For some reason or another, Atheists feel that they need to beat you over the head with their view of creation, laws, the Bible, God, the Constitution and more. They consistently tell Christians that they are wrong! They simply must always be right! Atheists can’t see the forest for the trees. Now I’m not saying that they are dumb, but they do seem have an ill adjusted logic about ‘faith’.
Atheists, agnostics and other non-believers will always seem to quote science, scientists, NASA and others. That is a significant problem for Atheists. Science, scientists, NASA (a scientific organization funded by the U.S. Taxpayer) have been wrong on numerous occasions. Just look at how NASA has changed their view of global warming several times in the last few years. Science is not perfect, however the Bible is.
Using scientific theory to disprove the Bible is like using gasoline to put out a fire. The reverse of that would be using the Bible to prove the existence of UFO’s, it can’t be done! By using scientific theory to disprove the Bible and Christianity, they only create more questions for themselves, but they would never admit that.
The Bible is perfect because it is the divinely inspired, true and infallible word of God, not science. As an Evangelical Christian, the Bible is ‘the’ source of explanatory information about all of the things that the Atheist crowd attempts to debunk with scientific theory.
Now don’t get me wrong, there are many things that science, scientists and yes, even NASA have discovered which have helped mankind, but Atheists seem to have a mental block about the reality of the real truth about who is/was responsible for even their own individual existence. However, they are more than willing to put their trust in some guy named ‘Charlie’ Darwin who just happened to write a book titled “On the Origin of Species” or what is commonly knows as the Theory of Evolution 150 years ago this year.
Atheists have no problem putting their full trust in the fact that we all descended from a common ancestor, which is what Darwin’s book was really about. Even though there is no proof to this date, that he was correct 150 years ago, when labs and science were in their infancy; they (Atheists) ‘believe’ he was right, but just cannot ‘believe’ the Bible!
The Bible is filled with witnesses to the events described in it. Additionally, it is filled with witnesses to prophecy; both to prophecy as it was being fulfilled, as well as witnessing the Prophet giving the message, but Atheists are not willing to believe, it’s just a fairy tail to them.
Atheists for some reason believe that out of chaos comes order; i.e. the “Big Bang theory”, and that out of that chaos came the Universe as we know it. Logical folks understand that out of chaos comes even more chaos. All one has to do to see order in the Universe is to go the NASA’s Hubble Telescope Gallery web site and look at their space Gallery! It’s amazing. The beauty and order of God’s creation is overwhelming. Yes, that is one of the great accomplishments of NASA.
The understanding of true Christianity is something that Atheists will never grasp until that proverbial light comes on. Prayerfully, that proverbial light comes on in time!
You see, it’s all about FAITH, it’s not about science, scientists, evolution, Darwin, NASA or anything else; it’s about faith! If you’re an Atheist, you don’t have faith except that false faith you put in science. So you wouldn’t believe what you read in the Bible. However, a person who reads the Bible and has that faith, will always know the Bible to be accurate.
I truly believe that Atheists have good intentions, but they should remember this old saying; “The road to Hell is paved with good intentions”.
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There are several versions of the Bible, Jake. Which one is perfect?
So you know the Bible is true because you have faith that it's true?
Can't argue with that logic...
[By using scientific theory to disprove the Bible and Christianity, they only create more questions for themselves, but they would never admit that.]
We’d never admit it, because that’s not what science is trying to do. Science is the study of NATURAL processes. God is a SUPERNATURAL concept.
[Atheists for some reason believe that out of chaos comes order; i.e. the “Big Bang theory”, and that out of that chaos came the Universe as we know it.]
And that reason is---evidence. Evidence, Jake. Red-shifted light. Cosmic Background
Radiation. Look it up, Jake. I recommend the book “The Big Bang” by Simon Singh.
[Logical folks understand that out of chaos comes even more chaos.]
Except when it doesn’t. Like the formation of ice crystals when water freezes, for example.
There's just... there's just too much wrong... to address... can't... deal...
I'm not an atheist, Jake, but rather a devout Roman Catholic, and I firmly believe in both evolution / natural selection and the Big Bang Theory. Being a Christian does not require that you bury your head in the sand on matters of science.
