This week a tough new bill designed to aid local police and sheriffs arrest illegal aliens has advanced to the Arizona Senate. Wednesday's 4-3 party-line vote, with Republicans in the majority, sends the SB 1070 to the floor for a full vote. The move is the latest effort by Sen. Russell Pearce, R-Mesa, to force local communities to do more to find, detain, and arrest or deport, those who entered the country illegally. Much of the debate centered on allowing local authorities to stop and detain people suspected of being an illegal alien. The new bill would also contain the following provisions:
• Paving the way for law enforcement to conduct "sting" operations to find companies knowingly hiring undocumented workers.
• Making it a crime to stop a vehicle on the street to pick up someone to do a "day labor" job.
• Requiring police to make a "reasonable attempt" to determine the immigration status of anyone they contact officially if there is "reasonable suspicion" they are an illegal immigrant.
• Permitting anyone to sue a city, county or any government that has policies which limit immigration enforcement by their employees "to less than the full extent permitted by law."
John Thomas, lobbyist for the Arizona Association of Chiefs of Police, specifically questioned the section about officers being able to arrest suspected illegal immigrants.
"This requires federal immigration training," he said, referring to a section of federal laws which allows Immigration and Customs Enforcement to train local police to enforce federal immigration laws. That training includes being able to properly identify who is and is not in this country legally.
But Pearce said all police officers have "inherent authority" to enforce federal immigration laws, even without special training. He said the only time special training is required is after someone is arrested to determine their legal status. "Our communities need to do more to find, detain, and arrest or deport, those who entered the country illegally".
Arizona Republican legislators are trying to give local law enforcement more authority to stop and detain people that are suspected of being illegally present within the United States. For many years Federal immigration authorities have relied on local law enforcement to assist in identifying those that may be here illegally. It is only until recently that Sheriff Joe Arpaio has really brought the practice to a controversial head.
Under INA 287(g) of the Immigration and Nationality Act(INA) (that is,Section 133 of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act (IIRAIRA) of 1996 titled "Acceptance of State Services to Carry Out Immigration Enforcement"). The Act describes the inherent arrest authority that has been possessed and exercised by state and local police since the earliest days of federal immigration law.
It has long been widely recognized that state and local police possess the inherent authority to arrest aliens who have violated criminal provisions of the INA. Once the arrest is made, the peace officer must contact federal immigration authorities and transfer the alien into their custody within a reasonable period of time. There are not enough nor will there ever be enough immigration agents to properly locate and identify all of the illegal aliens present within the United States therefore local authorities have played a neccessary role in immigration enforcement.
Pearce said, though, he's not necessarily looking to fill Arizona jails with illegal immigrants. He said it gives discretion to law enforcement officers whether to seek prosecution or simply turn offenders over to ICE.
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Complete this article with a description of what sheriffs in OH, KY and IN are doing- they already have the power, use it!
Use the power! It's about time somebody started cracking down!
AZ State Sen. Russell Pearce is a hero. He's tried valiantly for years against then-Gov. Napolitano to bring AZ into the 21st Century instead of being a state that had stuck its head in the sand, Invasion-wise. He is absolutely right. What he doesn't say is the fact that Sanctuary Cities--which don't allow by EO--a local police officer to ask someone they're questioning what their legal status is. That is simply insane, and it's allowed illegal alien gangs in CA, AZ and elsewhere to flourish. Sanctuary City ordinances are against Federal law. IMHO, it's time for lawsuits against SF, L.A., N.Y. and other large U.S. cities to force them to remove Sanctuary status.
Lets get that BILL going anything it takes to stop the INVASION?And make more if NEEDED this is still AMERICA.They come LEGAL and ASSIMMALATE or go back to GOOD OLD MEXICO NOW.No more marches down AMERICAS mainstreets withMEXICO FLAGS and POLICE looking with blind eyes.JUST AN AMERICAN>CLEAROUT AMERICA NOW>
America's Dream team for Arizona politics n 2012: Governor Joe Arpaio, Attorney General Andrew Thomas, US Senator JD Haynworth, Russell Pierce MCSO Sheriff.
Please don't tell illegals to go home and apply correctly. No one who broke our immigration laws every deserves the chance to come legally. If our government really wanted them to leave, the President would demand they leave. Wouldn't cost a cent to go home the same way they got here. Anyone who didn't leave could be conscripted to build a double-layered wall, then would be deported. Trouble with the whole plan...illegal immigration is too profitable for too many. The American taxpayer is the loser.
I love SHERIFF ARPAIO!
