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Training in the Philippines was a bad idea

 

Freddie Roach never liked the idea of having to go to The Philippines, and usually he's spot on with his thinking on things as it pertains to Manny Pacquiao.  Already we are hearing about the negative impact that has transpired due to training in the PI.  Manny continues to be distracted by the mass amount of attention that he gets.

 

Pacquiao has been reduced to swimming in a pool rather than running because of the amount of attention that he gets over there.  The weather has been horrible, with floods and the extremely sad news of those who have lost their lives in the typhoon. 

 

This writer has been getting mixed signals from the camp, and does not get the same feeling as previous camps.  Yes, there are always little messy things prior to one of Manny's fights but they get worked out and things resort to normalcy.  This time around there seems to be more to it.  The distractions with the fans, the weather, and then mix in the all out war between Roach and Michael Koncz, it's more than messy.

 

The team will be arriving back in Los Angeles later this month, and it could not be a moment sooner.  Roach and Manny will have about 3 good weeks to adjust back to the time difference.  With Roach being back in his nest at Wild Card, he will have a firmer grip on the Koncz situation as well.  Roach will have more of his soldiers, more of his confidants surrounding him.  Being thousands of miles away, halfway across the world from Los Angeles has it's problems, and we have seen them clearly so far.

 

The good news is that apparently Pacquiao has had some very good sparring.  Jr Middleweight Shawn Porter has been a blessing.  More good news is the fact that Pacquiao is naturally a hard working athlete.  His natural ability mixed in with his work ethic, and a great game-plan by Roach should provide what he needs to get the job done. 

 

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  • ako barok 2 years ago
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    Baguio--one step forward, two steps backward.

  • anubis 2 years ago
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    This writer needs to think before he writes If you read the article he said Manny has been reduced to swimming in the pool. Freddie Roach came out yesterday and said he was happy Manny was in the pool and he would prefer it more than just this fight. The only distractions so far in this training is reports trying to stir things up Because Manny and COtto are quiet writers need to cause incident so they have something to write about If you listen to Manny his fights are in gods hands. Him taking time out for the victims and helping people and remembering who he is may just be an added advantage for him in the fight If greed was to set in If manny is correct that his fights are in gods hands he may well be beaten as punishment if he turns away from his beliefs

  • JoePalooka 2 years ago
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    Pac is goat-headed.
    He should have gone to Vancouver or Mexico to train if he wanted to avoid US taxes.

  • chip 2 years ago
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    brad, what's the deal with pacquiao getting KO'd on sparring?

  • triumph 2 years ago
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    Anubis: I think you need to think before you comment. Cooney is spot on in his report about being "reduced" to swimming. Maybe wrong choice of words, "resorted" would've been a better choice.

    As for training in Baguiao, it was a wrong move since the very beginning and according to all the reports, IMO it has overall been more detrimental than beneficial for Manny.

  • anubis 2 years ago
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    Triumph
    Freddie Roach has been trying to get Manny to swim for a long time he feels its beneficial to fighters liek Roach said today the reporter who said they were leaving early lied There is nothing wrong with the training and Manny will be the same as always

  • Brad Cooney 2 years ago
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    @anubis - Freddie would rather Manny do both swimming and running. But unfortunately, running has been cut out of the equation due to too many people following Manny all over the place. Thanks for reading my article just the same, and God Bless

  • floydfan is Ahole 2 years ago
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    baguio was a bad idea from the start.. Manny wanted to stay here in baguio because he has some short commitments that he can squeeze within his training here.(like the practice on his after fight concert.wth) and Konz, Pacquiao lover is more comfortable being farther from roach army.

    overall.. it is becoming clear on who is the real conArtist. It is MaNNy. and Konz is just playing the orchestra while Manny is the real Composer.

