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It's always curious when a religious organization that relies on
the First Amendment for its existence attacks the Bill of Rights.
(Benedict Arnold courtesy of Wikipedia)
As the Supreme Court prepares to hear McDonald v. Chicago, challenging Chicago’s handgun ban, anti-self-defense proponents have tried to shift the focus onto public safety issues. But even when viewed from their perspective, homicide data from the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) provides no support for the idea that fewer guns makes society safer.
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I think someone needs to go back and read their Catechism.
(can't comment with a URL, so I guess copy/paste this into your browser)
www.vatican.va/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a5.htm
That's right, venues with weak gun laws don't suffer from high violent crime rates comparatively speaking, but venues hundreds or even thousands of miles away with strict gun laws suffer from those weak gun laws. By remote control, I suppose. Or could it be that the public hasn't been informed that teleportation has been invented and perfected?
Oh wait, I think I discovered the flaw. They are lying because the reality does not lend itself to their fantasies. Damn! Whgat a surprise!
ya right,what a pack of lieing bs, commist anti-gun nuts ,think that its safe,er with out guns, will put this in your pipe and smoke it, your nuts, the lawless dont care if you outlaw one thing, theyed still kill ,with or with out a gun,as for you thinking your safe with out them , your not,your just the place ,that would let a army run right over you comeing into the usa, were im at it,ed cost them,and you lowlife have more crime ,no thanks to your owen doing, blame your selfs, me ill keep my guns and you or no one is getin them for free the fact is a person cant kill you if you shoot him first . if every one was packin there would be not much crime,the chain gangs of the 1920s worked fine, and hangin them worked good to ,but doint think you can fool the usa that packin is unsafe, it is safe ,and the lowlife dont like eatin lead,but you anti-gun nuts dont get it most all persons are not as stupid as you,,,,,,commist enslavers love you,
If someone is determined and desperate enough to want you dead, not even moats, castles and Air Force One can prevent your own murder. With that said, rarely does such determination take hold.
On a more practical level, Person A walks into Location B and randomly opens fire killing innocent Person C. Even if concealed carry licensee D then fires in self defense killing Person A, innocent Person C is still dead.
Since the time of Cain and Abel, and before if one holds to different theological views, murders have happened. Murders are going to continue to happen.
We need to be careful to avoid the same trap the other side is so fond of visiting--believing that if we just do X then there will be no murders. Poppycock. We can do things that reduce the murder rate, but we'll never reduce it to zero over time for any significant population group.
With 4 to 5 million people carrying concealed and falling crime rates, the dog of gun control still don't hunt.
Ken: True what you say. As long as there are persons of evil intent, there will be violence. (As opposed to self-defense, which stops violence.)
I am not sure what you mean by the "there will be no murders" claim.
Here, the anti-rights VPC claims that handgun bans make us safer. I noted the CDC data, which rebuts their claim. End of this story.
As you note, there remains a murder rate in RTC states, though for some strange reason, it's lower than in restricted-carry states. So it appears that the "concealed carry is dangerous" argument is also false.
At this point, I would agree with Straight Arrow. Since everybody has access to CDC data, VPC & Co. appear to be lying to advance their agenda.
But if they have to lie, how trustworthy are they, and how can their agenda be good for us? That's the question we should demand they answer, in public.
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