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Society has the need, the right, and the obligation to decide what is legal deciding which practices and actions to outlaw, determined by whether they will destroy the safety and harmony of the community. Members also have the right to change the laws and/or the consequences of violations of the law - a legitimate part of the process of the rule-of-law.
The government’s system of protection of people, regarding drug use (FDA), was necessary. Understanding that the gateway theory is legitimate, and it is correct that marijuana use leads to other and harder drugs, society must anticipate what will bring about its’ demise.
In that light, see the included pictures as historical evidence of what followed the “snake oil medicines.”
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Admittedly, there are systemic problems, regarding the FDA system (corporate and other lobbying interests), but does that warrant its destruction?
Hedonists, pursuing their lusts, often step over the lines … not only of propriety, but of legality as well, becoming criminals.
Pedophilia, as well as drug use are examples of this. Society has determined that these practices are so destructive that they must remain illegal, yet there are groups that disagree; both groups have organized and also attempted to change the laws by hiring lobbyists in D.C.
One issue, obviously more repugnant, yet in ways, pedophilia and the pro-legalization movement are not so different. Both harm the innocent and those unable to foresee the ramifications of their actions.
Pro-legalization activists are not willing to wait for the science; if marijuana were found to be medicinal, it should be synthesized, (dosage regulated) and issued as a pharmaceutical, NOT smoked!
Changing the law and making marijuana legal, as long as it’s within the system, would be legitimate. The deep-pockets supporters, the financiers of the legalization movement, have contributed to an un-even playing field, but that too is an inherent systemic problem of freedom and democracy. Circumventing the law, which is what they are facilitating, is not legitimate! Ballot measures subvert the checks and balances built into our system of government.
Legalizers have aligned themselves with, and obligate themselves to these deep-pockets individuals whose intent should be questionable; they’ve accepted their help w/o looking at the long term, unintended consequences.
They whine about the consequences of the law, yet one of these deep-pockets men’s business trains candidates for police officers, prison guards, even DEA agents, yet the legalizers' focus is so myopic, they cannot see the irony!
Another of this same group, the group I call ‘the legalizer cartel’, … his intent is well stated in his book. He wants to first control the market of illicit drugs, break the drug cartels, and then limit their use – also, not exactly what they expected out of associates, however, foresight has never been one of hedonism’s strong points.
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English: "Changing the law and making marijuana legal, as long as it’s within the system, would be legitimate."
That's exactly what DPA, NORML, MPP, etc. are doing, they are working "within the system" to re-legalize cannabis.
English: "Ballot measures subvert the checks and balances built into our system of government."
Ballot measures are part of the legal framework in the states that have them. You have a beef with direct democracy or plebiscites? Fine, but that's really a separate issue from medical marijuana.
And anyway, increasingly, states like Rhode Island, Maryland, etc. have changed their laws to allow medical marijuana through the legislature, no ballot measure used.
It never ceases to amaze me how prohibitionists condemn marijuana users for simply wanting to return freedoms all Americans once shared. Pot smokers are damned if they do try to change the laws, and damned if they don't try to change the laws.
[from my book, Drug War Propaganda cafepress.com/drugpropaganda2 p.34]
Columnist A M Rosenthal warns of the legalizers, "the legalizers have convinced more and more columnists and editorial writers. They have won state plebiscites that used tricky, concealing language to make more narcotics available for 'medicinal' purposes," because of "their hatred for the drug war, out of whatever cradle trauma."[231]
Staunch advocates of prohibition denounce the legalizers. Prohibitionists are "trying to contain a scourge that is costing the nation . . . hundreds of thousands of lost and decimated lives" thus, prohibitionists say, "quit letting legalizer propaganda undermine prevention efforts."[232] ...
Prohibitionists argue that allowing disagreeable talk is dangerous. With such talk, legalizers are said to "hack away at the very foundation of the struggle against drugs"; with their talk they are "destroying the law enforcement that is essential to effective therapy."[234]
John..
cannabis is not a gateway substance, prohibition is, if milk was illegal street dealers would sell heroin and milk and when their no milk you buy heroin.
cannabis is a natural plant that grows anywhere/everywhere and needs not to be synthesized so drug companies can make billions from it for no reason.
its a plant that works best in its natural state.
it has no toxic chemicals in its make up and can not hurt or kill you.
and how or why would you relate cannabis smoking to pedophilia! their is no victim with smoking cannabis your showing your psychosis induced prohibitionist lying stance..
you've no factual/historical proof to back up your wild and devastatingly embarrassing lies
are the alcohol/pharmaceutical companies giving you money to spread miss-information and lies i wonder?
or do you just sit and masturbate to the thought of all the sick/ill people your lying to about cannabis.
did you know that 99% of pedophiles support cannabis prohibition.
