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The ONLY strategy for defeating Floyd Mayweather


  >>  Photo:  De la Hoya stepped on Floyd's foot (SI)

    . . . continued from  <<   first part

   Intro:  There is one singular strategy that has never been employed against Floyd Mayweather, Jr.  Using it would leverage the element of surprise - which is a critical variable in war.

It is a tactic that has been successfully used before, and a technique that plays to Floyd's weaknesses.  We believe that this plan will also be employed by Freddie Roach to play to Mayweather's massive ego.  We find historical examples of this warplan, including a technique that Hannibal used against several ancient Roman generals which wreaked havoc around the Italian Peninsula over 2,000 years ago.

Secondly, we continue an analysis of four boxers who (temporarily) outfought Floyd Mayweather, Jr.  Undoubtedly, "Money" will be the most prolific defensive and counter-punching opponent both Manny Pacquiao and Freddie Roach will ever face in their hall of fame careers.  That Mayweather is an early slight betting favorite in this fight is the correct initial position from the gambling marketplace.

Do not be distracted by all the name-calling and trash-talking.  That is mere noise.  The movers and shakers of the world dig beneath the surface.  A saying in investment banking:  "(Believe) half of what you see, none of what you hear."  >>   Fighter of the Year Award:  Manny Pacquiao ]


  

   Fact:   Floyd is a terrifc machine.  His talents are a significant variable in determining the outcome of this showdown.  However, the blueprint for his defeat is laid out in three fights:  the first Jose Luis Castillo fight, the early rounds of Zab Judah (covered in the first part of this article), and the second and third rounds of the Oscar de la Hoya fight in 2007.  All three fights involved Floyd Mayweather.  >>   Photos:  Mayweather vs De la Hoya  ]

We juxtapose these with five of Manny Pacquiao's bouts with two great (and smaller) counter-punchers - Erik Morales and Juan Manuel Marquez - to see if we can gather any insights.  (The second fight with Marco Antonio Barrera fight also saw a fighter that tried to counter Manny for all 12 rounds.)

No forward-looking analysis is 100% accurate.  There is no Merlin with a magic crystal ball.  However, we explore any habits from trend-analysis as well as prospective gameplans from each fighter in order to maximize each's probability for success.  Additionally, Freddie Roach has implied a strategy against Mayweather, Jr.; that his team would "set up traps."  Roach is already working hard on setting up smokescreens and mirrors for this fight, and in laying down his camp's deceptions.  We explore what "traps" may mean.  >>   Article:  Roach's Secret Strategy for Miguel Cotto  ]

   In the words of Winston Churchill:

In wartime, truth is so precious that she should always be attended by a bodyguard of lies.



  >>  Photo:  What does Roach mean by "trap?" (SI)

#  3

2007:     Oscar de la Hoya

Rounds 2 and 3  [  video  >>  ]

  The Oscar de la Hoya fight reveals a few insights.  The bigger man (Oscar) was able to back up and over-power Floyd in spurts, often pinning him against the ropes.  Oscar often stepped on Floyd's foot to keep him in place.  That allowed de la Hoya to throw in bunches, while Floyd concentrated on accuracy and points. 

Floyd does not like being pressured, and when he gave openings, he showed vulnerabilities to being hit, especially when his feet and shoulders squared up to face de la Hoya.  Manny Pacquiao's explosiveness will have enough power to force occasional and tactical retreats by Floyd.  Unfortunately for Oscar, he did not throw body punches when Floyd did square up to face him, to leave openings to the body.  Roach and Pacquiao will capitalize on what Oscar did not.


   As mentioned in page one, we believe that Manny Pacquiao has the first four rounds - the first 12 minutes - to "fully make his impression," and to effect Roach's gameplan (or several gameplans).

Lesson 3.1:  Floyd takes about two to three rounds in order to figure out his enemy, and to adjust to his strategy.  He can back up and retreat early on - but he is actually studying and observing his opponent, before figuring out how to win on points.  (See rounds 4 and 5 of the de la Hoya fight where Floyd beautifully crafts his attack and adjusts to Oscar's style.) 

Also, when Oscar tried to bully Floyd in the middle and late rounds, Floyd simply grappled, clenched, and tied up Oscar.  We believe Mayweather can do the same to Manny.  Floyd can hold him up when Manny tries to get inside.  Roach and Pacquiao will work hard at the gym to counter this, perhaps by throwing combinations right before Floyd tries to clench.  A weakness of Pacquiao, however, is that he is not particularly good at fighting inside.

