The numbers are in on the Manny Pacquiao vs. Miguel Cotto fight, at least as reported by HBO. Already some media are slobbering all over themselves as to the 1,250,000 buys in America, as if they contributed to it.
It boils down to how you interpret what you can verify.
I say the September 19 Floyd Mayweather, Jr. vs. Juan Manuel Marquez fight, based only on the numbers, is much more impressive.
If you're Filipino, don't get your panties in a wad, as Pacquiao still needs to be marketed more and better in America even after participating in a number of HBO and HBO Pay-Per-View events.
Let's go back just a couple of months ago to Mayweather vs. Marquez. The fight had been bad-mouthed since day one. It even was postponed from a summer date to a fall date because the casinos weren't doing any business over the summer and the fight had yet to generate a buzz, let alone ticket sales.
But HBO believed in it and largely because of the star power of Floyd Mayweather, Jr.
The Mayweather fight did 1.05 million buys compared to the 1.25 million of Pacquiao.
So it's 200,000 less homes. Granted, that's a ton where I come from. But it also cost half as much as Pacquiao vs. Cotto.
However, Mayweather hadn't fought in almost two years. He fought an opponent, who was well-known, but was a 36 year-old opponent fighting two weight divisions above his norm and while he could urinate, he couldn't talk much American smack.
And Ultimate Fighting Championship was countering with a UFC 103, which wasn't much more than a glorified ESPN show, but it totaled 400,000 buys directly opposite Mayweather vs. Marquez.
Then, factor in September 19 was a major night of American college football, taking away even more, maybe millions of casual fans.
So how can the same people that bad-mouthed the Mayweather fight at 1.05 million buys say Pacquiao's 1.25 million buys was so great and what boxing needs.
Even HBO is at a loss to explain how well the Mayweather vs. Marquez fight did.
So every time you criticize Floyd Mayweather, Jr. in public, it's really taking money out of the hands of Manny Pacquiao.
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i understand how ur trying to squirt yourself praising your may-wither, of course thats normal after losing your panties and bra betting on cotto, right?... anyway, ur right ur girlfriend has more sisters in USA, coz' of that i hope they could help in convincing ur black girlfriend to take the 35% share on their fight with Pacman...
ok
I dont know what kind of logic you have mate, Mr. Stolow you are incredibly a certified stupid idiot for naming gayweather as a winner..With numbers, filipino Pacman beat your american gayweather in the american backyard....Need I say more....or do I have to explain it to you in plain english...
let's not forget that "firepower" featured two non-american fighters but still managed to get such numbers here in the U.S..Let's be fair to JMM, though you might say he's not the main man in that fight against mayweather,still it's safe to say that he still made he's share on that ppv numbers.
I'm wondering how many stupid writers like this one is of existence in this planet. So disappointed to click this article - making me half as stupid as the writer is. I promise not to read your article again!
assume half of those are mex-americans rooting for Marquez during mex independence day weekend.
So how's your Cotto, Matt???
Sourgraping thread...LOL
have you done your research before writing something? we should bear in mind that the PPV was sold at $54, or $5 more than the Mayweather-Marquez bout. Maybe you just let your hurting ego do the writing?
you said it yourself, thats 200,000 more buys, and costs more than the mayweather fight, AND STILL 200,000 more buys. plus it was rescheduled so less time for people to buy tickets. just admit that pacquiao-cotto won. you dont have to justify just to win. mayweather could have fought a better opponent if he wanted to, but he didnt, so he lost.
add to that the undercards issue. and add to that the live gate, the number of tickets given away for the live gates in mayweather fight 800+ tickets. thats crazy
yeah ur rite matt slow just drop by later ur check is ready.
NIce assessment...But have you ever thought that There were $1.25M more from were you came from watched somebody from 'not where you came from' to fight?Pacquiao needs to be marketed more in America?Are you willing to pay more for our PacMan?Whg don't you sell Mayweather instead to where you came from, I bet it'll cost you less, from a businessman's point of view, he's probably worth far more less than what he charges..
maybe you forgot eat your breakfast in the morning thats why ur brains is dry and stink. dont ever forget to eat bareakfast again you becoming slow now matt
W-T-F!!! It wasn't Mayweather that made that fight. It was Marquez and all the Mexican fans. If you think Mayweather is such a money draw, why don't you fight him and let him kick your scrawny a-s-s around the ring and see how much money that will make....oh wait a minute..nevermind, I'm sure millions would want to watch the dumbest boxing scribe get his a-s-s whipped!!...I know I would. YOU S-U-C-K!! Give it up man!
