The long-awaited, public demo of electromagnetic overunity that is self-looped to keep itself running continuously, is now under way, with Steorn's e-Orbo being shown at Dublin's Waterways Centre. A D-cell battery powers the motor and is recharged by it continuously.
 Steorn CEO, Sean McCarthy explains the e-Orbo technology that is now on public display. |
Commencing this morning at 7:00 am GMT at the Waterways Centre in Dublin, Ireland, Steorn is publicly demonstrating its new "e-Orbo" electromagnetic overunity, self-looped motor for the world to see.
The motor sits on a clear plastic stand in the middle of a room, so that you can see that there are no wires running to or from the device. The only wires go to and from a D-cell battery that sits next to the device and is recharged by the device, making it spin continually without ever stopping.
A Steorn press release states:
Orbo technology, which has been in development for six years, provides free, clean and constant energy at the point of use. It can be engineered to power anything from a phone to a fridge to a car. It is controversial because it is an "over-unity" technology, meaning that it produces more energy than it consumes without the degradation of its constituent parts.
The Steorn website invites people to come view the demo in person. Admission is free.
For those not able to travel there in person, a live stream is available from the Steorn website; and the public is allowed in to view the device in operation during the hours the centre is open. A webcam will be live 24/7 through the duration of the demonstration, which is scheduled to run from December 15-23, 2009, then from January 5-31, 2010.
According to Steorn, the motor will run for the entire duration without the battery being replaced -- something that would never happen under normal circumstances, hence demonstrating that the device is somehow keeping the battery charged -- the very battery that is running the device. The only caveat on that claim is that because this is a prototype, it is prone to mechanical or other failures, and parts may need to be replaced during the demonstration.
Perpetual Motion?
Normally this would be called "perpetual motion," but I don't think of it in those terms. The way I see it is that if this is indeed a legitimate system, then it is somehow harnessing energy from the environment -- some kind of unseen electromagnetic force that is free for the taking.
Scientists around the world will be scratching their heads about this demonstration by Steorn, to come up with an explanation of how this could be happening. It may in time change the physics books; but more importantly, it may change the public mindset that for too long has been closed to such possibilities, even though garage tinkerers and serious inventors have been coming up with stuff like this essentially since Nikola Tesla.
Live Feeds
Here is the feed from one of their live cameras:
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Watch live streaming video from steorn at livestream.com
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Here is a live view from the top:
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Watch live streaming video from steorncam2 at livestream.com
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This electromagnetic version is one of two variations of the effect discovered by Steorn in 2003. The other variation involves just magnets, with no electrical input at all. It appears that Steorn and the engineers who have been assisting them as part of a development group, decided to first demonstrate the electromagnetic version.
 Sean McCarthy explains the overunity concept in front of Dublin's Waterways Centre. |
Steorn brings a stature to their presentation that has gotten the world to sit up and take notice, notwithstanding their failed demonstration of three years ago. Even though most coverage to date has been negative and highly skeptical, nevertheless, Steorn has received widespread coverage.
This latest development will no doubt get the world talking.
Bear in mind that even if the concept is sound, an important milestone still to be achieved, is to derive a practical configuration for implementing the concept that is cost-effective and reliable.
Steorn invites inquiries into development and licensing of the technology.
"What we're offering is not just some new, cool technology. It is a real opportunity for us as a species, and us as a society, to change everything." -- Sean McCarthy
Video
Here's the explanatory video by Steorn, found on their home page.
See also our back-up. YouTube removed the audio because Steorn included some music that "has not been authorized by WMG" (at least to YouTube's knowledge). Steorn did get permission to use the music that is included with the video. |
How it Works
According to the explanation video, the e-Orbo consists of two components. The first component is a motor that looks like a traditional pulse motor in which an energy reservoir (the D-cell battery in this case) that energizes the coils to push the magnets causing rotation.
 The rectification circuit is basically just a diode. |
The second component is a generator with pick-up coils for generating electricity as the magnets pass by the electromagnets around the periphery, converting the kinetic energy from the rotation of the motor into electrical energy to feed back into the battery with a simple rectification circuit.
From a systemic point of view, the motor is producing rotational energy, electrical energy, and heat as the net products. Hence, McCarthy states that the overall production of energy is in a 3:1 ratio. Three units of energy produced for every one unit put in.
History
For many years Steorn has developed technology to help combat counterfeiting and fraud in the plastic card and optical disc industries.
In 2003 Steorn undertook a project to develop more efficient micro generators. Early into this project the company developed certain generator configurations that appeared to be over 100% efficient. Further investigation and development has led to the company's all-magnet motor technology which allegedly produces free energy. (Ref.) The technology is patent pending.