Lesson 3.2:  If Floyd is ahead on the judges' scorecards for most of the first four rounds, then this fight will likely be over.  Mayweather, Jr will play keep away, and with his highly accurate pot shots (as we see below), he will cruise on to a 12-round decision. 

Lesson 3.3:  The early rounds are testing ground for Mayweather to study his opponent's movements, measure his physique and power, and analyze his style and tactics - so that he can figure out how to win on points.  (As stated, it takes him three-plus rounds to figure out an opposing force.)  While he is brilliant at this, it also reveals a major flaw and systematic weakness on his part.  Against a super fighter like Pacquiao, this is Floyd's best chance to win.  When Mayweather was forced into a firefight against then-lightweight champion Jose Luis Castillo, Floyd's brittle hands and suspect chin saw him out-gunned several times during that fight.  The same happened early on with the Judah fight. 

These three lessons will factor into how Freddie Roach formulates his customized strategy against Floyd Mayweather, Jr.  Might we be so bold as to suggest that we know what that gameplan will be.

   In the words of Prussian General Carl von Clausewitz:


If the enemy is to be coerced, you must put him in a situation that is even more unpleasant than the sacrifice you call on him to make. The hardships of the situation must not be merely transient - at least not in appearance. Otherwise, the enemy would not give in, but would wait for things to improve.


   According to Pacquiao sparmate Shawn Porter: "If the referee lets them fight inside a lot, Mayweather could be in trouble. If he allows Mayweather to tie Manny up without warning and deductions he (Floyd) will win a very easy fight.  But if he lets them fight it out?  It could be a war and go either way."

>>   Comeback of the Year:  Floyd Mayweather, Jr  ]  In the chart below, we explore six fights between a puncher and counter-puncher, all involving either Manny Pacquiao or Floyd Mayweather, Jr.  There is no time limit to this exercise.  Thus, you are invited to review the statistics below for a few minutes.  Take your time.

The numbers with the plus (+) sign reveal how many more punches were thrown or landed, or reveal how much more accurate a fighter was against his opponent.  The plus (+) sign is the differential, or the margin.

Puncher vs Counter-Puncher Total Landed
Total Thrown Accuracy
 Oscar De la Hoya             122             587   (+106)        21%
 Floyd Mayweather, Jr             207   (+85)
            481        43%   (+22%)
 Manny Pacquiao (Marquez 2)             157             619   (+108)        25%
 JM Marquez (Marquez 2)             172   (+15)             511        34%   (+9%)
 Manny Pacquiao (Marquez 1)             148             639   (+92)        23%
 JM Marquez (Marquez 1)             158   (+10)             547        29%   (+6%)

                                                                         

Puncher vs Counter-Puncher Total Landed Total Thrown Accuracy
 Pacquiao (P) vs E Morales (E) 3           94   (+50)         175   (+4)         54%   (+28%)
Pacquiao (P) vs E Morales (E) 3           44         171         26%
 Pacquiao (P) vs E Morales (E) 2          196   (+12)         795   (+151)         25%
 Pacquiao (P) vs E Morales (E) 2          184          644          29%   (+4%)
 Pacquiao (P) vs E Morales (E) 1           217          894   (+180)         24%
 Pacquiao (P) vs E Morales (E) 1           265   (+48)          714         37%   (+13%)

   Styles make fights, sure.  And you cannot compare apples to oranges.  Still, working with limited data we are forced to extrapolate a few key observations from the above chart:

Chart Lesson 1:  Against de la Hoya, Floyd threw much fewer punches (106 less) than Oscar.  Why?  Floyd does not like opening himself up to being countered.  Floyd spent the first three rounds studying Oscar.  He became much more effective and accurate from the fourth round on after learning de la Hoya's style and timing.  Floyd learned to read and telegraph Oscar's punches.  His adjustments allowed him to land 7+ more punches per round.  Over the course of 12 rounds, that led to 85 more landed punches for Floyd.  He also was an incredible 22% more accurate.  More landed punches won him the decision victory.

Implication:  Freddie Roach stated that Manny and himself will set up "traps" for Floyd.  Many boxing observers will take that to mean that Pacquiao will work on getting Floyd to attack, so that Mayweather will be open to counters.  That would be similar to what they did to Miguel Cotto.  As soon as Cotto grew confident in his left jab, Manny lunged forward with his blinding combinations.

Wrong!   Do not be mistaken, Roach's "trap" is not a physical trap.  It is a mental trap.  Think back to Churchill's quote.  Roach wants Camp Mayweather to think that Manny will start the fight like he did with Cotto - slow and cerebral, that way the bigger man thinks the "smaller man" is vulnerable.  And that Floyd can pick Manny apart with accuracy in the early rounds, and score points with the judges.  Pure deception from Roach.

