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Tim Graney vs. Ron Paul: Christmas Day terror attack

By now, many are familiar with Tim Graney. He is a citizen of Katy, Texas, a staunch Conservative, and one of the most personable candidates you would ever want to meet. He's been busy attending functions and events all over Aransas, Brazoria, Calhoun, Chambers, Fort Bend, Galveston, Jackson, Matagorda, Victoria and Wharton Counties. He announced his bid for the 14th Congressional District last October.  

Following is his latest press release to ring in the new year:

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:


Statement by Republican Candidate Tim Graney on Christmas Day Terror Attack


Katy, TX – December 31, 2009 – The airline terror attack on Christmas Day was a failure to the security of the United States and to the 300 innocent passengers aboard the aircraft.  This failed attempt was unsuccessful not because government played its role, but because average citizens had the courage to act.  Security failures of this magnitude are unacceptable.  Our enemies across the globe, subscribing to a radical Islamic worldview, will continue to plan and attempt terror attacks on U.S. soil as long as they are alive and allowed to function.  Our radical Islamic enemies are driven to attack us due to religious ideology, and it is their unflinching hatred of Western ways which fuels their actions.  America did not ask for this failed terrorist attempt on Christmas Day and it is simply inaccurate to say that our actions caused this horrible act.  In response to the attack, Congressman Ron Paul stated, “They’re terrorists because we’re occupiers.”  If Paul knew the realities of our military then he would know that we are not occupiers of any land.  The only land we have asked for is enough to bury the men and women who gave their lives fighting for our freedom.  Ron Paul incorrectly believes America is reaping what it has sown around the globe, and in his eyes this attack is an example of what America deserves when it tries to extend peace, democracy, and inclusion throughout the world.  In short, Paul’s ideas on foreign policy are a danger to the safety and security of America.  He is not doing his duty as a Representative; instead pushing his own ideology and ineffectively representing the people of the 14th District of Texas.  We know why we are under attack and we know that we need to bring the fight to our enemies, but Ron Paul lacks this understanding and the resolve to do what is right.  We deserve better than Ron Paul.

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  • annonomys 4 years ago

    I completely disagree with Mr. Graney's assessment of Ron Paul's service to his district for TWELVE TERMS. Mr. Graney's facts are a not quite accurate. He says we are not occupiers. Really? Anywhere?? How many military bases does the US have and are currently occupying the world? The number is somewhere around 130. How would we as Americans feel if other countries came to the US and set up military bases on our land?

    We are trying to 'extend' peace, democracy and inclusion? 'Extend'? Force our way of life on others is more like it. Hopefully most of the people in that district can spot Mr. Graney's comments as campaign rehetoric because that's all that it sounds like it is to me.

  • Alex 4 years ago

    Actually, the reaction to our big government solutions we foist on FOREIGNERS (don't conservatives recoil at our government's intervenionism domestically? How about a foreign government doing that - but that is what we do to them.) was identified by our CIA as BLOWBACK citing the case of Operation Ajax (which most Americans are still woefully ignorant about) where we overthrew a representative democracy in Iran to replace it with dictatorial monarch. We also support the royalist system in Saudi Arabia. We have supported the military junta in Pakistan. We have opposed democracy in Gaza. We opposed the entry of Taiwan in to the UN in order to curry favor with a communist China. Our actions have been quite different than what Americans think our government is doing and what they are supposed to stand for. And I can tell by reading from this challenger he doesn't get it, either.

  • kd 4 years ago

    Just what we need in Congress, another fool who simply wraps the American flag around himself and slaps the conservative label on his forehead, while he apparently has little understanding of government's Constitutional role in our Grand Republic.It seems Mr. Graney's ignorance is only exceeded by his arrogance.

  • Bill 4 years ago

    "The only land we have asked for is enough to bury the men and women who gave their lives fighting for our freedom."

    Oh, so that's why we need an embassy bigger than the Vatican in Iraq and hundreds of square miles for military bases. Thanks for explaining that, Grainy.

  • TejasLibertarian 4 years ago

    If Graney thinks that this so-called War on Terrorism is so great, why isn't he over there putting his life on the line? So what that Ron has been in for year. His understanding of the Constitution and personal integrity are what separate him from the rest of the Parasites on the Pomotac who live off of us.

  • james 4 years ago

    After reading an opening statement like that one, you can notch this guy on Dr. Paul's belt right now.