On July 4, 2007, Steorn ran a widely publicized demo of their free energy prototype at the Kinetica Museum in London, promised to be streamed live around the world; but it opened with the device not working, spurring much skepticism. (Ref.)
On Feb. 4, 2009, they lifted the curtain once again, this time soliciting teams of engineers and commercial interests to become part of a developer group who will take a working principle and build embodiments which can then be implemented through license. (Ref.)
On June 21, 2009, the Jury selected in 2006 to review the Steorn technology issued the verdict reached by the end of 2008, namely that the technology does not result in energy gain. Notwithstanding the experts' negative conclusion, Steorn remained optimistic that they would have a production model ready by the end of 2009. (Ref.)
On Sept. 27, we reported that the company plans to demonstrate their technology via live video by the end of 2009. This demonstration in Dublin is the fulfillment of that expectation.
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Comments
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Motor Stopped
On Dec. 15, 2009; 6:35 pm Mountain time, Sterling wrote:
I just noticed that the Steorn demo is not spinning, Live Stream, View 1, with ~400+ viewers watching. http://www.steorn.com/
I've had it in view for most of the day on one of my two computer monitors.
Jim Dunn said earlier today that there had been a couple of times when the device had to be stopped and fiddled with.
I'm surprised that Steorn didn't have meters (current, voltage, rpm) shown and have a better way to show a net energy gain.
The predominant scientific criticism of this demo has been that "a D-cell battery could power something like that for days".
The demo as presented doesn't seem to be convincing very many people of anything, especially with any interruptions of the rotation in so short a time.
Also, there needs to be a collective forum for those who are watching on to be able to log what they see. Otherwise how are we to know what happened during those times we are not watching? I'm seeing the thing stopped presently, but I didn't see the earlier times Jim mentioned.
If some external load were being carried, which could not be accounted for by the D-cell battery input, then they would have a convincing demo. And the bigger that load, the more rapid would be the conclusion that there is something here. The longer that takes, the less convincing this is.
As it is, with this motor sitting there stopped, it would seem to me that this demo has been another flop, performing as conventional science would predict -- nothing new here. Drat.
I should mention, too, that in the last several hours (the place is closed, I presume, for the night), someone has been coming in and taking measurements about every 15-30 minutes. I would be curious to see a graph of the rotation speed and other data that has been collected from this demo.
p.s. After writing the above and sending it out via email, the Live Stream View 1 went to black. That's not good integrity.
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Not a Typical Pulse Motor
On Dec. 15, 2009, CLaNZeR wrote:
At first glance, to most people this may seem like a normal pulse motor. But it is not and uses Steorn's Orbo config. That's all I can really say on this because of the NDA; but if people join Steorns SKDB they will find out and see for themselves. I would say it is unique and [has] not been seen in other designs published over the years.
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Why Not Capacitor and Meters?
On Dec. 15, 2009, Jim Dunn wrote:
Sean – Congratulations on the New Demo. Hopefully this encourages others to come forth with their similar devices beginning the Free Energy (and O/U) Era.
A quick suggestion – Why not use a small ultracap instead of a battery and show the voltage changes on a scope, and true ‘looping’?
That would be much more believable, and truly show the Energy IN vs. Out ratios. You could pick a value of Capacitor like .1- 1.0F that is truly self sustaining, with little losses, whereas batteries have a relatively bad turnaround ratio (80%). You might even have a gradual increase in voltage, over time, which would be very impressive, and convincing!
Otherwise this appears to be just another Bedini motor, which we have all built and played with.
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Other Coverage
- Steorn - What Constitutes "Proof" of Over Unity? (Nolan Charts; Dec. 15)
- Steorn Orbo energy device demonstration: New energy breakthrough? (Fred Burks; Examiner; Dec. 15)
- Steorn shows revolving Orbo to the public - photo gallery with captions. (ZDNet; 15 Dec 2009 16:21 GMT)
- Steorn's perpetual motion machine. Battery included. - some critical observations by a UK reader on site. (ZDNet; 15 Dec 2009 3:57)
- 'Free energy' device on display (Press Association; Dec. 15)
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Comments
Another scam. They are proving nothing.
Cute electric motor.
If one is trying to show overunity, this is about the worst way to do it. If indeed the device puts out 3:1, a battery-free self runner should be possible. But, if for some reason it's not, it should be trivially easy to show the excess energy output via an uncharged secondary storage device or by adding a known load (electrical and/or mechanical). At the end of the run, there should be 2x as much energy available (or alternatively delivered) by the system as there was in the initial condition. The demonstration, as currently shown, suggests a regenerative motor running in a low-load condition; a D-cell battery could run this setup continuously for a very long time as only a minuscule amount of work is being done by the system. I would like to see their calculations regarding the net motor draw after any regen is accounted for.