Because I am a true Americans.
Seriously, what makes the Mexican illegal alien so special?
What do we owe Mexico, as our neighbor to the South, or the Mexican Nationals living in the United States of America Illegally? If we truly wanted to help the Worlds less fortunate, why do we not hold out the hand of Mercy to the Sudanese, Haitians, Moldavian, Central American’s, and those starving children of Chad these the huddled masses of these Nations are truly in need? All we hear about is the poor Mexican this, the poor Mexican that! Arizonians, have invested Millions upon Millions of dollars on its ELL program, there are at least 140,000 of these children in Arizona alone, GOD, knows how many are in California, and for what? Every other ethnic immigrant group managed to adapt to our American educational system. These children went on to become the intellect behind the Manhattan Project, NASA, and were instrumental in winning the Cold War! LOOK IT UP!!!
Mexico is a Democratic Republic and one of the richest countr
Beware people of AZ..Georgia has some of the strictest enforcement laws in the country thanks to the honorable Chip Rogers bill to cur tel the invasion. But the reluctance of county and city authorities to enforce the law has required the Georgia state Senate to pass a new law stating that its against the law not to enforce the law.
Can you believe that? I submit to the American people that there can't be that many profiting from this modern day slavery that can't be overcome by shear numbers of patriotic Americans who love their country and our heritage and language and refuse to see it transformed to third world status.
EVERYONE...PLEASE GET INVOLVED! Its what we have been missing.
Russell Pearce should go down in history as one of first - and longest lasting - elected officials with the courage to address illegal immigration. What is unfortunate is the fact that elected officials such as Pearce, Thomas and Arpaio must consistently overcome the resistance of corrupt politicians, anti-American organizations, such as LaRaza, LULAC, MEChA, etc., and religious/social service organizations that view illegal aliens as cash cows that work tirelessly to circumvent our laws - turning our country into a clone of the third world countries the illegal aliens left behind. Remove the illegal aliens along with the anti-American, corrupt politicians and organizations that aid and abet them.
Thebiglclownhunter, excellent post. I agree completely with you. If Americans cared enough, to get to the polls, to vote out every single traitor that keeps putting foreign nationals and Mexico ahead of their own nation, we could stop this crap cold. All of it. We are far too easy on the people that sit in Washington and betray us on a daily basis.
This is part 2 of Arizona's new laws.
Here is just some of what Part 1 includes...E-Verify---passed over 1 year ago. Proof of citizenship for ANY tax payer benefits. If an illegal tries to fraudulently get tax payer benefits--unemployment, state welfare, WIC, foodstamps, etc.---the employees are supposed to call the police/ICE. If a state employee tries to give illegals benefits---knowing that the documents are fraudulent---they can be prosecuted, fined, and lose their jobs.
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If this bill is passed, look for the Barry Hussein administration, through its Department of Injustice run by the corrupt Eric Holder, to do everything possible to sabotage it. They don't care what happens to AZ...after all it's just a "red state!" They want the Grand Canyon State to continue to be a gateway for the importation of cheap labor and future Democratic voters.
An earlier poster posed a question that won't be answered; namely: Why do the Do-Gooder's cry crocodile tears over Mexican nationals, when there are literally BILLIONS in the world living in far worse conditions? If "compassion" were the sole reason to import poverty, we could do a much better job of raising living standards. How about we offer Mexico this deal: for every Mexican national we admit to the US, you allow a Guatamalan or Salvadoran to enter Mexico! If you think Mexico's government would extend such "compassion" then you're dreaming! With them, it's strictly a one-way street, leading from their barrios directly to YOUR neighborhood and work site!
CEO's are making millions, meanwhile Illegal allies are blamed for whatever is wrong with the country.
CEO's steal money straight from our pockets, but some insist that illegal allies are a drag to the economy.
LEGALIZE THE ILLEGAL ALLIES!
--Invasion???? Really???? exageration comes to mind...
--Assimilate??? Really??? How do you propose they accomplish that?
--I want you guys to know that some of us immigrants have faught in wars for the U.S. But after coming back we found a a deportation letter in the same mail box that was covered with a yellow ribbon. Only after death does an immigrant soldier get a post humous citizenship. The Mexican border has alot of U.S. military war veterans just feet away from the land the risked their life for. check out their website www dot banishedveterans dot info
YES! let's make laws to keep reality out of our sight!
It is too hard to admit that the grand grand sons of the natives still walking among us.
Walking on the land that once belonged to all,
land of the free!?!? what that really means?