  • Nadorn 4 years ago

    I imagine Tim Graney will immediately enlist in the Marine Corps to take the fight to the Great Islamic Devil in the east.

    No?

    One of his sons, maybe?

    Not likely, huh?

  • okKO 4 years ago

    Graney no brainy. Surely he has a D behind his name in all govt matters because he certainly does display it here. This is good because it simply strengthens Ron Paul's known wisdom and truth telling. In my opinion.

  • MichaelC 4 years ago

    This fellow seems like just another neo-con chicken-hawk. He seems to hate liberty and love empire. He is also in denial about what causes terrorism, which is the US's occupation of foreign countries. Thankfully, this clue-less warmonger will be destroyed in the election by Ron Paul.

  • TonyDiaz 4 years ago

    These war-mongering neocon chickenhawks are so asinine that it's not even funny anymore. It's scary to think that there are still hordes of Bushian police statists that think we should fight terrorism with more terrorism and that people still take them seriously. Luckily, I'm optimistic that Ron Paul will again be victorious in his primary run and the general election. We need more people like Ron in office.

  • SSgt Alexander Schlegel 4 years ago

    This guy is delussional. As a Staff Sergeant in the US Air Force that took an oath to Support and Defend the US Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic , I would categorize Mr. Graney a domestic enemy. I guess he skip over Article 1 section 8 that Congress has the power to declare war.I really enjoyed his line below that he does not understand the military.

    "In response to the attack, Congressman Ron Paul stated, “They’re terrorists because we’re occupiers.” If Paul knew the realities of our military then he would know that we are not occupiers of any land."

    I guess he forgot the fact that Ron Paul received the most campaign contributions from active duty personel(myself included) than all Presidential canidates combined.

    Good luck Mr. Graney trying to win your primary with your myopic view on the Middle East and why terrorism is a threat to our Republic.

    Ron Paul 2010 (President 2012)

  • Amy 4 years ago

    Reminds me to send Ron some money for his campaign!

  • Chris Mallory 4 years ago

    I wonder what Mr. Graney would do if someone bombed his daughter's(or son's) wedding with a missile from an unmanned drone? Or dragged his sons away in the middle of the night because they just happen to be of military age? Would Mr. Graney fight back any way he could? Or would he be a Quisling?

  • Barney 4 years ago

    Mr Graney is a LIAR. Dr Paul never said America reaps or deserves to be attacked. Dr Paul merely ask that people examine their motives for attacking us.

    Paul unlike Graney is well read on the subject, from the 9/11 report to Robert Pape's "Dying to Win" both of which sided with Paul that our foreign policy produce unintended consequences (blowback) and that the primary motivation for suicide terrorism is OCCUPATION! Is Mr Graney unaware that Al Qaeda was radicalized by the CIA and Saddam was once an ally to the US?

    In his 2008 campaign, Dr Paul got more donations from the military that all the candidates COMBINED, Democrat and Republican! Looks to me the servicemen has a better understanding of world affairs than this dupe seeking office.

    And how hypocritical of Mr Graney to claim a creedo of "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" on his website. Is Mr Graney ready to accept the slaughter of his family and friends as "collateral damage"?

  • Ohio Supports Dr. Paul 4 years ago

    Thanks Mr. Graney-your one of the best things that could happen to "help" get the good Dr. re-elected in his district. Have you learned nothing from Sen. neocon L. Grahm that you look ridiculous when you speak of the good congressman that way. It only shows your lack of knowledge and more importantly the lack of leadership abilities. I suggest you re-think your fear mongering ideaology and stay in the stay in the private sector arena where you can't do any harm other than to your reputation. Also brush up on your foreign policy thinking..not that you'll you ever need to other than the satisfaction at being able to "honestly apologize" to the good Dr. for your assinine statment.... campaignforliberty.com/edu/foreign-policy.php this may a be a good starting point in your "enlightenment" as many of these people are more inclined to understand "terrorism" than you.

    ..and yes, it's time to send some money to Dr. Paul's re-election campaign....

    Thanks again Mr. Graney ;)

  • Don 4 years ago

    @James - well said. Right on! :)

  • Farmer 4 years ago

    Mr. Graney, on your website bio you make the statement, "Both of my parents worked in education and they taught me much in life including the golden rule, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." I have taken that to heart over the years and do try to live by those words."