What is the real trap?  What is the real strategy?  What did Germany do in World War II that worked while being surrounded by enemies on all fronts?

Once Floyd believes these deceptions, the Roach-Pacman tandem will execute their true strategy.  An unforeseen, unpredictable Blitzkrieg from the opening bell.  Full assault.  No holds barred.  Roach and Pacquiao will go for an early KO, if they can get it.  From now on, we refer to this strategy as the "Blitzkrieg Strategy."

If an early KO does not materialize, the plan still serves two benefits:  it will soften up Floyd for a later-round breakdown.  He does not take punches well.  Secondly, it may put Pacquiao ahead on the scorecards, which would force Mayweather to fight aggressively later on to try and win back points.  And we saw in the Judah and Castillo fight that Floyd is not an excellent fighter when forced to go on the offensive.  His bread and butter is his shoulder roll defense, which allows him to score points with a very short left hook, or a lightning quick straight from his right.  If someone goes inside, Floyd clenches and ties him up.

Infantry must move forward to close with the enemy.  It must shoot in order to move . . . . To halt under fire is folly.  To halt under fire and not fire back is suicide  - General George S. Patton

Chart Lesson 2:   Manny threw about 100 punches more per fight against Juan Manuel Marquez.  These were two hotly contested bouts.  Despite being much more active, Marquez always landed more punches than Pacquiao.  JMM landed 10 more in the second fight, and 15 more in the first fight.  Manny threw more, JMM landed more.  JMM was more accurate.

Implication:  The theory that Pacquiao will beat Floyd on high work rate is a misleading and incomplete story.  As both JMM fights show (and Floyd is much better than JMM), Manny Pacquiao executing a high work rate does not work over the course of 12 rounds.  In Pacquiao's last loss in 2005, to the counter-punching Erik Morales, Manny threw 180 more punches over 12 rounds, but El Terrible landed nearly 50 more blows.  Morales was more accurate.  Again, for Pacquiao, high work rate over 12 rounds does not work against counter-punchers.  Roach knows this.  He was there working the corner.

This supports the Blitzkrieg Strategy.  Pacquiao will have a high work rate against Floyd - but in the early rounds - as he goes for an early stoppage and / or for early points.

   A second theorem.  You cannot succeed as a formulaic fighter against Floyd.  You need multiple strategies.  After the early Blitz, and if Floyd is still standing (most likely he will be), Pacquiao and Roach can execute a more "normal gameplan."

If  he trails on the judges' cards, Floyd will be forced to fight more aggressively (to try and win by decision).  These efforts are covered in the following slideshow with diagrams.  There are plenty of details here, we leave that for your own thinking. 

But Marco Antonio Barrera did say that Manny will need to lunge to his left in order to land a left hook to Floyd's face or body - he believes that is how you beat his tight shoulder roll defense.  We would only add that Pacquiao could also throw uppercuts when he does move to his left.  Additionally, he can throw right hooks to Floyd's left side of the body (see pic to the left), as well as, counter Floyd when the latter comes in.  When Floyd attacked Judah early on (Floyd was being egoistic), the latter timed him with a quick right that sent Floyd's gloves grazing on the canvas (technically a knockdown).

Chart Lesson 3   The third Morales fight shows that the Blitz can shock an opponent.  In under three rounds, Manny threw nearly as much as Morales (175 punches).  However, Pacquiao landed 94 punches to only 44 for Morales.  An incredible 54% vs 26% connect rate in favor of Manny. 

Implication:  The third Morales fight shows that Manny Pacquiao can throw in blinding bunches but still achieve high accuracy.  If the Blitz strategy works, that means he will blast all kinds of powerful barrages at Floyd in the first three to four rounds (it takes Floyd three rounds to adjust to a gameplan), and potentially still be accurate.  The high work rate combined with high accuracy will translate to points racked up on the judges' scorecards.

It is important to note that Ricky Hatton applied the full court press on Floyd early in their fight, which bothered Mayweather.  A big left from Hatton sent Floyd tumbling back in the early rounds, which forced Mayweather to grab the ropes to maintain his balance.  However, we can suggest that no one has ever tried a "shock and awe" Blitz attack on Floyd, which means there is still a critical element of surprise in this plan of attack.

In the words of General George S. Patton:

It is only by doing things others have not that one can advance.

If the Roach-Pacquiao team tries something cute or fancy early on, it may be something that Floyd has already seen and / or something that Floyd can easily adjust to with his superior boxing skills.  Blitzkrieg - the Manny Pacquiao version - is something Floyd has not yet experienced, and thus have not learned to deal with.  And if Roach succeeds in his mind games, Floyd (and his camp) will not be expecting it either.