On 6 March, 2009, at a five-day Vatican conference on evolution Pope Benedict XVI affirmed that the world did not emerge out of chaos but was intentionally created by 'the First Being.' In his address, Benedict said there was 'no opposition between faith's understanding of creation and the evidence of the empirical sciences.' Pope John Paul II, whom Benedict quoted in his address, had said the following on 22 October 1996 to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences:
'In his encyclical Humani Generis (1950), my predecessor Pius XII has already affirmed that there is no conflict between evolution and the doctrine of the faith regarding man and his vocation, provided that we do not lose sight of certain fixed points ... Today, more than a half- century after the appearance of that encyclical, some new findings lead us toward the recognition of evolution as more than a hypothesis. In fact it is remarkable that this theory has had progressively greater influence on the spirit of researchers, f
'...In fact it is remarkable that this theory has had progressively greater influence on the spirit of researchers, following a series of discoveries in different scholarly discip- lines. The convergence in the results of these independent studies - which was neither planned nor sought - constitutes in itself a significant argument in favour of the theory.'
"The Bible is perfect because it is the divinely inspired, true and infallible word of God, not science."
So if the Bible says that insects have only four legs and that you can breed animals with stripes by putting sticks in their watering trough, it must be true. And if the Bible says two things that are contradictory, they must both be infallibly true.
"For some reason or another, Atheists feel that they need to beat you over the head with their view of creation, laws, the Bible, God, the Constitution and more."
Do you think that maybe this could be because some Christians, in violation of the Constitution, attempt to use the power of government to force their religious views on others?
Wow Jake, I feel embarrassed for you.
It sounds a lot better, and makes a lot more sense, like this:
[For some reason or another, Christians feel that they need to beat you over the head with their view of creation, laws, the Bible, God, the Constitution and more. They consistently tell Non-Christians that they are wrong! They simply must always be right! Christians can’t see the forest for the trees. Now I’m not saying that they are ignorant, but they do seem to be mis-informed, and have a misconception about "superstition", I mean "faith".]
Hi Jake! :)
When those scientists go to school for 8 years, what is it exactly that you believe they're learning? I don't think simple faith-based repeats of their conclusions would take 8 years. It's probably a lot of stuff you don't know about, and that would include all the reasons and evidence collected which supports those (current) conclusions.
And, the changing of those conclusions over time is a strength - one that dogmatic faith lacks.
Thanks for mentioning that you believe atheists have good intentions. Like theists I'm sure many do, and I think you do too friend.
By the way, evolution has nothing to do with atheism or theism - it's simply irrelevant to the matter, proving or disproving neither.
Take care :)
Sincerely,
DT Strain
Houston Humanist Examiner
Science is wrong because it always changes ?!?!?!?
HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHA.
Then microchips shouldn't be able to function,
because Vacuum tubes are right.
quote...
"Atheists, agnostics and other non-believers will always seem to quote science, scientists, NASA and others. That is a significant problem for Atheists. Science, scientists, NASA (a scientific organization funded by the U.S. Taxpayer) have been wrong on numerous occasions."
oh my god
I think Jake has his cowboy hat on backwards.
Most of the statements he has made are similar to what he learned in Sunday school. And it seems he hasn't progressed much from there. It's because of people like Jake that there are so many people who don't require evidence before opening their mouths. This guy is a role model for stupidity. We can only hope that these types of people will eventually die off so we can progress into the future and not into the dark ages.
there is no evidence so far to disprove evolution. none at all. besides your book. whis is not historical fact. it seems you are relying on a book written in a time of which doctors and demons were believed to walk the earth. how much evidence will it take for you people to accept that you might be wrong.
"For some reason or another, Atheists feel that they need to beat you over the head with their view of creation, laws, the Bible, God, the Constitution and more." This is true. The "reason or other" is experience. And history. Ever heard of it, Jake? Maybe you should learn about it sometime, and the way that believers have treated nonbelievers for the past several thousand years. Now we have found our voice. Good luck shutting us up.
wut? What? WHAT??!!
*steam comes out of my ears*
oh, i get it now. (poe's law - poe's law - poe's law i'll remember it next time)
LOL! You got me again Jake! You had me goin' there for awhile. Keep it up Sparky, I'm showin' this to all my atheist friends. They'll get a kick out of it too.
The Koran is perfect because it is the divinely inspired, true and infallible word of God. Actually, Divine truth is only in the Bible... however, you must add on the Book of Mormon (otherwise the Bible is incomplete).