    If you actually believe that the U.S. is 'extending peace, democracy, and inclusion throughout the world' via bombing and killing, then any attacks against Americans fit into your alleged adherence to the golden rule.

    You really need to step down and cease embarrassing yourself. There is nothing remotely close to healthy in what you represent.

  • Al Santos 4 years ago

    Mr. Graney's political career will be short lived. Dr. Paul will defeat him easily with the nonsense this chickenhawk is spewing.

    America is waking up and rejecting ignorant, bloated buffoons like No Brainey Graney.

  • Eric Weber 4 years ago

    The neo-con capacity for self-deception is the real shock and awe. When you invade and "occupy" a country for eight years do you think the locals are just going to respond with a pat on the back. I'm sure Graney thinks that everyone should buy the American exception to every rule but guess what - they don't Graney. If, as pointed out elsewhere on this thread, America were invaded ("for our own good") do you think we would respond in any other way? Get a grip.

  • Matt 4 years ago

    Ha, do these people not realize this tired and arrogant rhetoric has already been rejected by eighty-plus percent of the American people? Guess not.

  • Jay 4 years ago

    The last time I read something by this delusional chicken-hawk, I made a campaign contribution to Dr. Paul. Guess I'm going to do it again. Mr Graney's assumes the public has a very poor understanding of the reality of our foreign policy and its consequences. God help us if he should ever be elected to any public office.

  • Mike 4 years ago

    Are any of you from the 14th district?

  • Abdullah 4 years ago

    "Oh look Sayed, an american cia drone has bombed Achmed's house, and killed our father, mother, and two of our cousins. This makes me love the United States, and makes me wish to never hurt anyone from america. The more of our friends and family they bomb, the more we like them." (????????) Can this idiot Tim Graney be any more stupid?

  • Abdullah 4 years ago

    I live in sugarland.

  • Ian 4 years ago

    WHY DOESN'T RON PAUL WANT TO DEBATE TIM GRANEY? He wanted to debate Ben Stein on the issue of foreign policy. Why not instead debate someone his constituents can actually vote for? If Graney is a chicken hawk, then RP is just flat out chicken for not wanting to debate him.

  • Dan 4 years ago

    This guy should share a snuggie with Sean Hannity and watch Bush's first State of the Union after 9/11 and then hook up

  • Jeff 4 years ago

    Graney has no brainy. Read up on real research on suicide terrorists and realize that the major reason for them to do this is foreign occupation and/or bombing of their lands and people by a foreign nation. Why is it that a neutral country like Switzerland, which is as modern as the US, has NO terrorism problems at all??? Because Switzerland occupies NO foreign lands. But the US has troops stationed in 130 countries all over the world, including Iraq, Saudia Arabia, and is also bombing Pakistand and threatening to bomb Iran and Yemen. It is called Blowback and the CIA and every other honest intelligent observer of this phenomenon knows this, but you are acting like you don't have a clue. I think you are smarter than you appear, you are purposely telling lies, including lying about excactly what Ron Paul has said. Graney, you ought to be ashamed of yourself, you bald-faced liar.

  • Senior Airman Dan Webb, USAF 4 years ago

    Graney, shut the hell up, I have been deployed 5 times, we are occupiers, they hate us for that and all the Middle Eastern people the U.S. military has murdered. They hate us for our way of life and our culture? 4th graders might buy that, but intelligent adults don't. New Zealand for example has a society very similar to ours, they do not attack NZ..Thats because NZ isn't responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of innocent Middle Easterners.

  • RPCT 4 years ago

    Tim Graney is a jackass. He has no original thought in his head, only that which has been bullet pointed somewhere for him. I would call him a retard, but that would be an insult to retarded people. Just what we need, one more reactionary statist parasite in lieu of the honest, principled, honorable, constitional, freedom fighter we have in Ron Paul.

  • Marty 4 years ago

    Nadorn, that might be a war I could get behind. Tim
    Graney and his kids taking direct fire, amongst all the other amoral neocons leading their divisions into battle. Just make sure no one gives Dick Cheney a shotgun as friendly fire could be an issue. (Just ask his huntin' buddy)

  • Tony 4 years ago

    Ian,

    A Graney/Paul debate would be good because it would make Graney out for the rhetoric spewing chickenhawk that he is. You can only repeat talking points so many times before you prove your incompetence to EVERYONE.

    Graney is just another warmongering jackass (that probably draft dodged in his earlier days).