The DEA and police chiefs across the country are given the job of protecting the prohibition from EVER being repealed.
The ONDCP itself is required by law to "take such actions as necessary to oppose any attempt to legalize" marijuana. Just read the Reauthorization Act (which is what controls the ONDCP) and you'll see the requirement at sec.704 (b)12, under the Responsibilities of the Director.
Doesn't that sound really weird to you? ..that the same organizations in charge of enforcing the law are also responsible for preventing it from ever being repealed or changed?
That's why law enforcement ALWAYS opposes every attempt to end the prohibition. But in protecting the laws that they also enforce they're put into a clear conflict of interest.
We have no way of knowing whether they act to protect society or their jobs!
pedophilia.....is more active in the Church and Social Services programs of this country that in the marijuana culture. John your own augments and the case you lay out serve to strengthen the Marijuana Movement.
Interesting that you are okay with the medical benefits of cannabis as long as it comes in pill form.
Asprin has killed more people than cannabis.
“Ballot measures subvert the checks and balances built into our system of government.” John, it’s Of the People, By the People, For the People.
John letting a law enforcement agency make assertions about drugs is akin to a female going to a automobile mechanic for their yearly.
And John, I have a copy of the above study and can interpret it for you since it is pretty complicated and full of that dogma (LOL) known as science. In time there will be those held to account for this genocide, mark my words Jack.
“Pro-legalization activists are not willing to wait for the science; if marijuana were found to be medicinal, it should be synthesized, (dosage regulated) and issued as a pharmaceutical, NOT smoked!”
We have science, too bad the DEAth, you know, non-medical “professionals” hold the key to drugs, this stymies research in this country. The whole plant cannot be synthesized, and there in lies the problem, no patents. Again I point you to the three points you keep avoiding:
1. If cannabis has no medicinal value then what is this: US Patent 6630507 - Cannabinoids as antioxidants and neuroprotectants; issues October 7, 2003.
2. Natural THC with the empirical formula C-21 H-30 O-2 bad (I) but synthetic THC with the empirical formula C-21 H-30 O-2 good (III).
3. Cannabinoid Action Induces Autophagy-Mediated Cell Death Through Stimulation of ER Stress in Human Glioma Cells
Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology I, School of Biology, Complutense University, Madrid, Spain.
“Pedophilia, as well as drug use are examples of this.” Fear mongering again John? Are you that brainwashed? A pedophile versus a drug user; you’re comparing someone raping a child to someone who uses drugs? This is like comparing apples and apes. See John, only a depraved government would invent a crime one commits against themselves. A crime for ingesting a plant; since people go to jail for this, then pedophiles should be shot. There is something seriously wrong with you.
“both groups have organized and also attempted to change the laws by hiring lobbyists in D.C.” For real John, the pedophilia lobby? What about the three lobbies that are the largest peddlers of poisons? Did you conveniently forget about them?
This is like fishing in a barrel.
John said: "Ballot measures subvert the checks and balances built into our system of government."
This statement is pretty profound in its implications. Do you not like citizens voting on initiatives. That is the society we live in John. If the system is flawed, it may be that some states have standards that are too lax in order to get a ballot voted on by the people.
From the strength of that statement however, it sounds as if you are taking issue with the ballot measure as a legitimate expression of democracy. You really are a die-hard fundamentalist for your cause that. In that sentence you said you would rather suspend a particular liberty that we as Americans enjoy...the ability to organize and get initiatives to be decided upon in a popular election within the voting booth.
Is your new found contempt for democracy due to the fact that almost half of Americans support legalizing marijuana? I guess that would be frightening for a fundamentalist.
Wow John. This is the biggest crock of bs yet. Comparing pedophilia to marijuana use? Are you f'n kidding me? I don't think I can even read your bs anymore.. this is way over the top.
When you go to bed tonight, ask yourself this: Are you going to die happy knowing you were hated by more people than liked? Are you content making a jackass out of yourself and going down in history as a racist arrogant and angry old man?