Also for those whom say that illegals should come here the legal route I say to you if the last three presidents had been immigrants they would have probably been deported for smoking pot, cocaine use, and adultery.
An immigrant has to be legal in order to join our military.
For example, they have to have a green card----and by them joining our military, the citizenship process is rushed through for them---and their families---when they are done serving their 2 years or 4 years---whichever it is.
ILLEGALS are NO WAY able to join our military.
Sue, their citizenship is not rushed through. The process of citizenship is terrifying. A guy with a "permanent residence" can be deported on the spot for crimes he may have commited when he was twelve years old. You don't even have to be arrested or found guilty as long as you admit you did it your gone. The bill you're referring to was HR 6020 the Hector Gutierrez act which was co-sponsored by nineteen congressmen and women. All from hispanic states. It never made it to a full house vote and was therefore not sent to the senate and then not to the president. The 110th congress never passed it down to the 111th congress. Therefore deportation letters are coming to those whom were willing to die next to me in combat to protect this wonderful amazing nation.
Expedited citizenship means you just don't have to pay the $700.00+ fee. Sorry it wasn't the Hector Gutierrez bill it was the Jose Gutierrez Bill. Check out www dot banishedveterans dot come and you will see my friend Hector Lopez whom served in Iraq and now lives in Rosarito Mexico were he can't even afford a Big Mac with his day's wages.
i am an old aquaintance of hector lopez banished veteran and he on more than one occasion drugged me with heroin. I could have died. He was affiliated with border gangs thru his damily in madera ca. Where he and i are aoth from and i cant believe he has the audacity to whine about his seaside govt sponsored vacation. GOD says i must forgive but let mr lopez know some of us wil NEVER FORGET THE PAIN HE CAUSED!
I made another mistake it was www dot banishedveterans dot info
Aaron Amigo said: Also for those whom say that illegals should come here the legal route I say to you if the last three presidents had been immigrants they would have probably been deported for smoking pot, cocaine use, and adultery.
Auntie says: You mean because every illegal who smokes pot, uses cocaine and commits adultery has been deported. Don't I wish.
Sign it; Pass it; but make sure you ENFORCE it. Too many people trying to become good citizens are doing it the legal way. Our politicians have a responsiblity to U.S. citizens not citizens of a foreign nation.
No crazy horse, don't legalize the illegal aliens, jail the CEO'S.
Aaron Amigo said: Also for those whom say that illegals should come here the legal route I say to you if the last three presidents had been immigrants they would have probably been deported for smoking pot, cocaine use, and adultery.
Auntie says: You mean because every illegal who smokes pot, uses cocaine and commits adultery has been deported. Don't I wish.
Aaron aren't you getting a little dramatic, or maybe melo dramatic?
With 18% of American citizens unable to find full time work we need leaders that will enforce our laws, protect our borders and impose huge fines on employers that are hiring illegals.
We will settle for nothing less.
--Bobby maybe I am man. I just wanted to run the whole Veterans getting deported issue by you guys I don't think it's fair but maybe you think it's okay. I guess it's not big deal to some. Aunti I don't even know were to begin answering what you said. Some one once told me be careful what you wish for.
--I honestyly believe yall that the trick to getting Mexicans to stay in Mexico is to help develop their economy through American investment ventures such as micro credits and sending jobs to Mexico instead of China. They don't want to leave their families just like you wouldn't want to. They live off 4 dollars a day and they are happy with that. That silly wall of Mexico is going to cost 8 billion dollars and they got to do is dig tunnels which will be even harder to monitor. Stop all of this hate and work together like good neighbors not walled off soviets.
Aaron Amigo... why can't you friend buy a Big Mac? I took a look @ your link about deported veterans. Seems to me like the common link between all of the stories is the criminal activity behind each one. (Felony weapons possession, drug possession) Some stories are not even written. Just goes to show you that military personnel, considered heroes by most, are not above the law. And they shouldn't be either. Don't come to a foreign country and start causing $&*#!! Serving in the military is not a get out of jail card.
--Bobby, what's really sad man is that this whole immigration situation has been going on since the 1800's.
Irish, Germans, Jews, Chinese, Japanese, BLACKS!!!, Puerto Ricans, Mexicans all have had to endure so much hate. Especially the blacks. You might want to read a book called Ethnic America and see how your ancestors were beaten, jailed, enslaved, raped, murdered, etc. And every few years we get a president who goes up there and apologizes but things remain the same. People wonder why the world hates America, it's not that the world hates America, it's that America hates the world. I love America and I will till the day I die. But If it costs a dollar a day to create a job in Haiti, Brazil, Panama, Cuba, Venezuela, why shouldn't we teach the world how to be like America one country at a time. Instead of singing the same song over and over. hate, hate, hate, and more hate.