  DeMarcus Corley vs Mayweather (HBO Sports)

#  4

2004:     DeMarcus Corley

Rounds 3 and 4 [ video ] and Round 5 [ video ]

From rounds three to five, Floyd Mayweather, Jr stood toe-to-toe and went offensive against DeMarcus Corley in a 140 lb bout in 2004.  Not using his shoulder roll defense as much in these early rounds, Floyd's stance allowed him to be countered by the spirited Corley.  The latter's power also appeared to affect Floyd in certain spurts, and Corley landed hooks by way of counter punches.  Floyd became effective when he in turn countered Corley. 

This fight is important for a reason.  In the speculations and pre-fight analyses that will circulate in the weeks leading up to the Pacquiao vs Mayweather showdown, many will note that Roach will somehow try to open up Floyd early in the fight by getting him to throw his jabs and right straights. 

Freddie Roach's Gameplan:

If you buy into (and believe) the above arguments, then we believe the optimal strategic warplan for defeating Floyd Mayweather, Jr (40-0) is in the following:

  1. "Shock and awe" Blitzkrieg attack in the first four rounds.  Go for early stoppage, and at the very least, earn points from judges. 
  2. The critical element for #1 is Manny's ability to be accurate despite throwing high volumes of punches.  High work rate (in the early rounds) by Pacquiao must be accompanied by accuracy (i.e.,  third Morales fight).  If Pacquiao is not accurate, Floyd will make him pay dearly with counters that will be accurate and highly effective - particularly in the form of a straight right that will travel so fast Manny will not see them coming.
  3. Manny Pacquiao has four rounds to swarm Floyd.  He must force his enemy to be incapable of thinking.  The clever smarts of Mayweather must be rendered incapacitated.  That is the art of warfare.  In past fights, Roach and Pacquiao have taken away the physical arsenal of opponents - i.e., they took away Oscar's left hook.  For this fight, Roach and Manny will focus on taking away their enemy's mental prowess.
  4. To overwhelem Floyd, Roach and Manny will work daily on honing the ability to cut off the ring, so that Pacquiao can fully leverage his explosiveness.  The big weapons will be the lunging left hook, a right hook to the body, and the occasional "Mt. Pinatubo" uppercut.  Blows to the body also cannot be underestimated in significance.  Floyd hates being hit in the face - he is "Pretty Boy" - and that may leave openings to the body.

Historical Perspective:

Nazi Germany laid the modern template for Blitzkrieg during World War II.  Time was the critical factor in their war, as they were completely surrounded by opposing or neutral forces by land and by water.  Thus, they had to win quickly.  Similarly, Roach will prefer to not let the fight drag out.  That would increase the chance of Floyd being able to dictate the tempo and pace.

In the ancient world, Hannibal (one of the ancient world's greatest military commanders) had an interest in directly engaging with the Roman legions (so long as landscape and weather conditions were favorable).  Several Roman generals had particularly massive egos.  Hannibal tailored his strategy to play these egos like strings on a guitar.  To show nearby towns that Rome was no threat to the invading Gauls, Hannibal marched his armies in clear view of fortified cities, taunting the generals - to get them to come out and fight. 

One general set up camp near a river.  Hannibal attacked them in early dawn, knowing the commanding general was hot-tempered.  The general ordered his troops to chase Hannibal's forces across the river.  The Roman legions, early in the morning, crossed the ice cold river.  The Romans got surrounded and was slaughtered on the other side.  In one direct engagement, the Gauls (Hannibal's side) slaughtered over 60,000 Romans in six hours.

The lesson?  Military commanders throughout history have shown that there is a way to make a smart enemy (temporarily) mentally incapable.  You do that by removing information or by supplying false data (deception).  You keep him guessing.  Your forces become unpredictable, with no trace of trend or habit.  Make sure he cannot think properly.  In boxing's setting, that is accomplished with the Blitz.  Commanders have also played to their opponent's ego; getting them to make mistakes based on emotion and / or sense of self-importance.  In thousands of years of warfare, there have been thousands of opposing commanders with a personality trait similar to Floyd Mayweather, Jr.


   Conclusion:  When the scrolls are written, there will be a story to this Blitz strategy.  And it is symbolic.  If Pacquiao can pull it off, he will have come full circle in his life and in his boxing career.  A street brawler from the alleys of General Santos.  To an evolved two-fisted boxer.  And back to brawler.