RE: Omar;
Oh sure, as soon as you convince me that the Mormon's are right about Jesus being the half brother of Satan! It says it on their website! Don't believe it? See for yourself.
lol, this article is pathetic, Bible is absolute truth?
why is there several creation stories in the bible? which 1 is real? there are passages allowing slavery in the bible, are you following it? there are passages allowing you to sell your daughter? is that right?
there are billions of inconsistencies in the bible.
The bible explains everything? it creates absolutely nothing, with out science you would still think the sun reovles around the earth, go get educated please old man, do some research.
Aha! I’m starting to get it. Is this your argument?:
Mormons are wrong because they base their beliefs on ‘faith,’ whiles evangelical Christians need evidence that Mormons are right.
Atheists/agnostics are wrong because they don’t have faith and require evidence.
However, evangelical Christians are right because they have a faith that does not require any evidence (unlike those Mormons, Muslims and other groups with their allegedly divinely inspired books that are clearly wrong due to a lack of evidence).
Is that roughly what you are saying?
Jake, I always like your installments of the athesism vs christianity topic :) Gives me such humor to watch the atheists get their synthetic panties in a bunch...hehe.
Hey, just noticed that Scientology is advertising on this page. I wonder of they are deliberately targeting the credulous?
You did this on purpose, didn't you, Jake?
Come on admit it. This article is a joke isn't it? No-one is that thick.
[Jake, I always like your installments of the athesism vs christianity topic :) Gives me such humor to watch the atheists get their synthetic panties in a bunch...hehe.]
How very Christian of you.
To all of you christians and religious infidels, why after a near plane crash do all of you say "God saved them" but after a plane CRASH that kills everyone you don't say "God murdered them all"????? You know what, ask Jesus tonight when you lay your head down, I'm sure you all will make something up in your head and say Jesus explained it all, hahahaha
as an atheist (no capitalization by the way Jake) the only 'faith' I have, is the faith that Jake has no idea what he's talking about.
[to paraphrase] The universe is beautiful so God must have made it.
That's one of the worst arguments for god I've ever heard.
more... ozatheist.wordpress.com/2009/06/16/atheism-v-christianity/
That was a valiant attempt at humour, but repetitious slapstick of this sort grew stale a long time ago. Still LOLLing, however, but mostly at the author's misunderstandings than his originality.
As a Pagan this whole thing is humorous
DEAR FRIENDS,TO UNDERSTAND GOD AND THE GOODNESS
YOU WILL HAVE TO THINK REAL DEEP & FEEL
THAT ALL YOUR SINS HAVE BEEN FORGIVEN
ASK GOD NOT TO LET U REPEAT IT AGAIN
THEN READ THE BIBLE AND FEEL THE DIFFERENCE
Turn about is fair play. What's the matter? Can't stand the heat? I'm tired of being told that I'm going to burn in Hell. Christians have scared my child!!! Maybe if the Christians would shut up, then so would the atheists. Oh bTW Joe Amerikan... An agnostic is not an atheist. Agnostic means you simply don't know. All I know is that Christianity has been the cause of more deaths then all diseases combined. I think you could even throw in Natural Disasters. In the bible alone, "god" kills 2,391,421 people. Now add in all the wars since that have been fought. And whether you wanna believe it or not, the Iraq war is all about Christians vs. Muslims. Religion is a mental disorder... The churches are simply legalized slavery. Don't believe that then I urge you to stop paying tithe at your church and see what happens! Google ZEITGEIST, watch the two movies, if you want the absolute truth.
Kenny,
Your comments appear to be the ravings of a misguided and misinformed individual. Also, one who makes up stats as you go and are apparently an atheist.
Kenny,
God is the only way to eternal life. Think about these questions. Where will you spend eternity? Where will your children spend eternity?
The bible teaches us that without the wisdom and discernment that comes from the Holy Spirit people will not be able to understand. To them it will be jibberish! Why argue with them. Until they except Jesus as their Savior and Lord they cannot understand!!
Stop oppressing us and we'll stop complaining about you oppressing us.
Kenny,
You say "I'm tired of being told that I'm going to burn in Hell." What a wus comment. If you really believe whatever you believe, how could this bother you... poor little baby. If you have no "cajones" for this type of discussion, then go away.
You also say "Christians have scared my child!!!" Man dude, get a backbone. If you have any logic you should be able to train you kids up to your line of thought. You are such a wimp! I feel sorry for your children... I really do.
Psa 14:1 The fool has said in his heart, There is no God!
Pro 17:21 He who fathers a fool does it to his sorrow; the father of a fool has no joy.
