Chris Eckman of Idaho State University presents an overview of his theory of how Brown's gas is electrical in nature. This precocious undergrad proposes a new isomer of water, something that would probably land a Nobel prize on more seasoned academics.
In my opinion, Brown’s gas is one of the most interesting physical science fields.
I’ve played with brown’s gas before, so I can speak from first-hand experience to vouch for what has been demonstrated in numerous YouTube videos and even some news reports. Simply put, Brown’s gas is the hydrogen-oxygen gas that comes from electrolysis that ducts the gases together, not separated. You can wave a Brown’s gas torch across your skin without burning it, and then take that same torch with the same setting and oxidize (melt) Tungsten, something that requires heat in the range of 6,000 ºF. The action is not coming from the heat of the flame but from something else that is going on. The list of unusual attributes of Brown's gas is quite long.
I am baffled as to why mainstream academia has overlooked and marginalized it for so long. I would think they would be curious and investigate these astonishing attributes to help speed its practical implementation.
Chris Eckman, an undergraduate student at Idaho State University, is a newcomer on the scene with the courage to pursue this science despite its political baggage. He has been doing some groundbreaking analysis and has been coming up with theoretical models to explain the phenomenon. People get Nobel prizes for documenting the kind of things he’s doing.
He recently submitted a paper describing these results and his theoretical models to a peer reviewed journal. It will include a complete math proof and physical proof.
Could it be that the politics of the field have kept this fairly straight-forward science hidden (no seasoned researchers dare look lest they jeopardize their career by the stigma of pursuing crackpot science), so that now a mere undergraduate student can waltz in an walk away with a discovery that could have been snatched decades ago by more "prestigious" professors?
I have to grin at the prospect.
Here is a synopsis he sent me recently when I was asking him about the electrical properties of Brown’s gas.
[In] the Browns Gas water plasma model, the water molecule goes from the tetrahedral and bent (4 electron pairs, 2 being used and 2 not being used) to the trigonal bipyramidal (5 electron pairs, 2 being used and 3 not being used), this causes the shape change.
Because water normally is within the N2 shell, it needs a lot of energy to move up and would rather break down into Hydrogen and Oxygen then move up. However Browns Gas may be moving up a level and storing the extra electrons in the N=3 orbital. In other words, the original water molecules exist in a sp3 hybridized state whereas the “linear” molecule would have to use the d subshell of the n = 3 shell to become a sp3d hybrid state that allows for the expansion for the extra electrons. Upon relaxation it would resume its original state reclaiming its polarity and attraction to other water molecules.
The new water molecule will form what is called "Non-equilibrium plasma" or "cold plasma” (it can be also called isomers) where the electrons have high energies but the molecules or atom that hold the extra electrons are relatively unenergetic and heat is produced by the electrical resistance of the target material from the extra electrons, while the molecule or atoms releasing these electrons remains relatively cool.
The energy produced in the substrate material is due to electrons that scatter at point of contact, producing heat based upon the melting or vapor point of the material, electrical conductivity, density and thermal capacity of the material (how much heat it will absorb). This would be the (what I would call the Semi Stable Species, it will ether break down or revert back to water with some time) stable species that is formed in Brown's gas that will react with the substrate material.
By the way I now have the physical/mathematical proof I need to show that this is a true structure of water (weather or not it is the main component of Browns gas I can not say for sure, but I would place money on it), but waiting for it to be published (the proof part to be published).
Chris also wrote:
I had done a laboratory gas spectrometer analysis on the gas produced by BG torch and Tungsten. It proved that about 46% of the gas was tungsten dioxide, 11% was tungsten (VI) oxide (trioxide) and the rest was about 43% straight tungsten metal.
I found that electricity will commonly make tungsten dioxide.
Normally, "WO2 is prepared by reduction of WO3 with tungsten powder over the course of 40 hours at 900 °C" (my Chemistry book), it also has a super high electrical conductivity and it showing promise for superconducting materials at high temps. The one that nature prefers is WO3.
I tried to replicate it using Acetylene Torch and nothing similar happened. We had some amounts of WO3 -- that was expected -- but negligible amounts of WO2. This shows that BG burned it differently then an Acetylene Torch.