2nd law violation, scam artists
Wow, a battery? Seriously? Why was this needed? A capacitor would have done the job and proved the system... all this for the sake of the poor investors who had more money than sense. Poor dears.
This looks an awful lot like John Bedini's technology, which you can find at www dot panaceauniversity dot org.
Look for "Bedini Technology" at this page.
This is a total and complete joke.
Bedini now has a cause of action against Steorn for violation of patents and principles - - -Steorn is STEALING Bedinis thunder . . . .
JJ is right.
They'll have to remove that battery to prove anything.
Also, they’ll need to monitor for strong inductive fields around the setup.
For some real science see this site: wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_energy_transfer
I have an open mind, but I am disappointed.
QUOTE: "Looks like John Bedini's technology"
Why would we look into this? I think we should if sombody shows something worth stealing. c'mon.
that's like trying to resolve a conflict between 2 children arguing if Santa has a black belt or a brown belt. Lets prove Santa exists first, OK?
Hey Sterling, you got sucker-punched again. This is just like Bedini's idea and just as Bedini's idea is nothing but cow-based fertilizer, this can't work either. In case you don't recall the previous discussions, overunity wouldn't require batteries, hands, tweezers, or anything else to keep it running.
Did you notice that Steorn, who has been working on this for years and spent more than $20 million of investor money, apparently couldn't afford or be bothered with a power metering system for their battery.
It's a hoax and a scam folks. Don't be fooled. This will fester on maybe, like Goldes does and Tilley did and Lee (and Otto) keep coming back again and again, but it will never work.
Oh... almost forgot. If it makes three times the energy it uses, why bother with a battery? Has Steorn never heard about capacitors? They should work equally well. And of course, if the device makes energy, where does the energy go? If you keep pushing current into a battery, eventually it overheats and damages the battery. And usually that doesn't take more than a few hours, or less, depending on how much extra current.
I missed the presentation, but maybe the fact that a battery was chosen was explained then? Anyway, any1 knows the motor's power consumption, the battery's capacity, etc?
I thaught I saw a bideni motor demonstrated with a computer fan runining on it's own, no batteries included. You have to give him credit for keeping a scam going this long. It will go on an on and on, till the money runs out. There is a new sucker born evry minute. Shame Shame Sham
Yep it may be a scam - but let's see. Let those who visit the demo see if there are magnetic fields feeding it. I think to condemn something from a distance is lacking objectivity. True science doesn't condemn through the prejudice of being taken for a ride before.
Its very similar to the keppe motor I made a few months ago and its about 90% efficiency. orbo runs On a d cell with is 10 amps 1.5v Battery will run for very long time probably a month till it dies a chap on the video keeps checking the RPM to see if any slow down to change the battery. why don't they just put in 1.5v 1a battery and run it on that I will last for 3 days and stop its fake.
I agree about a capacitor,a battery realy isn't needed if what Storen says is true.I am NOT buying this one....
Sadly, I can not determine anything from this motor. Lack of wires alone does not prove anything. I have seen expensive Tesla style airwave electricity generators for sale of late. This could be gathering energy from something like that, which is less efficient than using wires. Without actual full scale testing this demonstration is useless. I'm sure they claim to have the independent testing, but again, can't prove it by me. If this is for real, they have to do better than this. To many potential tricks involved, and too many scammers in the past.
What a load of horsecrap. These guys have no shame.
Mr. S.D. Allan,
It will be to the inventor's merit to show some (any) pozitive energy delivered by this system. Would Steorn Co. consider connecting a one-watt load, e.g. a power LED lamp to the generator? In my opinion, 1 Watt is a minimum - symbolic - value of energy that a decent prototype should deliver as a proof of over-unity concept.
Otherwise, many critics may easily point to the "D"-cell battery as the hidden source of energy. Presently, battery manufacturers offer Lithium batteries with enough capacity to keep an electrical motor running unloaded for weeks. Example: Tadiran Battery offers a 3.6V 19AH (nineteen amp-hours!) battery in a "D" cell (Tadiran model TL-5930).
Mr. Allan, would you please pass my message to Steorn?
Best Regards,
Rod R.
That "D" cell battery they use is
Here are some measurements.
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Are there three units on display and running? From the second live feed view it looks like three units on display. If there are three, did all three stop? Has there been any feed back from anyone who has acturlly been there to see the demo?
Why hasn't the failure of this demonstration been directly attributed to sabotage by Robert Potchen?
He is blamed for similar sabotage of other over-unity devices on the PesWiki? I notice the articles implicating him in that sabotage have been removed from this site.
Is this site no longer part of the Free Press? Can Sterling no long publish baseless rumors and un-researched claims? What is the world coming to?