  • Samuel Adams 4 years ago

    Dear Tim,

    Have you noticed how post 9/11, 'essential Liberty' has taken a nosedive ?

    We are constructing a police state in response to 'terrorism'.

    If China fought a war on our soil, built miliary bases here, would you sit idly by ?

    I bet not. You'd fight them, as would I.

    Well, Tim, powerful US based, but Globalist industries, are pushing our military to expand the empire worldwide.

    They care not a whit how many American sons die in 'taking ground' and buying off 3rd world nations, in their quest for 'natural resources'.

    This ,sir, is EXACTLY what Britian was doing to the American colonies. Yet we yearned & fought for Liberty.

    We were justified in fighting Britain, just as so called 'terrorist' are in wanting us 'out of their lands'.

    Until we leave their lands, we can't know exactly how much of their action is due to 'blowback' & unjust hatred for our Christians faith.

    God has empowered NO EMPIRE to rule the world . (That Job is already His !)

  • TooCon 4 years ago

    This Graney is a chickenhawk and he is the right age for draft dodgers. And this fat hog is not nearly as good a challenger as the attractive and wholesome neocon warmonger, Chris Peden, was in 2008. So I conclude that Peden was the real party-backed tool and this current crop of Paul challengers are ad hoc.

    I've also read that Graney's business has largely failed at this point.

    This might be a way to get free advertising for his business, make new contacts in GOP circles. Also, RP is old enough that he'll get gadfly opponents just because he might die or retire prior to the primary, leaving whoever happened to file as the winner.

  • Jim 4 years ago

    Islam has been around 1400 years and the US for a bit over 200. In the 1200 years that Islam existed before the US, Muslims marched out of their original lands and sacked most of Europe. Along the way, they occupied and enslaved the peoples they conquered. After all, that is what is decreed for Muslims to do.
    To equate Islam with religions such as Christianity or Judaism is a profound mistake, since Islam includes religion, government and law. It is a total and inseparable package.
    Do they hate us? Yes. Do they hate us more when we act against them militarily? Probably so. But that doesn't change the fundamental fact that they will attempt to bring down our society softly or through violence. They hate free people everywhere.
    If we recalled all our troops from everywhere in the world, they will still want to kill us.
    Dar al Islam (house of peace) exists only where Islam rules. Dar al Harb (house of war) exists at the borders and everywhere Islam is absent. Their rules, not ours.

  • Mitch 4 years ago

    NEOCON = Electoral Loser.

  • Jive Dadson 4 years ago

    1. The crotch bomber did not fail because of "average citizens." He failed because the thing didn't explode as it was supposed to.

    2. The "average citizen" who had the courage to take action was a Swedish film maker.

    Americans, quit cowering. After over 9 years of this, isn't it time to quit letting people like Graney keep playing on our irrational fears? The crotch bombers would have to bring down three of those big airliners EVERY WEEK to equal the number of people who are killed in automobile accidents in the US. But no one wants a federal agency to monitor every car trip. Just get on the danged plane. If you want to do something political about airport security, work to get the TSA out of our lives.

  • fironzelle 4 years ago

    Jim said: "Dar al Islam (house of peace) exists only where Islam rules. Dar al Harb (house of war) exists at the borders and everywhere Islam is absent."

    That is civilization in a nutshell. If Islam was as good at war as the US, we'd really have some fireworks in the world.

  • Is it true? 4 years ago

    I have heard some people from Texas claim that Graney is a homosexual, and that he is known in the local gay community as a "bottom," whatever that means. Is it true? Why doesn't Tim Graney respond to these allegations and clear the record?

  • Skip 4 years ago

    And it's not a "Press Release"; Radio, TV and Video news agencies don't use printing presses. The closest machine in their arsenal to a press is a laser printer. Try "News Release", it's one size that fits all.

  • Jive Dadson 4 years ago

    1. The crotch bomber did not fail because of "average citizens." He failed because the thing didn't explode as it was supposed to.

    2. The "average citizen" who had the courage to take action was a Swedish film maker.

    Americans, quit cowering. After over 9 years of this, isn't it time to quit letting people like Graney keep playing on our irrational fears? The crotch bombers would have to bring down three of those big airliners EVERY WEEK to equal the number of people who are killed in automobile accidents in the US. But no one wants a federal agency to monitor every car trip. Just get on the danged plane. If you want to do something political about airport security, work to get the TSA out of our lives.