Final Lesson:  When you have a clever, smart fighter, do not fight him in games requiring cleverness or smarts. Fight him in areas that require strength and brute force.  In school, there is a way to defeat the smartest guy in class.  You beat him into submission in basketball or football.  You give him a bloody nose.  You taunt him.  Make him feel like coming from a privileged background somehow takes away from his manhood.  You break his will and morale.  If, however, you allow a smart fighter and / or student to oppose you in ways of the books, poetry, the arts, you are dead.  You have played to his strengths, and in the art of warfare that is suicide.

Floyd Mayweather, Jr is undefeated at 40-0 in part because he has out-thought and out-adjusted his opponents.  By way of the same analogy, why would Roach want to give him a chance to think?  Why would "Master" Freddie give Mayweather the opportunity to study his opponent, and to adjust to a formulaic style?

There is a final and dark reason from Freddie Roach and Manny Pacquiao to implement an early Blitzkrieg:  respect.  Floyd is dismissive of Manny and considers him "easy work."  The Mayweathers have been insulting "joke coach" Roach.  We believe that Freddie wants to sadistically exact revenge, and that Manny wants to force Floyd to respect him, not in a good way, but by way of savagery.   Muhammad Ali incessantly taunted Joe Frazier, calling him an "ugly gorilla."  Only when Frazier brought him to the brink of death, in 14 rounds of hell, did Ali finally respect him inside and outside of the ring.  Ali himself said that he felt he was going to die in "Thrilla in Manila."  Both men reportedly pissed blood after the fight. 

Manny grew up with nothing.  Floyd flaunts his material excesses and ego.  That provides combustible material.  In human psychology, you do not gain an egoistic person's respect by beating him in material excesses or prestige.  They will only get envious and try to one-up you.  The way to earn an ego-driven person's respect is to give him a busted lip.  Some people cannot be reasoned with.  They only respond to force (pain).  Floyd - like the Batman and Joker dynamic - is such a personality.

   The Blitz as a plan by "Master" Freddie Roach is customized for his graduating pupil - a special lesson for the valedictorian of the class.  Manny Pacquiao has already executed the Blitz in his old days, in the late 1990s and early 2000s, as a one-armed brawler.  He closes off his career against a prolific boxing wizard - a pugilistic Merlin. 

Returning to his roots, but this time armed with two-equally deadly arms, on March 13 Roach reveals a strategy, and Manny Pacquiao discloses his awesome firepower early, early, and early.  Pressing the action . . . always pressing the action.  Forcing an indomitable will.  Taunting Floyd.  Like in a schoolyard bullying session, trying to get him to drip blood . . .

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CONTINUING COVERAGE

 
Manny Pacquiao (50 - 3 - 2, 38 KOs) vs. Floyd Mayweather, Jr. (40 - 0, 25 KOs)

Pacquiao & Mayweather:  Part 1   >>
Two pound for pound kings defining greatness in their own unique ways.  (Part 1)   >>
Pacquiao & Mayweather:  Part 2   >>
Two pound for pound kings defining greatness in their own unique ways.  (Part 2)   >>


Boxing's Climax: Pac vs Mayweather 1  >>
Boxing's climactic battle since Ali vs. Frazier. (Part 1)   >>
Pacquiao Wins 7th Title  >>
Heroic Filipino achieves unprecedented feat in boxing   >>

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Comments

  • Paul 2 years ago

    Best ARTICLE i've READ about Manny vs Floyd strategies. Marv is the Manny Pacquiao in WRITING ARTICLES. xD

    I'm gonna save this article and read this again after Manny vs Floyd Fight. ^_^

  • RfromCali 2 years ago

    Can this writer just simplify his writings...its too complicated with pictures and related link inserted everywhere. Other than that hes probably one of the more unbiased boxing writer Ive read. just my opinion

  • Gil P. Acosata 2 years ago

    First of all, we are talking here of man to man boxin fight. To equate infantry wars to single man to man combat is plainly stupid. Your lessons from history and the art of war cannot be applied on a single man to man boxing match. It is plain idiotic. the two things are too different, ok?

  • Pol Canonce Barugo, Leyte PH 1 year ago

    The application of the Art of War to combat fighting like boxing is never irrelevant. The fact that there is engagement and there is opposing protagonists makes it very much applicable. Do you think business strategies applying also the Art of War strategies stupidity?

  • wirehead 1 year ago

    moron

  • LOL G 2 years ago

    Yawn, overanalyzing sucks dude.

  • Erik 2 years ago

    A lot of good information, just too much to read right now. Is there any summary?

  • Wapak Man 2 years ago

    Great analysis! Kudos to the writer!

