The development team of Tohoku University and Sony has completed work on a new laser technology offering 20 times the capacity of current Blu-Ray discs. The most difficult aspect, if I can make sense of the google translation as well as I think I can, was reducing the size of the equipment needed to produce such a strong beam of light down to the size of commercial products.
Currently the technology can only be used in experimental prototypes costing over $100,000 to produce. Sony plans to have the laser available to consumers within a few years. Can anyone guess what tech will ship with the PlayStation 4?
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Disc, shmisc. The future will be streamed
I agree with Dick, although I still think Sony's next system will still have some kind of disc drive. PS5, on the other hand.
Depends on when they release the PS4 I guess
Comments like that give me the shivers...IF the future would indeed be streamed, it will be also heavily controlled content wise by these corporations, as in, worse than the worst DRM.I would like to say to Sony, MS, and Nintendo, that if anyone of them follows the path of onlive, they can kiss millions of rears goodbye, but hey, you'll attract people who don't mind being online for the mere right to play content...
And Farmville players!.Good luck with your new target, you'll need it when trying to make them pay for content.
If they use this for the PS4 is going to cost like $700 or more.
fu8k streaming, give me the disc. tender legal in exhange for a tangible item, no illusions please.
fu8kin morons
Most ps3 games use far less than the 25GB available on one layer disc, let alone the available 50GB on dual-layer disc. And manufactures are already shipping 100GB discs that only requires some small hardware changes. (and 200GB promised shortly)
A 1TB file size is definately overkill for a 10-20 hour game at 1080p. Even with localization 200GB is fine.
Sony spent a fortune including Blu-Ray with the PS3. It won't want to make that risky investment again with a newer technology.
@Jordan
You don't know what your talking about, most PS3 exclusive games use more than 25GB
let me give you few examples
Uncharted 2 40 GB
LBP 45 GB
Killzone 2 30 GB
Demon's souls over 20 GB
GranTurismo 5 is taking a full Dual layer Bluray disk and thats 50 GB.
so inform your self first, before you look like an id**t.
I'm guessing that the Xbox 720 is going to try and innovate the Hologram Disc (1TB) and Dual-Layered Hologram Disc (2TB) but Sony has patented blu-ray technology so the PS4 will use a blu-ray hologram disc (in theory it should be 5TB single-layered and 10TB Dual-Layered since the blue laser multiplies the capacity of a disc by 5, as the blu-ray disc did against the Digital Versatile Disc).
Dont know where you got the idea that Little Big planet is 45GB big, since I downloaded and its on my PS3 for only 2.3GB
this is y sony sux. 1st the ps1 used cds great awesome glad it happened. the the ps2 used dvds even better. now the ps3 uses blu-ray and then the ps4 might use somthing different. thats gay
Sony still has way too much debt from the PS3 because of Blu-ray. No way they screw up again with another new disc format. Stringer didn't go through all of that trouble restructuring the company to continue making the same stupid mistakes. But you have to give Sony credit for making sop many believe Blu-ray was needed. Looking at some of the comments, some still believe all of that space was actually needed. Downloading the same games shows otherwise. No one is complaining or comparing the difference in the DD and uncompressed disc versions of the same game. Since they haven't questioned that in the last four years, there must not be a perceptible difference. Which then proves Sony just wanted to own the home video market, not provide a needed product. You can have a 25gig game with DVD by having multiple disc and downloading it to the HD and only needing disc one in the console to run the whole game. Next generation MS can just use HD DVD. Same as DVD, different laser, smaller pits.
Sounds awesome! More the better. Hope I live long enough to see it
Blu-ray is needed. DVD is 15yr old technology and DVDs are way to fragile. Blu-ray has much more space and they are nearly indestructable.
@ Fanboy (aka dcbronco)
Have you seen any major games such as Killzone 2, Uncharted, Uncharted 2, FF13 for download? No, because they require to much space, probably only small games 5gb or less are downloadable (at least for now). And for getting 25gb out of DVD by having to switch discs or installing to HDD, I don't know about you but having to switch a disc for a game kinda seems last generation and if you did install onto HDD that would be 9gbs per extra disc, who wants to have to buy a new 250gb HDD just so it could be taken up by installed games.
Blu-ray is needed. Have you tried fiting a 2 hour uncompressed high def movie on a DVD? It would be impossible. It is even stated by developers that the DVD format is holding back some games and that they lose content because of it. Blu-ray is needed!
you bash on blu-ray for having so much space but your happy with HD DVD, which is barely less than blu-ray. Besides the HD DVD format is dead, no one will be using it anymore.
