big an honor as being admired by the admirable, and you seem to do quite a lot of both.
So I was thinking, what is with FAT? I google search "corny codreanu" and on Amazon.com found:
"For My Legionaries: The Iron Guard (Paperback)
by Corneliu Zelea Codreanu (Author)
"Here we are, congregated one afternoon in the spring of 1919 in the Dobrina Forest which stands sentinel on the heights around Husi...)""
So there was a Romanian Fascist named Corneliu Zelea Codreanu who was also an author. Big Deal.
My last name is Marks, an Austrian Hungarian name frome Trieste sometimes spelled Marcks. Did you know that there was a German General named Marks who covered for Rommel on June 6,1944 while Rommel returned to Germany to celebrate his wife's birthday? Did you know that General Marks was executed by the French for war crimes against the French civilian population? Did you know that General Marks' brother emigrated to the US, and the brother had a son who entered pilot training for the USAF, and was a decorated Viet Name veteran?
No? Am I related to this Marks? No!
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