    Only those who are too lazy to read or too dumb to comprehend will criticize this article for being "overly analtycal" or "complicated". To LOL G and RfromCali, the problem is with you. You both probably prefer to read articles for dummies.. yes, they are written in an uncomplicated manner but for dummies like you.

  • KYFER 2 years ago

    Awesome analysis, again.
    Love the historical references.
    You got great points there, and for sure FR shares the same thoughts.
    Manny has indicated that this fight could be his last.
    A total destruction of the Floyd Mayweather Jr myth will be the perfect send-off to an ATG.
    All best, marv!
    Just keep 'em coming!

  • Greg 2 years ago

    Great effort. A high-work rate, indeed. Here's to a sustained journalistic enthusiasm. Kudos!

  • Jes 2 years ago

    very good analysis marv. can't wait to see this fight.

  • Rhomir 2 years ago

    Dude, you have such a great analysis of the fight strategy! You must have been a great military tactician in your past life. I could not help but admire your brilliance. Thumbs up, Marv!

  • BALBOA II 2 years ago

    You are a genius Marv. Be sure you email your article to Freddie and Manny. Keep up the good work SunZhu!!!

  • asdf 2 years ago

    Wow, nice article. I was only able to read halfway through since I don't have much free time right now but I'll definitely come back and read the rest later tonight.

    Good job.

  • realism 2 years ago

    Man you are a one hell of a encyclopedia.. i should have talked to you before i got married

  • chakyun 2 years ago

    You mentioned several times that Mayweather uses the first 3 rounds to study opponents. If that will be the case maybe Pacquiao needs to have 3 different gameplan. What I mean is, while Mayweather is using his time figuring his opponents style on the first 2 rounds, Pacquiao needs to change the strategy on the 3-4 rds and have another on the 5-6 rds. Switch it again and again. Or surprise Mayweather by attacking him on the first round and find a way to knock him out rightaway. Another solution is to imitate Mayweathers defence. Fight him in his own game. But you´re the expert, I will not argue with that.

  • Roger Mayweather 2 years ago

    Thanks for the tips, Mr. Dumon. I'll make sure Pacman does the reverse.

  • jim 2 years ago

    great article and analysis!

  • Arseve 2 years ago

    Manny now has a skill-set that is varied unlike the one-dimensional fighter he was many years ago. Thanks to his genius of a trainer, the patient Freddie Roach.

    Manny is a humble boxer, thus, he learns from people and accepts that he can always improve. That is one of the greatest contribution Roach had on Manny.

    There really is no one way to beat Floyd, there is a multiple number of ways. Just like the way scientists, engineers, mathematicians model their perception of reality.

    Now to boxing, some people call it "sweet science". There is a little truth to that. But its not an exact science. But there are certain facts that we must accept.

    Manny's speed and power are something Floyd has not experienced before. Nor, has Manny met someone with Floyd's smarts and slick boxing. Its a 50-50 chance at best, until someone imposes his will, who could that be? My pick? Manny Pacquiao.

  • angperegrino 2 years ago

    beautiful analysis. good background research. i'm just a little concerned because the mayweathers might read this and learn from it. hahaha

  • jay 2 years ago

    lets face it, pacquiao is a great fighter than mayweather. and floyd will be down in 3rd or 4th round and game is over that's all.

  • jackbw9 2 years ago

    The height of hubris is when you start believing that ONLY *YOU* have the answer.

  • jab zudah 2 years ago

    wow a lot of work done in this article, carry on boy!

  • zackjr 2 years ago

    Great article but should have saved it after a contract has been signed, anything can happen..... right??

  • steve london 2 years ago

    Hello writer,nice work well thought out and put together.Dont worry about comments from pigs,as pearls have no meaning to them.
    You made a few very good points,eg gayweather taking first few rounds to adjust.Many thought it was the opponent having a better round rather than gayweather adjusting.
    Nonetheless those rounds are vital but also to hurt gayweather bust him up early,let him know hes in for pain the rest of the fight,eg Castillo 1 fight,where is was whining like a bitch in the corner.There will come a time in the fight where he will have to stand and trade with Pacquiao,there he will get hurt more.
    All this said,it will be a difficult match for Pacquiao but until both parties sign to contract and the fight happens,I wont believe it.Why? because gayweather has hidden from EVERY top welterweight,Cotto,Margarito,Mosley,Williame etc,etc,so why would he suddenly agree to fight Pacquaio in 3 mths?when gayweather himself said it take 6mths to stage a top event?

