Jersey City Police Chief Thomas Comey could not make it more clear. Pump action shotguns are "assault weapons."
"This weapon is manufactured for nothing other than to hunt man."
See for yourself:
Left unsaid is why he considers weapons "manufactured for nothing other than to hunt man" suitable for police work:
"It's used as part of a tactical equipment for law enforcement agencies in this country."
Translation: We're the "Only Ones" who should have pump-action shotguns. You cannot.
Why? Because:
"It's in the hands of someone who's already been convicted of certain persons not to possess a firearm."
What?
But OK, let's assume we understand what he just said. And:
He said that authorities traced the gun's serial number and were reasonably certain that at some point the weapon was purchased legally in the South.
Aren't all guns manufactured by a firearms company legally owned at "at some point"? Seeing as how ATF's last released Firearms Trace Data report for New Jersey places "time to crime rates for firearms with a New Jersey recovery" at 12.38 years (over two years longer than the national average of 10.33 years), the only conclusion we can reach is Chief Comey doesn't want anyone who is not working for law enforcement to have any guns ever.
His absurd blaming of guns that "take lives" and "threaten police officers" instead of blaming criminal individuals demonstrates that. As does his failure to relate New Jersey's already draconian gun laws, where:
[I]t is unlawful to knowingly possess any rifle or shotgun without having first obtained a Firearms Purchaser Identification Card (FID)...
You see what's going on here.
But wait! He said "tactical shotguns."
Functionally they are no different from any other pump-action shotgun. Sure, they can have convenience or cosmetic features: rails for a sight or light, special grips and stocks, shell holders, heat shields to keep you from burning your hand...
The barrel of guns sold in the "civilian" market can't be any shorter than "legal" length without being registered with and taxed by ATF, and you load the next shell into the chamber by racking the slide, just like with any other pump-action shotgun. And you can load bird shot, buck shot, slugs...just like any other shotgun.
"Somebody's gotta wake up and smell the coffee and say 'enough is enough.'"
That would be people like me, chief. We have. Enough is enough and we will not disarm. Believe it.
And you asleep-at-the-switch "sportsmen" who haven't come to the realization yet that you're also on the menu, take note.
One more point I couldn't help notice: The "authorized journalists" at MyFoxNY.com took it on themselves to edit the chief's mangling of the language:
"We should stop being afraid of the NRA and start being afraid [for] our own rights," Comey said.
That's not what he said. Listen carefully to the video.
Interesting Freudian slip, don't you think?
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Comments
David, I know you aren't guilty of it, but this story just highlights another problem endemic to the pro-gun movement. WAY too many pro-gun folks are too deferential to the police. You watch, we'll have people making excuses for this jack-booted thug, and trying to explain away his tyrannical little rant.
This guy needs to be stopped cold. Now, me, I'd go for suing him under the federal civil rights statutes, for "conspiracy to deprive civil rights under color of law". Though I guess we have to get state incorporation first... I can hardly wait.
Guys like him just disgust me. He was hired to SERVE AND PROTECT, damnit. Every street cop I've ever talked to understands damn good and well the difference between a thug and a citizen, and WANTS the good guys to have guns to protect themselves. Just too much of the leadership somehow forgets that, or more likely were "Men Who Would Be Kings" in the first place.
It's obvious this guy has no clue. All I've ever used my pump gun for is hunting small game. And his slip at the end, "we should be affraid of our rights". Huh??? Did I hear that right? Afraid of our rights? The only thing I'm afraid of is idiots like this. The clue;ess liberal left.
I'm not "afraid of our own rights" "I'm afraid FOR my rights" with asshats like this guy out there anywhere near a position of power.
Ya know, thinking about it the leftist control freaks ARE afraid of our rights, it's why they want guns removed from the folks who obey "laws" they want a "fairness doctrine" so that we who oppose tyranny can't speak against them, religion because THEY expect to be prayed to instead of for.
The idea that somehow they've more important than we the people because a small percent of us that bother to vote has put there where they are (overlooking the massive fraud in the system) is sickening, if not signs of some kind of mental illness.