John English would rather have your children locked up in prison and raped, where they still can get heroin,home-made alcohol and other serious illicit drugs (as documented on Nat Geo and MSNBC) for experimenting with substances he has tried himself. This is what we call a hypocrit. What if that would have happened to you John? You are by no means are a celebrity and would have been locked up and forgotten about like many others, having your life changed forever. Its not your life you are ruining with your policy, so why do you care what happens to them?
I can prove John is a racist too. Obviously he has something against pot smoking. Pot smoking he relates to crime. Crime he relates to as the lower class. Lower class equals mostly minorities, and minorities equals anyone else but his white ass. Essentially he wants more control over the lives of the average individual, forcing his religion and beliefs onto everyone else.
John english wants you to believe smoking pot makes you a lazy psychotic retard who kicks women in the stomach, not joking, just read his last few articles.
Im sorry you got that brown frown devils weed. I got the Holy Smoke from God and its wonderful. You can hate all you want, your state obviously doesn't even agree with you. I hope you enjoy watching the US change for legalization in your last years. Just knowing you wasted the past 25 years of your life.. makes me grin :)
Here is John's logic and how he came to base his whole theory on life.
If Marijuana = bad
and bad = not good
then Marijuana = not good
Oh and the gateway "theory" (notice its called THEORY and not FACT) has been disproven.. so everything from your 3rd paragraph and beyond is a laughable matter anyways.
More lies and deceptions from John. I am really not surprised, without actual education on the matter he can't help himself.
John - The 'gateway theory' has already been debunked a LONG time ago. When are you going to acknowledge all of the responses to your lies? Care to provide ANY proof, or maybe a fact or two? How about sharing a legitimate study? You are a sad little man and should be absolutely ashamed that you are a pathological liar.
LMAO what a moron.
The only repugnet thing is this bs article without a shred of fact.
THis artilce is 100% rubbish written by a hack with no skill at all. What a pathetic excuse for a human.
John - Will you PLEASE respond to Aqueous Chemists repetitive challenge? I know there are some big words in there, such as autophagy, and neuroprotectant...not to mention the O-Chem symbols. I don't know what those things are either John, and I dont know how to read the O-Chem symbols. I feel pretty confident I could figure it all out though with a judicious application of a dictionary. (I would have to refer to someone else though for the O-Chem stuff).
You know what though? I am not the one that is being challenged! Hah! Plus, I have about a dozen tests to find out whether infinite series converge or not to memorize. The irony of it is that you are the one who daily repeats the mantra that legalizers don't like science. So why don't you put your money where your mouth is, and start addresing scientific challenges to your barrage of manic illogic.
The pedophilia / legalization comments barely deserve rebuttal. Arguing with someone who can't comprehend the difference between raping a child and smoking a joint is like teaching a pig to sing: it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
But I do like the old timey cocaine bottle. Yes cocaine was dispensed as medicine... as it is now. It's Schedule II; your doctor can get it for you, but not Schedule I 10% THC cannabis, but certainly Schedule III 100% THC Marinol.
The whole story loses the credibility only a 27-year-locksmith can bring to a drug policy debate when it mentions "the gateway theory is legitimate". You may as well start an article commemorating Monday's 40th anniversary of the moon landing with "Since the moon is made of green cheese..."
Keep ranting, John English. Your reefer mad hysteria does more to promote legalization than I think you realize.
Russ Belville
NORML Outreach Coordinator
stash.norml.org
WHAT A LOSER THIS GUY JOHN IS.
jOHN said "Pedophilia, as well as drug use are examples of this(hedonism). Society has determined that these practices are so destructive that they must remain illegal"
John hedonism Has another side the. side where you do not cause pain to yourself or others.
pedophillia does not fit into the catagory.
your sick and twisted
What an ugly puke. This senile old man compares marijuana to pedophilia?
This guy makes the Examiner look bad. He writes like an 8th grader and possesses no critical thinking skills.
John your deception and misinformation is shameful.
Ballot measures: Proposition 8 against gay marriage. This prop actually changed the CA constitution. Propositions can be voted on but then may be unconstitutional. 215 clashes with federal law and the court ruled that the federal law trumps the state law. The FDA regulates drugs and it should regulate marijuana, not state initiative. 215 is being violated by dispensaries which don't operate as cooperatives/collectives. Those advocating 215 sold it as compassionate for VERY SICK people, but it is being used to distribute pot to young healthy people. This is where pedophilia comparison comes in. This is the abuse of young people sexually. Medical pot as practiced in California abuses the young by encouraging substance abuse. It sends a message that marijuana is a medicine. Young people get a fly by night doctor's prescription to cure their imaginary illness, and then get high. They pass on the pot to younger underage people who can't get the cards.