  • Ian 4 years ago

    RON PAUL WON'T DEBATE TIM GRANEY because that would expose Ron Paul's 20 useless years of rhetoric and NO CHANGE. What has Ron Paul done for Texas in the last 2 decades?

  • MiBu 4 years ago

    This Graney guy needs to take history lessons. Most products of the government school system have figured out that foreign armies usually don't produce good relations for the local population. That's like the goomer, Hannity, saying they attacked is because "they don't like our way of life." Is that why everyone's moving to the the US? Has he ever been in?

  • Lorin Partain 4 years ago

    "we are not occupiers of any land" The aspiring congressman is out to lunch, Here is the real info.

    just wiki : Deployments_of_the_United_States_Military

  • Samuel Adams 4 years ago

    Jim, what you say about Islam is quite true.

    I must admit, Dr. Paul would make a more credible argument if he admited the expansionary & warlike nature of Islam.

    (I've heard Islam called a 'political ideology masquerading as a religion' - good point, eh?)

    Ok, but that being said, Islam went absolutely howhere during the past 500 years - why ?

    Because it is a religion of the flesh that is 'stuck in the mud' - it's theoelogy calls men to 'stay put'whereas the Bibical faith of Christians calls them to a more peaceful expansion. Until recently, when the weatlth of America since about 1913, has been squandeed on wars of conqust & expansion.

    In effect, we as a christin civilization, adopted the Muslim method of exmpansion, warlike, instead of peacelike.

    This is what happens when men attempt Dominion, but not according to Christ's methods. Note in Genesis, we are given dominion over the whole created earth, but not other men. Our current system ignores this !!

  • Samuel Adams 4 years ago

    My point is that Dr. Paul is at least half - correct; we allow Muslim nations to justify their terrorism, because of our occupation of their lands.
    We probably are doing it for the purported purpose of securing a supply of oil. (bizzare because we don't use our own oil resources....).
    Anyhow, their justification for terrorism would evaporate if we didn't occupy their lands. And NOTHING in the Constutution authorized US resources to be used to build a worldwide empire. Funny how we become less free at home, as we do this abraod. Sounds like the Biblical Principle that 'you reap what you sow.

    God bless Dr. Paul in any case, he's a true Christians Statesman - you have to understand his position as he doesn't use Christian-ese buzzwords. Makes you think for once - how novel !

    If any of this sounds strange, I suggest taking an online course in Constutional literacy, which is just fabulous at www.IOTConline.com

  • Jim 4 years ago

    Islam has been around 1400 years and the US for a bit over 200. In the 1200 years that Islam existed before the US, Muslims marched out of their original lands and sacked most of Europe. Along the way, they occupied and enslaved the peoples they conquered. After all, that is what is decreed for Muslims to do.
    To equate Islam with religions such as Christianity or Judaism is a profound mistake, since Islam includes religion, government and law. It is a total and inseparable package.
    Do they hate us? Yes. Do they hate us more when we act against them militarily? Probably so. But that doesn't change the fundamental fact that they will attempt to bring down our society softly or through violence. They hate free people everywhere.
    If we recalled all our troops from everywhere in the world, they will still want to kill us.
    Dar al Islam (house of peace) exists only where Islam rules. Dar al Harb (house of war) exists at the borders and everywhere Islam is absent. Their rules, not ours.

  • Shelby 4 years ago

    I think Ron Paul is a lightning rod for all the crazies. They flock to him. Who would want a weirdo like that in office? He'd just appoint his hateful followers into positions where they can insult and bully decent folks.

  • Jim 4 years ago

    Don't simply refresh the page, or you will re-post like I just did! Doh

  • Tomás 4 years ago

    To all the supporters of the screed "they hate us for our freedoms" who continually ask our govt. to entangle us in nation building, why don't you save us all a lot of grief and just buy an M-16 and a plane ticket to Baghdad/Kabul/Waziristan/Sana'a yourself. Only thing worse than a bully in a fight is a coward on the sidelines encouraging fights they're not participating in.

  • DEE 4 years ago

    Ron Paul agrees with the CIA which came up with the term "Blowback." Look it up and you'll see what it means in terms of the U.S. sticking its nose in everybody elses business. Dr. Paul has been so correct on so many things that Tim Graney has to promote more neo-con rubbish. So, Graney, how many books have you written on the economy? How many predictions on the economy have you had come true. By the way, "It's the economy stupid" that people are concerned about.

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