These people enable killers. Under the laws they are just as guilty as the persons wielding the weapons against them and society due to their demands that only a very tiny fraction of the populace can be trusted to do the right thing and confront criminals.
Think this might wake the Fudds up?
No, me neither.
con't He shows the criminal mentality here by saying his wants are above those of society. The "My needs are more important than yours and I can use force to make sure I win."
He is evil and frightening. I don't know him but I suspect at some point he may have held the position and opinion he was serving society, but he has joined the dark side and become what he fought against.
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." - T Jefferson
Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants, it is the creed of slaves." W Pitt
"The said Constitution shall never be interpreted to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms." S Adams
"One of the greatest delusions in the world is the hope that the evils in this world are to be cured by legislation." - Thomas Brackett Reed
"A sword is never a killer, it is a tool in a killer's hand." - Seneca
He definately has some form of mental defficiency. Though, I wasn't aware that they allowed individuals with Down Syndrome to be promoted to police chief. Well, I guess the rest of the population is even dumber than everyone thinks they are.
How did this idiot ever make chief? i have an 870,, it has not assaulted anyone.
Jersey City must be so proud to have this stooge bloviate on matters that are obviously far too deep for him to grasp.
How this particular mental midget managed to rise to the top job in that city might make a great horror story. I figure he must be some "important" persons' ne'er-do-well relative, who was previously unemployable at whatever menial job he held prior to this appointment.
This is one case where I think it would be an absolute waste of time emailing a response. If, by some miracle, this mouth-breather can actually read, I am sure he cannot comprehend.
Sleep tight, Jersey City. This guy has your back.
Like how he says this gun comes from a more liberal state that lets you buy guns......
What a fat POS.
I suppose he has already made a public rant about semi-auto shotguns, and is now just trying to make all shotguns illegal in Jersey?
You guys are absolutely right - they are TERRIFIED of us. Of ANY freedom loving, self sufficient citizen, who is smart enough to see through their schemes. Don't kid yourselves, either, the worst of them will lie, cheat, steal, and KILL to enforce their vision & power.
Don't sell the people short, though. Somebody mentioned low voter participation. I've never agreed that's apathy. Don't think that at all - I think at least some of it is outrage, and a growing determination that "no matter who you vote for, the government gets elected", as libertarians put it.
LOTS of people are fed up... but, remember
"Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
When The People decide, it will be time.
Here's an email
policechief@jcnj.org
might be generic, and could emails go nowhere.
I decided it was 'time' long ago... Just waiting for enough others to catch up with me. :)
We have to start looking at restrictin some peoples 1A Rights, along the lines of:
"Insult Weapons of Mass Confusion...... These statements have one reason and one reason only, because people are stupid. We have to get these retarded statements off of the streets, before someones feelings get hurt..........
The 1A was meant for proper English, and quill pens..... At no point does the constitution mention ANYTHING about talking into microphones to mass media outlets, or the internet.............
At one point the words were put together from statment made legally and reassembled to become evil in nature..............."
I know its ridiculous, but so are they and I cant get my mind around it. It seems so basic to most of us, but this guy is just another court jester among a kingdom of fools.
Precisely, MamaLiberty. Then there's the small matter that we don't yet know what it is time FOR. Who knows? I don't have a lot of hope that things will get straightened out without an awful mess, but stranger things have happened.
Curt - as I alluded to in my first post on this thread, there IS something already in the law that applies.
USC 42.1983 Civil action for deprivation of rights
www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode42/usc_sec_42_00001983----000-.html
USC 18.241 Conspiracy against rights
www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/usc_sec_18_00000241----000-.html
USC 18.242 Deprivation of rights under color of law
www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/usc_sec_18_00000242----000-.html
The latter two statutes are not as useful, though far more interesting, really, as they carry stiff criminal penalties. But you have to get a prosecutor to indict first. 1983 cases, though, are civil actions, which says they can be initiated by us chickens. Why do you think the hoplophobes are screaming so loud at the notion of incorporation? We get RKBA finally legally recognized, and within fairly broad limits we CAN shut these jerks down COLD.