Baker, D, Pryce, G, Giovannoni, G. and Thompson, AJ. “The therapeutic potential of cannabis.” The Lancet 2(5) 2003: 291-298.
Beaconsfield, D., Ginsburg, J., and Rainsbury, R. "Therapeutic potential of marihuana." New England Journal of Medicine 289(24) 1973: 1315.
Bhargave, H. "Potential therapeutic application of naturally occurring and synthetic cannabinoids." General Pharmacology 9 1978: 195-213.
Booth, William. "Santa Cruz Defies U.S. on Marijuana: City Officials Vow To Defend Medical Uses." Washington Post 18 Sept. 2002: A3+.
Breen, B. “The Cannabis Conundrum: Medical marijuana could be the next big thing in biotech, but not in the United States.” Fast Company. 5 February 2004. 5 pp.
Callahan, Rick. "Scientists edge closer to understanding how marijuana kills pain." Associated Press 05 Oct. 1998.
Campbell, FA, Tramer, MR, Carroll, D, Reynolds, DJ, Moore, RA, McQuay, HJ. “Are cannabinoids an effective and safe treatment option in the management of pain? A qualitative systemat
Wrong! State Laws TRUMP Federal laws. The U.S. was created as individual states with their own laws to be able to legally try new things without the fear of arrest. Where have you been, haven't you heard what Eric Holder said regarding the Obama Admin and states with Medical Marijuana laws? No one has ever been hurt by marijuana except by brutal police officers.
Dude, how drunk were you when you thought up this concept last night? This should be proof that alcohol is far worse than pot. Why do you try to insult people? You offer no help, just crude remarks. You are very sick.. after reading this I am quite disgusted by you.
When you are waist deep in shiit already, I would stop digging and start looking for a way out.
Mr. English, as a Medical Marijuana patient and a supporter of the Constitution, I invite, nay, I dare you to Google the video, "American.Drug.War.The.Last.White.Hope" and watch it to learn about how American Marijuana law came into existence.
First things first - I went back and found the post that I accused you of deleting. So I extend my apologies to you for accusing you of deleting it, and subsequently accusing you of of being a liar.
Secondly - Hoo Boy! Did you see all those science journals talking about the therapeutic benefits of marijuana that that one guy left? Hmmmm, I wonder if you will try to debunk that science. You come in here and almost daily suspend logic and reason with the most strained connect the dot theories (i.e. connecting marijuana use to pedophelia...what can even be said about that?)
Then you accuse us of not being too partial to science...which is an evident load of ringworm infested dung. There are guys all the time posting peer reviewed scientific matieral. So I am waiting for you to step up to the plate and address the science dude.
...and by the way, you should learn a little bit about our constitution. If you read the tenth amendment carefully...or even casually, you will find that powers that are not explicitly given to the federal government are by default supposed to be state matters.
That is why federal raids of marijuana clinics should be illegal. Americans however, have become pretty numbed to the growing power of the federal government, and so no-one seems to care about amendments other than the first couple. By that token, if a state like CA legalized marijuana, by virtue of the U.S. constitution, the feds really do need to stay the f...out.
So now NORML is getting into the act. So Russ, what's your credibility? The locksmith seems to be a recovering addict. He has been there, done that. Experience doesn't count in your book? NORML as an advocacy group is biased by definition. So don't be the pot calling the kettle black. NORML says it doesn't advocate pot use until 20, but does it really think that kids aren't influenced by its website/ads? You bet they are! Given that a large proportion of users are under age (use peaks at 20), its advertising is similar to undercover marketing by tobacco companies (e.g. quoting Mayor of NY as enjoying pot on a billboard). If pot is not dangerous, then why shouldn't it be used by kids? The candies in the pot "pharmacy" look so appealing, so why not? 90% of tobacco smokers start underage. If kids don't start smoking pot by 20, they likely won't start, and then where would NORML be? Don't say legal pot will stop underage smoking--it hasn't stopped drinking by teens.
Dave: "90% of tobacco smokers start underage. If kids don't start smoking pot by 20, they likely won't start, and then where would NORML be? Don't say legal pot will stop underage smoking--it hasn't stopped drinking by teens." Do you advocate the prohibition of alcohol and tobacco? This is a simple yes/no question.