Maybe it's in their contract that they have to make it look a little rickety so they don't cause too big of a commotion. I for one believe magnet power is real. I think the calloway v gate proved that. I don't understand why Steorn is using a d-cell battery when they could have used a capacitor (I don't know what capacitors are but they could have at least used a AAA battery!) Also, it's really old they don't hook up a tachometer and a voltage reader to the demo. What kind of demo is that, it just spins endlessly with no data? They don't seem to be too concerned appeasing the skeptics so they either really have something and don't need to prove it, or they don't have anything and they are just running a toy on a battery. I say they have something though.
It's a simple variable reluctance motor driven by a battery and commutated by a reed switch. Does anyone see a novel magnetic configuration? Is there anything at all unusual to see?
Suppose that it generated the free energy that Steorn claims. The free energy would have to be dissipated in some way. The magnetic bearings are supposed to be very low loss. That leaves the wiring resistance including the coils, the flyback diode and the battery. Of all of those the battery has the highest resistance. This means that the battery should be charging up and along with it the voltage. Since the motor is self-commutated, the speed should be increasing with time. Numerous observers report the motors slowing down with time. They have been replaced on multiple occasions. This means that there is no evidence of sustaining, much less excess energy.
Why a D cell with 10's of thousands of Joules? The energy used in one full rotation is milliJoules or less.
It's a pathetic put-on
I am afraid that the majority of observers (including at overunity.com) are not convinced that all we are seeing is a very efficient electrical motor. Given their first motor they developed deguassed I guess its no cigar again.
Mark
The Bedini schemes discharge inductor flyback energy into a second battery. The reed switch in Steorn's Orbomination is a single pole, and there is but one diode. In order to return energy to the powering source from a coil / motor winding requires at least two switch poles, or the diode must be connected to dedicated coupled discharge windings. Close-ups of the toroid windings show no such windings.
Steorn circuit CANNOT return any energy to the battery. All that they have is a battery powered motor.
if it really is a over unity device... why don't they just remove the battery... it'd make a much much more convincing demonstration
something like: give the device an initial spin by hand, once it starts running it can just supply all its own power....
The Steorn story is one that I simply must watch. It is either a brilliant scam or the introduction of something wonderful into mainstream awareness. Either way, I must watch. Tesla and a multitude of others may be right about over-unity but they never managed to convince the main stream culture. Conspiracy theorists abound and Steorn does seem to act strangely. Usually when I see strange behavior, there is some other hidden process going on. The question is what? That causes me to want to watch even closer. Instincts tell me something big is going to happen, but just what is uncertain. Gotta keep watching...watching...watching. I think I'm getting hypnotized. :-)
As the device claims to violate the 2nd law, I'm convinced it's a hoax. Secondly, if the ratio of 3 to 1 was real (or any such over-unity), the device would exponetionally accellerate and produce massive amounts of energy. eg 1 joule in, 3 out, 3 in, 9 out, 9 in, 27 out etc.. in short, any over-unity would quickly self destruct the device in spectacular fashion. The doubling time of 300 percent per second, for example, is approximately 0.26 seconds. Not that there's any point in refuting fairy stories.
Why not set the device off with a half charged battery and allow the device to charge it up. Nice, simple, quick and repeatable? Surely much quicker and easier than the current set up which appears to convince nobody.
I can not believe the "SUCKERS" out there.Again the "Make Steorn Happy Fund",has produced nothing.May your investors open up a "I'm stupid, but with money"site.This way we can all get rich.
As a graduated electrical engineer, it makes me very sad to see, how gullible people are and how easy perpetua mobile scammer can earn money with people's false hopes. Let's start with the simple thing: Steorn uses a electric motor principle that is based on magnetical saturation in their ferrite toroidal cores. Saturation has the effect, the ferromagnetic material can not accomodate a higher magnetic flux density in the B/H-diagram; hence attractive forces between permanent magnets in the rotor decrease. Whenever the magnets pass the coils, these are turned on - so the magnets will pass and the rotor will spin up. However, this is not 'free energy', since every magnetization cycle takes energy from the battery. The 'recuperation coils' are simply a smokescreen to muddy the waters. Since a well designed saturation motor takes only a handfew mW to spin (I guess, 10-20mW) the shown 3.6V, 10Ah LiIon-battery can keep alive the system for a couple of months. Enough to milk investors.
He should have used a real capacitor or a really small battery. Until now I thought he could be thinking he is onto something by mistake. But after seeing the demonstration there is no more doubt.
There should be a punishment for misleading people to make cash.
Use a capacitor instead of a battery, and you will quickly realize you are not gaining energy but loosing it. A saturation motor is lossy due to hysteris, etc...
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Well, here we are in August and what has Steorn done? Absolutely nothing. No independent calorimetry result, no independent replication, no overunity, no contracts announced, nobody is commercializing Orbo and talking about it, in short nothing, zip, nada, ZERO.
Why's that, do you think?
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