With some after thought and reflection, I hope nobody took my comment, which was meant to illuminate the tagging of words like "assault weapons", into meaning anything more than a tongue in cheek approach to illuminate the Antis ability/attempt to twist the way the 2A reads and is often interpretated by people that want to claim the time period for in which it was written. (it was about muskets and muzzleloaders)
I apologize if this was the case.
MamaL, are we related? I have been waiting for the laggards also, for a very long time. When I was younger I was certain I would see it in my lifetime. Now, not so much. It seems the character of the nation has deteriorated faster than its liberties, thus enabling the killers of liberty and the citizen to flourish.
When we were young this man would have been publicly and universally scorned, now he holds high office. If we are to change what we will become, we must first change what we are.
I don't hope much anymore. Once surrendered, guts and honor are almost impossible to reachieve. It's just too damn easy to be a coward.
However, it is impossible for an honorable man to be one, especially when he realizes there are worse things than death. Slavery being only one of them.
I like the guy behind him who CLEARLY thinks he is wrong, but has to save his job. He laughs at every inane utterance coming out of the mouth of the retarded chief....
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Chief Comey, please come to take away my shotgun and I will show you exactly what it is used for.
He was correct by accident. High-capacity, 12-gauge pump guns were used extensively in WW1 for trench raids (known as "trench guns"); even had bayonet lugs. In the '40s they were handed to GIs who were tending to prisoners, and the guards as well as the guns were called "prisoner chasers."
Er. . .Chief. . .so what?
"It's a Mossberg weapon, used for tactical entries by us..."
I love how Mossberg 500s have been around for years, yet, suddenly, the police acquire a few with pistol grips and it becomes a tactical assault weapon that the general populace isn't permitted to use. So because the police adapt something, it means everyone else can't use it? Does that apply to other things as well, such as cars? Because I would have no problem taking all Crown Vics off the road all over the country.
What you have here is a combination of inadequate training, a cocky attitude and overconfidence, this is why some Police in that part of the U.S. do not do well even when coming up against someone with no training.
I am able to say this since in the past I have known some LEO's that are in that area, there are some that are not qualified to be on the force. Just take a look at the stupid statements that the head of the Jersey City Police Force makes, he got the job not because he's qualified, but because he's in with the Politicians.
We’ve always said that sooner or later they would get around to shotguns and it now looks official.
Just look at the transition
Granddads pump shotgun=Evil pump shotgun=assault weapon
Personally I’m sick and tired of the disqualifiers. We now have laws on the books that disqualify people for things that weren’t even around in 1968.
I’ve said it before and I’m saying again, NRA compromise and concession have brought us down this path and it’s got to stop.
Anyone of us can loose our rights for an innocent mistake or malfunction.
Jersey...the septic tank of the U.S. It would be so damn hilarious if someone would have run up to him and whipped the crap outta him with a 2x4 and said "Here's your damn assault weapon"! Better yet, do that to ANYONE that thinks the way this turd does. You know, it's time to call these idiots out. NOW. I am ready. Now more than ever, with the Record of Sale Bill that is making its way trough Congress right now. Oh yeah folks, there is legislation in this Bill that would require you liscense each and every firearm you own, and renew every year. We all know what happens then don't we. Disarmamnet. Ensalvery. And inevitably, death in concentration camps. If a face to face fight with these morons is not what you are looking for, I suggest you make haste and inform your elected representatives that in NO WAY, SHAPE, FORM, OR FASHION should they allow this Bill to pass. No matter what else the Bill consists of. The Liberty this country stands for in not worth the risk.
Fat turds like this POS will get theirs very soon. The time for action is just about upon us. When The People have had enough, it will begin. Bring it on...
Comey has been officially added to the list.
This fat POS deserves whatever comes to him.
He has been added to the list.
To any Federal douche-nozzles who happen upon this, the list comprises those individuals who I wish to send a box of candy to.