I also tried to make it [tungsten dioxide] using electricity and found that I had similar ratios (within 12% of BG's numbers). Straight tungsten oxide (only 1 oxygen) is not common and was negligible < 0.001% in the results. Also small amounts of water, and even smaller amounts of H2 and O2 were found. There was also a small "blip" that no one really knew what it was, but this was considered negligible as well.
[All this] helps confirm electrical presence.
Chris also sent me a Chemistry paper he wrote last year "that started it all", with the caveat that I let people know that some of his thinking has changed since then.
- Browns Gas: What exactly is it? (doc) (May 1, 2008)
Here's his account of the history of his involvement in the science.
One of the professors from the school looked through [the paper] and made me an offer to do work study for him to study this gas. I accepted and worked for a year, tinkering with the gas.
On the way I found new info on the gas, and we (my professor and I and one other) found funding to go to the "big boys" of research at Idaho National Labs. There we had leaps and bounds when it came to research. The information we found there was huge, even compared to when I worked for a year! That is when we published the first paper (similar to the power point).
We then did data analysis (us two undergrads), and we really had been swamped. We found a grad student to help, then we got a little better results (in our math, really complex stuff). That is when we applied for finding a new isomer of water. We have been trying to publish the discovery ever since.
We have an X ray picture of the molecule and some extremely promising mathematics to prove it's existence, but it seem to be more a political battle then that of data. It would seem the "poor undergrad" who has a GPA of 3.5 (B+) is not smart enough to "find such a discovery". (By what I've been told it is Nobel prize worthy. People get the Nobel prize in Chemistry for the discovery of new molecules and isomers and stuff like that every year).
Shortly after that (~3 months ago), funding ran out and we've been looking for it since. It is really hard to publish a new molecule or isomer or any new discovery. I get 10+ emails a day from people that agree and disagree with my theory -- both people who swear by it and others that swear at it -- both with Ph.D.s and high school drop outs contact me. Of course the Ph.D.s have my attention a bunch more then the high school dropouts.
Well anyway, it is safer to keep results under raps until it is out [peer-review published]. I don't want some company saying they have my results. I've even brought on a lawyer on this to help in all the legal stuff.
Here is an interview I did with Chris on July 31, 2009 at the Nativo Lodge in Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA, as part of the ExtraOrdinary Technology conference. Chris gave a lecture on Brown's gas at the conference, which you can obtain from the conference website at http://TeslaTech.info (My apologies in advance for the poor audio quality. We though the microphone was working, but it wasn't, and the camera mic was set to surround sound.)
| Chris postulates that the gas is a function of a high-energy-state form of water that moves it from a dipole configuration to a linear configuration with two extra electrons, which then interact electrically with the substrate, resulting in the very unusual effects observed, such as sublimating Tungsten while not burning your hand if you wave the torch across it. (YouTube; Aug. 1, 2009) |
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- Chris Eckman's PowerPoint Presentation on Brown's Gas Technology - Given July 31, 2009 at the ExtraOrdinary Technology conference in Albuquerque New Mexico, USA.
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Comments
One sure fire way to make Brown's gas important to confuse the meanings of "oxidize", "melt" and "vaporize". Let's pretend all those words mean the same thing and throw in the 6,000 F number. After all, most breakthrough energy ideas are only powered by vocabulary.
I agree with Sarge. And by the way, so called "Brown's gas" is just hydrogen and oxygen in one place together and at approximate the right ratio to go BOOM in a big way so please be careful. We wouldn't want you to make an ash out of yourself.
As for all the nonsense about the supposedly cold flame, again be careful. That observation stems from ignorance about the physics of heat capacity and conductivity. And what you don't know can turn around and bite you. Or more to the point, burn you. Be careful out there. Hydrogen and oxygen mixed together is dangerous.
Oh by the way maryyugo, your flat out wrong, I have made a mix of hydrogen and oxygen and the results are different from browns gas, my professor said the exact same thing that you did and he proved himself wrong while trying to prove me wrong. He mixed hydrogen and oxygen and came out with a flame that registered around 1200 C; it was orange and very wild of a flame and cannot oxidize tungsten. Browns Gas only emits about 130 C and is near invisible blue and easily will oxidize tungsten. We also have a spectra gas analysis of Browns Gas and it was done at a high quality lab, it showed a molecule that has never been seen before. I would place money on it being the reason Browns Gas behaves so differently. You said “That observation stems from ignorance about the physics of heat capacity and conductivity.” (Next time do you home work) The specific heat is a measurement of the heat required to increase the temperature of a substance by a certain temperature.