Che???? please tell me you're not named after "Che Guevera". I guess you're okay with veterans getting sent back to their countries of origin AFGHANISTAN IRAQ LYBIA ETC. They can be tried for war crimes Che. But I guess the little petty refer they smoked merits and execution CHE. Like you haven't had one to many in your life or dabbled in some sort of drug. By the way Che they suffer from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder which they got from protecting you che! and they might even have been fighting against "che"
CHE I think I didn't explain the situation right. See what happened was that before 1996 a Lawful Permanent Resident was had practically the same rights as a U.S. Citizen they just couldn't vote. Then they changed the law and made it retroactive so that people whom commited crimes of moral turpitude would be on a deportation list. This means if one commited a crime in 1972 and had paid his debt to society and had been good up until 1996 well he was now going to be removed. So he would have to leave his American kids fatherless and his American wife husband less here in America or he could take them with him to a third world country. It destroyed families. Because they had commited a crime in their youth. We all know how stupid young people are. Not to mention movies like Scarface and rappers like Tupac making it cool to commit crimes. Commiting crimes became a part of american fabric and freud would call this criminal behaivor a mating ritual of a teenager. Done to impress the female.
If the law was passed last week it wasn't soon enough.Yes all of the illegal aliens can be deported.How you say?Stop giving them a free pass.Treat all the illegals the same way that mexico treats their illegal aliens.If you don't know how mexico does it look it up,you will be suprised.
--Their is a big difference between an illegal alien and a legal alien that was brought here when he was a baby whom served this country. Deporting illegals is fine, but deporting vietnam veterans or iraq and afghanistan veterans isn't. Look at the wetback act passed by Truman. He deported about a Million and a half Mexicans not only to Mexico but to deep deep Mexico. A large number of those Mexicans illegally deported were U.S. citizens by birth. But I never get anywhere in these conversation it's kinda hard to convince someone that the guy their competing for a job with shouldn't be deported. But God Bless You all and I'm tired of getting nowhere. Just remember according to Christian teachings we will be Judged by our Lord one day so play nice.
Aaron Amigo says:
"Also for those whom say that illegals should come here the legal route I say to you if the last three presidents had been immigrants they would have probably been deported for smoking pot, cocaine use, and adultery."
Your analogy is extremely weak, is absolutely silly, and it reeks of desperation in your attempt to rationalize illegal immigration.
Aaron Amigo says:
"Irish, Germans, Jews, Chinese, Japanese, BLACKS!!!, Puerto Ricans, Mexicans all have had to endure so much hate."
Unlike the other groups on your list, most of the "hate" that is directed toward Mexicans is because millions of them are in this country in violation of our immigration laws. It's difficult for Americans to warmly welcome any foreigner whose first act in our country is to violate our laws.
Aaron, I hear you in so many ways. But listen man, how can you blame the rage so many American citizens have? Try to imagine a situation, where Americans by the millions illegal enter Mexico, and start interfering with the jobs and culture that Mexico has. I have been to that nation several times. My father was a German businessman and he actually like Mexico, because he said that he was treated with respect there. I remember how he would buy a burrito or some other thing at one of those outside vendors, usually run by some poor Mexican woman, and yet he'd never get sick because the food was literally cooked over fire. He did this because he felt sorry for poor people, because he was a youth in wartorn Europe and survived by eating molded bread that fell off trains and was in the rain and sun for who knows how long. Many days he had nothing to eat. So he gave me an understanding about what it's like to be poor. But many Americans are poor also and need jobs. You can't blame their anger
Illegal immigration isn't just an issue in the United States, if you use the GoogleNets regularly, and do a search for illegal immigration, today they just had a mass landing on the island of Corsica. Great. Now the immigration process is like D-day, just no guns. Yet.
Frankly, probably the best prophylaxis in the United States against run-amok illegal immigration, since neither politicians nor border patrol seem to really be able to deal with the phenomenon very effectively, is if our economy goes completely to the Hot Place, and stays there for about 20 years, or however long it takes countries like Mexico to put down the tequila bottle, and get their national act together. They can use some of their drug money, and buy some cargo boats and planes and stuff, and engage in legitimate trade with other countries. When Americans are broke, they can't afford dope, they just have to grow it themselves.
Why does it seem like most news media supports the illeagals rather than those enforcing our laws?
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