Moreover, if legalizing pot will stop underage smoking (which we know it won't), then why not legalize cocaine and heroin and meth or forget about prescriptions--just sell everything OTC? By the way, how much money does NORML devote to stopping kids from smoking pot? How do you explain why pot is harmful to kids and why they should avoid it until they are adults? And what makes it safe for adults to use if it is harmful for kids? How many underage kids use your website on a daily basis? What about all the other websites out there that encourage pot use among kids? How many kids are going to wait until they are 21 to start their "responsible use"?
When you consider all the marketing to kids of pot, it's kind of like child abuse. Yes, you can get kids taken away if you give them pot. Can you defend giving kids pot? Want to compare it to pedophilia?
You have kids, Russ? What do you tell them? I'd really like to know.
Dave is gets paid by the view.
And it looks like he's found a way to really rack up the view: the Jerry Springer school of journalism.
Dave,
Let me put it this way to you. Would you rather have people buy the pot from their friend/dealer, or from a pharmacy/store? Would you rather get some moonshine from who knows where or some brand name liquor? Its the same thing and its going to happen one way or the other.
I guarantee store bought Marijuana is going to be healthier than some street bought, uncared for, old? pot from Mexico. The majority of marijuana in the United States being used is of much poorer condition than it can be.
This will also make it illegal to sell/give a minor, just like alcohol or tobacco and much easier regulated. Any adult should act responsible, hence them being an adult. Is this going to stop use by minors completely? No, but its better than our policy and it will completely floor the black market of Marijuana, allowing us to spend our resources to assist in more serious matters and boosting our economy with one of the largest cash crop in the US & world.
This is not about alcohol or tobacco. I don't advocate either, and no one is claiming they are safe. Marijuana is currently illegal. It is harder, not easier to make something illegal or control the damage once it is legalized. Currently we've been trying to restrict tobacco use but 60 million people still smoke, even knowing the risks. Cocaine and meth and heroin are also illegal. Do you advocate legalizing them too? I know you cannot encompass the thought that marijuana is harmful, but I believe it to be so from seeing the effects on people I know and from researching the studies, statistics, etc.
The UK downgraded cannabis to class C but after seeing damage caused by cannabis to young people upgraded it to B again. Sweden has a very strict drug policy which works fairly well. Not everyone is rushing to legalize cannabis.
palmspringsbum,
Seriously, I think I am done reading here. I think they are posting more ads even.
Keep his crap on the NORML website, i'll just check out the highlights on there.
Goodbye examiner and John English, but thank you for the laughs. I'll keep looking for them on NORML
Dave: “The UK downgraded cannabis to class C but after seeing damage caused by cannabis to young people upgraded it to B again. Sweden has a very strict drug policy which works fairly well. Not everyone is rushing to legalize cannabis.” So the Feds had no influence on British policy? The Feds have no influence “global’ drug policy as a whole? It’s funny when we told The Netherlands what their drug policy should be, the DEAth was sent packing from the country. Didn’t we try and influence Portugal? Did that work? Has their drug policy strategy worked thus far?
Dave: “I know you cannot encompass the thought that marijuana is harmful, but I believe it to be so from seeing the effects on people I know and from researching the studies, statistics, etc.” I have never claimed it to be harmless, only less harmful than solvents and radiation. What are the titles, dates, publications, affiliations, etc. of these studies you researched? And as far as statistics go, Samuel Clemens said it best: “there are lies, damned lies, and statistics.”
Dave: “Cocaine and meth and heroin are also illegal. Do you advocate legalizing them too?” No, they have to be synthesized to achieve the desired product and independent, peer-reviewed research has duplicated the serious effects of these substances time and time again.
silly old man muttering away to yourself because you have no friends.. shame :.(
John, you can't stop it... It's going to happen. Keep posting this garbage so we can show the world how crazy you prohibition fans are.
Thanks!
Kevin
You compare drug users to pedophiles? You sure are starting to get desperate...
Dank says:
I have only read your recent articles which I obviously disagree with. I am learning more about you now, I did not know you used to be a "user" (but of what exactly?) Not everyone moves onto other things. The Gateway Theory has been disproven. I am sorry you could not control whatever addictions you have.
Alcoholism is a serious problem, more so than MJ. Alcoholism runs in my family, but I have self-control and a strong self-will and have not abused it. Not everyone is like you or has that addict mentallity which can't say no or has to get a better high then before.
Just because you could not control your usage does not give you a right for pushing your personal feelings and beliefs (or religion) onto everyone else. There are many people who live successful lives and smoke responsibly and are in great relations with their family still....