Water will raise one Celsius of temperature when 4.186 J/g. Browns Gas an exact molar content is controlled in a laboratory, then is required to heat water, it will raise it no more then 1 to 2 C. For copper it is 0.39 to 0.449 J/g* C, however it melts at nearly 1900 C, with the same amount of Browns Gas that only makes water 1 to 2 C higher. YOU DO THE MATH, id doesn’t work!!! That is because Browns Gas IS DIFFERENT!!!
You've got a way to go Eckman, before you know what you know and what you don't know and I'm not the one to educate you. But be careful with hydrogen and oxygen mixtures. They can explode violently and hurt you, regardless of what you name them. Wear your protective gear, especially goggles, at all times, keep an extinguisher nearby and never, ever trust a mixture of those gases to behave, regardless of how it's obtained. Good luck in learning what it is you don't know.
Oh, try wiki for "specific heat capacity". I'd link it but this silly software won't let me.
I've been working with browns gas now for 4 years and know the dangers of working with it. I have been published over 4 times and am two years away from two BS degrees, one in nuclear engineering, one in physics and a minor in electronics and mathematics. I have been able to gathered over 52,000 $ in donations. I know what I’m talking about and I have mathematical proof, physical proof and am gathering more donations toward Browns Gas research.
Also working in a lab I have to follow protocol and safety procedures at all times, this is not being done in a car port or in the basement of someone’s house, it is done in high quality labs and with high quality equipment.
Chris, so how does the Browns Gas become Browns Gas, what proces does it take?
Master Eckman, if you have ambitions to devote yourself to the study of what you are calling a novel isomer of water, take the time to establish your credentials. A college junior has no standing in the scientific community period. Hanging around this website peddling your amateur work to date is going to taint all of your future work. Pons and Fleischmann were established researchers with good but not great methodology. Their careers were all but ruined because of how they presented their initial cold fusion research. Don't be in such a hurry, take your time, build a case (if there is one to be had - and I am doubtful) and maybe as a post doctoral student in collaboration with other reputable researchers you can make a splash.
thanks JK, I believe your right, I got a little annoyed and angry when maryyugo used the word “ignorance”, That is one think I do not think I am, but I have years to come and don’t want to ruin it. I have a little pride, but I need to “take the time to establish your credentials” like you said. Well anyway, one thing I’m sure of is that there is something different to browns gas.
Master Eckman. Please review the list of publications regarding Fractional Quantum Energy States by R. L. Mills et al. and follow your interest from there.
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Chris,
I read you were having trouble getting published. You don't say where you were trying to get your paper published. If you have been trying to get published in US journals, you might consider having your paper translated into French or German and attempting to get it published in EU. Once it's out and replicated it's difficult to dismiss. Hang in there and shoulder to the wheel.
Regards,
Andy
hi Chris
i have a brown gas generator at home...
for you what is the best industrial applaication for this gas?
denis from italy
hi Chris
i have a brown gas generator at home...
for you what is the best industrial applaication for this gas?
denis from italy
The industrial application of browns gas is hard to say, it works as a torch, but depending on metal will change the efficacy of how the gas works. This is due to the different properties in metals. I would have to say the most useful and best application would be refinement of ore, it produces an unique flame that really works well for refinement of ore such as iron, copper, gold, lead, silver and molybdenum. These are metals that really can be isolated by the browns gas torch.
Hello, Luke from australia lswilliams77@hotmail.com...
its interesting that chris Eckam has been able to propose a theoretical structure for browns
gas, I'd heard of browns gas but it seems whenever its mentioned people seemed very skeptical.
Ohmasa of the japan techno company created a method using a vibrating stirrer that causes the water upon electrolysis to liberate this type of gas which he has has been called ohmasa gas but it is identical stuff to browns gas and perhaps to what joe here made with the joe cell I'm not sure. But my idea is that the vibrations from the car may give the 10 -500 hz vibration that can make this possible.
also an idea I had some time ago was applying a standing wave of sound and electrolyis at the points of acoustic cavitation- or sonar luminescence but thats nanotechnology. I guess what I am asking is
Is this ohmasa gas, browns gas the same???
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