Am not going to read anymore articles comming from this writer, balimbing na putatching sa publisidad! I promise! This writer now need our ultimate silence........ no more clicks, goodbye!
Matt, A good number of those buys come from the Mexicans and Mexican-American Communities. The fight was scheduled to coincide with Mexico's Indipendence day. If you factor that thought, it cannot be all Mayweather. You are undermining Marquez and his following. Also there are quite a lot who watch the fight simply to see Floyd defeated. Always remember there is a good chunk of people in the United States that does not like Floyd. I wish you would re-write this article. I do like to read your columns. Thanks
what an idiot gayweather-d-runner believer u r....i think u should stop being a writer... how much did gayweather-d-runner pay u?
You say that in May vs. JMM...its the star power of May that did 1.05m...and wat is JMM? dummy? LOL. You're so biased man! Have you ever tried to think FAIRLY for once? You are so full of yourselves! Just because JMM is not American, he cant draw people anymore? Wake up! SInce your fall from grace, America is a has been! Not everything revolves around you. In every PPV unless you can show me proof...its BOTH fighters that made the numbers! NOT Mayweather alone...not Pacquiao alone! If you make an argument that because Pac vs. Cotto did 1.25m and JMM vs. May did 1.05...then May is the clear winner or bigger draw coz the fight has been maligned from the very start...what a preposterous lie! Maligning or trash talking are part of promotions in boxing...its has been that way even before you and I were born. Lets just talk numbers and facts... How much were the tickets for JMM vs May? and how much for Pac vs. Cotto? How many tickets had to be rediscounted for both fights?
Matt!!! I couldn't believe this stup!d conclusion of yours... I will say no more as boyarate, mcknug, jay, observer, pac_pocalypse, and bongbugs have said it all...
And may I add as Green Day says you're an "American Idiot!!!"
pinhead!
suck your mayweather dick... you are idiot writer...
(cont'd. ) How many tickets were given as complimentary? In all 3 questions, if you just answer honestly you would cede that the Pca vs. Cotto was the clear winner! 200k difference is huge during an economic downturn! Admit it or be branded as racist!
this guy is a rasist inconsiderate mexican hater.
HBO is at a loss to explain the 1.05M buys for PBF. Of course they are, considering that it is not true! You can manipulate that kind of numbers easily. And it is so much easier for HBO to do it and not be held by the IRS for it because they can easily just say, "lets add 300,000 buys for PBF and deduct 300,000 from Pacman's fight in the future, and we will be held accountable for the same amount." There is no real check and balance here, because the ultimate test which will hurt their pockets will not be complaining. Come on, how can you insinuate that the fight is almost comparable,(on the strength of the PPV numbers), when the Pac's fight was fully sold out weeks before, and the PBF's fight was 30% empty? To think that so many discounts were offered and so many promotional inducers were opened up to the fans. Even offering 2-for-1 nights stay in some hotels in Las Vegas? Consider the close tie up between HBO and Golden Boy Promo/PBF, and you should not look far for explanation.
This article clearly has no intelligent input whatsoever.
Let me rephrased what was said here Mayweather wins on a 1.05mil buys because Pacquiao has 1.25mil buys. If that didn't make any sense then welcome to the article.
You don't look American, you look more like an Indian Arab african Latino all into one. Now i understand the reasoning behind your writing. Enveeiouuss!
Matt should have been a spin doctor for a paticular political party in America.
this was the dumbest article i've ever read in this site..keep on dreaming matt!!!
whar a f***ing s**t article!
THE ONLY FU_KING WAY TO SILENCE THIS IDIOT WRITER IS NOT TO CLICK ANY OF HIS ARTICLE.
Marquez sold the fight. Get yor facts straight, ignorant fool.
ILL SPAM YOUR USELESS ARTICLE.
Another sourgraping form a loser!!!!
get over it....
the dumbest thing Ive ever read!
