
What's the low-down on ape hangers?
You've wondered many times, haven't you, about those guys going down the street on motorcycles with handlebars that rise up over their heads. So have I. How can those things possibly be comfortable? How do you steer the bike with that kind of set-up? What is it about them that they find appealing?
Ape hangers, that is. That's what they're called, in case you aren't aware.
Ever eager to satisfy my curiousity, as well as yours if you share mine, I started asking around. And I went to a Harley online forum to see what people there could tell me. On the forum it turned out that someone else had already asked exactly the same question I was planning, so I copied down some of the responses. Here's what I found.
Cool factor
First off, the guys who have ape hangers like the way they look. No surprise there; you wouldn't put them on your bike if you thought they looked ugly, or even if you were indifferent to their look.
Says Ugly John on the forum, "I used to ride a hardtail chopper that had some radical apes on it. Just made the chopper look right for the style of chopper it was. My current ride is an Ultra and in my own personal opinion, apes would look out of place."
"Ape hangers came stock on my Wide Glide," says Rob Taylor, "and I do like them. I'm contemplating getting higher ones."
Adds Lorenzo Perez, "Ape hangers are not for everybody and I've seen them taken to some crazy extremes, but they make a statement that isn't just about being different from the other guy. They are a nod to our biker past, they denote a bit of the rebel that Biker Nation has always been part of, and once a guy gets used to them I can't imagine riding my bike any other way."
A choice for comfort
Perhaps more surprisingly to a lot of people, ape hangers are appreciated for the comfort they provide.
Says Lorenzo, "Form, at least in my case does not compromise function. I'm six four and ride a small bike, I NEED to stretch out, as I found the stock bars on my scooter to be cramped and would bump my knees in a tight turn."
"They're better on my back," says Rob. "I'm not leaning forward and that keeps my back a little straighter."
The higher you go, though, the more the situation changes. Says dblkick from the forum, "If you stay between 12" and 16" you can benefit from them. Try not to go above the shoulders. Apes keep your back straight and your head is a decent position for riding. So if your neck gets too stiff or you get that knot in your back between your shoulder blades, try apes."
Rhino, on the forum, says "I've got tall apes on my chopper. Puts my hands about level with my ears. They're really not comfortable and definitely have control issues. The bike is basicaly a bar hopper and street cruiser that doesn't see many miles so I can tolerate it. Certainly wouldn't have 'em on my hiway bike."
What about safety?
So what is it like trying to steer the bike with those high apes? Iffy seems to be the consensus.
"The ride does change the higher you go," says martin14 from the forum. "If your hands are above your heart, eventually they will fall asleep on a long ride, so you need to shake them once in a while. Apes make the bike more difficult at slow speeds, but better for cruising."
Also from the forum, ugocon adds, "Sure, they're not fit for riding fast in a winding mountain road, braking hard before each curve and dropping the bike on its side to run it: you need a lower handlebar and a more advanced position on the bike to do it! But going quietly, no hurry, slowing properly before hairpins.... it's a great ride and I enjoy it!"
RichardS, also from the forum, expresses his skepticism saying, "There are a LOT, and I mean a LOT, of 'weekend warriors' who want the iconic look of the colors-wearing patched member of whatever movie they saw that looks so 'cool' to them, and those posers do up their rides with these bars and will NEVER admit to anyone that they have a hard time negotiating the bike around town with those super high apes on the bike and they would have been much better off never installing them.
"They are INCREDIBLY hard to ride with! Lack of control, arm fatigue, and the kind of attention from the police that we often don't find pleasant. If they are right for YOU, hey, I respect that, absolutely! But try before you buy, and the high likelihood is, you won't buy!"
There are those who do buy, however, and have no regrets. We'll let ugocon sum up his take on ape hangers.
"I do love the look of the bike with the Ape Hanger: it really looks like........freedom!"
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Comments
Great article Ken. I have ridden two bikes with Apes and they turn a relatively good handling motorcycle into something I don't even want to be on. The 2nd-to-last guy you quoted got it right: They are for posers. Period.
I have mini apes that came stock on my street bob, and I am agree with the comfort factor. I also had mini apes installed on my 2005 sportster. I sometimes ride my husband's softail with relatively straight bars and am more comfortable with the mini apes.
thanks Ken, I too always wondered....and scoffed. But, one rides one's own ride as they say.....
My Low Rider has a riser and pull backs rolled a little forward installed to not only clear the new tank but for a comfortable reach for me (a vertically-challenged person). They look like mini apes and that is just another attention getter for me.
Good article Ken. Jack - you only speak for yourself.
After the stock drag-style bars on my Deuce, then an extra 1.5" pullback, I switched to Ness 18" apes. My arms are roughly at shoulder height and it's great.
Now I have 2 points (hands and shoulders) supporting my arms instead of just my shoulders. The added width and leverage makes for uprighting the bike easier and a lighter touch in the twisties.
It's a very natural feeling and I thoroughly enjoy them. The fact they made my bike look cooler was icing on the cake.
Rob
I agree with you Rob. I purchased my Street Bob with 12 " mini-apes. 1 month later I put 14" on it. 2 months later I put 16" on it. Now I have 16" with 2" risers. The pain in myneck and shoulders isnt as bad and a little more comfortable.
As for riding, I ride in the CA mountains twice a month and have had no issues with 'the twisties'.
And the cool factor is definatley there.
Ed
Posers are the ones who complain about the really cool bikes with ape hangers..and the really cool guys who have them. Now, go pose with your stock Yamaha or Honda VTX and STFU.
For those who are curious.....I have a Dyna...with Chubby Wild 1s....16 inch Apes...2 inch rise.....and when compared to the stock Dyna bars I took off years ago.....Very very very comfortable. Comfortable on the street..and more so on the highway. AND..yes...always an AND......02 RoadGlide....with 16inch LA Chopper Slim Muthas. I gotta admit, I do not miss the stock bagger bars at all.....bars were low, uncomfortable.....THE APES make the bike look, meaner, fatter...and the control factor.....is great...I am not worried about zipping around the curves draggin my knees, I am not worried about cruising at 140MPH like those idiotic future organ donors, I get where I am goin...when I get there.....and no blood transfusions or skin grafts will ever be needed.
I'm with you Centurion. I scoff at the people who call me a poser. 18's on my FXSTC. LOVE THEM.
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