It is funny he would never mention how much that asult-shotgun would cost on the streets. The truth is in a state where it is easy to buy these guns thay cost several times what the black market charges on the street. These guns arn't purchased they are stolen or smuggled into the country through the black market and this incompetent boob knows this.
this guy is nothing short of a complete idiot, its bad enough he cannot speak in complete sentences !! and is the chief of police in new jersey, but is ignorant beyond belief about firearms or the rights of the citizens of the united states of america, i hope people in new jersey wake and smell the coffee and relize that guns in there community aren't the problem its the fact that there chief of police is an idiot!!!!!!!!
Hey Chief... when it comes to food, maybe you should also think "enough is enough".
Where is the outcry against the law and judge/jury which and who put these vermin back on the street? As always, this is never considered. The time is well over due for a take-back of our rights. What in hell are we good citizens waiting for?
Besides claiming that "we should be afraid of our own rights" he said that if 3 percent of his officers were crooked, we'd want him prosecuted. I'm not sure what that non-sequitur had to do with his attacking shotguns, but IMO it's a safe bet that more than 3% of his force IS crooked.
Bad shotgun Bad. Bad. Put shotgun in jail. It made the felon in possession do his bad acts.
Perhaps the donuts are affecting his brain as well as his girth. Time for some donut control.
If you are driving the wrong way, drive faster.
As a paramedic I have witnessed many such irrational outbursts by family members of people who have died tragically. I believe we are seeing the same dynamic here. His language is jumbled like that of someone in a state of panic. Though it is unfortunate that he is abusing his power (political campaigning while on duty) and speaking as a position of influence, we should be mindful that he is not thinking rationally, much like a mourning family member, at the time of this filming.
Did anyone else follow the link to the bio of the FoxNY reporter who "corrected" the chief's comment about being afraid of our rights? That bio makes the reason for the "correction" a bit more understandable. To whit:
"Arun has worked at WNYW/FOX 5 since 2001. He's held various jobs around the newsroom. Currently he writes and produces content for MyFoxNY.com.
Arun, an alumnus of Columbia's Graduate School of Journalism, is an NYPD auxiliary police officer, a staff officer with the U.S. Coast Guard Auxiliary, a member of various professional organizations that take his money and publish e-newsletters asking him for more money, and an avid Yankees fan."
Did anyone follow the link to the FoxNY reporter's bio? That makes Fox's "correction" of the chief's comment about fearing our rights a bit more understandable.
"
Arun has worked at WNYW/FOX 5 since 2001. He's held various jobs around the newsroom. Currently he writes and produces content for MyFoxNY.com.
Arun, an alumnus of Columbia's Graduate School of Journalism, is an NYPD auxiliary police officer, a staff officer with the U.S. Coast Guard Auxiliary, a member of various professional organizations that take his money and publish e-newsletters asking him for more money, and an avid Yankees fan."
Before I rip into this RETARD, Ill make it VERY clear. I am praying for those officers who were injured. My prayers for their healing and recovery. My father was in Law Enforcement for over 32 years. AND.. I am an HONORABLY DISCHARGED US MILITARY Veteran who has also WORKED with Law Enforcement. This DIMWIT Jersey City Police Chief Thomas Comey thinks a PUMP SHOTGUN with a retractable stock is an assault weapon? WHAT A FRIGGIN MORON! HEY CHIEF, You heard of the uh.. 2nd Amendment there buddy boy? Guess what? UP YOURS IDIOT. And YOU ARE A CHIEF? You dont even know your weapons or their purpose or OUR RIGHTS as citizens. You are another one of those SHEEPLE.. ironically you are cop.. I think they need a new CHIEF UP THERE. Someone who can actually talk and know what the H*LL he's TALKING ABOUT!... IDIOT.
"This is designed to hunt Man."
He should know, I guess. That's why his cops use them.
And he really, really needs to lay off the doughnuts!
That's weird! My Model 870 Remington pump used to work great for hunting Dove, Quail, Squirrel, Rabbit and even Deer (with slugs or 00 Buck) in the 60's and 70's. But, one of the "only ones'" leaders of unimaginable knowledge says they're only made "for hunting men." Hell, I'd have bought an auto-loader had I known that at the time.
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