This is a much better article if you replace the word Atheist with Christians, Christian with Scientist, Bible with Peer reviewed scientific papers, etc etc. It makes a lot more sense, and its quite funny that by doing so, you don't notice its fundamentalist origin. I'm sick of all these weak-faithed Christians who belief is to shallow and superficial to tolerate solid scientific principles whose origin is, logically, the divine. If you truly love an believe in god, you wouldn't be afraid of science.
Adam,
Looks to me like you are caught up in the stench of the "middle ground" concerning your Christianity.
You are using a "cloaking" technique; disguising your lack of faith in God by wrapping yourself as a respecter of Science and trying to come across as some "giant" in your understanding of Christianity.
Please... If you had any understanding and I do mean ANY "fundamental" understanding of the Bible, you would not have taken the position you took. Your God is "science." Admit it.
Define or give one example of "solid scientific principles" that Christians are afraid of... go ahead, make my day. :)
Javier, don't make yourself look the fool.
Cosidering how many times religon has had to morph itself to adapt to the current time period should have thrown up a couple of red flags. Think for yourself for once.
Religon will die out in the next hundred years.
Well, well... Brian, I must be "lucky" today to get such a response, I did not know you were "morphing" out of your slimey rock. You were probably meditating with your monkey daddy and happened on this discussion by accident or because you saw the light of the "big bang". Sound logic? Read on...
You were spontaneously generated from a rock,
a monkey is your daddy and a fish is your cousin. Nice ancestry... Look in the mirror, if you see someone looking back, you've found the problem.
I would read to you scripture but you would scorn it. Therefore, I will say what to you what Jesus says to the religious and the worldly; paraphrased: "You are confused seeing that you do not know the Scriptures nor the power of God."
Educate yourself in more than just the worship of yourself... you make a very, very poor god.
Seeing that you don't know god nor the scriptures I won't "bore" you with th
You ignorance must be bliss.
John,
Be clear. Take a side... are you commenting negative/positive on the article or the comments? You must be a politician.
Javier says "If you have any logic you should be able to train you kids up to your line of thought".
What a F'd up thing to say. no matter what your beliefs are children are not your billboard to advertise you brand of insanity. this goes for everyone. All you should do is teach them to think for them self.
If you had any sense of morality you'd already know this, but I'm guessing your parents didn't have enough logic to train you.
I find it perplexing how Christians will often quote The Bible and cite it as credible evidence. The Bible gone through so many different translations and changes that if there was one thing on Earth not to trust, it would be The Bible. Quoting The Bible to prove a point in science is like quoting The Origin of Species to prove a point in advanced metaphysics.
Gary says: "How very Christian of you."
in response to my posting this: [Jake, I always like your installments of the athesism vs christianity topic :) Gives me such humor to watch the atheists get their synthetic panties in a bunch...hehe.]
Gary...what made you think I was a Christian? How presumptuous of YOU. But, I am someone who is so tired of the false beliefs that all Christians should just shut their mouths, lay down and take it (or should I say, watch it being taken away). I know! How disappointing, eh?
Javier you moron.
If there is anything worse than a Christian who ignores all evidence its a Christian who takes it upon himself to attack innocent people's beliefs. I can't believe you would use the bible to justify attacking anyone like that. This shows just the kind of baloney the bible feeds suckers like you!
I also like how Jake says:
"For some reason or another, Atheists feel that they need to beat you over the head with their view of creation, laws, the Bible, God, the Constitution and more."
Atheists are the ones who do that huh??
Have you ever seen a door-to-door atheist trying to shove his beliefs down your throat?
Think about it!
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Gary...what made you think I was a Christian? How presumptuous of YOU. But, I am someone who is so tired of the false beliefs that all Christians should just shut their mouths, lay down and take it (or should I say, watch it being taken away). I know! How disappointing, eh?]
I've followed your postings. I would not presume something of that magnitude without some evidence, but if the title offends you, I'm sorry.
All the same, taking delight in chaos is quite objectionable, whichever moral code you subscribe to. Given your support from the last post, I think I was correct in my deduction, and the same problem applies--taking delight in others' misfortune.
If that's not the antithesis of Christianity, I don't know what is. And if this mere comment offends your pride, why, we have a lot a lot of work to do.
Yes, you're right: it's about faith. Atheists have faith in the universe and humanity as they are.
Christians are so fearful that they need to invent fables and father figures in order to make sense of it all.
Hey Javier:
Matthew 5:22
Whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Tsk tsk.
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