  • ed 2 years ago
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    this is the time that manny will be knock out by cotto..If somebody who want a bet, reply me...I GO FOR COTTO FOR 3000$

  • fogfrogblog 2 years ago
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    When Pacquiao ends up winning, will his training in Baguio still be a bad thing?
    This is just the nature that is in Pacquiao's life. He is called at time a typhoon, and so even it is sad that it happened what calamity has brought to the country, it is nothing that the peoples champ can't handle.
    Come fight night Pacquiao will bring with him Ondoy and Pepeng! LOL

  • floydfan is Ahole 2 years ago
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    Pacquioa is the real conArtist. KOnz is just there doin Manny dirty job, like stealing boxers from fellow filipino managers. Manny needs Konz in order to maintain good reputation in the public he thought filipinos are so dumb not to realize that.

    to Manny. Kiss your political ambition goodbye. You will never win here in Saranggani, even if a goat runs against you during the election. you better start doin the right thing while you have still a hand full of fans left.

  • Ossie 2 years ago
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    Might be a good idea to postpone the fight to December instead...in fairness to everyone...

  • blanche_boy 2 years ago
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    manny as we have noticed nowadays have become complacent and over confident, hope it will not backfire to him come fight night. hes not that hungry to fight anymore, hes mind is elsewhere, politics and showbiz, etc.. another sad thing for him,he's blinded in believing he will win in saranggani as congressman, but basing on surveys, they will only after his money, the vote will still be on the great clan of the Chiongbians...

  • goodstuff 2 years ago
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    Guys don't misunderstood the scribe he did a great job. Understand very well what he's trying to point out before you comment negative things. Always broad the horizon.

  • monster 2 years ago
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    my take on this:

    it is GOOD for manny to train where he is...

    1. the writer has probably never had a really decent swim ever because that is one of the most cardiovascular workouts one can get, and even roach has been quoted as being happy about the swimming because he has been tried to get manny to add that to his workout before.

    2. the coverage and exposure that the 24/7 hbo piece will bring to the devastation that has happened in the philippines will be good for the country. people will get a chance to see what really happened there, and hopefully it will bring more aid to a people that are in need of it.

    3. manny has always trained in a sea of distraction. he'll be fine. if he loses on november 14, it will be because of cotto's fists, not because of a lack of trying.

  • monster 2 years ago
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    sorry about my typos...

    "because he has been tried" = "because he has been trying"

    geez... i really should proof-read before i post... apologies.

  • X 2 years ago
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    Just relax fellas. Scribes got nuthin to write about. Pac will be ready come fight night. Anyone who says "reduced to swimming" instead of running is ignorant & obviously not an endurance athlete. Im a triathlete & swimming is a pretty good way to improve your stamina.

  • Mannyisignorant 2 years ago
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    cotto will ko pacquiao

  • Nemus 2 years ago
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    X is right and I couldnt said it better myself... all these writers got all you nervous nellies doubting of where or how the champ is training which will ultimately lead to his defeat,blah blah blah... Manny is gonna prove all the doubters wrong again.

  • anubis 2 years ago
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    for all you Cotto backers if Manny wins Nov 14TH How long until you use the excuse he overtrained or peaked to early If Manny looses everybody assumes its his training issues is the reason these are 2 talented fighters who aint using excuses they dont need your help the winner deserved it and the loser lost to the better man simple as that

  • Pol Canonce Barugo, Leyte Philippines 2 years ago
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    Manny has taken the easier route in training for the Cotto fight. He is that confident that he can really defeat Cotto by not following Roach decisions with regards to training camp venue. The bad weather and few distractions are not in his mind when he chose to stay in Bagiuo City. HE found the place ideal as any other place to train but without any hint that there will be a devastating storm coming and few people who are clueless that they are causing distractions to his training. HAving said that, he is really that confident that he can knock out Cotto with his technical skills, power and speed. He is not thinking that Cotto is not the guy that can overpower his boxing prowess. Maybe if that is Mayweather PACMAN will follow Roach in every details and decisions the latter will be taking.