Ahlan ur wrong uncharted 2 uses 25gb and god of war 3 uses 35gb and there already is a game that uses 50gb and that is mgs4!
If its become donlot in ps4 era. They can say goodbye to gamer from 3rd country to buy thy product. Heck, even for browser internet i can fall a sleep here!
Sounds awesome. Personally I still don't like digital downloads all that much because they can be erased easily and sometimes can only be downloaded a certain number of times (in iTunes if you buy a movie or show and it gets deleted it will charge you for it again if you try to re-download it for example). For the majority of consumers, especially the large group that may not have the best capabilities for downloading, physical media will always trump digital downloads.
@ Lazyeye79
Could not have said it better myself.
Also. As for Playstation 4 there are bluray discs that hold 200 gigabytes. I am sure the bigger blurays and bluray players will be cheaper by then and will be used for the PS3.
While it is true that some PS3 games take up a lot of room on a Blu-ray, it is good to know why. Early on, developers used that space to duplicate textures to cut down on the loading times due to the slow read speed of the drives. The rest is the developer taking advantage of that extra space to store uncompressed multi-channel audio and uncompressed HD video. They use the space because it is there, not necessarily because they require it. Feel free to do the research. Have a great week!
bluray been so a letdown, with all the standards changing leaving older bd player usless, and now 3d bd really has killed it off, no digital downloads is the future. the neews of the ps3 only gnna manage 720p 3d was a shock for most but, hey its no wonder the ps3 got 1.3 hdmi 1080p 3d needs 1.4hdmi like all the real 3d bd players has standard, guess a 1.4 hdmi ps3 is bound 2 get out soon
Actually, HDMI 1.4 can't even handle true full 3D HD @ 1080P60HZ, 1.4 was mostly for adding ethernet and return audio support.
And@Pro Economists, The PS3 isn't hurting Sony, that was only vaguely true for 2006-07, do they still lose money on every PS3 they sell? Yes, do they care? No because people are willing to pay 60$ for a game. Loss on the hardware isn't even worthy of being mentioned, despite the fact that game revenues are highly divided. Even if that wasn't the case, SCEA, and it's International counterparts, is not even in Sony's top 3 subsidiaries/divisions. They make most of their money through industrial/high end professional business some of which of their products cost in excess of a quarter of a million dollars, not end user, although there consumer electronics for Home Theater is up there as well.
While it is true that some PS3 games take up a lot of room on a Blu-ray, it is good to know why. Early on, developers used that space to duplicate textures to cut down on the loading times due to the slow read speed of the drives. The rest is the developer taking advantage of that extra space to store uncompressed multi-channel audio and uncompressed HD video. They use the space because it is there, not necessarily because they require it. Feel free to do the research. Have a great week!
Well.. if you thought that bluray was uncompressed video your head must be in the sand.. I dont see bluray having the run that dvd has had.. Youtube supports 4k now and panasonic also has a 4k tv.. I hate how they push 1080p as High Definition.. But its still compressed imaging.. So in 6 years we will be buying new tvs that support this new tech.. fine with me.. But alot of folks wont be too happy
@dcbronco
Sony Doesn't Care about there Losses, There Losses are starting to Gain and Add up, Since now, The PS3 is the Cheapest it can be, Plus it's Already a Blu-ray Player. There Losses will add up to more Risk taking it's what they do. There new Format or so called Laser is no doubt going to be on the PS4, but not in a Few Freaken years, it's still to early. your being So misguided with your facts.
Props to you. At least one person knew what they were talking about.
This disc will be needed especially because even films will start being recorded at up to 4K, which is vastly larger than 1080p etc. Theaters currently do 2K. That's something that will for certain be pushed as a selling point with PS4 being able to play some media at 4K resolution on upcoming 4K TVs. This is certainly why I believe the PS4 won't arrive here until PS3 has spent precisely 10 years on the market and will continue to sell for maybe 15... They're going to wait it out until the technology is ready for mass production and affordable. And given how much games are costing to make now, I'd say most publishers and developers are also willing to let this generation play out longer than the last one. It's also why Nintendo opted not to make the Wii U significantly more powerful as Iwata mentioned at GDC, that they don't want to accelerate costs of game development, which is what an entire new generation will entail. Microsoft will likely be the first to launch another gen as the Xbox 360 is the most outdated, but even they seem content to wait it out as long as possible.
200Gb disc won't be on ps4...
Keep dreaming
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