AMEN
Wow, the prohibitionist really get upset and grasp at unconventional associations when you question their preconceived notions. Prohibitionist like to live in a society where they are told what to do, how to do it, and when to get it done. Prohibitionists like the structure of a strict society. They have their morality, their self-righteousness, and want nothing more than to tell you what to do...since they like being told what to do so much it must be fun for you too. "It's the law" is their mantra. Logic fails them since anything other than strict obedience to the rule of law is considered hedonistic. Doesn't matter why the law was made or the hidden self-serving agenda of the law; The law must be obeyed at all costs or society will fail. Lemmings? Find some old newspapers and read the opinions from the days of alcohol prohibition. Very similar positions based on emotions and ill formed opinions typically based on fear. I guess prohibitionist live to conform and spread their fear.
Better start building your fallout shelter John. Marijuana will be re-legalized in the near future. The end is near. Oh no. Hide the women and children because it's going to be chaos.
Dave: "It is harder, not easier to make something illegal or control the damage once it is legalized."
Piffle. Once something is prohibited, government loses all control. Exactly as with Prohibition I, where alcohol was easily available to kids in unlicensed speakeasies, pot can be obtained by any high school student who wants it. Pot dealers don't ask for IDs.
At least with licensed bars, government gets some control. When something is prohibited, ironically, government loses all control.
In attempting to seize totalitarian control over our very minds (which prohibitionists will hotly deny, of course), in attempting to dictate to Americans what flowers are good and which are evil, politicians lose control.
Dave: "It is harder, not easier to make something illegal or control the damage once it is legalized."
False, and the Prohibition of alcohol is a great counterexample. Under Prohibition I, government lost all control over the liquor business.
Dave: "I know you cannot encompass the thought that..."
Translation: Only big-minded people like me can encompass such big thoughts.
Dave: "marijuana is harmful"
Translation: I hope no one will notice that's just an unsupported assertion.
Dave: "but I believe it to be so"
Translation: I hold The Faith, Brother.
Dave: "from seeing the effects on people I know"
Translation: Yeah, that's no anecdote - I called that a "controlled experiment".
Dave: "and from researching the studies, statistics, etc."
Translation: Trust me (you'll have to!) I have Science on my side which tells me potheads like you need to be jailed. To save the children. It is all scientific, so, sniff, let me repeat my assertions. If I repeat my assertions enough, you might believe me.
Dave: "marijuana is harmful"
I'm sure one can find a way to harm oneself with anything one can imagine, including water, air, or vacuum.
"there was no harm in the pot."
-- 2Kings 4:41c, KJV
"Society has the need, the right, and the obligation to decide what is legal, which practices and actions to outlaw, determined by whether they will destroy the safety and harmony of the community.".
You finally said something that is true. What is also UNDENIABLY true is that there are many laws which only exist (or existed) due to ignorance, fear and hatred of certain minorities of people. These people were different than you, they were female, black or Hispanic... they may prefer the company of their own gender, or they may like to have drink or smoke. These are ALL undeniably BAD LAWS, such as:
- Racial segregation
- Women's right to vote
- Ban on interracial marriage
- Sodomy laws
- Alchohol prohibition
- Marijuana prohibition
These laws ALL violate our human rights entitled to us by the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Therefore, I don't want to hear YOU whine when the prohibition against pot is repealed. Society is realizing prohibition is WRONG!
Something that I have been thinking about the last few days. What is your take on people smoking cigs in the car with their children? Do you think that causes any harm on the innocent? Your argument about how marijuana destroys society, how did this great nation get to where we are in the world today? Marijuana was legal before the 1930's and we didn't fall into chaos or cannibalism. Your point about IF marijuana was medicinal they would synthesise it. What's marinol? When did the FDA approve it? John you are a weak minded individual that cannot function unless completely sober, if at that. Why should the strong minded Americans suffer for you inadequacies? Oh wait we just think we are doing ok, with our full time job that we have held onto during this depression, our multi year degrees and our lovely families that we take on camping trips or enjoy BBQ's with the neighbours. I'm sorry I forgot that I should be on a couch somewhere playing with myself or as you put it with some kid. ???
MOre garbage with no supporting facts at all. Heres a proposaal....why dont you meet one of us "legaizers" for a debate? I can already hear your silence...........
Opnion is just that....without the true facts it means less than nothing (kinda like John English)
P.S. I will continue to post on all of this guys garbage as well as sending an email to the papers editors complaining about their journalistic integrity.
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