  • kissjonez 2 years ago

    Look, the most important thing is Roach needs to upgrade Pacquaios gas tank cause its gonna be a long night for Pacquaio!I mean Pacquaios team can come up with greatest plan ever from plan "A" all the way to "Z" but that stamina has has keep kickin' cause Floyd is a totally whole different species! Without stamina then you lose speed and power.Since Floyd is hard to hit Pacquaio must constantly, I mean constantly throwin' punches.Either he'll beat Floyd by points or he'll knock Floyd out.Dela Hoya was close on beating Mayweather but he ran out of gas in the later rounds.

  • popoy jakol 2 years ago

    ugly floyd must be digging his own grave

  • viajante 2 years ago

    hope this goes to roach. however why revealing the possible plans? the element of surprise is taken already. isn't that what sun tzu was teaching?

  • MJC 2 years ago

    Nice read...

  • The Verb 2 years ago

    I can almost feel the action while reading this article. Attack, attack, attack vs. that long arms make all the difference.

  • turn buckle 2 years ago

    good reading merve the nerd...is that all your got to go on old tapes? lol....who are these four boxers that outfought mayweather? hello earth to marv they lost...are you a millitary historion or something because your always talking about WW2? they can't relate to that merv they never been to battle...freddie roaches mind game wont work against the mayweathers...they got the upper hand when it comes to mind games and freddie knows it...can't wait till 24/7

  • ElVivo 2 years ago

    Wow a brilliant well researched article! Nice Job!

  • Strategy #1 2 years ago

    Sugar Ray Leonard vs Duran 1:

    Before the fight, Team Duran complained loudly about Carlos Padilla Jr.'s tendency to break up quickly in-fighting. They complained to the media, boxing commission, etc....

    End Result:
    Padilla allowed holding and it became a wrestling match. Probably the lousiest ref job done by Sonny.

    Team PacMan must do the same thing about Floyd's holding tactics. Publicize it, complain loudly way in advance, etc.

  • ugok 2 years ago

    You forgot to include Floyd vs Hatton...early rounds favored Hatton when he was attacking with abandon but he paid it dearly later thru accumulation of clean shots to the head/face everytime he lunge forward.Lesson there is that Pacman should attack aggresively but at the same time not to be too careless doing so.With Manny's footwork and better upper body defense than Hatton plus the angles where he can throw punches ,Pacman should succeed in his "Blitzkrieg".The only thing is that Floyd will be expecting it and might actually be running for the whole fight.I f Manny can forced Floyd into the corner just like Oscar did or if he cam stay inside,he might be able to score a knock down.We know what Floyd brings also Manny...People think a great defense wins it.Think there wrong..great offense beats great defense 24/7.

  • Strategy # 2 2 years ago

    Team Pac must train against Floyd's 'grab & hold' tactics. AND must strategize to effectively counter it.

    Remember, Uncle Rogie JailWeather is known to yell "Tie him up and don't stick out your azz out there. Tie him up!" during Floyd's many fights.

  • Strategy # 3 2 years ago

    Punish the shoulder roll. How? Not really sure. Someone suggested to pummel li'l Floyd's shoulder.

    I noticed that Floyd Jr. tend to hold his right hand on his right cheek when he does the shoulder roll. Left side of his face is wide open but he does move his head constantly.
    Team Pac will figure this one out.

  • nestor 2 years ago

    Manny can just do what Hagler did to Hearns right immediately in the opening bell in their 1885 epic battle. In the very 1st second of that fight, Hagler made a statement that he was a real beast for Hearns to be conquered by jumping on him as bell sounded. Manny can too make such a telling statement to Gayweather in the early round and hence make the latter engage in toe to toe confrontation.

    Whatever, to Manny's mind, there's nothing really special on Gayweather's skills. It's simply an eye for an eye and power vs power and Gayweather could not run the whole night.

    I see Gayweather falling by 6th rnd. Mark that prediction!!!

  • Strategy # 4 2 years ago

    PacMan must fight his own fight and not let Mongoloid Jr. or any of the crackheads' antics get to him. Trash talking is not his style and as Bruce Lee said, you fight with 'emotional content,' not anger.

  • Jun 2 years ago

    Yeah !! But how does Floyd win against the PacMonster...
    The only way for Floyd to win is on points..by "boxing", i mean running...poor Floyd, he's not a fighter and no way can K.O.'s the Pacman..

  • JCMoney 2 years ago

    Good article but hopefully not with a bad result, Marv you may have the sharpest anlytical mind here, but Im so upset you posted this. This is like war any anlysis from your camp could be interpreted by the enemy and use it his advantage. Now if Roach thinks the way as you do, you juts given the other camp some valuable intel. So in the near future could you stop posting something like this.