  • floydfan is Ahole 2 years ago
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    baguio was a bad idea from the start.. Manny wanted to stay here in baguio because he has some short commitments that he can squeeze within his training here.(like the practice on his after fight concert.wth) and Konz, Pacquiao lover is more comfortable being farther from roach army.

    overall.. it is becoming clear on who is the real conArtist. It is MaNNy. and Konz is just playing the orchestra while Manny is the real Composer.

  • jam 2 years ago
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    maybe a treadmill is better choice than swimming at this point. a novice swimmer can not do 30, 50, or 100 laps a day. manny just dont have the time to learn and adjust to swimming. JUST MY OPINION

  • pacman fan 2 years ago
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    Baguiao was a bad place to train from the beginning. Manny could of just listen to Roach and train in MEXICO. Also with the bad weather in Philippines. Well i wish all my man the best !

  • mcknug 2 years ago
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    it can only be bad when the result is bad, just w8 and see

  • ambot 2 years ago
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    baguio is the best place for manny to train so its easier for ara mina to go. ara can play 12 rounds with manny without time out. lol

  • Heatman 2 years ago
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    Pacman saw something in Cotto during the Clottey fight. PACman KNOWS. Check my new black NIKE shirt.

  • croc_venom 2 years ago
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    Thanks for taking part on the relief operations! Keep up the good work Brad

  • Clueless 2 years ago
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    In boxing, there is no substitute for roadwork! Pacquiao needs to carry his weight and fight on those legs for 12 rounds if he needed to. Swimming is not an equal substitute for running on the road. Deciding to train in Baguio just so he could sneak out and practice his singing voice with the band for the after fight concert was a massive, massive blunder. The more days he miss running on the road, the worse it's going to be for his stamina.

  • Pinoy Boxing Fan 2 years ago
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    no matter what, the end will justify the means...

  • EggXaminer 2 years ago
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    the air in baguio is really good, clean and fresh, i won't be surprised if pacquiao will have significant increase in stamina. although more rains in baguio right now, so, pacquiao has no option left but to practice swimming. swimming is not really that bad at all, some would say it helps strengthen your shoulders. but the water in baguio is very cold, he'll have cramps.

  • PacKeKo 2 years ago
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    For those who aren't convinced that going to Bagiuo is a "BIG MISTAKE", wait until Cotto kicks Manny's ass and he'll be crying even worst than the typhoon victims. LOL

  • jam 2 years ago
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    maybe a treadmill is better choice than swimming at this point. a novice swimmer can not do 30, 50, or 100 laps a day. manny just dont have the time to learn and adjust to swimming. JUST MY OPINION

  • canadian kid 2 years ago
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    for those of you who have a destructive criticism against manny, are you guys going to be happy if he lost? we all lost, nothing to boast about boxing in our country. dont be part of distractions , if you guys dont have something to tell good just keep your mouth shut. you guys dont know what you are saying... stop expeculations, be realistics...

  • rightcross 2 years ago
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    si manny pacquiao ay gifted athlete. walang ano man sakuna o disaster and makahahadlang sa ating pambansang kamao,dahil si manny pacquiao ay walang takot no fear. kaya easy lang kayo mga tsongki, pagdating ng laban tagumpay pa rin si manny at higit sa lahat aang lahat ay kanyang ipinapaubaya sa ating panginoon maykapal.ang lahat ng kalamidad na ating nararasan ay hindi distraksyon ngunit isang inspirasyon para kay manny lalo nyang pagbubutuhin ang laban para mabigyan nya ng kahit kaunting kasiyahan ang kanyang mga kababayan.Kaya sa darating na laban kay miguel cotto sa nov.14 asahan ang mas mabilis, mas malakas at mas madiskarteng Manny "PACMAN" Pacquiao.

  • Erik 2 years ago
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    Who would think that typhoons would hit the Philippines this hard, and not just one, but now possibly three altogether. In hindsight, Mexico or Canada now sounds better.

