I pissed off a whole lot of Democrats last week while discussing the Rand Paul Civil Rights topic. I tried explaining I was a Voluntarist but like many other people, they are stuck in the whole left/right paradigm and kept calling me a stupid Republican as well as a racist.
They all strongly believe in the right to FORCE private property business owners to serve patrons no matter what their skin color is if they do not want too. And I am not using wordplay, they repeatedly actually used the word force. I tried to explain to them how morally wrong force is and how you can run your business anyway you want but they had nothing of it. You do not have to patron a business that runs its operations in ways you disagree with, it is that simple.
No one complains about the "No shirt, No shoes, No service" rule and calls it discrimination. What if a black man ran a restaurant and a KKK member came in to dine in full white sheet and hood, would you FORCE that black man to serve the obvious racist if he doesn't want to?
If Michael Savage ran a business and a Hispanic looking person came in and he believed he was a so called "illegal" immigrant and didn't want to do business with him could he kick him out of the store? Could I kick out statists from my business if I owned one? Can I open up a bait shop and hang a sign saying "We reserve the right to refuse to do business with statists"?
A private business has every right to refuse service to someone for any reason, no one is forcing you to spend your Federal Reserve Notes at that business. That is why we have ostracism. If everyone in your town refused to do business with you, you can move to a different town or open a business that does cater to your kind.
Everyone discriminates, we discriminate when we pick who our friends are, who we date, who we marry, and even what businesses we spend money at.
And yes, you can even refuse service to a policeman if you so choose, as the anarchist Red and Black Cafe in Portland, Oregon did just the other day. A chef can always just spit in the food of someone he doesn't like but is forced to serve.
I'm not a Rand Paul fan, but he's absolutely right on this issue. Below I have added a video of John Stossel speaking in favor of Rand Paul on this issue. You can discriminate by choosing to not watch it if you like. There's no coercion on my page, I'm not the government.
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I urge you to look at the CA Unruh Civil Rights Act and its amendments (protected class defined by source of income). Granted, that's not Oregon but you might also check the Oregon Civil Rights Division page and look at the Portland Ordinance:" The Civil Rights Division is contracted to enforce the parts of these ordinances that are not protected under state law, including source of income. "
And there is no bright line where the 2nd Amendment is concerned. So I will challenge any owner to toss me out while carrying a firearm. If you think that your business is your private property, then also please consider the No Smoking laws. I can let anyone smoke in my house, but not in my business. You may not like it, I don't like it, but there it is.
Yep, you're correct. It's a illogical world we live in. Private place should be PRIVATE! My home is private, you can't force me to wash people if I don't want to in my house.
I too agree we have the right to choose our friends, associates and business partners, we have a God given right to choose which, if any, church to attend and support. This like every forced integration policy is unnatural and should be illegal on it's face.
Why would I or anyone want to go where we are unwelcome? You want schools that cater to your taste fine... you pay for them and I could care less. The NAACP accepts white members yet it does not even pretend to care about reverse discrimination and has NEVER fought for the rights of discriminated white person but, the whites who support the NAACP know this and they choose to support it anyway, good for them!
You can force me to work with people I don't like or enjoy fellowship with but, you cannot make me like it. Forced integration has created more racists than anything in the history of the planet if seperation, (by choice) were allowed I am sure we would all be a lot more tolerant.
I understand the point made by the author regarding that it is "possible" for a Chef or someone else to spit in the food of another, but let's also understand that this is in fact illegal in many states. This is a demonstration in lousy journalistic style.
There's a petition asking Rand Paul to support the Red and Black Cafe, but you can't post URLs here. Oh well, do a search and find it yourself--
Forget refusing service to a Black or almost anyone else.
Try refusing service to a Jew. That may get you 100 years in the electric chair.lol
John,
I think your opinion in regards to the point made about spitting in food has a lot more to do with your lousy comprehension than any lousy journalistic style. The point was clear, there are always other ways to sabatoge others to get around arbitrary rules, ergo forcing somebody to serve a person or group they don't like. Like Travis said, why would anyone want to patron a place where they are not liked?
Arbitrary laws such as these do far more harm than good, as well intentioned as they may be.
completely agree with the premise of the article.
all civil rights issues of today are prejudice AGAINST WHITES.
all races in America now have equality under the law.....
EXCEPT WHITES.
the white man has no legal jurisdiction, in regards to employment
or social legislation as a PRIVILEGE.
it's pure discrimination.
I personally would prefer to know what people really think and what they truly believe. I don't want people to behave in a certain way just because the law forces them to. It kind of masks and hides the problem, or channels it to different areas; it doesn't get rid of it by any means.
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