Personally, I feel the numbers are closer 1.55M (1.25M+0.3M) for Pacman and 0.75M (1.05M-0.3M) for PBF. That is whta live attendance indicate. Thay is what internet traffic indicates, that is what media write-ups an articles indicate, that is what casual and hardcore fans indicate, that is what celebrity and common folk fans indicate. So please stop taking every opportunity to nuthug PBF for the littlest thing. The man isn't even worth it. And to fuel further his sick attitude towards money, his lack of interest in entertaining the fans, proper values, and so many other things, just makes you as sick as he is!
ogag-ness at its finest!
probably one of the dumbest and most ridiculous assessment i have ever read.
this guy matt stolow...his article is always rubbish...get a life man...do something else than wasting my time reading your article...why you need to write article for people to find out that you are DUMB>>>MORON>>>>IDIOT>>>BRAINLESS
What a stupid article from a moronic writer
You better f^ck-up Mr. Writer. Don't be too fanatic to gayweather because soon he will be destroyed! bwahahahahahah
STUPID WRITER
matt! pagmata oi!
I agree with your article... It is perhaps because many people wanted to see first hand the first loss of Junior...
Look at all the posts man! the world has spoken...and now who is the clear winner? Pac or May? admit it you little minded, self centered, envious writer. You and your Mayweather will never be as great as Pacquiao and the REAL writers of the past. I have said my piece and I say to all decent men and women who loves the sport of boxing, Lets not read anymore of this writer's articles! I say BOYCOTT this writer.
"great" article.. once again unbias journalism on your part. Mayweather/marquez was such a hit offered at a bargain price that the curious were more than willing to pay for it. Sells at a lower price, the moving of the fight date because of ticket sales..the fact they had to go up against a UFC figth card and college football night..impressive to say the least.never mind mayweather is a "hometown" favorite, a house hold name who had media exposure with shows like dancing with the stars, wwf, and several commercials prior to the fight that would have prompted the casual viewer to buy a comeback fight on a boxer whom they probably had never watched before. pacquiao/cotto fight is not impressive considering both fighters are not from America, had no media exposure to the american general public other than the media fight tour and hbo 24/7 which also mayweather/marquez had as well...1.05 million is more impressive than 1.25 million any day especially as how you pointed out brilliantly!!
ok first of all. u said there was A PPV UFC fight that same night.... but you forgot to mension that spike was showing a UFC fight same night as the pac-cotto fight.. also did i mension that the ufc fight between couture and vera FREE? next time you write something make sure you have facts and infos about both fights instead of just writing about the things you know. u just wasted my time by making me read crap.
How on earth can a LOSER be a WINNER? How can a 1.25M PPV lose to a 1M PPV? Come to to think of it... Mayweather vs. Marquez were supposed to be held in July but GBP postponed it, not because of some 'invented' rib injury (i believe it as a lie)of Mayweather but because of poor ticket sales. So GBP moved it to September to buy more time and to take advantage of Mexican fans who are hyped and fooled to believe that their Marquez can miraculously beat Mayweather. Even with such 5 month adjustment of schedule, the fight could not even fill the MGM Grand. Only a fool can say that Mayweather is a clear winner. Numbers don't lie..
hey matt you aricle is a complete garbage...i just want to ask you questions that I am very intrigue about. First, why the Gayweather vs Marquez only sold $49 per PPV buy compare to Pacquiao vs Cotto $54,does it mean that Gayweather-Marquez fight is just a cheap item in a bargain shop? Second, why did the WBC World Boxing Council has offered their Diamond Championship Belt only to the Pacquiao vs Cotto fight, why didn't they offered it to the winner of the Gayweather vs Marquez fight? My answer to that is..WBC already knows before hand that the Gayweather-Marquez will just be boring fight that people will forget after they get out of the arena. unspectacular..
hayssss, another veteran writer who make his true level (or lack of)of intelligence show. there are many factors that affects PPV and you only see what transpired during the PBF-JMM fight. what about the UFC event the same day as PAC fights. have you considers the devastating typhoons who damaged asean countries b4 the fight yet they were able to buy PPV services? i can go on forever to prove that this is the damnest article ever, and the damnest smart guy that wrote it. LOLS.
Having mentioned the eventhough this and that's of the PPV buys (Texas Vs Texas Tech - I wish I watched that one instead. at least I didn't fall asleep. thank you DVR; UFC 103) you just shot yourself and your argument on the foot. It goes to show that most American viewers didn't really care about Floyd.
You forgot another big thing. That's the Mexican Independence weekend. The Mexican viewers are the ones that really carried the PPV numbers, not Floyd.
I always liked your articles, idk what happened to this one really.
Sorry man. Minues 2,000 cool points. Better luck next time.
i dont know what kind of thinking this writer has in his hallow brain. Stating that PBF fought a drained 36-yr old marquez who jumps 2 weights more than his division.. You can sense the bias on his comments.. He didnt even mention that Pac comes from 106lbs division all the way to welterweight and thats a big WOW!
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