  • Chicago guy 2 years ago

    Long but very nice article. I'm not finish reading it two more to go. Historical Perspective and Conclusion. Coffee break. BRB to figure how to kick Floyd jr.ass.

  • matt 2 years ago

    don't worry about it. those mayweather cant even talk, what more read.

  • Wapakman 2 years ago

    A message for Alex Ariza. Do your HOMEWORK, please do not GET surprised on absolutely ANY TESTING TEST the Mayweather team may come up with. It's not that we are confident that Manny is clean, but we just DO NOT WANT any surprises at all.

    There will be NO EXCUSE to Floyd Jr when he finally KISSES THE CANVAS. Exposed!...If he asks for a re-match it should be 70-30% in favor of Manny.

  • turn buckle 2 years ago

    ha ha punch his shoulder ahh thats gotta be the funniest $h!t i've ever heard.....don't forget suckas oscar blouted floyd and made him wear pillows so that tape counts for nothing....weve been studying the style of rustico terrecampo

  • KILAW 2 years ago

    very true.Timing,endurance,power to hurt floyd,accuracyetc...manny change styles too to disrupt strategies.If he can hurt floyd and get the first 4 rounds I think it's over coz his body and mind is already destroyed and nothing more to offer.YES manny's workrate will win it for him.

  • Astro_boi 2 years ago

    MANNY HIMSELF IS A GREAT TACTICIAN, MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT! THEY THOUGHT THIS KING THROWS IN HAIL MARY PUNCHES ALL THE TIME WITHOUT ANY REGARD OF ACCURACY! THE REASON BEHIND THIS IS THAT BOXERS OFTEN LOOK STRAIGHTLY AT THEIR OPPONENTS EYES TO GIVE THEM WARNING ON WHICH FIST WILL STRIKE NEXT, IF YOU NOTICE SOME SLO-MO, MANNY IS'NT LOOKING AT THE PART OF HIS TARGET!

  • arcadzz 2 years ago

    so far this is the best article iv read for the incoming pacquiao-mayweather fight. great research, great analysis... what an article! keep up the good work marv...

    ...but again my friends whenever the overhauled pacquiao fights, his enemies can't figure him out thus forgetting all their plans and strategies employed against him and then boom! they get annihilated by the pacman... and the only strategy of pacquiao to defeat mayweather? just BE HIMSELF!!! then it's a sure win already... pacquiao by 8th or 9th round stoppage.

  • turn buckle 2 years ago

    we got the speed we got the staminer we got the smarts we got the reach we got the style we got the footwork we got the D hell we just about got it all......the full pacage.....all pacmans got over floyd is a slight power advantage.....don't get mad.....it is what it is.....may i also remind you that floyds been sparring with not just 1 but multiple middle weights so if you think floyds going to be easy to knock out your wrong.....i smell an easy victory coming folks lol

  • The Overtaker 2 years ago

    Nice 1, sir.
    But why's every1 trying 2 make strategies on how 2 beat Floyd? It's as if Mayweather's a true warrior. Hogwash!
    Since we're @ it...

    How about Manny using the strategy used by the Israelis in the Six-Day war of 1967? But Floyd can also use it since he'll be surrounded by Manny's power punches (just like Israel being surrounded by hostile nations then) he can launch a pre-emptive strike 2 dazzle Manny. What if Floyd uses your so called "Blitz" on Manny? (Patton: "I read your book, Rommel!")

    Floyd could also use the Rizal Alih move, wherein he can still escape even if surrounded by Pacquiao's bombardment.

    Manny must develop a Trojan Horse-like power punch tht could penetrate Floyd's defensive walls. Or uppercuts in the mold of US missiles used in Kuwait w/surgical precision 2 hit Floyd's chin and jaws.

    In the end, Pac must use Bush's plan to invade Iraq to look for weapons of mass destruction... and like Iraq, Mayweather has none.

  • Jun Nicolas 2 years ago

    On March 13, 2010, Manny will rain a lot of bombs on Gayweather, the power of which the loudmouth Gayweather has never before experience. Mark my word: MANNY PACQUIAO WILL BE AT HIS MOST EXPLOSIVE THAT HE WILL BADLY BEAT AND BATTER THIS LOUDMOUTH. I would suggest that an ambulance be on standby coz I fear that this Gayweather will suffer the most humliating and devastating defeat that he might go into coma once Manny lands the shot that would the "final nail to Gayweather's coffin." If Gayweather fails to survive, I offer this epitaph to Gayweather:
    HERE LIES THE LOUDESTMOUTH OF ALL, SILENCED FOREVER.

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