  • LHSJR. 2 years ago
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    Brad,
    I don't know if you knew this. Most Filipinos believe in the " Kapalit ". It is like, you suffer for something but you get something good in return.I'm not saying that Manny Pacquiao is the " chosen one ". But every time he fights and wins, there is always a catastrophe that happens in the Philippines.Weird but true.

  • Erik 2 years ago
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    Who would think that typhoons would hit the Philippines this hard, and not just one, but now possibly three altogether. In hindsight, Mexico or Canada now sounds better.

  • isidro 2 years ago
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    Back here if bad things happened a lot good things happen simultaneously with it.No worry(ies) ,everything will be done in GOD's will and time;nobody will be spared.So far so good for Pacquiao's training.

  • Lanski 2 years ago
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    I DO BELEIVE THEY'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING.. IF NOT, YOU CAN HEAR IT FROM COACH ROACH IN THE FIRST PLACE! NOT FROM THIS COMMENTATORS OR WRITERS, THEY'RE NOT THE ONE WHOS TRAINING PAC AFTERALL, BUT I KNOW THEY ARE IN BIG CONCERN, IF YOU'RE A REAL PACFAN, BELEIVE AND PRAY FOR HIM HIM! THAT'S THE BEST THING, COZ HES GOING TO BRING US ANOTHER GREAT HISTORY IN NOV. 14.. FOR SURE!

  • Lanski 2 years ago
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    ALL THIS BAD THINGS HAPPENING IN MY COUNTRY RIGHT NOW IS SERVE AS A BIG BOOST TO PAC EAGERNESS TO TRAIN HARDER THAN EVER BEFORE.. HE WILL LIFT OUR SPIRITS ONCE AGAIN SO HIGH DESPITE THE FACT THAT WE'RE HAVING SO MUCH TROUBLE RIGHT NOW FROM OUR MOTHER NATURE... THE'RE WILL BE A GREAT GIFT OF GOD AFTER ALL THIS HARDTIMES RIGHT NOW, WE ARE STILL BLESSED COZ WE'RE FILIPINOS WHATEVER YOU THINK WE ARE! LONG LIVE THE P4P KING, THE PACMAN!

  • jam 2 years ago
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    maybe a treadmill is better choice than swimming at this point. a novice swimmer can not do 30, 50, or 100 laps a day. manny just dont have the time to learn and adjust to swimming. JUST MY OPINION

  • pac fan: 2 years ago
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    brad i agree with you and to others regarding packing things out etc, etc.. but more than a week now we have a good weather here in phils.
    i think pacman will catch up with his training schedules and will be in 101 percent when nov.14 comes.
    just like the popular video game -pacman will swallow every donuts in front of him..
    he will eat cotto alive..
    VIVA PACMAN!!

  • bolo punch 2 years ago
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    there were just too many distractions, and these could have been avoided had the training been done elsewhere outside the US. also, perhaps starting training earlier could have given team pacquiao more time to make the necessary adjustments instead of having to work within a very tight sked which they are in right now. a week or two would have made some difference.

  • Troen Gonzales 2 years ago
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    yes, a bad idea to the bone. this is one of the most chaotic training camps ever.

  • ILOVEAMERICA 2 years ago
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    NO REMATCH PACMAN...YOU BETTER WIN THIS OR I'LL BE THE ONE TO WHUP YOUR ASS !!!

  • manilamaniamaniac 2 years ago
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    again, so disgusted with the current training camp

  • Kurap 2 years ago
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    These "fans" pray for Pacquiao to lose just so they can trumpet how right they are and how stupid Manny is. With fans like these, who needs haters?

  • Kurap 2 years ago
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    The only "lesson" that Manny will learn if he should lose is how disloyal and balimbing these fickle fans are and how undeserving of all the pride he has given them.

  • EXODUS 2 years ago
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    THIS ALWAYS HAPPEN EVERYTIME PACQUAIO HAVE FIGHT.CALM DOWN GUYS,IF YOU KNOW YOUR FIGHTER AND YOU TRUST HIM,WHY NEED WORRY?

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